G'day Phyllis, Catherine, d/o William Estes and Elizabeth Sansbury is part of the family group: : . Robert/Robin ESTES (1748-1822) of VA; to NC by 1786, d.St Francois Co, MO [52,h1,h2] : . +Oney HARRIS [52,h1,h2] : . . Barnet ESTES (1776) of ?VA [52,h1,h2] : . . +Mary HEAD; 1804 [52,h1] : . . Susanne ESTES (1777) of ?VA [52,h1,h2] : . . +William EADS [h1] : . . Smith ESTES (1779-1843) of ?VA; d.Cole Co, MO [52,h1,h2] : . . +Catherine CUNNINGHAM; 1807, Knox Co, TN [h1,h2] : . . . Delilah ESTES [h2] : . . . +James SCIDMORE [h2] : . . . William C. ESTES (1810) of Madison Co, KY [h2] ******* : . . . +Elizabeth SANSBURY; 1830, Cole Co, MO [h2] ******* : . . . Elizabeth Harris ESTES (1812-1882) of Jefferson Co, KY; d.Sonoma Co, CA [h2] : . . . +William Hamilton SANSBURY; 1832, Cole Co, MO [h2] : . . . . Louisa Catherine SANSBURY [h2] : . . . . John Randolph SANSBURY [h2] : . . . . Mary Ann SANSBURY [h2] : . . . . Benjamin Francis SANSBURY [h2] : . . . . Sarah Caroline SANSBURY [h2] : . . . . Rhoda Teresa SANSBURY [h2] : . . . Robert ESTES [h2] : . . . +Susannah MIDEWAR; 1836, Cole Co, MO [h2] : . . . Mathias ESTES [h2] : . . +Jemima ? [h2] : . . Nancy ESTES (1781) of ?VA [52,h1,h2] : . . Elizabeth ESTES (1783) of ?VA [52,h1,h2] : . . +William PATTERSON [h1] : . . +Jacob MOSTELLER [h1] : . . +Joseph MEETNER; 1823 [52] : . . John ESTES (1785-1834) of ?VA [52,h1,h2] : . . +Katherine TAUGHT [52,h1] : . . Rhoda ESTES (1787) of Watauga Co, NC [52,h1,h2] : . . Sarah ESTES (1789) of Watauga Co, NC [52,h1,h2] : . . Delilah ESTES (1791) of "Grainger Co, TN" [52,h1,h2] : . . +James MENTEER; 1822 [52,h1] Sources: [h1] Lorraine Cates, "Estes trails", XV, No.3, 1997, p.1. [h2] Vonda Cooper, in "Estes Trails", 1992, 12.1, p.7. Also ibid, 1991, 11.2, pp.7-8. Sources: 1830, 1850 Cole Co, MO census; Knox Co, TN marriage index; probate for Smith Estes, 1843, Cole Co, MO; 1810 Madison Co, KY census; "Missouri Marriages before 1840", Susan Ormasher, p.73; family records. [52] Lorraine Cates; Estes Trails, 1981, 2#1. I dont have email address for either Lorraine or Vonda. I also dont know where Robert/Robin fits into the Estes picture. If anyone knows who'se son he is, please let us know!! BTW, the above is snipped from my "Loose Branches" file on my web site. > Anyway my question is her AFN # is 188Q-ZN1 .. Beware of anything in the ancestral file, which this is sicne it comes with an AFN. AF material can be excellent, well researched, or it can be total trash. I've found both myself. > .. a Mrs. Cooper of Fremont California gave the information. It > showed her father as William C. Estes and mother Elizabeth Sansbury. > Does anyone have any information on this family. How can I find out > the documentation on this? See above for further info on the family. As for documentation, you'd need to contact the LDS (there may be a way of doing this via the web site or visit ya nearest LDS FHC), they will then give you the contact details for Mrs Cooper. However .. since the AF goes back quite a few decades, there's a good chance that she may not be in, ahh, a condition to help you. You best bet would be to contact Larry Duke, the current editor of Estes Trails (he's on this list too) and see if he has current addresses for Lorraine and Vonda, assuming they too are in a, err, position to help. Ie: assuming they are still living. Incidently, I have you down in my contact file with the note "Katherine Estes, b.1836, d/o Ambrose Carlton Estes. I take it you've since proven Ambrose was not her father? cheers, David. -- The universe is not only queerer that we imagine, it is queerer than we *can* imagine - J. B. S. Haldane DC2.D A+++! L^ Pfwl Bfl Fo R+++! Ac+ J-- S++ Fr+++! I+ H++ $ M V+++ Cag http://xenon.triode.net.au/~dragon mailto:dragon@triode.net.au