At 03:18 PM 05/31/2000, Mike & Ginger Woodcock wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* At 01:55 AM 5/31/00 -0400, you wrote: If you're a registered user at CNet.com, there are many neat FREE utilities listed daily. Here is the latest: ------------------------- Optimize your memory, cache, and system resource settings with MEMOKIT, an enhancement toolkit designed to pinpoint resource leaks and improve your PC's performance in low-memory situations: http://1.digital.cnet.com/cgi-bin1/flo?x=dAmEYumYuAwmBEuug ------------------------- George, since I have Norton Utilities installed, I don't need this, right..?? g **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** Ginger, I would ASSUME you don't need it, but am not sure how far Norton Utilities goes in this direction. Maybe a long-time user of Norton can help out here????? SgtGeorge

At 03:17 PM 05/31/2000, Mike & Ginger Woodcock wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* At 01:03 AM 5/31/00 -0500, you wrote: George, I think it would be of interest to note that the CuteFTP was listed as one of the programs that had Aureate included.....WS_FTP was not.... Mari Ok, here we go again with the Aureate thing.. I don't quite understand it.. but this catches my eye and I want to understand ALL about it now.. you see I use CuteFTP..... g **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** For those that missed the first go round about Aureate, here it is briefly. Aureate is a company that gathers computer user information and evidently sells it to companies to help them target potential customers of their products. To help gather the information, Aureate made a program that, when installed, secretly gathers information from a user's computer system. Then, at various times, while the user's modem is connected to the Internet, the Aureate program sends this information back to the Aureate server, all secretly, and unseen by the user. Here's the rub. Aureate made deals with hundreds of software producers to include the Aureate program in the installation programs of the other software producers. So, when you install, as an example, CuteFTP, the Aureate program is ALSO installed, but you don't know it, because it is "stealthed", that is, hidden from view. According to Aureate, they collect no PERSONAL information, such as name, email address, or other data; but, they DO collect demographic data on sites the user has visited, how often, etc., plus what kinds of items the user has purchased over the Web/Net. Getting rid of Aureate is very easy - just download and install OptOut. It will remove all Aureate files from the system. SgtGeorge

The only way I could get rid of it was to uninstall it... It drove me nuts too. Try Jack's suggestion ~~ maybe it's got some options in there somewhere :) Rene' At 09:47 PM 5/31/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Well Rene', >If I could figure out how to remove the darn thing from my sys tray, I >would... geepers.. it just keeps coming back.. I like the rest of the >utilities, but this and the image thing drive me nuts.. > >g >Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds >[email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com >Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, >Give us a call, or email with your questions. >Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end >of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-) > > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Yes, CuteFTP IS one of the programs that secretly installs Aureate, but so are so many other major, and very valuable, programs. One of my favorites is Copernic, a desktop search engine, and IT installs Aureate. I put up with it anyway, because after installing upgrades, I just run OptOut again and remove all the danged Aureate files. George At 02:03 AM 05/31/2000, Mari wrote: *************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* George, I think it would be of interest to note that the CuteFTP was listed as one of the programs that had Aureate included.....WS_FTP was not.... Mari At 01:42 AM 5/31/00 -0400, George W. Durman wrote: If you use WS_FTP Pro, thought you might be interested in knowing that version 6.5 has been released. For those of you who are not web site owners, it might also interest you to know that WS_FTP Pro is the co-favorite for uploading files to web sites, the other being CuteFTP, although I think WS_FTP Pro has edged ahead in the past few months. If you were using the 6.5 Beta, be sure to read ALL the instructions before downloading and installing. Here's the blurb from WinFile.com: WS_FTP Pro 6.5 - Demo: $40.00 - 2.2 Mb WS_FTP Pro is the fastest, most powerful Windows file transfer client available. With WS_FTP Pro, you can connect to any FTP server, browse through directories and files, and transfer files in either direction. WS_FTP Pro's Windows Explorer Interface lets you copy and move files within the familiar Windows Explorer, using the same reliable "core engine" as the classic WS_FTP interface. Features include session profile support for connecting to frequently accessed FTP site; remote to remote file transfer; advanced support for handling timeouts, port numbers, passive file transfers, and firewalls; convenient drag-and-drop capabilities to simplify and speed-up your file transfer tasks, and more. Transfer files easily with WS_FTP Pro 6.5. SgtGeorge ============================== Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi **************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT**************

At 07:05 PM 5/31/2000 -0700, you wrote: Ginger, One comment about the programs you always have opened ~~ PSP6 is a memory hog and will cause problems. This coming from avid PSP6 users I've become friends with. Most of them use PSP6 constantly and find that it will cause lockups especially when having as many programs as you have open at the same time. They have experimented with having different combinations of programs open, and invariably have found that PSP6 is the culprit. Now, none of them will give up PSP6, but they have found that when using it, to shut down all other programs. I also have had the same problem with PSP both versions 5 and 6. Since I do web page design, I also like to have all the other programs open with it, but have found that it is easier to reopen the programs than to mess with having to reboot all the time ;) My system tray consists of the following on startup: Task Scheduler, Ensoniq Mixer, AnalogX MaxMem (available at www.analogx.com), Norton AV Auto Protect, AnalogX AtomicTimeSync, ZoneAlarm, Snappy Fax2000. I hope this discussion stays on the list as I have learned a lot from it and hope that I have contributed some also. :) Rene' > >>When working I almost always have Eudora opened monitoring my mail every >>10 minutes, Netscape, IE, HTML Notepad, Cute FTP, PSP6, MSM, ... I guess >>that would cover it.. Sometime during the work load, I'd ALWAYS lockup.... >> >>I'm hoping others are enjoying this class time with you and George and >>Mari as well. I'm soaking it up like a sponge. My husband has me keeping >>copies so he can ck out his puter in the other room.. :-).. >>I'm definitely willing to learn, so please will you, George continue.. If >>others prefer, we can take it private.. > >Going private is OK with me, but we should see what others say, whether >this is good for them. >

Ginger, I found that Norton Crash Guard caused more problems than it was worth. I like using the rest of the utilities they have but not it. The only way I found to "get rid of it" was to uninstall the darn thing ~~ and I haven't missed it one bit :) !! I don't have any of the Nortion utilities in the start up. Instead I use them on a weekly basis by using the Task Scheduler and having them run while I'm sleeping. Saves on having the resources used at start up. Rene' >Thanks Jack.. I know that my Norton Crash guard is coming again and again.. >I just can't get it to stay unclicked.. is there a secret to it as well.. > >g >Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds >[email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com >Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, >Give us a call, or email with your questions. >Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end >of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-) > > >============================== >Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. >RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: >http://pml.rootsweb.com/

> >Go to start, and open Norton CrashGuard. > >On the opening window, is a link labeled settings. > >Select it, and it will let you control crashguard. > >Most programs has something similar to this somewhere in the startup >window, if you can just learn what it is called. > >Jack phtttttttt, I quit... I did the above and uncked the enable buttons, hit apply, Ok.. and even rebooted.. it is still there.. I went to add/remove programs, it is not there.. I went to explorer and there is no uninstall option that I can find in the folder.. so the thing will just have to live there.. ;-) arghh g Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

At 10:18 PM 5/31/00 -0400, you wrote: >Ginger, > >I found that Norton Crash Guard caused more problems than it was worth. I >like using the rest of the utilities they have but not it. The only way I >found to "get rid of it" was to uninstall the darn thing ~~ and I haven't >missed it one bit :) !! > >I don't have any of the Nortion utilities in the start up. Instead I use >them on a weekly basis by using the Task Scheduler and having them run >while I'm sleeping. Saves on having the resources used at start up. > >Rene' Well Rene', If I could figure out how to remove the darn thing from my sys tray, I would... geepers.. it just keeps coming back.. I like the rest of the utilities, but this and the image thing drive me nuts.. g Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

At 06:34 PM 5/31/00 -0700, you wrote: >At 09:04 PM 5/30/00 -0500, you wrote: > >>LOLOL... I can't find the file where sound is located, so guess it will >>have to stay.. > >Control panel, Multimedia Properties, audio, you can turn off the volume >control. > >Control panel, Sounds, is where you select sounds for each action of the >computer. You can turn them all off there, one at a time. > >Jack I want sound on my puter, I just thougt George was talking about removing the icon from my sys tray and putting the icon on the other end of the bottom bar by start.. Am I confused now LOL g Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

At 06:04 PM 5/31/00 -0700, you wrote: >At 10:32 PM 5/30/00 -0500, you wrote: >> I have a bugger in my machine. I keep going to msconfig and UN >> clicking ATI launchpad and every other ATI item and hit apply, ok, restart.. >> >>AND the darned thing is always back.. LOLOL.. I'm telling you it is like >>the ads in Eudora.. I could not get rid of them for ever it seemed.. >> >>geesh.. > >Go to the desktop, find a clear place, and right click. when the menu >opens, select properties. In the properties window, select the settings >tab, and on that window, select advanced. This gives you ATI's >controls. From there you should be able to do some turning off. The >items are probably being turned back on by some INI file. Hopefully you >can control it here. If not, you can search the INI files, and as a last >resort, reinstall the drivers. ATI has come out with new drivers for >several of their cards in the past two months. > >Jack Thanks Jack.. I know that my Norton Crash guard is coming again and again.. I just can't get it to stay unclicked.. is there a secret to it as well.. g Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds [email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, Give us a call, or email with your questions. Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-)

At 08:46 PM 5/31/00 -0500, you wrote: >I want sound on my puter, I just thougt George was talking about removing >the icon from my sys tray and putting the icon on the other end of the >bottom bar by start.. Am I confused now LOL Do not use the sys tray, due to usage of system resources there, (even though small), but I will try to see where they are in the Windows folder. They will be there somewhere, and you can do about anything you want to with the icon, or shortcut that you want to. Jack

At 08:27 PM 5/31/00 -0500, you wrote: >Thanks Jack.. I know that my Norton Crash guard is coming again and >again.. I just can't get it to stay unclicked.. is there a secret to it as >well.. Go to start, and open Norton CrashGuard. On the opening window, is a link labeled settings. Select it, and it will let you control crashguard. Most programs has something similar to this somewhere in the startup window, if you can just learn what it is called. Jack

Ginger, My Eudora.ini file is in my main Eudora directory. Hope this helps ;) Rene' At 06:38 PM 5/31/2000 -0500, you wrote: > >> >> >>OK, I see you're using Eudora 4.3.1. If you checked EUDORA.INI and found >>this line: >> >>EditAllHeaders=1 > >George, I don't see EUDORA.INI file listed. If it is called EUDORA.INI.. >I'm in trouble.. big time.. :-) > >After you send me in the right direction here, I'll continue on.. ;-) > >g > > > >>Then you can go to work. If that line is NOT in EUDORA.INI, use a text >>editor, such as NotePad, and, under the [Settings] header, add that line. >> >>Click to compose a New Message, or reply to an original. In the From: >>line, delete whatever you have set as default, and just type in whatever >>you want there. >> >>Test it by sending a message to yourself. Send it, wait a couple of >>minutes, and download your waiting email. You should have one to you, >>from whatever address you typed in. >> >>Unless you also used Edit-X, if you "expand" the headers in the received >>email (by clicking on the "Blah-Blah-Blah" icon), you will see a header >>like this: >> >>X-sender: >> >>Which will contain your "real" address, as configured in Eudora. >> >>If you use Edit-X to prevent Eudora from adding the "X-sender" header, >>there will be no header in the test email that identifies you, except for >>the one that is used internally by @sat.net to identify you and the >>message ID. Such a header will contain something like this: >> >><[email protected]> >> >>That would identify you to @sat.net, but no one else can find out who sent it. >> >>Hope this helps, >>SgtGeorge > >Mike & Ginger Woodcock/EagleRun Australian Shepherds >[email protected] http://www.eaglerun1.com >Ginger's WebDesign is here to help with your Web Needs, >Give us a call, or email with your questions. >Remember, the purchase of an EagleRun Aussie is not the end >of a Transaction, it is the Beginning of a Relationship, enjoy!! :-) > > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

I know you weren't putting it down Mari (hence the smile in my sig), but a lot of people believe everything they read or hear and won't consider a program because of that. Mine was a "heads up" email as well..... Rene' :) At 06:36 PM 5/31/2000 -0500, you wrote: >At 07:22 PM 5/31/00 -0400, Rene' Marker wrote: >>I was concerned about the Aureate matter since CuteFTP was listed as one of >>those programs, but my system scanned clean. The version of CuteFTP listed >>as having Aureate is CuteFTP 3.0. I use CuteFTP 2.8. It does what I want >>and I've been using it for 3 years. >> >>Just because a software is listed on the Aureate list does not mean it will >>positively load Aureate on your system. That's what OptOut is for ~~ cleans >>your system of Aureate files. >> >>JMHO - Rene' :) > >I'm well aware of the difference in versions playing a part in it. It was >just a "heads up" for people to check. >Not a put down of the product. > >Mari > > >============================== >Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. >RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: >http://pml.rootsweb.com/

At 06:38 PM 5/31/00 -0500, you wrote: >George, I don't see EUDORA.INI file listed. If it is called EUDORA.INI.. >I'm in trouble.. big time.. :-) > >After you send me in the right direction here, I'll continue on.. ;-) > >g Remember if you are looking for a file or program, and you think you have the name or part of the name, go to Start, left click, go down menu to find, left click, insert the name or part of into the box, and start the find. If the program is on the disk, it will find it. (be sure to tell the computer to show all hidden files) Once it is found you can work on it in the find window, or use explorer, and go to the file, where the find list shows it to be. Jack

At 03:59 05/31/2000 -0400, you wrote: >At 02:34 AM 05/31/2000, Mari wrote: >*************START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************* >At 11:25 PM 5/30/00 -0700, Carol Sue wrote: >Thank you George. And please don't run off with Ginger. I read all the posts >and have learned more here than anywhere else. Carol Sue > >Oh, my...OH, MY! LOL George, really!! <g> > >Mari >**************END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT************** > >Hey guys and gals, I'm not running off with anyone! Running off at the mouth >is more like it. > >George > > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > > George, I thought you had the command at the bottom of your messages. While you're running off at the mouth, would you tell me how to unsubscribe? I know that's a dumb request but this so-called EUDORA list is more than I can take on a daily basis. Roy Patton

At 02:17 PM 5/31/00 -0500, you wrote: >Ok, here we go again with the Aureate thing.. I don't quite understand >it.. but this catches my eye and I want to understand ALL about it now.. >you see I use CuteFTP..... Give Steve Gibson a bit more time, he is really good, have worked in the past with him on a lot of things, he should get more information and data for us soon. He will charge for the new OPTOUT, but I will be standing in line for it. He is working with quite a large group at present trying to get a good handle on not only the Aureate problem, but on all programs which call home. Check his web site about once or twice a week. For advance notice if he finds anything important, he will broadcast a wake up to you if you sign up for his notification program. It is still beta, but I get mail every two weeks or so. Jack

I was concerned about the Aureate matter since CuteFTP was listed as one of those programs, but my system scanned clean. The version of CuteFTP listed as having Aureate is CuteFTP 3.0. I use CuteFTP 2.8. It does what I want and I've been using it for 3 years. Just because a software is listed on the Aureate list does not mean it will positively load Aureate on your system. That's what OptOut is for ~~ cleans your system of Aureate files. JMHO - Rene' :) >George, I think it would be of interest to note that the CuteFTP was listed >as one of the programs that had Aureate included.....WS_FTP was not.... > >Mari > >At 01:42 AM 5/31/00 -0400, George W. Durman wrote: >>If you use WS_FTP Pro, thought you might be interested in knowing that >>version 6.5 has been released. For those of you who are not web site >>owners, it might also interest you to know that WS_FTP Pro is the >>co-favorite for uploading files to web sites, the other being CuteFTP, >>although I think WS_FTP Pro has edged ahead in the past few months. >> >>If you were using the 6.5 Beta, be sure to read ALL the instructions >>before downloading and installing. >> >>Here's the blurb from WinFile.com: >> >>WS_FTP Pro 6.5 - Demo: $40.00 - 2.2 Mb >> >>WS_FTP Pro is the fastest, most powerful Windows file transfer >>client available. With WS_FTP Pro, you can connect to any FTP >>server, browse through directories and files, and transfer files in >>either direction. WS_FTP Pro's Windows Explorer Interface lets you >>copy and move files within the familiar Windows Explorer, using the >>same reliable "core engine" as the classic WS_FTP interface. >>Features include session profile support for connecting to >>frequently accessed FTP site; remote to remote file transfer; >>advanced support for handling timeouts, port numbers, passive file >>transfers, and firewalls; convenient drag-and-drop capabilities to >>simplify and speed-up your file transfer tasks, and more. Transfer >>files easily with WS_FTP Pro 6.5. >> >> >>SgtGeorge

At 07:45 PM 5/31/00 -0400, Rene' Marker wrote: >I know you weren't putting it down Mari (hence the smile in my sig), but a >lot of people believe everything they read or hear and won't consider a >program because of that. Mine was a "heads up" email as well..... > >Rene' :) LOL good. We understand each other then! :) Mari

At 11:49 PM 5/30/00 -0500, you wrote: OK, I'm going to take this a piece at a time.. some of this I don't understand.. Or it might be the terminology you are using that I don't understand. >This is definitely Eudora related.. she is a glutton on our systems.. but >I must say I love her dearly.. > >What is a TSR.. Terminate and stay resident. Your AV program is a TSR. It stays in the stack, looking at everything that goes by, and attacks anything it does not like. >What do you mean the scanner software is installed for scanner init. >scanning Does a scanner load at boot up?? I can initiate scanning from the R40 by pushing a button. If I do not plan any scanning for the present computer time, I do not need the speed of the push button, so un-check it in msconfig. If I do need it, I run msconfig, re-check it, and reboot. Now it is there for fast scanning without touching the keyboard. >You lucky stick with a cable modem.. :-) Sure beats anything I have used at home. Of course before I retired, I was at a University Lab, with a 10 meg router, on the big pipe to the internet. Blows even Cable away. >What do you mean load in a line... Try to install the software one by one in line so that they code in the stacks works well together. This can take a lot of time, but pays off. When I was setting up computers for the Physicist and Engineers, I only had to do it once as a rule, as they all used about the same programs. Only if one needed a special CAD or Simulate program, was their general set of programs different. I would not let them get cute and run games and such that I had not worked on, to make sure they were not going to kill their paying work. >Explain the memory stack > >What does the sentence which of the 3 resource stacks is the worst >for my system.. There are three programs that load when the bios loads. They control the input/output, control of who gets the CPU etc. Each has its own part of the first megabyte of memory to use in the computer. These are the resource stacks. They are limited in size, so we have the overflow of stack problem. Go to My Computer, and right click the icon. Under the menu, you will will see an item called System Information. If it is not there, you are probably in W95 and did not tell it to load. It is in the normal installation for W98. Left click, and open the window. Choose the Memory tab, and you will see the stacks. It shows which part of memory is used by each program. The stacks however is not all that is shown. Your programs such as Eudora will also show. It has a graphic, which shows memory usage. You will discover you have more Windows memory than Physical memory. This has to do with disk swapping. The other tabs let you look at the other things going on at the time. >I haven't a clue if I'm letting windows control my swap disk.. I don't >even think I know what it is.. :-) Go to My Computer, right click and chose system properties. Under performance tab is your virtual memory. If you click this you will see how it is handled. There are as many ways to do this swapping as there are users, so I will not go into the way to use it here. If I get time I will try to find some web sites which discuss this. It is very involved, but you can speed up your work and save some resources at times by controlling the swap yourself. If you do it wrong however you will kill the computer, causing you to do a clean install again, starting at fdisk. When in areas like this, if you do not want any thing to change by accident, cancel yourself out of the windows, by just selecting cancel. >When working I almost always have Eudora opened monitoring my mail every >10 minutes, Netscape, IE, HTML Notepad, Cute FTP, PSP6, MSM, ... I guess >that would cover it.. Sometime during the work load, I'd ALWAYS lockup.... > >I'm hoping others are enjoying this class time with you and George and >Mari as well. I'm soaking it up like a sponge. My husband has me keeping >copies so he can ck out his puter in the other room.. :-).. >I'm definitely willing to learn, so please will you, George continue.. If >others prefer, we can take it private.. Going private is OK with me, but we should see what others say, whether this is good for them. Jack PS I am just an intermediate computer user, not an expert, so I do slip at times. George, sound up if anything I say sounds wrong.