I am searching for information on the parents and brothers and sisters, of James Butler ESTES, b.Oct. 8, 1872 in Ark., and d. June 5, 1930 in Maricopa Co., Az. his parents were William J.ESTES, b. abt.1830-1835, in Mo., and Susan Francis BOLES, b. in Ark., about 1834-35. Their children , besides James B. were Mary; Lodusky Jane,m. David WELCH; Arthur; Tim, m. Maude; and Ida who m. James GUILDER, in Kinney Co., Tx.. William J. d. about 1889 in Kinney Co., Tx. area, Susan F. d. 1929 in (Del Rio), Texas. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Alice Lawler ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/

Looking for anyone who has information on William ESTES, son of John Moses and Charlotte [ELKINS] ESTES. Seeking information on his 3 wives: Julia COVINGTON, Iva/Iva PRITCHARD, Josephine LUFLAND/LOFLAND. Thank you, Rhio

--WebTV-Mail-12843-1532 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit --WebTV-Mail-12843-1532 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-103-2.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.103) by storefull-261.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 07:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mailsorter-103-2.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id AF4B45E; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 07:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: luxci@webtv.com Received: from storefull-267.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-267.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.199.136]) by mailsorter-103-2.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD5F2E for <Luxci@webtv.com>; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 07:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-267.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-e/mt.gso.26Feb98) id HAA15638; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 07:45:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Luxci@webtv.net X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAj8AyIdVQf7xWa9dIoUZkbyCn5JcCFGd3sTzCH0gapv+G2GAVmQQdE0Fc Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:45:30 -0500 (CDT) To: jmcabee@prodigy.net (Jackie McAbee), Luxci@webtv.com Subject: Re: Wilsons Message-ID: <4205-3953780A-5810@storefull-267.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "Jackie McAbee" <jmcabee@prodigy.net>'s message of Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:50:03 -0400 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) My lineage.......... John Newman, of London and unknown wife had a son, Thomas Newman, who married Elizabeth Burdett, daughter of Henry Burdett and unknown wife. Thomas and Elizabeth Burdett Newman had a son, Thomas Newman, who married Bridgett Wilson, daughter of Elias and Susannah Jacobus Wilson. I do not know the parents of Elias Wilson. The parents of Susannah Jacobus were Angell Jacobus and Elzabeth Clark. Thomas and Bridgett Wilson Newman had a son, Thomas Newman who married Elizabeth Muse, daughter of Thomas Muse and Ann ?. The parents of Thomas Muse and Ann ? are unknown. Thomas and Elizabeth Muse Newman had a son, George Newman, who married Frances Dye, daughter of Avery and Catherine McMillan Dye. The parents of Avery Dye were Arthur and Katherine Hopkins Dye. The parents of Catherine McMillan were John and Frances Newman McMillan. The parents of Arthur Dye were Martin and Margaret Sisson Dye. The parents of Katherine Hopkins were Robert and Katherine ? Hopkins. The parents of John McMillan are unknown. The parents of Frances

In a message dated 6/22/2000 5:22:13 PM Central Daylight Time, leon1946@telepath.com writes: > Thank you for sharing your opinion about this merger. I have a cousin > who specifically stated he did not want anything he researched ever > given to the "Church of the LDS" (the Mormons). Of course, that is his > opinion. I am not a member of that church, and do consider myself a > Christian. I do not quite understand how their interest in Genealogy > ties into their beliefs. But, I think we do need to wait a while to see > how things shake out. > I was browsing the "FamilyHistory.com" site today on the Estes Forum, > and found the time to load a page tedious. Sounds like they need to > upgrade their '''whatever''' to make it load better. The "GenForum" > loaded to my browser much quicker. > Just do what you are doing well, and if you chose to make a change, > just let us know. Hi Leon: Thanks for the back up. However, I think there may have been some mix up in what is taking place. 1. The LDS chuch has absolutely nothing to do with this. Ancestry is not and has never been a part of the church program. While some of the owners of Ancestry may be LDS, some probably are not. Ancestry was started by a group of business men and genealogist in Utah. And not everyone that lives in Utah are LDS <smile>.. which is where the misunderstanding probably came in. Just remember: Ancestry does NOT equal the LDS Church. 2. The LDS Church site is at www.familysearch.org. It is free to the public and is supported entirely by tithing and donations of the LDS Church members. Even the software program that is used by the Church members (Personal Ancestral File) is free for downloading at that site. The PAF program works a lot like Legacy. 3. Anyone that wants to know more about the LDS beliefs can go to their official web site at www.lds.com. They can even order a free Book of Mormon at that site. Where the Bible is a history of God's people in Europe, the BOM is a history of God's people in America. Great reading, even if you are not LDS. 4. Rootsweb was started for the free use of genealogist and was maintained by donations. I personally donated cash each year and paid for a web site for my business. I recieved a trial subscription to Ancestry which I had never used before. Some of the Ancestry has free databases anyone can use. Rootsweb sites will remain free and from my understanding from the private letter I recieved, their will be no noticeable changes. Hope this clears up things a bit. Annette

I got this from one of the other lists I belong to. I thought it might fit in with our research of our families and their history and because of the Fourth of July rapidly approaching. I know that this isn't exactly specific to genealogy, but thought all might find it interesting. WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM? Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence? Five signers were captured by the British as traitors and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army, another had two sons captured. Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War. They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. What kind of men were they? Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured. Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags. Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward. Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton. At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt. Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months. John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year, he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later, he died from exhaustion and a broken heart. Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates. Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing talk straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of the divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor." They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history books never told you a lot about what happened in the Revolutionary War. We didn't fight just the British. We were British subjects at that time and we fought our own government! Some of us take these liberties so much for granted, but we shouldn't. So, take a few minutes while enjoying your 4th of July Holiday and silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they paid. Remember: Freedom is never free! I hope you will show your support by please sending this to as many people as you can. It's time we get the word out that patriotism is NOT a sin, and the Fourth of July has more to it than beer, picnics, and baseball games.

Charles Yates wrote: > > Why do you say that Wake County, NC did not exist in 1800? I have a > will filed by my ggg grandfather about that time. Sorry .. my mind must've been elsewhere. Wake Co, NC was formed 1771. Silly me! David. -- A stranger in a world I never made - Housman DC2.D A+++! L^ Pfwl Bfl Fo R+++! Ac+ J-- S++ Fr+++! I+ H++ $ M V+++ Cag http://xenon.triode.net.au/~dragon mailto:dragon@triode.net.au

M. Estes ---29th Texas Cavalry Co. G T.H. Estes--- 2nt. LT. 34th Texas Cavalry Co. C from Texas Confederate Soldiers 1861 to 1865 Unit Roster Vol. 11 by Janet Hewitt

Rootsweb and Ancestry have merged; you can read about the particulars at these links: http://www.ancestry.com/home/celebrate/rootsrelease.htm and http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/merge.html If you have further questions about what this means, please keep them OFF THE LIST; instead, go to the help desk and ask: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi OR, you can e-mail me privately at acwomack@aol.com. As your list admin, I am adopting a "wait and see" attitude about how this may affect our list; I tend to believe the assurances given in the above releases, and don't see a need to panic until they are proven to be false. Again, please keep any questions related to this change off list; if you feel hesitant about writing the help desk, e-mail me privately and I will do my best to answer, or find out the answer. Annette Womack listowner ASC LaGenWeb/CC/FM

G'day folks, I got a query today from someone looking for a Jackson Estes, born c.1820, probably in Wake Co, NC (which at the time would've been granville Co since Wake Co didn't exist back then). Jackson married unknown and had a daughter, Mary A. (1844-1926), who married James Lillard, then David Hicks of Blytheville, AR. Mary may have married Mr Vancleve before James Lillard. Mary also had a near relative named Buck Estes, who lived in the KY, AR, TN area and married Eliza Orange. "Buck", so I gather, is a nick-name for William. Most of the Jackson Estes I have from Granville Co, NC were "William jackson Estes". A lot of this family did end up in AR. BUT I dont have a Jackson (William Jackson or not) of this vintage. Anyone else? Cheers, David. PS: Welcome back Annette! -- A stranger in a world I never made - Housman DC2.D A+++! L^ Pfwl Bfl Fo R+++! Ac+ J-- S++ Fr+++! I+ H++ $ M V+++ Cag http://xenon.triode.net.au/~dragon mailto:dragon@triode.net.au

Hi Bebe Roper Byerly and everyone else, I have a Lucy Emily ESTES who married Isaac Aaron OWENS. She was born in Pennsylvania per census records. Isaac received land from the Bureau of Land Management in DeKalb County in 1848. Lucy and Isaac had a son Amos Dow OWENS born 1864 in Sycamore, IL. Later at least the younger generation, possibly the older as well, moved to Minnesota and from there to Oregon. Have you run across this Lucy among your family? I am looking for her siblings and parents. Jacqui

Need help! Have been searching for anything on a PARALEE ESTES born abt. 1815 in N.C. know she married Edmond Silas Elkins in either Warren or Cannon Co. Tn. Have her children but don't know much about her and her parents and sibs. Anyone have anything on this line of Estes. Will exchange all info I have to date. Many Thanks, Cindy ( Cynlouth@aol.com)

Hi, List! Thanks to the wonderful David P., I have found my grandmother, Ada Estes, daughter of Charles R. Estes. I was just wondering if there was any available info on her brothers and sisters. I have a tad of info on these folks, but very little. For example, Andrew Jackson Estes was born in 1860 in DeKalb Co., AL. He was married to Lucy N. E. Ward 1/29/1883 in Lee Co., MS. The children of Charles Regan Estes and Martha A. Bullard are: Nancy Elizabeth Estes, b. bet. 1855 - 1858, DeKalb Co., AL; Andrew Jackson Estes; Ada Estes, b. 1/4/1867, Lee Co., MS, d. 8/1/1923; Byron Estes, b. 1870, Lee Co., MS; John T. Estes, b. 1873, AL/MS; Bernie (?) Regan Estes, b. 1875; Mattie Estes, b. 1877. Please feel free to email me if you have any additional info about any of these folks. Thanks in advance! Bebe Roper Byerly Smooth MSBabe@aol.com

Looking for information on a Caty Estes and Willie Estes siblings to Elisha Estes 1792, Frances Estes 1790, Edmunds Estes and .... They would have been born in the 1790's or 1800's and probably were born in Charlottesville, Orange County (now Greene) VA. Parents were Elisha ESTES and Elizabeth Golding

G'day Ron, > Regarding Joel Estes, who discovered Estes Park, Colorado..... > from which line was he descended? : Abraham ESTES (1647-1720) of Nonington, Kent Co, England; to King & Queen Co, VA, 1683; d.King & Queen Co, VA : +Barbara BROCK (1662/1667-1720[will]) of King & Queen Co, VA; 1684; d.Amelia Co, VA : . Elisha ESTES (1703-1782) of King + Queen Co, VA; d.Henry Co, VA : . +Mary Ann MUMFORD? (1702?-1790), K&Q Co, VA; c.1726, K&Q Co, VA; Franklin Co, VA 1786; d.Franklin Co, VA : . . Joel ESTES (1741-1825) of Henry Co, VA; Henry Co, VA 1779; Franklin Co, VA 1786-1807; d.Clay Co, MO : . . +(Nancy) Ann HARRIS (1745-1818), Goochland Co, VA; d.Clay Co, MO; 1770, Goochland Co, VA : . . . Peter Harris ESTES (1774-1854) of Goochland Co, VA; d.Andrew Co, MO : . . . +Esther Ann HIATT/HYATT (1781/3-1852) of NC; d.Clay Co, MO; 1801, Madison Co, KY : . . . . Joel ESTES (1806-1875) of Madison Co, KY; Colonel, CSA; d.San Juan Co, NM (of Estes Park, CO fame) cheers, David. -- A stranger in a world I never made - Housman DC2.D A+++! L^ Pfwl Bfl Fo R+++! Ac+ J-- S++ Fr+++! I+ H++ $ M V+++ Cag http://xenon.triode.net.au/~dragon mailto:dragon@triode.net.au

I have been searching for a connection to my Estes line for some time but failed to find any connection with the lines maintained by David. But then I began searching the Abraham line and started seeing lots of Estes in Meriwether Cty., GA and knew there just had to be a connection. My ggrandfather, Lewis Allen Edwards married Mary Anne Estes, in Meriwehter Cty., GA. They lived there and died there. And the strangest thing of all is that I was born there, grew up in the very same town of Gay, GA which is in Meriwether Cty., but never knew about either of them. It was only after I got seriously interested in genealogy that I began looking for the Edwards family. This led to the surprising marriage to an Estes. The town of Gay was full of Estes in the forties and fifties, and still has a good many. But I never dreamed I was a cousin. After I found the connection I began to explore for their graves. They were not buried in the Gay Community cemetery, where many of the Estes are buried, but I found they were buried in a small private cemetery, probably on land owned by Lewis Edwards, although it could have been owned by James Estes. I have not checked the record to confirm ownership, since the location was the most important thing. About two months ago I made another trip to Gay, GA intent on locating this cemetery. I had a general location, but not specific enough to make the search easy. When I got to Gay I began asking some of the locals if they knew about a cemetery which was supposed to be located close to the old Gay Community Center. I was in luck when one ot the men said there was a cemetery in the woods, but it was owned by another fellow in town. Turns out he had moved to Gay within the last few years and bought a house in town. So I headed for his house and found him in the back yard. When I asked him if he knew of the cemetery, he said there was one on the property and he would take me to it (good ole Southern hospitality). The land was heavily wooded, but he had cut a dirt road through the woods about 1/2 mile, right to the edge of the cemetery. His interest was not the cemetery, but storage for material he was using in his roofing business. He took me right to the cemetery and told me he had looked ad the markings on the graves several times. Most were clear enough to read. And there were the graves of Lewis Edwards and Mary Anne Estes Edwards. The man had been so nice. When I was ready to leave he told me to come back at any time, although he bought the property he did not own the cemetery. I suppose that is Georgia law but it may be universal. Now looking at the Abraham genealogy there is a James W. Estes m. Mary E. O'Neal. I am pretty sure that the parents of this Mary O'Neal are also buried in this cemetery. Need to do some more checking to confirm that, but there are O'Neals there. The son of James, William Nathaniel Estes m. Blanch Thrush should be Thrash. There were lots of Thrash folks around, but I know of none spelled Thrush. This Nathaniel was well known in the town of Gay and his son Royce was a big farmer in town. He hired me every summer to help pack peaches in baskets, put them into a railroad refrigerator car, and send them north to the big cities. I will be going back to Gay in the near future and will look up some of the dates on the graves so that David can add this info to what he already has. Thanks to all for making the data available to me. Cecil Alford

Regarding Joel Estes, who discovered Estes Park, Colorado..... from which line was he descended? Ron Estes

I saw the June 4 posting to the list where David mentioned there were a lot of Wylies in Chester County, SC. Also he mentioned a Robert Estes of Union County, SC married Cecilia Hyatt and had a son Wylie. So, I'm desperate. I have a gggg grandmother named Rhoda Estes b. 1745-1778, d. Aft. 1810 who married a Henry Barnes. They had a daughter named Celia Barnes b. 11-29-1791 in NC and who married David Pinkerton in Davidson County, TN. They named one of their sons Wiley (or Wylie) Estes Pinkerton. Wylie named a son Revel Estes Pinkerton. Revel's daughter Lucy named my dad Charles Estes Krudwig. I'm trying to discover parentage of Rhoda and at this time only know to look at location and similar names. I want to know where we came from! Does anyone know my Rhoda Estes family? There is one listed on the rootsweb page as having married a Reuben Fletcher, but I don't think she's mine. Any and all help appreciated. Thanks, Ester Krudwig Eads ekeads@ipa.net I am looking for Rhoda Estes parents

G'day Bill, > I have been informed that the surname that I'm looking so hard for > information on, may have been a variant spelling of ESTES. I am > trying to find more on the ancestry of Mary Delila ESTRIDGE Yes, Estridge is a well known variant of Estes. > Mary Delila ESTRIDGE [1855-1938] of Lancaster County, SC. She was a > daughter of Thomas Wylie ESTRIDGE [no known bio] and his wife Mary > BLACKMON [1829-1924]. I dont have anything definite on this, but I do have a family in Chester Co, SC in which there were lots of Wylie's and that family did have a connection with Lancaster Co., SC. Robert ESTES (1782-1845) of Chester Co, SC; d.Union Co, SC, married Cecilia HYATT and had a son, Wylie (1840). They also had a son, Thomas, born sometime around 1820. I dont have a date for him, but he could be your Thomas Wylie. Robert was the son of Wylie Estes. One of RObert's brothers went to Fairfield Co, SC (William), another went to TN (John) and a third (Thomas) remained in Chester Co. None of these had a Thomas who could've been yours. There was a 4th brother, Wiley or Westley (both variations appear in the court records). He remained in Union/Chester Co, SC area, but I have no family for him. It's possible he did not marry sicne this area has been well researched and there's no sign of any children. I would guess Thomas, son of Robert, is your Thomas Wylie, tho' the proof isn't conclusive. I have no further information on this Thomas so hopefully the above will help jog someone's memory. Cheers, David. -- A stranger in a world I never made - Housman DC2.D A+++! L^ Pfwl Bfl Fo R+++! Ac+ J-- S++ Fr+++! I+ H++ $ M V+++ Cag http://xenon.triode.net.au/~dragon mailto:dragon@triode.net.au

I have been trying for quite some time now to make a breakthru on one of my maternal line families. I have been informed that the surname that I'm looking so hard for information on, may have been a variant spelling of ESTES. I am trying to find more on the ancestry of Mary Delila ESTRIDGE [1855-1938] of Lancaster County, SC. She was a daughter of Thomas Wylie ESTRIDGE [no known bio] and his wife Mary BLACKMON [1829-1924]. Should anyone recognize any of this, I would sure like to hear from you. Mary Delila ESTRIDGE, by the way, married William Joseph BAKER of the Flat Creek area of Lancaster County. Bill Hughes kinseeker4@earthlink.net

Looking for information on one Marcus Estes, b. 1 Aug 1855 Michigan d. 17 Oct 1917 Portland, Oregon, buried Twin Falls, Id. Married 1 Mar 1878 Jane (Marie) Walton b. 18 Jun 1855 Slippery Rock, Lawrence, PA d. 31 Dec 1936 Twin Falls, ID. Any information greatly appreciated. Li Ann Lee