At 11:15 PM 04/10/2000, Coleen Pettit wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* actually I need directions for subbing and unsubbing, thanks, Coleen :) **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Hi Coleen. To subscribe to this Mailing List, do the following: 1) Send to: [email protected] 2) Subject: subscribe 3) You can also put "subscribe" in the body text if you want; it doesn't hurt. To unsubscribe, just do the same as above, but replace "subscribe" with "unsubscribe". Don't forget, to send a post, the address is: [email protected] (Notice that to send mail, the "-request" part is omitted.) Regards, SgtGeorge George W. Durman Knoxville, TN EUDORA-MAIL Listowner Archives of previous EUDORA-MAIL posts are located at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/EUDORA-MAIL-L/ (Copy and paste the above URL exactly as above. The address is "case-sensitive". If you have never used the Archives before, you will have to establish a UserName and Password. You will need only one User- Name and Password for all of Rootsweb, regardless of which Archives you are searching.)

>Now I understand. I use DOS and the extensions, e.g., .ini, are always >shown. If you use Windows Explorer, and have Windows configured to NOT >show the extensions, then all you would see would be EUDORA, not >EUDORA.INI. Here's how to change it so that the extensions will be shown. > >With Explorer open, click on VIEW, then FOLDER OPTIONS. There are three >tabs at the top, with the middle one being VIEW. Click it. Under the >first section, FILES & FOLDERS, look for "Hide File Extensions for Known >File Types". Make sure that is UN-CHECKED. From now on, you will see the >extensions, e.g., .INI. > >SgtGeorge Thanks, George, that did the trick!!

At 07:42 AM 4/10/00 -0500, you wrote: >>Peggy, EUDORA.INI is in your Eudora directory! You must look in the >>Eudora root directory, probably C:\EUDORA\ >>e directory) Well, I went to looking at all the other files that look >>like "readme" files, and found it. It was just labeled Eudora until I >>clicked on it then it was stated as Eudora.ini. > >Anyhow, backed it up, so crisis will be averted should it ever come to that!! several snips... Two hopefully good helps. Number one. Go to the Start icon, and left click it. on the drop down list (menu) pick Find on the next drop down, pick Files or Folders. in the new window, labeled Find: All files, Go to the spot labeled Named: and type in eudora.ini go to the Find Now button, and left click the button. The find function will find any and all copies of the file, eudora.ini on your computer. You can use this to edit the file, copy the file or other items. Number two. Open the explorer window, either by right clicking My Computer, and pick Explore or any other method you know to get the window open. Go to the menu line, and left click View. On the drop down, left click Folder Options. On new window, select the View tab. On this view, under hidden files, click on show all files. Go down to Hide file extensions for known file types, and un-click it. Click OK button. the *.ext should show for *.ini files as well as others. Now the bad part, may not always work, if you have a version of windows that some Computer Manufacture has done things on. Jack

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At 08:42 AM 04/10/2000, TCF wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* Peggy, EUDORA.INI is in your Eudora directory! You must look in the Eudora root directory, probably C:\EUDORA\ SgtGeorge ============================== Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. http://pml.rootsweb.com/ Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. Hi, George, I was looking in the root file yesterday, and that's how I saw all of the program files, such as Eudora.log, .tip, .idx and all. What I didn't see was the Eudora.ini file. (I thought that it would specifically state that in the directory) Well, I went to looking at all the other files that look like "readme" files, and found it. It was just labeled Eudora until I clicked on it then it was stated as Eudora.ini. Anyhow, backed it up, so crisis will be averted should it ever come to that!! **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Now I understand. I use DOS and the extensions, e.g., .ini, are always shown. If you use Windows Explorer, and have Windows configured to NOT show the extensions, then all you would see would be EUDORA, not EUDORA.INI. Here's how to change it so that the extensions will be shown. With Explorer open, click on VIEW, then FOLDER OPTIONS. There are three tabs at the top, with the middle one being VIEW. Click it. Under the first section, FILES & FOLDERS, look for "Hide File Extensions for Known File Types". Make sure that is UN-CHECKED. From now on, you will see the extensions, e.g., .INI. SgtGeorge

Hi George, At Mon, 10 Apr 2000 00:02:32 -0400, you wrote ------------------------- > I have not decided yet what to do about it. I'm getting ready to go to he > OptOut website and ask the producer of the software about this problem, and a > couple of other things. > You are in for a big issue. ;-) I heard, the guy who wrote OptOut (Steve Gibson) is a respected authority in his area, not just a freak programmer. You and probably most users here are concerned only about their own system, but the issue is much more and leads quickly to privacy issues in general and corresponding legislation. Ad sponsored SW - like Eudora - is a good idea, but where are the limits in regards to privacy? Imagine this Aureate (or similar SW) finds out, that you have subscribed to some Genealogy lists and then keeps on sending eMail ads about genealogy books. The Internet Societal Taskforce (www.istf.org) has a WG that is working on such issues. After I've heard about that OptOut from you (thanks for it!), I informed the ISTF list about it and there was quite vivid response! Pls. do keep us informed about your talks with Steve Gibson! Cheers, Stefan Probst

>Peggy, EUDORA.INI is in your Eudora directory! You must look in the >Eudora root directory, probably C:\EUDORA\ > >SgtGeorge > > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. Hi, George, I was looking in the root file yesterday, and that's how I saw all of the program files, such as Eudora.log, .tip, .idx and all. What I didn't see was the Eudora.ini file. (I thought that it would specifically state that in the directory) Well, I went to looking at all the other files that look like "readme" files, and found it. It was just labeled Eudora until I clicked on it then it was stated as Eudora.ini. Anyhow, backed it up, so crisis will be averted should it ever come to that!!

In case any of you are using WinZip, there is a new Beta release available at: http://www.winzip.com/betawz.htm If you have a registered copy of WinZip, installing this Beta over the top of your old WinZip will keep it registered. This latest Build should be stable, since I've been using the Betas since the beginning and have had absolutely no problems. If you are a registered user, when the final release is made available, installing it over your existing version will keep it registered. Regards, SgtGeorge George W. Durman Knoxville, TN EUDORA-MAIL Listowner Archives of previous EUDORA-MAIL posts are located at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/EUDORA-MAIL-L/ (Copy and paste the above URL exactly as above. The address is "case-sensitive". If you have never used the Archives before, you will have to establish a UserName and Password. You will need only one User- Name and Password for all of Rootsweb, regardless of which Archives you are searching.)

Folks, I may have to do some back pedaling on the subject. Some users who installed OptOut have programs or utilities that no longer work properly. I've run into this now myself. Specifically, when I download email that contains HTML advertisements, the graphics files will no longer download in Eudora!!!!! I began to suspect problems when I installed a new Beta for GetRight last night. Here's the message I received during the installation: *************** Removing the Advertising Files used by GetRight: GetRight shows advertising banners to people who have not yet paid for GetRight. After buying, you do not need to see the advertisements if you do not want to, so the advertising system files may be removed from your computer. Warning: These advertising files are shared with a large number of other programs. (List of programs - see other email for the list.) While GetRight will work fine with these files removed, some other programs using this advertising system may give errors or not work if these files are removed. If you remove these advertising files and other programs do not work, you will need to re-install that other program to restore the advertising files that it requires. To remove all the Aureate/Radiate advertising files, just download and run this program (there was a clickable URL here). *************** Now, it appears that Eudora was one of the programs that also installed Aureate files, or at least needed some of the files in order to download the ad graphics that came in the HTML emails. I have not decided yet what to do about it. I'm getting ready to go to he OptOut website and ask the producer of the software about this problem, and a couple of other things. I need to know the following: 1) If I have ZoneAlarm installed, will that prevent data from being sent from my system back to Aureate? I suspect it won't, since ZoneAlarm blocks "pulls" from the system, where Aureate sends "pushes". 2) Is there any way to block Aureate from sending "pushes" from certain programs, while leaving others free to do so? 3) In light of the statement by Steve Gibson, I need to go to his web site and chat with him about Aureate. Then, I need to ask him, IF he has determined that his first assessment was truly in error, if there is any way to reinstall Aureate on my system, short of reinstalling every danged program that uses Aureate. I will keep you informed about what I learn. It's really no big thing, since the ONLY HTML graphics I really care about come with a daily notification of new animated GIF files. I always save them for possible future use. I can really live without them, but just wonder if any more glitches will show up as I use programs I haven't opened since removing Aureate from my system. Later, SgtGeorge Listowner

Last night, I found what is supposed to be a complete list of the programs that install Aureate on your system when you install them. I have no way of knowing how inclusive the list is. I do know that I spotted some duplicates, but am not about to take the time to check the entire list to remove them. Sorry for the long list, but here they are: GetRight Go!Zilla CuteFTP 3.0 NetAnts Net Vampire Free Solitaire JetCar BuddyPhone 2 CuteFTP 3.0 beta NewsShark Abe's MP3 Finder Dwyco Video Conferencing Delphi Tester MP3 Fiend WebCopier Aureate Group Mail Binary Boy Download Wonder ASP1-A3 NetCaptor 5.0 NetTime Thingy TIFNY ComTry Music Downloader WebStripper Sweep Netbus Pro 2.10 LOL Chat PicPluck Access Diver III NetNak Midnight Oil Solitaire File Mag-Net Alive and Kicking BinaryVortex CuteFTP/Tripod InnovaClub LapLink FTP MP3 Grouppie Iban Technologies IP Tools 3.1 NewsBin Planet.MP3Find 3D-FTP EasySeeker Crystal FTP MP3 Album Finder FTPEditor Free Spades Capture Express 2000 DigiCams - The WebCam Viewer 3rd block Address Rover 98 AutoFTP PRO LOL Chat RingSurf Abe's Picture Finder Web SurfACE SonicMail SBWcc Dialer 2000 Free Submitter Pro My Genie SE StockBrowser Ping Thingy MP3 Mag-Net FourTimes Beatle Grafula Folder Guard Jr. TWinExplorer Standard Advanced Call Center xBlock VOG Backgammon Table My Genie Patriots More Space 99 VOG Backgammon Main Active 'Net SmartSum calculator FreeZip! Net-A-Car Feature Car Screensaver My GetRight Planet.Billboard Infinite Patience DNScape CutePage ReGet 1.6 SimpleSubmit v1.0 Acorn Email Octopus Internetrix AcqURL Pictures In News ProtectX 3 NetSuck 3.10.5 SunEdit 2K Advanced Maillist Verify QuoteWatch Cheat Machine Wordwright MX Inspector BIG AD VOG Shell Resume Detective DownLoader v.1.1 CSE HTML Validator Lite AdWizard SBJV WebCamVCR The Mapper Space Central Screen Saver ProxyChecker Meracl ImageMap Generator PMS Sound Agent QuadSucker/Web Scout's Game JOC Web Spider Free Picture Harvester Check4New MirNik Internet Finder WinEdit 2000 hesci Private Label ActionOutline Light 1.6 SuperIDE Mp3 Stream Recorder Add/Remove Plus! Zip Express 2000 DigiBand NewsWatch QWallet Abe's Image Viewer WebSaver Auction Explorer EZ-Forms FREE Total Finger FileSplit Abe's SMB Client Subscriber SaberQuest Page Burner Splash! Siterave Abe's FTP Client Photocopier GovernMail AutoWeb DL-Mail Pro 2000 iFind Graphics Netman Downloader Shizzam Visual Cyberadio DateTime imageN CuteMX AxelCD VeriMP3 Charity Banner Web-N-Force Net Scan 2000 HangWeb Mail Them TI-FindMail JOC Web Finder Huey v1.8 Color Picker Danzig Pref Engine Personal Search Agent NewsWire SweepsWinner TypeWriter 1.0 NotePads+ 123Search Aureate SpamKiller Notificator 1.0b FreeSite Word+ Virtual Access Gunther's PasswordSentry HTTP Proxy-Spy Idyle GimmIP Download Minder 1.5 VOG Chess Main Zion Doorbell 1.18 SK-111 InstallZIP EmmaSoft ChatCat EnvoyMail W3Filer ScreenFIRE - FileKing JOC Email Checker MouseAssist VOG Chess Table ChanStat HTML Translator Win A Lotto Website Manager Text Transmogrifier Net CB MultiSender Add URL QuikLink Explorer Gold Edition LineSoft Download NfoNak Classic Peg Solitaire InterWebWord Companion Cascoly Screensaver DirectUpdate Admiral VirusScanner Visual Surfer Digital Postman NeuroStock SimpleFind RoboCam 1.10 Vagabond's Realm www.devgames.com VOG Shell Web Page Authoring Software Clabra clipboard viewer EmmaSoft dBrow VOG Reversi Main FreeWebMail Simple Submit CamGrab QuikLink Autobot SmartBoard 200 FREE Edition CDDB-Reader Static FTP InfoBlast Blue Engine MP3 Renamer TheNet UK Phone Codes Quadzle Puzzles WorldChat Client ScreenFIRE VOG Reversi Table Worm Music Genie WEB2SMS Idyle GimmIP FreeImageEditor MP3INFO-Editor NeatFTP FreeNotePad Your ESP Test WhoIs Thingy WebType Total Whois NetBoard CDMaster32 ChinMail Vertigo QSearch Real Estate Web Site Creator Network Assistant Internet Tree VOG Shell History Trade Site Creator StartDrive Go!Zilla WebAttack FreeWebBrowser EmmaSoft Soundz Web Coupon Meracl FontMap Smart 'n Sticky Rosemary's Weird Web World Web Registrant PRO jIRC Web Resume Recipe Review KVT Diplom Delphi Component Test alphaScape QuickPaste QuikLink Explorer PingMaster JFK Research BookSmith : Original ScreenFlavors Sea Battle People Seek 98 EmmaSoft KeepLan 3d Anarchy FreeIRC SgtGeorge George W. Durman Knoxville, TN VIRUS-DISCUSSION List Administrator

At 09:52 AM 04/09/2000, TCF wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* Hi to all, I am new to the list, and I would like to back up my INI file, but, I can't seem to locate it. ( you can all collectively groan now! ~grin~) I have looked in the Eudora files, and I have lots of mbx, toc, & dat files, but not an ini file.... what am I missing here, folks? Would a kind soul point me in the right direction? Many thanks, Peggy **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Peggy, EUDORA.INI is in your Eudora directory! You must look in the Eudora root directory, probably C:\EUDORA\ SgtGeorge

Hi to all, I am new to the list, and I would like to back up my INI file, but, I can't seem to locate it. ( you can all collectively groan now! ~grin~) I have looked in the Eudora files, and I have lots of mbx, toc, & dat files, but not an ini file.... what am I missing here, folks? Would a kind soul point me in the right direction? Many thanks, Peggy

OK guys and gals! Remember what has been said about BACKING UP your important/critical files? Sandy's email just confirmed how important it is to do backups. BACKUP, BACKUP, BACKUP!!!!! And, if any of you missed it, I've often advocated using a program/utility that does automatic backups EVERY day/night! For some reason, Windows likes to corrupt .ini files from time to time, and you never know when it will happen. I've had to restore the EUDORA.INI file a few times, and am just thankful that I had backup copies available to use. WINDOWS IS NOT PERFECT!!!!! Windows WILL corrupt .ini files from time to time!!!!! If you don't backup such files, you will regret it!!!!!! And, it seems that Windows has a penchant for screwing with .ini files of Email browsers that are NOT Microsoft products. 'Nuff said. Not saying that MS doesn't protect our "other" email browser files like it does MS products, but..... In case any of you missed it, I have often "plugged" a FREE utility called "TaskZip", which you can configure to backup ANY files on your system, at a specific time, at specific intervals. My TaskZip backs up my Eudora critical files EVERY night!!!!! And that includes EUDORA.INI. If I need to, I can go back days, weeks, or months, and dig out past EUDORA.INI files from the .zip files made by TaskZip. SgtGeorge At 01:04 AM 04/08/2000, Sandy wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* Guess what! Everything is back!!! Restoring the ini file did it! And you know what else? Remember a while back I mentioned losing my alternate personalities, and not being able to make new ones? Well, the original personalities are back, and are functional again. Now I just have to go through all my settings to be sure they're the way I want them. Thanks *so* much for the suggestion! Sandy At 12:58 AM 4/8/2000 -0400, you wrote: The second one was checked - the first not. My backup is from the end of January. Not that recent, but not too terribly old, either. Additional information.... It seems like the download isn't completing. I get the mail, it's filtered to the proper mailboxes, but then I don't get the "incoming mail" and the letter in the tray. Then, if I go to take Eudora down, it tells me that there are still tasks running. I also have the program set to automatically download every 10 minutes. After an hour, there are 7 tasks running - like the first didn't finish to allow the next to start. Does this make sense? Anyway, I'll take Eudora down again (there are 2 tasks running - probably the initial download that didn't complete, and the one message I tried to send), and copy over the ini file from my backup. I'll let you know what happens as soon as I'm back up and running. Thanks, Sandy At 11:26 PM 4/7/2000 -0400, you wrote: Sandy, first go to TOOLS/OPTIONS and click on "Background Tasks". Make sure the following are checked: Bring error window to front Bring task status window to front However, from your post, I don't think this is going to help. It sounds like something has gone haywire on your system. Hate to say it, but that's what it sounds like. And, it's probably nothing you did to cause it. It just happens from time to time. That's Windows. Have you backed up critical files on your system lately? If so, you can restore the Eudora.ini file from the backup and see if this solves the Eudora problem. If you didn't backup up Eudora.ini, I don't know what you can do, short of a complete reconfiguration of Eudora from the Tools/Options menu. Check out the "Background Tasks" first, then let us know if that helps. We'll go from there. SgtGeorge **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT**************

Guess what! Everything is back!!! Restoring the ini file did it! And you knwo what else? Remember a while back I mentioned losing my alternate personalities, and not being able to make new ones? Well, the original personalities are back, and are functional again. Now I just have to go through all my settings to be sure they're the way I want them. Thanks *so* much for the suggestion! Sandy At 12:58 AM 4/8/2000 -0400, you wrote: >The second one was checked - the first not. My backup is from the end of >January. Not that recent, but not too terribly old, either. > >Additional information.... It seems like the download isn't >completing. I get the mail, it's filtered to the proper mailboxes, but >then I don't get the "incoming mail" and the letter in the tray. Then, if >I go to take Eudora down, it tells me that there are still tasks >running. I also have the program set to automatically download every 10 >minutes. After an hour, there are 7 tasks running - like the first didn't >finish to allow the next to start. Does this make sense? > >Anyway, I'll take Eudora down again (there are 2 tasks running - probably >the initial download that didn't complete, and the one message I tried to >send), and copy over the ini file from my backup. I'll let you know what >happens as soon as I'm back up and running. > >Thanks, >Sandy > >At 11:26 PM 4/7/2000 -0400, you wrote: > >>Sandy, first go to TOOLS/OPTIONS and click on "Background Tasks". Make >>sure the following are checked: >> >>Bring error window to front >>Bring task status window to front >> >>However, from your post, I don't think this is going to help. It sounds >>like something has gone haywire on your system. Hate to say it, but >>that's what it sounds like. And, it's probably nothing you did to cause >>it. It just happens from time to time. That's Windows. >> >>Have you backed up critical files on your system lately? If so, you can >>restore the Eudora.ini file from the backup and see if this solves the >>Eudora problem. If you didn't backup up Eudora.ini, I don't know what >>you can do, short of a complete reconfiguration of Eudora from the >>Tools/Options menu. >> >>Check out the "Background Tasks" first, then let us know if that >>helps. We'll go from there. >> >>SgtGeorge >> >> >>============================== >>Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >>RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >>http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > > >============================== >The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

The second one was checked - the first not. My backup is from the end of January. Not that recent, but not too terribly old, either. Additional information.... It seems like the download isn't completing. I get the mail, it's filtered to the proper mailboxes, but then I don't get the "incoming mail" and the letter in the tray. Then, if I go to take Eudora down, it tells me that there are still tasks running. I also have the program set to automatically download every 10 minutes. After an hour, there are 7 tasks running - like the first didn't finish to allow the next to start. Does this make sense? Anyway, I'll take Eudora down again (there are 2 tasks running - probably the initial download that didn't complete, and the one message I tried to send), and copy over the ini file from my backup. I'll let you know what happens as soon as I'm back up and running. Thanks, Sandy At 11:26 PM 4/7/2000 -0400, you wrote: >Sandy, first go to TOOLS/OPTIONS and click on "Background Tasks". Make >sure the following are checked: > >Bring error window to front >Bring task status window to front > >However, from your post, I don't think this is going to help. It sounds >like something has gone haywire on your system. Hate to say it, but >that's what it sounds like. And, it's probably nothing you did to cause >it. It just happens from time to time. That's Windows. > >Have you backed up critical files on your system lately? If so, you can >restore the Eudora.ini file from the backup and see if this solves the >Eudora problem. If you didn't backup up Eudora.ini, I don't know what you >can do, short of a complete reconfiguration of Eudora from the >Tools/Options menu. > >Check out the "Background Tasks" first, then let us know if that >helps. We'll go from there. > >SgtGeorge > > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Mari, yes you can grumble here. (GRIN) When I saw your first post and saw the misspelling in the part you extracted, I thought something wasn't right at your server. The only help I can offer is to call them via phone and bend their ears severely. Sometimes that helps, sometimes it doesn't, due to most personal at servers never admitting that anything is wrong. Let us know if you get it fixed. George

At 02:38 PM 04/07/2000, Sandy wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* Yesterday, I lost the task status on my Eudora 4.2.2. When I click on the "check mail" button, it checks mail, but I don't have the spinning b/w circle. I no longer have the blue bar showing me the status of the download. When I click on "Tools" "Task Status" or "Task Errors", nothing happens. Up until then, they worked fine, and I made no changes to the settings in my software. I've also lost the letter in the system tray, and the announcement of incoming mail. Help! I don't know how I lost these, or how to get them back. Thanks, Sandy W [email protected] **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Sandy, first go to TOOLS/OPTIONS and click on "Background Tasks". Make sure the following are checked: Bring error window to front Bring task status window to front However, from your post, I don't think this is going to help. It sounds like something has gone haywire on your system. Hate to say it, but that's what it sounds like. And, it's probably nothing you did to cause it. It just happens from time to time. That's Windows. Have you backed up critical files on your system lately? If so, you can restore the Eudora.ini file from the backup and see if this solves the Eudora problem. If you didn't backup up Eudora.ini, I don't know what you can do, short of a complete reconfiguration of Eudora from the Tools/Options menu. Check out the "Background Tasks" first, then let us know if that helps. We'll go from there. SgtGeorge

Did call. Of course the tech was out to lunch. Left a message and explained the problem. I guess he must not be working late....I still haven't heard back! :( If things are still this slow Monday, I'll more than bend their ear! Mari At 11:28 PM 4/7/00 -0400, George W. Durman wrote: >Mari, yes you can grumble here. (GRIN) When I saw your first post and >saw the misspelling in the part you extracted, I thought something wasn't >right at your server. The only help I can offer is to call them via phone >and bend their ears severely. Sometimes that helps, sometimes it doesn't, >due to most personal at servers never admitting that anything is >wrong. Let us know if you get it fixed. > >George

At 08:20 PM 4/7/00 -0500, Lori Finley wrote: >Mari, >I'm not sure if this will help but sometimes my mail will not go if I have >the < and > on the ends of my addresses. This also happens vice versa if >I don't have them there. So I would try and take them out and send the >message and see if it works. Hope that this helps some. Lori Thanks. Problem is I normally always have them removed. I think it's a server problem. Still not getting good download times! :( Mari

There has been an error transferring yhour mail. I said: MAIL FROM: <[email protected]> and then the SMTP server (smtp.netins.net) said: 451 <[email protected]>.....sender domain must resolve What the blazes is this!? :((( Mari Mari, I'm not sure if this will help but sometimes my mail will not go if I have the < and > on the ends of my addresses. This also happens vice versa if I don't have them there. So I would try and take them out and send the message and see if it works. Hope that this helps some. Lori B*O*O*M*E*R --- R*A*P*E*A*N --- A*N*D*E*R*S*O*N --- W*I*N*E*G*A*R --- F*R*I*T*Z --- C*R*O*W*L*E*Y --- W*E*A*T*H*E*R*H*E*A*D --- R*I*T*C*H*I*E --- D*I*L*L*S*A*V*E*R --- C*L*E*A*V*E*L*A*N*D --- F*O*U*L*K*E*S --- M*O*R*G*A*N --- W*I*N*N --- L*E*N*T*Z --- M*E*L*D*O*R*F --- L*A*A*B*S --- C*A*M*P*B*E*L*L