G'day all, I've gotten a number of replies to this so I'm replying to the list to save time .. and for anyone who was interested but didn't reply (yet). For those wondering what a web ring is .. it's a system where webpages on different ISP's can be connected. Somewhere on your webpage (it presumes you have a web page by the way), the web-ring menu will appear with various options. Someone looking at your page can then click on the appropiate item in the menu and they will be redirected to another web-site which is listed on the ring. Either the next registered site or a random site, depending on which menu selection you make. Member's of the web-ring first register at the web-ring server (dead easy) and are told to include a bunch of java code in their web page ('tis just cut and paste). The web-ring administrator is then informed and he/she checks the webpage and activates it in the ring. Incidently, you need to have a webpage in which you can paste in this bit of code. Some of the ISP's which host genealogy web pages wont allow this - you are stuck with the format they have. If you want to see what such a web-ring looks like, you can have a look at my Powell webpage, which has a web-ring link at the end. The url is: http://xenon.triode.net.au/~dragon/ft/powell.html If there's enuf interest to go ahead with the web-ring, it'll be using the same web-ring server as the Powell web-ring (bravenet). There are others, including the now defunct "Web Ring" which was recently aquired by yahoo .. and as soon as yahoo started "improving" it, the whole system collapsed and is still not working properly. If there's not enuf interest to warrant all the hassle of setting up a web-ring, I'll still go ahead and set up a simplified version on my own site. So far I've got 6 nibbles, one of whom doesn't have a web page at the moment. I've got 23 (plus mine) listed on my web-site "other estes web pages" so I know there's plenty of others out there!! cheers, David. -- The universe is not only queerer that we imagine, it is queerer than we *can* imagine - J. B. S. Haldane DC2.D A+++! L^ Pfwl Bfl Fo R+++! Ac+ J-- S++ Fr+++! I+ H++ $ M V+++ Cag http://xenon.triode.net.au/~dragon mailto:dragon@triode.net.au