Keep them eyes peeled! (Yet another reason to find a "real" email program; as long as these dastardly virus and trojan writers continue to target Outlook and Outlook Express, you can give yourself more protection by switching to a "stand-alone" email program.) ************************* New, Nastier 'Love Bug' Virus Threatens Computers By Dan Lalor Reuters LONDON (May 19) - Software security firms warned computer users on Friday to guard against a new, more virulent strain of the "Love Bug" virus that swept the world earlier this month. Experts said several thousand computers were already infected by new e-mail virus, dubbed "Herbie: Love Bug II." It causes more severe damage than the original because it wipes files clean and tries to hide by changing its appearance. But there are hopes it may not spread as widely because companies have updated security since the first Love Bug. "Unfortunately, with destructive payloads inside this version, the stakes and costs are much higher than before," said Simon Perry, vice president of security solutions at U.S.-based Computer Associates. Perry said the virus renamed all files on a computer's local hard drive and associated network drives with a VBS (visual basic script) extension and set the file size to zero -- effectively making the computer system and network inoperable. Alan Stevens, head of digital services at Britain's Consumers Association, said the VBS extension was key to recognizing and destroying the virus. "You would not normally expect someone to send you an e-mail with a VBS extension. They are unusual, so they should be a dead giveaway to someone who knows what they are doing." NOT WIDESPREAD YET, BUT CAN MOVE FAST The Herbie virus, which targets users of Microsoft's Outlook program, arrives with "FW:" in the subject line. This is not that unusual in itself, signifying that the message has been forwarded from elsewhere. The VBS extension is contained in the body of the e-mail. Once opened, the virus will send itself to everyone in the recipient's Outlook address book, just as the Love Bug virus did, but the attached file name may change each time a new e-mail is sent. The Love Bug virus mainly carried the message: "I love you." Eric Chien, chief research manager for U.S. computer security firm Symantec Corp, said the new bug was "more nasty" than Love Bug because "it is highly polymorphic...it changes the way it looks every time." He rated its current spread as "medium" but gave it a "high" rating for its potential to replicate further. While some Symantec (Norton) clients in Europe and Israel had been affected, the main impact was on North American clients, Chien said, possibly because users were only just getting to their screens at the start of the European day. Raimund Genes, managing director of Trend Micro, a German messaging and Internet access provider, told Reuters from Berlin that while he had received no reports of the virus there, its impact would vary among computers because it was mutating. "Some computers will still work but send out the virus," he said, while others will become inoperable. BEST ADVICE: BEWARE VBS Computer users were advised to filter for e-mails with the word "FW" along with an attachment with a .VBS extension. Then, any e-mail attachments with a VBS extension should be treated with caution, Stevens at the Consumers Association said. "The normal rules apply. Make sure all files are backed up and be cautious with the unusual." Chien at Symantec said his company was having to write new code to send to clients, whereas the solution to Love Bug had been more of a ready-made "off-the-peg" job. The original "Love Bug" crippled computers worldwide, including at the U.S. Pentagon, and is estimated to have cost $7 billion in damage. A Philippine computer school dropout is under investigation for spreading the cyber-worm. (The original Herbie was a Volkswagen Beetle car in a series of "Love Bug" movies in the 1970s.) ************************* SgtGeorge SgtGeorge George W. Durman Knoxville, TN VIRUS-DISCUSSION List Administrator EUDORA-MAIL List Administrator

At 03:01 AM 05/19/2000, Carol Sue wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* Sgt. George, just a lurker here who's been trying to learn. Wanted to thank you for recommending Eudora. I installed it today and much prefer it to the Outlook Express I was using. Which by the way I was using when the kak worm came though on this list the other day. I tried Netscape also, which I liked less than Outlook. But think I am going to be very happy with Eudora. I am going to recommend it to my relatives. Thanks again. Carol Sue **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Hi Carol Sue. Thanks for trying Eudora. Not that I have any interest in it, other than being a long-time user, and thinking that users, who use the "default" Microsoft products because they were installed on their systems, should have other choices. There are several very good email programs, all of which are far superior to Outlook and Outlook Express; besides Eudora, there is Pegasus and Agent, just to name three. I manage 20 Mailing Lists at Rootsweb, plus subscribe to 2 or 3 dozen more (I've lost the exact count). Not all Listowners use Eudora, of course, but many, many do, and more are switching every day. When managing hundreds and hundreds of daily emails on our Mailing Lists, we need a program that offers the greatest versatility, is the easiest to use, offers a multitude of utilities to make List management easier, etc. Yes, MS Outlook and Outlook Express offers most of the features that Eudora does, but not to the depth and degree. When one works daily with dozens of Lists, one needs to be able to have multiple mailboxes and sub-mailboxes; one needs to have instantly available multiple "Signatures", multiple "Personalities", and multiple "Stationery" (form-letters or form-emails). Be sure to subscribe to the EUDORA-MAIL List (which I also manage) to keep up with the latest news. Eudora will handle multiple email accounts, from different servers, with ease. The ONLY fault I (and other users) have found is that it tends to be "resource-hungry" if one doesn't keep the number of emails in various mailboxes down to a low level. By this, I mean that if you keep hundreds of emails in your IN mailbox, every time you start Eudora, loading all those emails and making them instantly available, eats up Windows Resources. Any time you open a Mailbox and it contains hundreds of emails, that eats up more Resources. QualComm, the company that produces Eudora, has been working on this problem for some time, but, to date, hasn't been able to reduce the amount of Resources required to run Eudora. Of course, the current version, 4.3, is a heck of a lot better than past versions. There is a tradeoff when using different email programs. Do you want instant access to emails, or do you want to wait for the program to access the emails at the server? Instant access means that the emails must be on your system, and loaded when Eudora starts; being willing to wait means that the emails are NOT fully loaded when you start the program, and you must wait for the program to access them at the server (such as Agent does). Most of us prefer instant access, and only run into problems with System Resources when we also have many other things being loaded when Windows starts. The secret is to load as few things as possible when starting Windows. Gotta go. Don't forget I'm always available for discussion of Viruses or email programs, SgtGeorge

At 02:09 AM 05/19/2000, Bill Murray wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* Dear Sgt. George, (snip) However after reading your announcements in digest #74 and your reply in digest #78 I think maybe I understand the difference: Cleaner will search the hard drive and notify you of any type of trojan it finds. It is supposed to be very good at finding them whereas Norton and McAfee may miss a lot of them. There is no mention of "quarantine" In addition to its precious well known abilities Zone Alarm now detects a particular type of trojan (.VBS type) and quarantines it. It is not clear whether this occurs during download or after it has taken place. Am I starting to get the idea here or am I way off and still confused? Incidentally as I typed the last line my wife called me out to hear the last part of a TVannouncement of a new VBS virus and the warning " do not open any attachment with a .VBS ending!" Bill Murray **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** 1) Zone Alarm detects the .VBS type of Trojan as it is coming into your system. I don't know what alert it gives if it finds one. The documentation at the web site wasn't clear on this subject. 2) You are understanding fine. 3) I'm getting ready to post a notice about the newly discovered mutation of the ILoveYou Trojan, called "Herbie: LoveBug II" by some. I'll put the notice in a separate email. SgtGeorge

Thanks so much George. I truly appreciate all you do and all your caring. I'm just back after a near fatal attack of virus'. Had to be in the shop for 4 days.. but, all reformatted and clean now.. geesh... Opinions please.. what is the VERY best virus scanner out... ginger >Ginger, am sending the file to your private email address. Look for the >message. It will contain the file "Edit-X-Headers.zip". The file has >been checked and is virus-free! > >George > > >============================== >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

I have just attempted to send mail via a new ISP. What does <Dominant>, 1 message left to send., RCPT TO: <e-mail address> mean? I have never seen outgoing messages stick. In the lefthand margin, the queueing sign changed to a "torn" letter icon David Lewin

Your help is invaluable - as always. Thank you. I must revert to all this at a later stage - am off for a little while DL.

At 22:47 18/05/00 -0400, you wrote: >At 03:57 PM 05/18/2000, David Lewin wrote: >*************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* >At 21:41 17/05/00 -0400, you wrote: >I normally choose all the email in a Mailbox that concerns the same >subject, say "KAK Worm", and save ALL them in a single .txt file, giving >it an identifying name and date so I can open it later and find something >I need to find. I would save the email from this List concerning KAK to a >file "KAK Worm-051700.txt". It tells me the subject and the date. > >SgtGeorge > >There is DANGER in this - Save-as of your e-mail is saved WITHOUT the >headers - you no longer have the From: Date: To: > >David Lewin >**************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** > >Nope!!!!! Not in Eudora. If you click "Save As", please notice that down >at the bottom of the resulting window, there is a place to check for >"Include Headers". > >If you don't put a check mark in this option, YES, you WILL save the email >body-text only, without ANY headers. It's just a matter of paying >attention and making sure you save the proper way. > >Regards, >SgtGeorge I stand corrected - and thank you. love the "guess" paragraphs - How human!! I never knew computers have the capacity to guess David

At 12:57 AM 05/19/2000, Helen Gant Donald wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* Sgt George, Perhaps you have posted a URL for the free copy of Zone Alarm. If so, I did not understand the significance before your excellent posting. Would you please send me the URL for the free Zone Alarm? Helen Gant Donald **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Hi Helen. Yes, I posted it a while ago, and, many, like you, didn't know what a great program it is. For those of you who STILL don't know, ZoneAlarm is a completely FREE Personal Firewall!!!!! It has received a "5-Cow" rating from TUCOWS, and has received the highest praise at ZDNet, PCMagazine, etc. Basically, for those of you who are new to these Lists, a "Firewall" prevents others from "backing in" to your system when your modem is connected. It will not allow another server to access anything on your system, unless you authorize it. It will not allow another server to access your BIOS! In short, it erects a barrier between you and all those out there who would log on to your system to either gather data, or to secretly add things to your system. Just as a matter of information, I paid the fee for registering McAfee's "Personal Firewall" and used it for less than a day. I soon realized I had wasted $29.95. I just chalked it up as a bad choice, and went back to ZoneAlarm. The URL where you can download ZoneAlarm is: http://www.zonelabs.com Be sure to read all the testimonials for the program. Don't be surprised it this one becomes so popular that the company starts charging for it! Especially now that it includes the ability to block execution of email script attachments, something that the major Anti-Virus programs still don't do properly. Enjoy, SgtGeorge

At 01:45 AM 5/19/00 -0400, George W. Durman wrote: >Hey, Mari, that's the first "gottcha" I have on YOU in a long >time! Thanks for giving me the opportunity. (GRIN) LOL My pleasure, George! Mari

Hey, Mari, that's the first "gottcha" I have on YOU in a long time! Thanks for giving me the opportunity. (GRIN) George At 01:17 AM 05/19/2000, Mari wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* LOL How many times have I sent people to the help files! Taste of my own medicine!! Thanks, George!! Mari At 12:03 AM 5/19/00 -0400, George W. Durman wrote: (From the Help file) "Guess Paragraphs: If this is on, extraneous carriage returns are removed from the message(s), leaving returns only at the ends of paragraphs and converting multiple spaces into tabs." This means that checking "Guess Paragraphs" will do about the same thing as "Unwrap Text" in the "Message Plugins". It will remove carriage returns (aren't they aggravating?) and leave only those that make new paragraphs. Makes for a much cleaner message. SgtGeorge **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT**************

LOL How many times have I sent people to the help files! Taste of my own medicine!! Thanks, George!! Mari At 12:03 AM 5/19/00 -0400, George W. Durman wrote: >(From the Help file) >"Guess Paragraphs: > >If this is on, extraneous carriage returns are removed from the >message(s), leaving returns only at the ends of paragraphs and converting >multiple spaces into tabs." > >This means that checking "Guess Paragraphs" will do about the same thing >as "Unwrap Text" in the "Message Plugins". It will remove carriage >returns (aren't they aggravating?) and leave only those that make new >paragraphs. Makes for a much cleaner message. > >SgtGeorge > > > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

At 11:41 PM 05/18/2000, Mari wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* Some people are soooooo smart!! <g> So what is the "guess paragraphs" option for? Tried the "?" and no help!! Mari At 10:47 PM 5/18/00 -0400, George W. Durman wrote: Nope!!!!! Not in Eudora. If you click "Save As", please notice that down at the bottom of the resulting window, there is a place to check for "Include Headers". If you don't put a check mark in this option, YES, you WILL save the email body-text only, without ANY headers. It's just a matter of paying attention and making sure you save the proper way. Regards, SgtGeorge **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** (From the Help file) "Guess Paragraphs: If this is on, extraneous carriage returns are removed from the message(s), leaving returns only at the ends of paragraphs and converting multiple spaces into tabs." This means that checking "Guess Paragraphs" will do about the same thing as "Unwrap Text" in the "Message Plugins". It will remove carriage returns (aren't they aggravating?) and leave only those that make new paragraphs. Makes for a much cleaner message. SgtGeorge

At 06:09 PM 05/16/2000, CLM wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* I use Eudora Light. Can someone tell me if and why Eudora Pro is better? I was thinking of updating and trying to find out all the pros and cons, if any. What is the price to upgrade? Should I buy over the internet? George, could you explain what you mean about McAfee vs Clinic? This is all very new to me and I'm trying to figure out what is best. <I use Eudora (not Netscape) as my email program, and use the standard on-my-own-computer McAfee, not Clinic. I am subscribed to Clinic, but just don't like the way it operates, too many associated problems.> I'd appreciate any help with the above questions. Thanks, Candace **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Candace, you didn't say which version of Light you are using. 3.0? 4.3? Which? If you are using Light 4.3, you can click on HELP, TOPICS, then choose "What's New in Eudora EMail 4.3". If you're using an older version of Light, let me know and I'll send you the appropriate .PDF files so that you can read them and see the advantages to the newest version. As to McAfee vs. Clinic. Most of us have McAfee Scan installed on our computers. That means that we have to constantly download new DAT files to make sure that we are protected from the latest viruses/trojans/worms. The "Clinic" option at McAfee allows you to never have to download files again, and just use Clinic to scan your computer. I don't like that. It means I have to logon to the web site before I can scan my system. I feel that I no longer have any control over the programs on my system, and, instead, have to rely on a web site. There are other options at McAfee that make it a lot easier on the average "newbie", but they require that the "old" McAfee Scan be uninstalled from one's system before signing up for the new "way" of virus detection. Heck, I paid to upgrade to McAfee Scan 5.0, but when trying to install it, I was given the message that I had the "wrong" version of Windows 98!!!!! I then tried to uninstall McAfee 4.X and was given the same warning! So far, I have written 6 messages to McAfee, asking how I can correct this problem, and how I can uninstall 4.X and install 5.X. The ONLY reply I have received was one that said my credit card was being credited with the price of upgrading to 5.X. Yes, it showed up on my credit card bill, but I still don't know how to uninstall 4.X. They never sent another email in answer to any of my queries. So much for what was once the best AV program on the market. These new "whiz kids" get hired by corporations and immediately screw things up to the point that nothing works as it should. So, I'm sticking with McAfee 4.3 until they stop making new DAT files for it. Having paid the money for Clinic, I can say that it offers very little for the price. SgtGeorge

At 04:05 PM 05/18/2000, David Lewin wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* I am beginning to detect differences which were nicer in the old LIGHT Version: In my beloved old Light version 1. Signatures - could have more than just one 2. Search worked inside an e-mail as well as in the mail boxes. 3. I did not have to battle with html format. The others lists to which I write keep begging ASCII mail only - how do I switch html off in PRO? The only real improvement that was important to me is the spell checker. Do I revert to Light 3.0.6 - I will have some sleepless nights, I think. David Lewin Lonodn ------- **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** David, let's take them one at a time: 1) You can have as many "signatures" as you wish! If you have the hard drive space, you could even have 10,000! 2) The most recent version of Eudora (4.3) allows you to search both WITHIN a single email, or to search ALL email in ALL of your mailboxes. a) To search WITHIN an email, CTRL-SHIFT-F b) To search ALL your emails, CTRL-F (This is covered in the Eudora Help file.) 3) Go to TOOLS, OPTIONS, STYLED TEXT; you have the following options: a) Send both plain and styled b) Send styled text only c) Send plain text only d) Ask me each time If you NEVER need to send in HTML, just choose "Send plain text only" and do NOT check "Ask me each time". You should never have any sleepless nights over Eudora 4.3!!!!! And, as to the only important improvement being the Spell Checker..... I don't think I could tell you all the important improvements in 4.3 without a resulting email that is way, way over the 15,000 byte limit for these Lists. Just let me say that the differences between Light 3.0.6 and Pro 4.3 are so many that it's like comparing the "Spirit of St. Louis" to the "Space Shuttle". What you need to do is read the following files: EUDORA.HLP MANUAL.PDF WHATSNEW.PDF There is so much information in these 3 files, you will need several hours to digest it all. I should note that in order to read the .PDF files, you will need Adobe Acrobat Reader, which is a FREE program, and can be downloaded from: http://www.adobe.com or http://www.eudora.com/download/other You CAN use the .HLP file by clicking on HELP, at the top of your screen, selecting "Topics", then choosing "What's New in Eudora 4.3". Hope this helps, SgtGeorge (P.S. If you need some tips on making more than one Signature, let me know.)

At 03:57 PM 05/18/2000, David Lewin wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* At 21:41 17/05/00 -0400, you wrote: I normally choose all the email in a Mailbox that concerns the same subject, say "KAK Worm", and save ALL them in a single .txt file, giving it an identifying name and date so I can open it later and find something I need to find. I would save the email from this List concerning KAK to a file "KAK Worm-051700.txt". It tells me the subject and the date. SgtGeorge There is DANGER in this - Save-as of your e-mail is saved WITHOUT the headers - you no longer have the From: Date: To: David Lewin **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Nope!!!!! Not in Eudora. If you click "Save As", please notice that down at the bottom of the resulting window, there is a place to check for "Include Headers". If you don't put a check mark in this option, YES, you WILL save the email body-text only, without ANY headers. It's just a matter of paying attention and making sure you save the proper way. Regards, SgtGeorge

At 11:05 PM 5/18/00 -0400, George W. Durman wrote: >2) The most recent version of Eudora (4.3) allows you to search both > WITHIN a single email, or to search ALL email in ALL of your > mailboxes. 4.2 does also.... Mari

Some people are soooooo smart!! <g> So what is the "guess paragraphs" option for? Tried the "?" and no help!! Mari At 10:47 PM 5/18/00 -0400, George W. Durman wrote: >Nope!!!!! Not in Eudora. If you click "Save As", please notice that down >at the bottom of the resulting window, there is a place to check for >"Include Headers". > >If you don't put a check mark in this option, YES, you WILL save the email >body-text only, without ANY headers. It's just a matter of paying >attention and making sure you save the proper way. > >Regards, >SgtGeorge > > >============================== >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

I am beginning to detect differences which were nicer in the old LIGHT Version: In my beloved old Light version 1. Signatures - could have more than just one 2. Search worked inside an e-mail as well as in the mail boxes. 3. I did not have to battle with html format. The others lists to which I write keep begging ASCII mail only - how do I switch html off in PRO? The only real improvement that was important to me is the spell checker. Do I revert to Light 3.0.6 - I will have some sleepless nights, I think. David Lewin Lonodn ------- The Search & Unite office attempts to help the many who suspect that despite the passage of so many years since World War II, someone may still exist "out there" http://remember.org/unite/

At 21:41 17/05/00 -0400, you wrote: >I normally choose all the email in a Mailbox that concerns the same >subject, say "KAK Worm", and save ALL them in a single .txt file, giving >it an identifying name and date so I can open it later and find something >I need to find. I would save the email from this List concerning KAK to a >file "KAK Worm-051700.txt". It tells me the subject and the date. > >SgtGeorge There is DANGER in this - Save-as of your e-mail is saved WITHOUT the headers - you no longer have the From: Date: To: David Lewin

I was just "fortunate" enough to receive an email that contained the "HAPPY99" virus. So, I can show you what we were discussing about "viewing" an email that contains a "virus attachment". A user sent me an email, requesting to be added to a notification list that I maintain. McAfee notified me that the email contained the "HAPPY99" virus. I chose to "move" the email AND the attached file to my C:\Infected directory. These were the two files that were added to that directory: 1) Temp.In 2) Happy99.exe Of course, I'm not ABOUT to touch the "Happy99.exe" file; I just deleted it. I used NotePad to open the "Temp.In" file. Here's what it shows: *************** Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from mail.alltel.net (mail.alltel.net [166.102.165.30]) by buckpalace.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(99/07/15 5.25)) id SAA05625; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 18:22:15 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: <[email protected]> Received: from oemcomputer ([162.39.130.102]) by mail.alltel.net (8.9.3/ALLTEL Messaging Service) with SMTP id RAA13980 for <[email protected]>; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 17:22:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <[email protected]> X-UIDL: 957057513.000 From: "Carel Osborne" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Notify-Me Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 17:31:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01BFB200.D24EFFC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Status: RO This is a multi-part message in MIME format. (This part was deleted because it contained the actual code for the virus. Yes, the virus came as an attachment, but was also contained in the "behind-the-scene" body text.) *************** In this case, I could easily discern whose system was infected, because the "HAPPY99" virus doesn't "fake" the From: address. The sender was: [email protected] I sent a reply to let him/her know that his/her system was now infected. In this case, I didn't even need to look at the Received: headers. Please note the email program used by the sender: MS Outlook Express!!!!! (People, get wise! Spend a little money and start using Eudora. Also, stop using MS Internet Explorer and download the FREE Netscape!) Hope this helps, SgtGeorge At 09:41 PM 05/17/2000, George W. Durman wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* At 03:33 PM 05/17/2000, Dan wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* How do you "use a text reader and look at the inside of the email without opening it, and see who sent it", George? Step by step, please! :o) -- Yours Aye - Murree. Scotland. (snip) **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Normally, you can't use a text reader to read an email that is in your email reader; however, when McAfee "saves" the infected email and "moves" it to the "Infected" directory, it puts it in "text" format. Then, you can read it just as you would any other text file. In Eudora, I can click on an email in the list of incoming, select "Save As" and save it as a .txt file. As a matter of fact, that's the way I clean out my email in Eudora from time to time, to keep active email at a minimum. I normally choose all the email in a Mailbox that concerns the same subject, say "KAK Worm", and save ALL them in a single .txt file, giving it an identifying name and date so I can open it later and find something I need to find. I would save the email from this List concerning KAK to a file "KAK Worm-051700.txt". It tells me the subject and the date. SgtGeorge **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT**************