Mrs. Doris Marie Smith passed today June 1st 2001. After a two year battle with cancer a loving mother who was preceeded in death by her daughter Ella M. Gadd, son Brian Gene Smith and grandson Shawn David Louth. She leaves behind her daughter Mrs. Cynthia L. Louth, son David E.Smith, six grandchildren, three great grandchildren. Mrs. Smith was the granddaughter of John Henry Prater and great granddaughter of Clara Lucinda Elkins Prater of Cannon Co. Tn. Services for this loving woman will be privite. If tears could build a stairway, and menories were a lane. I would walk right up to heaven and bring you home again. No farewell words were spoken no time to say goodbye your were gone before I knew it and only God knows why. My heart still aches in sadness and secret tears still flow, what it means to lose you, no one will ever know. ( author unknown)

Hope someone can answer the question which Gallant Estes was this?

Does anyone have any information on Frances Hunter Estes? She was born to William Hunter and Catherine Vivian (not sure of the name) after 1857 when her older sister was born. I am not sure when she died but she is buried in Columbia, Louisiana. She married Ed Estess and had three sons, I believe.

rhioreh wrote: > > I have a Paralee ESTES b. Jun 30, 1842 and d. Feb 24, 1843. She was > the daughter of Charlotte Elkins and John Moses ESTES of Cannon Co., > TN and the sister of my GG Grandfather Benjamin Mason ESTES of > Woodbury, Cannon Co., TN. No other Paralee's in my data base. No, this isn't the same one. The Paralee that <UchuuJin@aol.com> asked about was born c.1820 and married Ed Elkins c.1838, before the one above was born. The c.1820 Paralee isn't an aunt of the other one (all of John M. kids are known, AFAIK). I suspect she may be a daughter of Edward Estes, half brother of the John M. Estes that you mentioned. But I have no evidence for this, just a hunch. cheers, David. -- The universe is not only queerer that we imagine, it is queerer than we *can* imagine - J. B. S. Haldane DC2.D A+++! L^ Pfwl Bfl Fo R+++! Ac+ J-- S++ Fr+++! I+ H++ $ M V+++ Cag http://xenon.triode.net.au/~dragon mailto:dragon@triode.net.au

To the person asking about Paralee ESTES. I forgot to tell you to go to the following page and view Cindy Louth's submission on the ELKINS family. There are a couple of Paralees in there. Use the "find" function in your browser. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rhio/ElkinsPg.htm Again, good luck. Rhio

I have a Paralee ESTES b. Jun 30, 1842 and d. Feb 24, 1843. She was the daughter of Charlotte Elkins and John Moses ESTES of Cannon Co., TN and the sister of my GG Grandfather Benjamin Mason ESTES of Woodbury, Cannon Co., TN. No other Paralee's in my data base. This information was given to me by J. W. ESTES in OK. You can see her siblings at the following web site, third generation. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rhio/EstesPg.htm Good luck, Rhio

I'm looking for information on the ancestry of Paralee Estes b. abt. 1820 in TN and d. abt. 1887 in Cannon Co., TN. She married Edmund Silas Elkins in Warren or Cannon Co., TN. and had at least 11 children, Leroy Lafayette, Eliza Jane, Charlotte, Mary Catherine, Margaret, Lucy Ann, Benjamin Franklin, Murphy Gabriel, John Newton, Silas Walker "Tootie", Clara Lucinda. Thank you in advance :)

Does anyone have any information on Frances Hunter Estes who lived in Columbia, Louisiana? Would appreciate hearing from you. Peggy

Quoting Colleen Kitch <GuyCol@webtv.net>: > unknown ESTES b. 1802 married ANNA RICHARDSON b. 1802 Madison Co., Ky. A list of children, where the family ended up etc would be helpful! The above isn't much to go by. Also .. are the "b.1802" exact dates or estimates .. based on a census entry or even guesses? D'ya know where the marriage happened .. any additional information would help. cheers, David.

unknown ESTES b. 1802 married ANNA RICHARDSON b. 1802 Madison Co., Ky. Colleen Kitch GuyCol@webtv.net

Hello my Estes cousins, I seem to have hit a brick wall in my search for family. A missing link. I have what I feel is a fairly accurate list of my ansestors until I get to my great grand father John and his wife Martha. I cannot find who his father was. They lived and died in Casey Co. KY and are buried in the Wall family cemetery there. John was born 5/22/1862 & died 7/8/1936. Martha was born 8/1/1862 & died 9/12/1936. They were married 3/19/18_ _. Six children out of 10 lived to adulthood. Fred, Sallie (Adams), Lila (Todd), Monroe, *Edward, James. If anyone has any information on John and/or Martha, I would be EXCITED to receive this information. Many thanks to all who can help. Marcia (Estes) Byrket cmb@knightstown.net

Quoting Glenda Estes <scbuckeye@earthlink.net>: > May I add my "two cents" to the Charles Estes book. I have found > many errors in this book so folks really need to try to document > anything they find in his book before taking it as a sure lead. This is > especially true in the southern clan of Estes. I don't know how he did > on the northern group. Happy hunting, Glenda Estes Yes, Charles did make a number of mistakes with the Southern Estes. But several things mitigate those mistakes .. his primary aim was the northern line, the material he has on Abe's bunch was really just an appendix and so less attention was paid to accuracy. ALso a lot of the southern line stuff was information he'd gotten from Estes living in the south rather than research of his own .. and that means it was only as good as what he was sent. The nothern line material was quite well researched and while there are a few mistakes, they are only minor ones. The book is, after all, really about the descendents of Matthew and Richard, that is, the northern line. Still .. the moral of the story is that you should never trust collated material 100% but confirm it yourself where possible. Hence the caveat at the start of my Estes files! cheers, David.

You might contact "Angelina Bittues" <abit2s@mint.net>. She has been selling one copy after another of a spiral-bound photocopy of this book on Ebay for the past month. It's described as 212 photocopied pages with two original pages copied onto one. She must have a stock of them. Bill Davis wmadavis@kih.net ******************************************************************** * * * Fax (978)334-7850 * P.O. Box 337 * Ghent * KY * 41045 * * * ******************************************************************** http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=wmadavis ********************************************************************

For those who asked about getting copies of the book .. "Estes Genealogies: 1097-1893", by Charles Estes, published by Eben Putnam, Salem, NA, 1894. Reproductions available from Higginson Book Co., PO Box 778, Salem, MA, 01970. Phone: 508-745-7170. Their web site is: http://www.higginsonbooks.com/ Relevant books; ESTES Genealogy, 1097-1893, by C. Estes. 417p. 1894. $53.00 CARY - ESTES Genealogy, by May F. Webb & Patrick M. Estes. 242p. 1939. $37.00 ESTY. Isaac Esty of Topsfield & some of his desc. (Repr. Essex Inst. Hist. Coll.) by G. E. Bangs. 12p. 1900. $4.50. [Not Estes!!!] SNOW - ESTES Ancestry, by N.E. Snow & M. Jillson. 1939. To order go to: http://www.higginsonbooks.com/order.htm And enter in the relevant information from above. BTW .. the above is all current, I got it off the site as I typed this email. cheers, David. -- The universe is not only queerer that we imagine, it is queerer than we *can* imagine - J. B. S. Haldane DC2.D A+++! L^ Pfwl Bfl Fo R+++! Ac+ J-- S++ Fr+++! I+ H++ $ M V+++ Cag http://xenon.triode.net.au/~dragon mailto:dragon@triode.net.au

G'day folks, Just a tidbit on the above .. According to Lower Norfolk Wills, etc: Thorowgood Keeling made his will on 31 March 1679, Will was probated on 15 August 1679. cheers, David -- The universe is not only queerer that we imagine, it is queerer than we *can* imagine - J. B. S. Haldane DC2.D A+++! L^ Pfwl Bfl Fo R+++! Ac+ J-- S++ Fr+++! I+ H++ $ M V+++ Cag http://xenon.triode.net.au/~dragon mailto:dragon@triode.net.au

David, May I add my "two cents" to the Charles Estes book. I have found many errors in this book so folks really need to try to document anything they find in his book before taking it as a sure lead. This is especially true in the southern clan of Estes. I don't know how he did on the northern group. Happy hunting, Glenda Estes

I, too, am interested in the above titled book "Estes Genealogies" and would like to know where to find it. Ester Eads

Quoting ARIK ESTUS <arik48@hotmail.com>: > Hi there Folks, > If as David says there is so much speculation about Abes side of the family. > What about Robert and Mathews decendants? Any degree of speculation there? G'day Arik, In the case of Matthew and Robert, their arrival in the american colonies has been well documented. See Charles Estes book "Estes Genealogies" for details on their arrival. I'm at work so I can't look it up myself. cheers, David.

hi all, does anyone know where i can find a copy of Charles Estes book "Estes Genealogies". i'm interested in Robert and Mathews decendants. thank you errald __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

Grandmasallie48@aol.com wrote: > > Is there a record of Abrahams children and grandchildren? I'm trying to > find the parents of my William from Virginia....Sallie There's no complete list of his children in any one document. Lists have been compiled. Arguably the standard would be Niel Gunson's article on early american Estes. I can dig up a copy for you and email it if you like .. but wont post it here (and no-one else do it either) - it's copyright. The will of Barbara Estes (1720, proven 1769) names most but not all teh children. Even then, at least one of Abraham's supposed sons, Samuel, is now being questioned as to whether he ever existed. As for grandchildren .. again, no documented list (ie: a will, deed etc). There are numerous compilations floating around. Some have been printed in Estes Trails, other's are on the www. All lists of Abe's grandkids share one thing in common .. a degree of speculation. cheers, David. -- The universe is not only queerer that we imagine, it is queerer than we *can* imagine - J. B. S. Haldane DC2.D A+++! L^ Pfwl Bfl Fo R+++! Ac+ J-- S++ Fr+++! I+ H++ $ M V+++ Cag http://xenon.triode.net.au/~dragon mailto:dragon@triode.net.au