At 08:34 PM 05/26/2000, Mike & Ginger Woodcock wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* 1) Zone Alarm detects the .VBS type of Trojan as it is coming into your system. I don't know what alert it gives if it finds one. The documentation at the web site wasn't clear on this subject. 2) You are understanding fine. 3) I'm getting ready to post a notice about the newly discovered mutation of the ILoveYou Trojan, called "Herbie: LoveBug II" by some. I'll put the notice in a separate email. SgtGeorge Can Zone Alarm be used along with McAfee. What other programs could be used together with virus scanners.. and what would be the benefit. g **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** ZoneAlarm can be used with McAfee or another AV program. OptOut and GeekTools WHOIS are two others. SgtGeorge

At 09:50 PM 05/26/2000, Mike & Ginger Woodcock wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* Can I just go to Tu Cows and do a search for OptOut ???? g **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Just go to: http://grc.com/optout.html And download it. While you're there run "ShieldsUp" on your system. It will tell you how vulnerable it is. SgtGeorge

At 08:50 PM 5/26/00 -0500, you wrote: > Can I just go to Tu Cows and do a search for OptOut ???? Go to: www.grc.com Follow the links. Jack

At 07:18 PM 5/26/00 -0400, you wrote: >At 5/22/2000 09:02 PM -0700, Jack Henderson wrote: >>>>If you are not now a user of OPTOUT By Steve Gibson, you probably >>>>should be. Go to his new site and read about what the sites you visit >>>>and the programs you use have placed on your machine, as a part of >>>>their programs, to follow you about. Also how they look around for >>>>your name, address, and any other information about you that may be on >>>>your hard disk. >>> >>>Wow, this is scary.. >> >>Be ready for this, this is just the beginning. They intend to know >>everything you have on your computer, and how you surf the web. The can >>make a data base then with what you do and where you go. They sell this >>to anyone wanting to sell you something, wanting to kill your computer >>for fun, and of course the producers of software, to see if you are using >>software you did not pay for. >> >>Jack > >I just installed OptOut, and found my system to be clean! Yeah!!!! > > >Sandra Walroth SW Pa [email protected] Sandra, I do not want to rain on your parade it is great you are clean. The first time it was ran on my machine, I had 23 baddies. I started here on the OPTOUT thing, for all, as that is what Steve has available at present, but if you have been keeping up to date and reading his site deeply, you will find that there are several that it does not find now, but he is actually making a pay for version that will. Steve has placed freeware on the net for over 20 years as well as his well written, and needed at the time Spinrite program, which he had to charge for, after all we all need to eat. When he gets it finished I will be the first or close to it to obtain it. It is evident there are over 10 or more others who are calling home every time you are on the net that he does not now catch. Good luck. If you are not using Zone Alarm, think about it. It will keep some of the bad guys from phoning home unless you allow them to. Some however use your html code in the Brower to phone home. Jack

At 06:58 PM 5/26/00 -0400, you wrote: >At 5/22/2000 08:09 PM -0700, you wrote: > >If you end up getting a new scanner, think very hard about > >getting a USB or SCSI scanner for the new one if you computer > >has the proper ports. The ScanJet 5p was good for its day, but > >is a bit long in the tooth for new computers. > > > >Jack > >I just got a new scanner. My old sheet fed one finally quit feeding. <g> > >I now have an Acer 640U flatbed. I had to install a USB card in my system >for it, and it was a disaster!!! Had hardware conflicts all over the >place. With some help, I straightened out all but one, but I don't use >that port anyway, so it could wait. > >Anyway, even though I haven't had much time to work with the new scanner, >I did get to play for a while one evening. So far, I like it! Has anyone >had an experience with the Acer scanners? My computer is an Acer, and >I've had pretty good luck with it - easy to upgrade. Right now, about >the only "original equipment" left is the motherboard, floppy drive and >video card. <vbg> Just got home, so will put in a minute or so for another of my rants. The manufactures of all parts have to follow some rules for their parts to work within the larger group of computers using DOS based Operating Systems of which, one is Windows. All the rest were run out of business or bought out. At the core of the machines is two very important functions. Basic input and output functions and a basic machine language bit of code which uses the bios functions to call up bits of code for the machine to use. When DOS was generated, it was a super set of an earlier op sys. Most of our present users are too young to remember it or it's basic reliance of earlier code. This goes all the way to the original machine code. We had to punch that in with push button switches, no tape, disk, or other input other than punched paper cards. Now what is that all about. As the systems got more complex, the general group of users wanted the machines to do more. This is just basic human greed in a good way. When Intel more or less began to get the basics for the parts standardized, we used 8 bit processors rather than 64 or 128 bit. From this it was assumed that we only needed a small number of IRQ's and DMA channels to more than use any code we would use. Now the real world has come on full force in less than 20 years, and our desktop machines are better than super computers of 4 or 5 years ago, but we are still saddled with the very few number of IRQ and DMA calls available in the hardware. We needed them for the drives we use, whether floppy, hard disk, CDRom, or DVD. We need them for the mouse, for the keyboard. Well you can see where I am heading, and know that there are not enough to go around. The newer OP SYS's like Win98 and to a degree W95 along with newer hardware was to let us do Plug and Play, where the old method of assigning a IRQ or DMA to a particular item, was no longer needed, as the sys would use the new hardware to do it for us. This has not arrived yet. Not all the P&P parts follow the Standards, and the Win98 code does not either. Some day, perhaps it will. This is mainly needed due the so called Intel architecture within the hardware. To get around the built in problems of basing all needs on 20 years old standards, a whole group of other manufacturers have made or designed newer chips and code to work better and bypass all the built in problems of DOS machines. OK enough History. This is the basic problem why we have problems with Scanners, and all most any external additions to the computers, as well as a few of the interior parts. When we have the problems, we have to find work around methods to make it work. This frequently requires changes in the bios, and making hard choices as just what the machine will work with totally. This requires some old hard head like me, close to you which can more or less tear the setup apart, and find a way to rearrange it to make it work. If you are not using some serial ports, for instance, you can borrow their IRQ's. It takes knowledge, time, and patiences to find answers. I really feel for those who do not have the luck to have some person close to work out the problems. An in all too many cases, there is no answer, and some part or item we think we need has to be removed before the new can be made to work. If we all could afford the newer, higher cost, but well thought out parts, we could do a lot more. Jack P.S. If this is just too much for all for me to run off at the mouth, say so and I will stop, and try as time permits to talk to people one to one to help if I think I can. It is necessary however for our machines to work correctly if we are to use programs such as Eudora, which can do so much for us. I go through about 500 e-mails each day, for work, and Genealogy, with a large side order of Digital Photography used in Genealogy for this, I have to have a good e-mail program, and a machine which works right, so I have been forced to learn what I do know, but I only think of myself as an advanced amateur compared to those who use to work for me.

At 08:24 PM 05/26/2000, Mike & Ginger Woodcock wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* I had a window come up this am that gave an error. The error said I had a missing file. The file name is ICG32.DLL Where can I find this file and where do I put it when I do find it.. I put my win98 2nd edition CD in and it didn't find it there... Can someone that has it just send to me and then install it.. would that work... I haven't a clue what this file is. I do know that the HP scanjet 5p really played havoc with my puter.. I'm doing much better since it was taken off.. :-) g **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Ginger, am sending the file as an attachment via a private email. Just move it to C:\WINDOWS SgtGeorge

VIRUS ALERT - W97M/[email protected] Dear McAfee.com Dispatch Subscriber: W97M/[email protected] is a variant of the W97M/Melissa family with a very dangerous payload. McAfee AVERT has given it a risk assessment of MEDIUM--ON WATCH. This is a worm and it spreads through email with an attachment in this format: Subject: Resume - Janet Simons To: Director of Sales/Marketing, Message: Attached is my resume with a list of references contained within. Please feel free to call or email me if you have any further questions regarding my experience. I am looking forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Janet Simons. Attachment: Explorer.doc If the file EXPLORER.DOC is opened, it forwards itself to everyone in your address book. When you close the attachment, it deletes files on your hard-drive. Please do not open the attachment. For more information about this worm, go to McAfee.com Virus Information Library. http://vil.mcafee.com/default.asp? McAfee.com

Can I just go to Tu Cows and do a search for OptOut ???? g Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

> > >Ginger, am sending the file as an attachment via a private email. > >Just move it to C:\WINDOWS > >SgtGeorge Thanks, I just got it and put it in.. I went down and rebooted, came back up without that annoying message window.. thanks so much.. I really love this list.. :-) g Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

At 07:18 PM 05/26/2000, Sandy wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* At 5/22/2000 09:02 PM -0700, Jack Henderson wrote: If you are not now a user of OPTOUT By Steve Gibson, you probably should be. Go to his new site and read about what the sites you visit and the programs you use have placed on your machine, as a part of their programs, to follow you about. Also how they look around for your name, address, and any other information about you that may be on your hard disk. Wow, this is scary.. Be ready for this, this is just the beginning. They intend to know everything you have on your computer, and how you surf the web. The can make a data base then with what you do and where you go. They sell this to anyone wanting to sell you something, wanting to kill your computer for fun, and of course the producers of software, to see if you are using software you did not pay for. Jack I just installed OptOut, and found my system to be clean! Yeah!!!! **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Just a suggestion, but anytime you install a new program, be sure to use OptOut. There are hundreds of programs that contain the Aureate install program, and which secretly install it when the main program is installing. When I do major upgrades to programs that I KNOW contain Aureate, I just run OptOut again. Note: You can choose to have OptOut scan your system every time you start Windows to check for Aureate's files, but once your system is clean, I suggest you change the settings so that it does NOT load at Windows startup. Slows down the system a little, and does use some Resources which are not recovered. I just made an entry in the Quick Launch utility (Win98), where I can click it when I want to run it. If any of you who are using Win98, want to add items to Quick Launch, let me know and I'll post instructions here. You can always click Start, Programs, and then the folder for the program you want to run, but that is just not "elegant", to say the least. Having a program in Quick Launch makes it instantly available when you're another program. And, having an icon on the Desktop means you have to minimize whatever program you're in, and then click the icon. Quick Launch was one of the greatest additions that MS made to Windows! I have used WinSettings for a couple of years, which does essentially the same thing, but am slowly moving often used programs from it to Quick Launch. That way, once I have everything transferred, I don't have to put up with WinSettings and the Resources it consumes, which is considerable. SgtGeorge

At 06:58 PM 05/26/2000, Sandy wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* At 5/22/2000 08:09 PM -0700, you wrote: >If you end up getting a new scanner, think very hard about >getting a USB or SCSI scanner for the new one if you computer >has the proper ports. The ScanJet 5p was good for its day, but >is a bit long in the tooth for new computers. > >Jack I just got a new scanner. My old sheet fed one finally quit feeding. <g> I now have an Acer 640U flatbed. I had to install a USB card in my system for it, and it was a disaster!!! Had hardware conflicts all over the place. With some help, I straightened out all but one, but I don't use that port anyway, so it could wait. Anyway, even though I haven't had much time to work with the new scanner, I did get to play for a while one evening. So far, I like it! Has anyone had an experience with the Acer scanners? My computer is an Acer, and I've had pretty good luck with it - easy to upgrade. Right now, about the only "original equipment" left is the motherboard, floppy drive and video card. <vbg> Sandra Walroth SW Pa [email protected] **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Haven't used an Acer, or known anyone who did. My scanner is an ImageReader from InfoTech, one that my bought from the Home Shopping Network about 3 years ago for $79.95. Yes, back when a "good" scanner cost at least $150.00 and most were even higher. It will scan up to 1200 dpi (interpolated), and up to 720 dpi "real". I couldn't, and still can't, believe the quality for $79.95! The software that came with it is fabulous, and my scans turn out very professional looking. I have scanned actual photos we took, "tweaked" them a bit in Paint Shop Pro, and then printed them on glossy photo paper. They look almost identical with the original photos, except they are BETTER! So much for buying a "cheap" scanner. In PSP, I just click on the scanner icon and away we go! SgtGeorge

At 04:40 PM 05/26/2000, George W. Durman wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* At 04:06 PM 05/26/2000, Randy Bosma wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* At 12:05 AM 05/26/2000 -0700, SgtGeorge wrote: Well, I HAVE thought about it and I'm stumped. Starting today, when Eudora tries to dial up, I get asked for my password again. If I go to Netscape, and the modem is not already running, I get asked for my password. If I manually start Dial Up, same thing. I not on concentric.net, and have not changed versions of IE in two years. (I've always used IE4 as installed w/Win95 and/or Netscape) 99% of the time Eudora is the one that dials and IE is not running. Eudora has always asked for 2, 3, or 4 password(s) - once for each personality and both inbound and outbound - only since the installation of the free upgrade from Eudora 4.1 to 4.2.2. Randy Bosma **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Eudora WILL ask for passwords the first time IF you put a check mark in the "Check Mail" box in the lower left. But, it should ONLY ask the first time! I've had NO problems with Eudora asking for passwords until yesterday morning. And, it's not ONLY Eudora. Using Netscape, MSIE, and other programs/utilities that automatically dial-up, I have been asked for passwords for two days now. So, it's NOT just Eudora, or just Concentric.Net. I really think that installing MSIE 5.5 screwed up the files in Windows. SgtGeorge **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Since I sent the email directly above, I've rebooted, and logged on and off various programs/services that were asking for Passwords. They are no longer asking! Go figure! SgtGeorge

At 02:21 26/05/2000 , you wrote: Hi All, Not sure what version of Winslow you are all using, but there was a problem with the early version of Win95 as regards passwords. There was a patch put on the Microsloth site to fix the problem. Cheers Peter. ********** Original Message Start ********** >At 11:57 PM 05/25/2000, Randy Bosma wrote: >*************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* >At 06:05 PM 05/24/2000 -0700, it was written: >Same with me. I'm taking care of two personalities, and when there is >outbound mail from both, I have to enter the (same) password four >times. It seems to think that it's going to have to dial in 4 times, but >it's always accomplished in one call. I'm fairly sure cookies don't apply >here -- we're not browsing the web, we're logging into a POP3 mail server. > >I'll be looking forward to this solution also. > >Randy Bosma >**************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** > >Well, I HAVE thought about it and I'm stumped. Starting today, when >Eudora tries to dial up, I get asked for my password again. If I go to >Netscape, and the modem is not already running, I get asked for my >password. If I manually start Dial Up, same thing. > >SgtGeorge ********** End of Original Message ********** Researching ...ARNOT(T), BISHOP, CHAPMAN, GREEN, HOL(E)MAN, MERRYMAN, PHIPPS, ROBSON, SAINSBURY, SA(U)NDERS, SAVAGE, YATES Email:- <mailto:[email protected]> Main Web Page:- http://www.wantree.com.au/~quartz/ Location:- Wanneroo, WA, 6065, Australia. Blended & Essential Oils Page:- http://www.wantree.com.au/~quartz/oils/ Spirit Guides Page:- http://www.wantree.com.au/~quartz/totem/

> >1) Zone Alarm detects the .VBS type of Trojan as it is coming into your >system. I don't know what alert it gives if it finds one. The >documentation at the web site wasn't clear on this subject. > >2) You are understanding fine. > >3) I'm getting ready to post a notice about the newly discovered mutation >of the ILoveYou Trojan, called "Herbie: LoveBug II" by some. I'll put the >notice in a separate email. > >SgtGeorge Can Zone Alarm be used along with McAfee. What other programs could be used together with virus scanners.. and what would be the benefit. g Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

How do I make sure all the tail ends of programs and fragments are really gone.. Is there a utility. I usually go to my computer, control panel, add and remove and then go to explore and make sure it is all gone.. I do this if the uninstall does not work, or there is not one.. I just don't know another way.. g Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

> >Partitioning the hard drive is an excellent idea. But..... on my old >system, I did the same thing that your guru did, made a small drive just >for Windows. BIG MISTAKE!!!!! Most programs you install put new files in >your Windows or Systems directory, things like those huge .dll files and >driver files for hardware, .drv files. > >I soon had that drive FULL! Just hope your guru made yours large enough >to hold future files. For the record, I just checked my Windows directory >and all sub-directories and have 1.4 Giga Bytes of data!!!!! > >SgtGeorge George, He made it 2.53 gig and I have 1.57 gig left.. and have Office 200, IE, stuff like that already there.. I don't think I have any more programs that MUST load on C... .. So, hopefully, I'll be Ok.. g Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

I had a window come up this am that gave an error. The error said I had a missing file. The file name is ICG32.DLL Where can I find this file and where do I put it when I do find it.. I put my win98 2nd edition CD in and it didn't find it there... Can someone that has it just send to me and then install it.. would that work... I haven't a clue what this file is. I do know that the HP scanjet 5p really played havoc with my puter.. I'm doing much better since it was taken off.. :-) g Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

>>> >> >>Be ready for this, this is just the beginning. They intend to know >>everything you have on your computer, and how you surf the web. The can >>make a data base then with what you do and where you go. They sell this >>to anyone wanting to sell you something, wanting to kill your computer >>for fun, and of course the producers of software, to see if you are using >>software you did not pay for. >> >>Jack > >I just installed OptOut, and found my system to be clean! Yeah!!!! > > >Sandra Walroth Tell me more about this... OptOut.. g Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

At 06:58 PM 5/26/00 -0400, you wrote: >At 5/22/2000 08:09 PM -0700, you wrote: > >If you end up getting a new scanner, think very hard about > >getting a USB or SCSI scanner for the new one if you computer > >has the proper ports. The ScanJet 5p was good for its day, but > >is a bit long in the tooth for new computers. > > > >Jack Jack, mine was a SCSI ScanJet 5p, but, still not up to snuff with the AMD Athlon I guess.. >I just got a new scanner. My old sheet fed one finally quit feeding. <g> > >I now have an Acer 640U flatbed. I had to install a USB card in my system >for it, and it was a disaster!!! Had hardware conflicts all over the >place. With some help, I straightened out all but one, but I don't use >that port anyway, so it could wait. > Sandy, My CD ReWriter is an Acer.. Our last monitors were Acers and had no trouble with them.. Let me know how you like it, I might be getting one as well. ginger Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

At 5/22/2000 09:02 PM -0700, Jack Henderson wrote: >>>If you are not now a user of OPTOUT By Steve Gibson, you probably should >>>be. Go to his new site and read about what the sites you visit and the >>>programs you use have placed on your machine, as a part of their >>>programs, to follow you about. Also how they look around for your name, >>>address, and any other information about you that may be on your hard disk. >> >>Wow, this is scary.. > >Be ready for this, this is just the beginning. They intend to know >everything you have on your computer, and how you surf the web. The can >make a data base then with what you do and where you go. They sell this >to anyone wanting to sell you something, wanting to kill your computer for >fun, and of course the producers of software, to see if you are using >software you did not pay for. > >Jack I just installed OptOut, and found my system to be clean! Yeah!!!! Sandra Walroth SW Pa [email protected] Carawind Australian Shepherds and Shetland Sheepdogs http://freepages.pets.rootsweb.com/~carawind/ WCOTC: http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/1181 GLASC: http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/1806