BJ, Thanks for posting this. I had the dates, but they came from published histories of Yellville, Military records, and family historians. You asked about Ransom. I have a Ransom Estes (b. 1873) so it may be him. However, there are a number of descendants of John and Charlotte with the middle initial R. also in their names so I wouldn't say it is absolutely him, because of the possibility that one of the others could have gone by their middle name. In any case, I have a Ransom (b. 1873) as the son of John G. (Giddeon?) Estes and Missouri Wood. Here's where my research is different than the information on the Estes site. I have John G. (not Minton) Estes (b. 7 Jan 1830 Cannon County, TN d. 14 Feb 1873 Marion County, Ark) as the son of John Moses (not Minton) Estes (b. 28 Apr 1804 Greenville County, SC d. 13 Mar 1881 Yellville, Ark) and Charlotte Elkins (b. 7 Mar 1809 Tennessee d. 19 Jan 1908 Yellville). Both burried near the airport at Flippin, Arkansas. Charlotte (Charlotta) was the daughter of Murphy Elkins and Stacy Dillard. I'm also not sure where I got the middle name. My software does not let me differentiate sources between surnames, given names, and middle names. But, I have the sources listed and I'll have to go back and look at the hard copies individually to see where I got the middle name of Moses. If I'd have known there would be a question about it, I suppose I'd have made a note of it directly in my files. My differences don't seem to be dates, but the middle name of Minton. I am not saying that the middle name of Minton is incorrect, or impossible. In fact, there were some descendants of John and Charlotte with the name Minton (for instance James C. Estes and Mira Moore named a son Gilbert Minton). I just wanted to find out where it comes from so I could get my records correct. BTW, about the Gideon? middle name reference. I vaguely recall that a Gideon Thompson was John's brother-in-law (husband of Margaret) and they fought in the civil war together and went to prison camp together. Do you know anything about about Gideon Thompson and Margaret? I have that they had two children, but don't have any firm dates on Gideon Thompson or his parents. Obviously, he had some effect on the family as several other siblings named their children Gideon. I am mostly interested in the Barnhill, Lewis, Parker, Hutchinson, Wood and Bell connections as this is where my lines connect. Thanks again, for posting the tombstone records. April >From: canerday@mindspring.com (b j canerday) >To: ESTES-L@rootsweb.com >Oh, finally - I can help with this one! > >I'm holding 'hard' evidence in my hand. A photo of of the tombstone of >John! Let me tell you what it says. > >John & Charlotte are both buried in the Flippin, Arkansas cemetary. I will >scan and send .jpgs to anyone who wants them - although they may not read >too well. John's says. . . >--------------- > >Gone Home >(picture of a lamb here) >John Estes >Husband of >CHARLOTIA ESTES > Born >Apr. 28, 1804; > Died >Mar. 13, 1881; > Aged >76 Ys. 10 Ms. 15 Ds. >----------------------- >I know, I know, Charlotte's name is spelled different. So what else is >new. Anyway, right beside him is. . . >----------------------- > >CHARLOTTE >WIFE OF >JOHN ESTES >Born Mar. 1809 >Died Feb. 1908 >Aged 98 Years > 11 Months >----------------------- > >I have in my records that his name was John Minton Estes but that was before >(sorry) I started to document WHERE I got everything. I'll find it again. >I do believe it was Minton tho. . .not Moses. This is John, Son of Gallant >& Margaret, who came from Tennessee. > >Also alongside them is the tombstone of Ransom Estes, Born Sept 6, 1872, >Died Dec. 10, 1904 Aged 32Y 3M 4D >Blessed are the pure in heart for they are of the kingdom of heaven > >I've asked before. . .but does anybody know anything about Ransom? I want to find ALL of them! So far I only have a few thousand.