>> > >Ginger....the same thing happened to me! I couldn't get past the parrot >picture splash screen. When I'd try and scan something, it would go >through the motions, make the first pass, and there would be that stupid >parrot. I grew to hate the thing! LOL The problem was that another >program was loading before the scanner, and that made the scanner go into >a tizzy fit and refuse to work. My "Mr. Fixit" came, and finally ended up >putting a dosleg entry in to make the scanner load first. I understood it >at the time, but my expertise is lacking in that area, and I can't tell >you where/how he did it. Maybe Jack knows? The weird thing with mine was >that part of the time the scanner would work, and part of the time I'd get >that stupid parrot splash screen and it would just all come to a >hault. Since Rick put in that dosleg line, it's been fine. Works like it >always did. Apparently the sporadic working/not working on again off >again deal was due to the fact that something else was sometimes loading >first instead of the scanner. When that happened, it wouldn't work. When >the scanner loaded first, it worked fine. > >Might this be her problem, Jack?? > >Mari Ok, Mari mine is different now with the new puter. Since we have the new puter we had built, the paperport program will no longer work with my unit. It appears it is outdated now. So, we had to download DeskScan II from HP's site. Now, I FINALLY got the scanner in properly and when you open the DeskScan program a little window pops up and allows you to scan.. and then it will ask you to give a string as to where to send it.. Before, you would just push the little green button on front of the scanner and paperport would pop open and away you go.. NOT ANYMORE.. I'm lost.. ginger ps, I use my scanner for my email as much as I do for my website work Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

YIPPEE... OK then, WHAT is the secret to the program now... ginger OBTW, have I told you lately how much I love this list.. LOL At 09:58 PM 5/22/00 -0500, you wrote: >At 09:55 PM 5/22/00 -0500, Mari wrote: >>At 08:58 PM 5/22/00 -0500, Mike & Ginger Woodcock wrote: >>> We have the HP ScanJet 5p... > >I have the same exact scanner! > >Mari Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

>> > >At present you may not have much of a choice, I would do a web scan using >just the word Paperport, a second one with Paperport and Scanning. I use >WebFerret and Copernic to do my basic searches. If you pay for Copernic >it is one of the most powerful searching programs out there. Both of >these can call home on you however if not set up correctly. If you end up >getting a new scanner, think very hard about getting a USB or SCSI scanner >for the new one if you computer has the proper ports. The ScanJet 5p was >good for its day, but is a bit long in the tooth for new computers. > >Jack Ok, explain... LOL :-) What do you mean long in the tooth and good in its day.. We bought it 4 yrs ago and it is a SCSI unit... do they really outdate as quickly as the puter itself.. geesh.. this is scary... ginger Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

At 09:55 PM 5/22/00 -0500, Mari wrote: >At 08:58 PM 5/22/00 -0500, Mike & Ginger Woodcock wrote: >> We have the HP ScanJet 5p... I have the same exact scanner! Mari

At 08:58 PM 5/22/00 -0500, Mike & Ginger Woodcock wrote: >Tell me something if you can... If you had Paperport with your scanner and >all of a sudden you can't use it anylonger, what other programs are out >there like Paperport that will do the same thing... We had to download a >program at HP called DeskScan II. It works the scanner, but I need a >program that will work like Paperport. We have the HP ScanJet 5p... I'm >really lost now.. I HATE HP.. I don't think I'll ever own another HP >product.. Infact my husband just left for Georgia and told me if I >couldn't get it running right by tomorrow, to go out and buy something >else.. arghhh... I don't like being beaten... not by a machine.. LOL Ginger....the same thing happened to me! I couldn't get past the parrot picture splash screen. When I'd try and scan something, it would go through the motions, make the first pass, and there would be that stupid parrot. I grew to hate the thing! LOL The problem was that another program was loading before the scanner, and that made the scanner go into a tizzy fit and refuse to work. My "Mr. Fixit" came, and finally ended up putting a dosleg entry in to make the scanner load first. I understood it at the time, but my expertise is lacking in that area, and I can't tell you where/how he did it. Maybe Jack knows? The weird thing with mine was that part of the time the scanner would work, and part of the time I'd get that stupid parrot splash screen and it would just all come to a hault. Since Rick put in that dosleg line, it's been fine. Works like it always did. Apparently the sporadic working/not working on again off again deal was due to the fact that something else was sometimes loading first instead of the scanner. When that happened, it wouldn't work. When the scanner loaded first, it worked fine. Might this be her problem, Jack?? Mari

> > >If you reinstall Windows, you can then log on to the Windows Update site >at Microsoft. Your system will "tell" MS what you have and what you don't >have in the way of updates. You then have to go through the long process >of letting each download and install. The easiest way to go to Windows >Update is to click on the "Start" button, then chose Windows Update. Will >take you right to the site. > >SgtGeorge But George, Didn't you say a while back that some of the things added to windows would allow problems... I'm trying my best to remember the conversation back around Jan....something about fixes and updates causing undo problems... Infact.. I was about to do some updating and decided against it.. Please enlighten me..I am at a lost now.. gee, must be the sudden rush of sugar from the piece of chocolate cake I just had.. *I'm diabetic* LOL ginger Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

At 01:32 AM 5/22/00 -0400, you wrote: >At 04:22 PM 05/21/2000, Mike & Ginger Woodcock wrote: >*************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* > > > >Try it, and see. You can use regedit and find the left overs from these >two in the register usually. Learn to use msconfig to cause things to not >load at startup also. > >Jack Ok, have a question about msconfig.. I ck'd there and have some files doubled.......Do I need double of all these things.. and how do I know what I can take out... I know, I know.. probably way too general... I'm sure that is what is slowing my unit down... I just tried to do a copy/paste.. duh.....doesn't work there.. ginger Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

At 01:24 AM 5/22/00 -0400, you wrote: >At 04:19 PM 05/21/2000, Mike & Ginger Woodcock wrote: >*************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* > > >Ginger, I think the problem is in the configuration. The quickest way to >get to System Scan Properties is to right-click on the "V-Shield" sitting >in your tray, move the mouse to "Properties", then click on "System >Scan". Click on the "Action" tab. Under "Possible Actions", you will see >5 different choices you can check. You have to check them in order to >have them available as options when a virus is found. Make sure you have >them checked. Bet you don't! (GRIN) :-)........<VEG> Bet I do.. LOL.. so far so good... phtttttttttttttttt LOLOL... I'm already ck'd just like you said... I do have a question... If I don't want it doing a scan each time I boot up, for the sake of time.. what do I UN check... system scan.. ??? See, I'm getting there.. LOL g Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

For most uses PSP is the best, but for fast service, easy slide shows and just a good all around viewer which will view just about any format of a graphics file, go to: http://www.hamrick.com/ And look at ViewPrint Pro 32. It has been around for a long time and is about $40 I believe. They also have a program called VueScan which will work with most scanners. Look at their on line manual for both to see what they do. They take up very little disk space, and are good to use on notebooks and such where there is usually a lack of disk space. Jack

At 10:42 PM 5/22/00 -0500, you wrote: >I have PSP6 and love it... Great. It is a powerful program. >LOL, you are *shoop* over my head now.. I could not tell you a USB from a >SCSI port on the back of my puter.. but do know I'm operating an AMD >Athlon 650 with 256 SDRAM, 27gigs, * 2 hdrives, split into 4, the ATI All >In Wonder Rage Video, Yamaha sound, internal zip, CD ReWriter, 50X CD ROM, >HP DeskJet 895Cse printer and the HP ScanJet 5p.. I think I'm bout filled >up in the back.. You have a romping stomping computer. You have at least one USB port, but probably two with the motherboards available to handle the CPU you are using. They are rectangular, about 3/4 inch long by 1/2 inch high, usually one on top of the second. Frequently near the fan for the power supply. >>This is a good time for my standard rant on programs that phone >>home. Copernic is good, but can phone home, if you do not set it up >>right. Use Zone Alarm, and you can almost stop it with ZA alone. Here >>is my Optout rant. >> >>How much do others know about your internet use? > > >>If you are not now a user of OPTOUT By Steve Gibson, you probably should >>be. Go to his new site and read about what the sites you visit and the >>programs you use have placed on your machine, as a part of their >>programs, to follow you about. Also how they look around for your name, >>address, and any other information about you that may be on your hard disk. > >Wow, this is scary.. Be ready for this, this is just the beginning. They intend to know everything you have on your computer, and how you surf the web. The can make a data base then with what you do and where you go. They sell this to anyone wanting to sell you something, wanting to kill your computer for fun, and of course the producers of software, to see if you are using software you did not pay for. Jack

At 12:07 AM 5/22/00 -0400, you wrote: >At 12:06 PM 05/21/2000, Mike & Ginger Woodcock wrote: >*************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* >Jack, you're "on a roll". I got one of those "pig tail" boards that gives >me the additional Parallel Port, Serial Port, etc., and am glad I >did. 'Course, configuring it was "hell", but it was well worth it. > >I have so many "peripherals" that I just ran out of ports! A simple >"second parallel port" board is the best for newbies, but the "pig tail" >gives so much more. > >As to the HP printers, I have to agree with you (about being in for a hard >time), even though it's your favorite. But, until HP "fixes" the problem, >I will still stick with my Epson printers. One thing that Epson has done >is assure that the code for the drivers is 100% compatible with the latest >systems, and with Win95 and Win98. > >The Epson printers, using the "high speed connections between the computer >and the printer, seem to not have the same problems as does HP. Setting >the BIOS for the printer was easy, and there has never been any conflict >with the SCANNER. 'Course, again, I'm using a "generic" scanner that my >wife ordered from HSN about 3 years ago, and even IT works with my printer >and with Win98SE. > >Regards, >SgtGeorge Tell me something if you can... If you had Paperport with your scanner and all of a sudden you can't use it anylonger, what other programs are out there like Paperport that will do the same thing... We had to download a program at HP called DeskScan II. It works the scanner, but I need a program that will work like Paperport. We have the HP ScanJet 5p... I'm really lost now.. I HATE HP.. I don't think I'll ever own another HP product.. Infact my husband just left for Georgia and told me if I couldn't get it running right by tomorrow, to go out and buy something else.. arghhh... I don't like being beaten... not by a machine.. LOL ginger Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

At 10:26 PM 5/22/00 -0500, you wrote: >Ok, explain... LOL :-) > >What do you mean long in the tooth and good in its day.. We bought it 4 >yrs ago and it is a SCSI unit... do they really outdate as quickly as the >puter itself.. geesh.. this is scary... At my last career, we used a fair amount of scanners, and found that anything under about $5000 was good for about 2 or 3 thousand scans at best unless you had a very good repair department. The mechanical parts wear out fairly soon. Four years is like two decades in a human life for a scanner. The technology is changing so fast, that the newer programs just do not like to deal with old technology. In the computer area, a computer is judged a throw away at about three years, a scanner used a lot about two to three years, printers about two years. Mostly do to the advances in technology that allows the programmers and computer makers to add speed and power. This obsoletes equipment built with old technology very fast. My last career was in High Energy Physics, and we had new technology changes weekly at times, and was very hard to keep up. Jack

Be aware, that I will be missing a lot for the next two weeks, I will try to answer some questions if I get home before midnight. I am rebuilding a house, and care giving at present, and trying to be too many places at the same time. I sometimes space out for a day or so, trying to keep it all together. I thought after 21 years with the Navy, 19 with the state of California in the UC university area, that I should be able to take it easy for a few years, but fate has stepped in, and changed all the wife's and my plans. I am going to be 65 in three months, and would like to do what I want to do sometime soon. I like to help people, but other duties provail. Jack

At 11:16 PM 5/22/00 -0400, you wrote: >I recently upgraded from Eudora Pro 3.0 to 4.3 and I haven't been able to >get Eudora to remember the password to start the dial-up. Nothing should >have changed but something apparently has. I have checked the Save >Password option in Options/Checking Mail. It's still checked. And every >time I type in the password I check the box to have Eudora remember it. > >If I am already connected there is no problem. Evidently it remembers that >same password to retrieve my mail. > >Does anyone have a clue what I need to do? > >Jim Do you allow cookies? Not sure with all ISP's and Eudora, but some ISP's require a cookie for their use, on your computer to let your password storage on Eudora work. Even though all POP servers should work the same, with all the virus problems and such some of the smaller ISP's are trying new things to help you, which sometimes hurt you. Jack

At 09:55 PM 5/22/00 -0500, you wrote: >Ginger....the same thing happened to me! I couldn't get past the parrot >picture splash screen. When I'd try and scan something, it would go >through the motions, make the first pass, and there would be that stupid >parrot. I grew to hate the thing! LOL The problem was that another >program was loading before the scanner, and that made the scanner go into >a tizzy fit and refuse to work. My "Mr. Fixit" came, and finally ended up >putting a dosleg entry in to make the scanner load first. I understood it >at the time, but my expertise is lacking in that area, and I can't tell >you where/how he did it. Maybe Jack knows? The weird thing with mine was >that part of the time the scanner would work, and part of the time I'd get >that stupid parrot splash screen and it would just all come to a >hault. Since Rick put in that dosleg line, it's been fine. Works like it >always did. Apparently the sporadic working/not working on again off >again deal was due to the fact that something else was sometimes loading >first instead of the scanner. When that happened, it wouldn't work. When >the scanner loaded first, it worked fine. > >Might this be her problem, Jack?? > >Mari Probably a good guess. And with Win95 the use of the config.sys and autoexec.bat files to load drivers and batch files can work around several problems. Some of the changes to Win95 make this hard however. In Win98 it is a lot harder to work around in this manner. Do able frequently, but a person has to have the computer in hand to see what can be done. This kind of problem is hard to work on at a distance. Jack

Kay, I don't know for sure....but it wouldn't hurt to check. At least that would be a possibility you could eliminate if it's not the problem. Mari At 07:55 PM 5/22/00 -0500, kgs wrote: >Ah, the is the rub. I don't know and even if I did I would not know how >to change it except for the advice from this list a few days ago. Is that >what I need to check? Was not sure enough to try it. >kay > >At06:38 PM 22-05-00,Mari wrote: >>Kay? >>What have you got specified as your text reader?? > > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

At 06:10 PM 5/22/00 -0700, Jack Henderson wrote: >At 07:32 AM 5/22/00 -0500, you wrote: >>(sigh) You guys still don't get it. Wasn't referring to the comment >>about the puter. Was referring to the comment about having two different >>spouses. >> >>George, You're slipping!!! >> >>Mari > >OK OK so we were all sleeping through out the past couple of dozen hours. LOL Actually, I jumped the gun. George answered...I just didn't see it till after I'd already sent my comment! Not good for a list admin, huh? <g> Mari

At 09:27 PM 5/22/00 -0500, you wrote: Ok, have a question about msconfig.. >I ck'd there and have some files doubled.......Do I need double of all >these things.. and how do I know what I can take out... You have probably installed the item twice, I have one in there four times. I still have not figured out how. I will go to the registry some time if I keep this system running very much longer, and find the duplicate entries and remove them. As long as they are unchecked, they will not load. If you need it, check one, and un check the second. If you un check something that is needed, it will tell you by not allowing some action to take place. You go into msconfig the second time and just recheck that item. For my All-in-One, scanner, printer, duplicator, I leave the automatic startup for scanning unchecked, until I need the scanner, then I recheck, restart, and use the scanner. This leaves the drivers where I need them on the machine, and can be controlled easly. >I know, I know.. probably way too general... Not really, there is no general items where computers go. Even if two computers have the same parts, by type, version, and close serial numbers for every part within, they will work different. Once you start loading Operating Systems and such it just gets worse. The problem with the OS's is not all users want the same things, so using the install program, will just install the parts they want. Second problem, MS will not take your word on some of the things, and even though you tell it to not load it, they will, because it will give them money if you use the item. They hope you will give in and use their version or program. E-mail program being a big example. Just try to get rid of Network Neighborhood unless you use some of the programmer programs. Jack

At 08:58 PM 5/22/00 -0500, you wrote: >Tell me something if you can... If you had Paperport with your scanner and >all of a sudden you can't use it anylonger, what other programs are out >there like Paperport that will do the same thing... We had to download a >program at HP called DeskScan II. It works the scanner, but I need a >program that will work like Paperport. We have the HP ScanJet 5p... I'm >really lost now.. I HATE HP.. I don't think I'll ever own another HP >product.. Infact my husband just left for Georgia and told me if I >couldn't get it running right by tomorrow, to go out and buy something >else.. arghhh... I don't like being beaten... not by a machine.. LOL At present you may not have much of a choice, I would do a web scan using just the word Paperport, a second one with Paperport and Scanning. I use WebFerret and Copernic to do my basic searches. If you pay for Copernic it is one of the most powerful searching programs out there. Both of these can call home on you however if not set up correctly. If you end up getting a new scanner, think very hard about getting a USB or SCSI scanner for the new one if you computer has the proper ports. The ScanJet 5p was good for its day, but is a bit long in the tooth for new computers. Jack

At 12:07 AM 5/22/00 -0400, you wrote: >What is a "pigtail" board. >All my ports are filled.. Everyone has it's own home, but HP Scanners >demand to be FIRST.. The printer was a piece of cake. The Scanner was >from hell. >My zip was very happy going into it's own slot and didn't care if it was >the last installed.. but, again, the scanner will scream and do nothing >unless all is removed and it is placed FIRST...geesh.. HP is a pain.. > >ginger To find out which order various programs will work, you can do a set up and try, and if that does not work try something else. A better way, is to do a net scan using something like Web Ferret or Copernic to find sites with data to help. On printers, for HP, I am not sure just now where it is, but on the HP site for the scanners, look for faq's, and technical papers. I seem to remember there was a couple of good ones talking about the problem. The scanners have always been touchy. In many cases, it is best to buy Paint Shop Pro, an evaluation is at http://www.jasc.com/download_4.asp and just install the Twain drivers for the scanner, and using the twain import function of PSP, to run the scanner. Some tweeking has to be done, but works. If you have a USB port or two, assuming your computer is new enough, and powerful enough, there are good adapters to plug into the USB, which will give you new, or more Parallel, Serial, NIC and other ports, just according to what you need and how much you want to pay. This is a good time for my standard rant on programs that phone home. Copernic is good, but can phone home, if you do not set it up right. Use Zone Alarm, and you can almost stop it with ZA alone. Here is my Optout rant. How much do others know about your internet use? If you are not now a user of OPTOUT By Steve Gibson, you probably should be. Go to his new site and read about what the sites you visit and the programs you use have placed on your machine, as a part of their programs, to follow you about. Also how they look around for your name, address, and any other information about you that may be on your hard disk. The URL is: http://grc.com/optout.htm Follow from there to find out what others are doing to us. Jack