Linda Stansell wrote: > > Glad you heard from Jo Ann. She is very upset about the scam which > ripped her off after she recommended it to the Garlington list. Stay > on guard. The moral of the story .. unless you can get independent verification of the value of a publication from some unknown author/company .. assume it's prolly a hoax. It pays to be paranoid. David -- A stranger in a world I never made - Housman DC2.D A+++! L^ Pfwl Bfl Fo R+++! Ac+ J-- S++ Fr+++! I+ H++ $ M V+++ Cag http://xenon.triode.net.au/~dragon mailto:dragon@triode.net.au
Herb Scott wrote: > > Looking for information on the parents/relationship between: > Name: Marshal Estis > Written: 28 August 1810 > Probated: October 1810 > Wife: Martha Estes Marshall Estes, born 1755, Caroline Co, VA. Died 1810, Barren Co, KY. Married Martha Yates, 1781, probably in Culpepper CO, VA. Martha died after 1834. Marshall was the son of John Estes and Mary Marshall. John was born 1725, Caroline or Spotsylvania Co, VA and died 1778, Caroline Co, VA. Married Mary 1746, Caroline Co, VA. Mary was born 1726, Westmoreland CO, VA and died 1772, Caroline Co, VA. John was the son of Thomas Estes and Ann Rodgers/Rogers. Thomas was born 1688, King and Queen Co, VA and died 1744/1745 (early in the year, hence the split date), Caroline Co, VA. Married Ann, 1717, Caroline C, VA. Ann was born 1687 and died 1745. Thomas was the son of Abraham Estes and Barbara Brock. Abraham was born 1647, Nonington, county Kent, England, son of Sylvester Eastes and Ellen Martin, of Co Kent, England. barbara was his second wife. he emigrated to Virginia 1684 after the death of his first wife. Sylvester's ancestry can be traced back to Nicholas Ewstase, born around 1495, possibly in Deal, Co Kent, England. > Daughter: Patsy Estis -one of youngest children Patsy is a nick-name for Martha. > Daughter: Fanny Estis - one of youngest children > Daughter: Luci Estis > Daughter: Nancy Bragg > Daughter: Polly Estis A nick-name for Mary. > Descendants of James Estes > 1 James Estes b: May 10, 1816 in Adair, Barren, or Metcalfe County > d: November 12, 1898 in Barren County, Ky. James' father is listed as John {scribble} Estes on James' marriage certificate. The {scribble} is not decipherable. The most obvious candidate, given who was living in the area at the time and John Estes known to have had and used a middle name, is John Coleman Estes, son of Marshall Estes and Martha Yates (above). The link is, however, not proven. Details above (and references for same) are from my web site. cheers, David. -- A stranger in a world I never made - Housman DC2.D A+++! L^ Pfwl Bfl Fo R+++! Ac+ J-- S++ Fr+++! I+ H++ $ M V+++ Cag http://xenon.triode.net.au/~dragon mailto:dragon@triode.net.au
Glad you heard from Jo Ann. She is very upset about the scam which ripped her off after she recommended it to the Garlington list. Stay on guard. Linda McCain Stansell >From: LEastes2@aol.com >To: ESTES-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ESTES-L] Book Warning! >Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 12:16:49 EDT > >Him Everyone - > > On 8/25/00 I sent out the following message to this mail list and I wish >to >advise everyone of the results. > >Subj: The Year 2001 Eastes Book >Date: 8/25/00 1:57:29 PM Central Daylight Time >From: <A HREF="mailto:LEastes2">LEastes2</A> >To: <A HREF="mailto:ESTES-L@rootsweb.com">ESTES-L@rootsweb.com</A> > >Hi Everyone - > > I just received a letter from a first cousin asking about a book that I >have >not heard about. I hope someone can shed some light on the matter The word >I >got was: > > "The Year 2001 Eastes Family Yearbook" from a Maxwell & Christine Eastes, >n.d.p. The price is $39.95 and you get a free CD Rom with Eastes facts on >it. >The publisher is Morphcorp LLC dba, The Eastes Family News, Denver, CO. > >Has anyone seen this book? Does anyone have any knowledge of this book? > > Please reply direct to me. > >Best Regards > > Roy Eastes Roy@eastes.com > > > > >In a message dated 8/28/00 10:49:00 AM Central Daylight Time, CHIEFJORET >writes: > ><< Subj: Family Book > Date: 8/28/00 10:49:00 AM Central Daylight Time > From: <A HREF="mailto:CHIEFJORET">CHIEFJORET</A> > To: <A HREF="mailto:LEastes2">LEastes2</A> > > Hello Roy: > > The so-called Eastes Yearbook is a scam. Save your money or donate it >to >your favorite charity. > > I am in the process of preparing a letter to National Genealogical >Society. The organization was successful in running similar con publishers >from other states. I hope NGS will sink its teeth into Maxwell and >Christina >whoever they are. > > I bought a book described as the Garlington Yearbook. It was nothing >but >an out-of-date phone book and not a very good one at that. Much of the >information in the book, which can be found free on the Internet, came from >the Social Security Death Index. There were many obvious errors, typos and >grammar errors. People I know to be long dead are listed among the living >along with their phone numbers. The author also produced a poorly written >and >insulting boilerplate history of mankind dating back to the days of the >cave >man. The author inserted your surname to make it appear that your ancestors >were right there, smelly and hairy and climbing trees. It is garbage. There >is also a joke section. He inserts your name into the jokes that have been >circulating on the Internet for many months, maybe years. The jokes were >not >all that funny on the Internet and here, with your name or the name of a >relative inserted as the brunt of the joke, they are painful and hateful. > > The companion CD is nothing but a repeat of the book but not >formatted. >It is also garbage. > > Guess you get the point by now that I do not like the so-called book. >That is a mild statement. I have returned my copy and asked for a refund. >That was several weeks ago. I haven't seen a refund yet. > > I would appreciate your help. I would like you to mail me the flier >you >received (or a copy). I will include it in my mailing to NGS. It proves the >point that this is another scam and Maxwell Eastes and Maxwell Garlington >and >Maxwell McBrewster are one and the same -- pseudonyms for the same crook. >Please send it to me at the address below. Also, please write a Buyer's >Beware and post it on your Eastes mailing list. It might save others from >the experience I had. You may copy and send this letter to anyone you wish. >You can also check out my warning which I posted on the Garlington >GenForum. > > Good luck, > Jo Ann Garlington > 2560 Maple Ave. > Concord, CA 94520 >> > > >Best Regards > >Roy > ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< END >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >When we record our heritage we take great pride in looking at our list of >ancestors and admire their origins, migrations and accomplishments. But, >what good is it - unless it’s true? > >We need stories and rumors, they are great and often lead to the truth! >BUT - Help eliminate errors. Don't take anything as Fact! Check references >for validity! If we don’t our children’s children will be led down >false >trails and they will never be able to find their true heritage. > > > >Best Regards > >Roy > ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< END >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >When we record our heritage we take great pride in looking at our list of >ancestors and admire their origins, migrations and accomplishments. But, >what good is it - unless it’s true? > >We need stories and rumors, they are great and often lead to the truth! >BUT - Help eliminate errors. Don't take anything as Fact! Check references >for validity! If we don’t our children’s children will be led down >false >trails and they will never be able to find their true heritage. > > >==== ESTES Mailing List ==== >Flame messages are NOT allowed on this mailing list. 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Him Everyone - On 8/25/00 I sent out the following message to this mail list and I wish to advise everyone of the results. Subj: The Year 2001 Eastes Book Date: 8/25/00 1:57:29 PM Central Daylight Time From: <A HREF="mailto:LEastes2">LEastes2</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:ESTES-L@rootsweb.com">ESTES-L@rootsweb.com</A> Hi Everyone - I just received a letter from a first cousin asking about a book that I have not heard about. I hope someone can shed some light on the matter The word I got was: "The Year 2001 Eastes Family Yearbook" from a Maxwell & Christine Eastes, n.d.p. The price is $39.95 and you get a free CD Rom with Eastes facts on it. The publisher is Morphcorp LLC dba, The Eastes Family News, Denver, CO. Has anyone seen this book? Does anyone have any knowledge of this book? Please reply direct to me. Best Regards Roy Eastes Roy@eastes.com In a message dated 8/28/00 10:49:00 AM Central Daylight Time, CHIEFJORET writes: << Subj: Family Book Date: 8/28/00 10:49:00 AM Central Daylight Time From: <A HREF="mailto:CHIEFJORET">CHIEFJORET</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:LEastes2">LEastes2</A> Hello Roy: The so-called Eastes Yearbook is a scam. Save your money or donate it to your favorite charity. I am in the process of preparing a letter to National Genealogical Society. The organization was successful in running similar con publishers from other states. I hope NGS will sink its teeth into Maxwell and Christina whoever they are. I bought a book described as the Garlington Yearbook. It was nothing but an out-of-date phone book and not a very good one at that. Much of the information in the book, which can be found free on the Internet, came from the Social Security Death Index. There were many obvious errors, typos and grammar errors. People I know to be long dead are listed among the living along with their phone numbers. The author also produced a poorly written and insulting boilerplate history of mankind dating back to the days of the cave man. The author inserted your surname to make it appear that your ancestors were right there, smelly and hairy and climbing trees. It is garbage. There is also a joke section. He inserts your name into the jokes that have been circulating on the Internet for many months, maybe years. The jokes were not all that funny on the Internet and here, with your name or the name of a relative inserted as the brunt of the joke, they are painful and hateful. The companion CD is nothing but a repeat of the book but not formatted. It is also garbage. Guess you get the point by now that I do not like the so-called book. That is a mild statement. I have returned my copy and asked for a refund. That was several weeks ago. I haven't seen a refund yet. I would appreciate your help. I would like you to mail me the flier you received (or a copy). I will include it in my mailing to NGS. It proves the point that this is another scam and Maxwell Eastes and Maxwell Garlington and Maxwell McBrewster are one and the same -- pseudonyms for the same crook. Please send it to me at the address below. Also, please write a Buyer's Beware and post it on your Eastes mailing list. It might save others from the experience I had. You may copy and send this letter to anyone you wish. You can also check out my warning which I posted on the Garlington GenForum. Good luck, Jo Ann Garlington 2560 Maple Ave. Concord, CA 94520 >> Best Regards Roy <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< END >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we record our heritage we take great pride in looking at our list of ancestors and admire their origins, migrations and accomplishments. But, what good is it - unless it’s true? We need stories and rumors, they are great and often lead to the truth! BUT - Help eliminate errors. Don't take anything as Fact! Check references for validity! If we don’t our children’s children will be led down false trails and they will never be able to find their true heritage. Best Regards Roy <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< END >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we record our heritage we take great pride in looking at our list of ancestors and admire their origins, migrations and accomplishments. But, what good is it - unless it’s true? We need stories and rumors, they are great and often lead to the truth! BUT - Help eliminate errors. Don't take anything as Fact! Check references for validity! If we don’t our children’s children will be led down false trails and they will never be able to find their true heritage.
Looking for information on the parents/relationship between: Name: Marshal Estis Written: 28 August 1810 Probated: October 1810 Wife: Martha Estes Daughter: Patsy Estis -one of youngest children Daughter: Fanny Estis - one of youngest children Daughter: Luci Estis Daughter: Nancy Bragg Daughter: Polly Estis Son: George Estis Son: William Estis Son: John Estis Slaves: Bob, Jack Executors: Friend, Edmund Rogers; Peter Estes, Robert Todd Executrix: Martha Estes Witnesses: Robert Todd, James Crawford, Betsey Crawford, Thomas Shirley. Source: Barren Co., Ky., Will Book A, p. 166 ---------------------------------------------- Descendants of James Estes 1 James Estes b: May 10, 1816 in Adair, Barren, or Metcalfe County d: November 12, 1898 in Barren County, Ky. . +Mary 'Polly' Doyel b: March 06, 1818 in Ky. m: November 05, 1842 in Edmonson Co. d: September 08, 1883 in Ky. 2 Sarah E. Estes b: September 10, 1843 2 John Y. Estes b: 1846 2 Richard Coleman "R C" Estes b: May 04, 1848 in Ky. d: March 01, 1923 in Ky. .... +Mary Catherine Houchin b: August 08, 1854 m: January 05, 1871 d: December 02, 1936 2 William Henry "W H" Estes b: May 1850 .... +Sarah M. Holton m: October 06, 1870 in Edmonson County, Ky. *2nd Wife of William Henry "W H" Estes: .... +Margaret Holder m: August 01, 1880 in Edmonson County, Ky. 2 James Melvyn Estes b: February 28, 1852 in Barren County, Ky. d: March 06, 1918 in Barren County, Ky. .... +Melissa Jane Pace b: January 11, 1856 m: Abt. 1873 in Barren County, Ky. d: January 16, 1905 in Barren County, Ky. 2 Samuel Estes b: April 09, 1855 in Hart Co. d: September 30, 1926 in Glasgow, Ky. [on the witness stand] .... +Nancy Ellen Gray b: August 12, 1858 m: September 04, 1873 in Edmonson County, Ky. d: February 12, 1895 *2nd Wife of Samuel Estes: .... +Rose Waddel b: August 13, 1880 in Hart County, Ky. m: Bef. 1900 d: February 18, 1963 in Louisville, Ky. 2 George W. Estes b: 1858 ----------------------------------------------------------- James Estes' son James Melvyn had a son George Marshall Estes. Thank you, Herb Scott
Will the person who asked about the family yearbook ad please email me direct? A friend online would like to talk with you about the flyer. Linda McCain Stansell _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
re.: Estes 2001....caveat emptor ----- Original Message ----- From: <ESTES-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ESTES-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 10:00 AM Subject: ESTES-D Digest V00 #131
I just checked my favorites list for the URL where they post genealogy hoaxes such as books. Can't find it so I must not have saved it. You may be able to find it through a search online. One of my very distant relatives told everyone about a book on her surname a few months ago, only to be very upset when she received it. Just another list of addresses. Linda McCain Stansell >From: LEastes2@aol.com >To: ESTES-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ESTES-L] The Year 2001 Eastes Book >Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:57:29 EDT > >Hi Everyone - > > I just received a letter from a first cousin asking about a book that I >have >not heard about. I hope someone can shed some light on the matter The word >I >got was: > > "The Year 2001 Eastes Family Yearbook" from a Maxwell & Christine Eastes, >n.d.p. The price is $39.95 and you get a free CD Rom with Eastes facts on >it. >The publisher is Morphcorp LLC dba, The Eastes Family News, Denver, CO. > >Has anyone seen this book? Does anyone have any knowledge of this book? > > Please reply direct to me. > >Best Regards > > Roy Eastes Roy@eastes.com > ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< END >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >When we record our heritage we take great pride in looking at our list of >ancestors and admire their origins, migrations and accomplishments. But, >what good is it - unless it’s true? > >We need stories and rumors, they are great and often lead to the truth! >BUT - Help eliminate errors. Don't take anything as Fact! Check references >for validity! If we don’t our children’s children will be led down >false >trails and they will never be able to find their true heritage. > > > > >==== ESTES Mailing List ==== >A web page which includes GenConnect Boards for the input of queries and >data are accessible from my main web page located at ><http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~acwomack/acwindex.html> > > >============================== >Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. >RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Hi Everyone - I just received a letter from a first cousin asking about a book that I have not heard about. I hope someone can shed some light on the matter The word I got was: "The Year 2001 Eastes Family Yearbook" from a Maxwell & Christine Eastes, n.d.p. The price is $39.95 and you get a free CD Rom with Eastes facts on it. The publisher is Morphcorp LLC dba, The Eastes Family News, Denver, CO. Has anyone seen this book? Does anyone have any knowledge of this book? Please reply direct to me. Best Regards Roy Eastes Roy@eastes.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< END >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we record our heritage we take great pride in looking at our list of ancestors and admire their origins, migrations and accomplishments. But, what good is it - unless it’s true? We need stories and rumors, they are great and often lead to the truth! BUT - Help eliminate errors. Don't take anything as Fact! Check references for validity! If we don’t our children’s children will be led down false trails and they will never be able to find their true heritage.
I was wondering if this could be your Sarah,. Richardson S. Estes b.1805 d. 1872 m. Priscilla Fletcher b.1805 d.1866. Children; Sarah C. b.1827 d.? Thomas b. 1830 d.? A.Kirkland
PaperHeath@aol.com wrote: > > In any case, I have a Ransom (b. 1873) as the son of John G. > (Giddeon?) Estes and Missouri Wood... When I saw that I went and checked. I have "Ransburn" instead of Ransom. I presume the two are the same. Same dob. I have John Monton Estes Jr and not John Gideon Estes. However, John's eldest child was Thomas Gideon Estes. Could this be a source of confusion? > I'm also not sure where I got the middle name. My software does not > let me differentiate sources between surnames, given names, and middle > names. One of the reasons I dont use a genealogy package. :) The souce I have for Ransom/Ransburn is: [a19] "Descendents of John M. Estes", Jim Estes, <jestes@ionet.net>, at: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~armarion/familylines/estesjohn.html>. cheers, David. -- A stranger in a world I never made - Housman DC2.D A+++! L^ Pfwl Bfl Fo R+++! Ac+ J-- S++ Fr+++! I+ H++ $ M V+++ Cag http://xenon.triode.net.au/~dragon mailto:dragon@triode.net.au
List My question to John was in reference to Sarah b abt 1827 not THOMAS I already have him, I'm looking for a clue as to his father. His mother was SARAH, but in the 1850 census the only SARAH remotely familiar in Tn. was a Sarah b abt 1806 who had a dtr mary 11 and one named Martha who was 10 along with others who didn't appear right anyway the dates are wrong for Sarah, Mary and Martha, opp's there is a dtr SARAH 7 in here but that age doesn't fit either my Sarah was b abt 1827..... Carl PaperHeath@aol.com wrote: > > I seem to be getting all the emails. I think these are meant to go to the > group, when you hit reply the email goes to the person who sent the mail > not to the list. So, hit reply all and the message will go to the list. > > Carl is looking for Thomas. Hope this helps. > ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- > Date: 08/23 3:16 PM > Received: 08/23 3:17 PM > From: hpe@millertel.net > To: Me, PaperHeath@aol.com > > From: hpe@millertel.net (hpe) > To: PaperHeath@aol.com > well we have a Thomas T Estes who we don't know where he went but think > that > he went to ark. and the age of theis Sara is about the age of our thomas > t. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <PaperHeath@aol.com> > To: <ESTES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 2:30 PM > Subject: Fwd: Re: [ESTES-L] John M. Estes of Yellville, AR > > > This came to me but it was probably meant for the group so I'm > forwarding > > it. > > ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- > > Date: 08/23 12:07 PM > > Received: 08/23 12:00 PM > > From: cestes@fuse.net > > To: Me, PaperHeath@aol.com > > > > From: cestes@fuse.net (carl estes) > > To: PaperHeath@aol.com > > Hi John > > Please forgive me for the interruption, I am looking for the husband > > of SARAH ESTES b abt 1827 with children Mary, son's Wilson, and THOMAS > > E. ESTES. Thomas was my ggrand father and I have been looking for his > > father and have had a lot of help, but to no avail..I know his mother > > was SARAH but cant find a father. Would you look and see if you have > > them??... I hope you can help.......... Carl Estes > > > > PaperHeath@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > BJ, > > > > > > Thanks for posting this. I had the dates, but they came from > published > > > histories of Yellville, Military records, and family historians. > > > > > > You asked about Ransom. I have a Ransom Estes (b. 1873) so it may be > > him. > > > However, there are a number of descendants of John and Charlotte with > > the > > > middle initial R. also in their names so I wouldn't say it is > > absolutely > > > him, because of the possibility that one of the others could have > gone > > by > > > their middle name. > > > > > > In any case, I have a Ransom (b. 1873) as the son of John G. > (Giddeon?) > > > Estes and Missouri Wood. Here's where my research is different than > the > > > information on the Estes site. I have John G. (not Minton) Estes (b. > 7 > > > Jan 1830 Cannon County, TN d. 14 Feb 1873 Marion County, Ark) as the > > son > > > of John Moses (not Minton) Estes (b. 28 Apr 1804 Greenville County, > SC > > d. > > > 13 Mar 1881 Yellville, Ark) and Charlotte Elkins (b. 7 Mar 1809 > > Tennessee > > > d. 19 Jan 1908 Yellville). Both burried near the airport at Flippin, > > > Arkansas. Charlotte (Charlotta) was the daughter of Murphy Elkins and > > > Stacy Dillard. > > > > > > I'm also not sure where I got the middle name. My software does not > let > > > me differentiate sources between surnames, given names, and middle > > names. > > > But, I have the sources listed and I'll have to go back and look at > the > > > hard copies individually to see where I got the middle name of Moses. > > If > > > I'd have known there would be a question about it, I suppose I'd have > > > made a note of it directly in my files. > > > > > > My differences don't seem to be dates, but the middle name of > Minton. I > > > am not saying that the middle name of Minton is incorrect, or > > impossible. > > > In fact, there were some descendants of John and Charlotte with the > > name > > > Minton (for instance James C. Estes and Mira Moore named a son > Gilbert > > > Minton). I just wanted to find out where it comes from so I could get > > my > > > records correct. > > > > > > BTW, about the Gideon? middle name reference. I vaguely recall that a > > > Gideon Thompson was John's brother-in-law (husband of Margaret) and > > they > > > fought in the civil war together and went to prison camp together. Do > > you > > > know anything about about Gideon Thompson and Margaret? I have that > > they > > > had two children, but don't have any firm dates on Gideon Thompson or > > his > > > parents. Obviously, he had some effect on the family as several other > > > siblings named their children Gideon. > > > > > > I am mostly interested in the Barnhill, Lewis, Parker, Hutchinson, > Wood > > > and Bell connections as this is where my lines connect. > > > > > > Thanks again, for posting the tombstone records. > > > > > > April > > > > > > >From: canerday@mindspring.com (b j canerday) > > > >To: ESTES-L@rootsweb.com > > > >Oh, finally - I can help with this one! > > > > > > > >I'm holding 'hard' evidence in my hand. A photo of of the tombstone > > of > > > >John! Let me tell you what it says. > > > > > > > >John & Charlotte are both buried in the Flippin, Arkansas cemetary. > > I will > > > >scan and send .jpgs to anyone who wants them - although they may not > > read > > > >too well. John's says. . . > > > >--------------- > > > > > > > >Gone Home > > > >(picture of a lamb here) > > > >John Estes > > > >Husband of > > > >CHARLOTIA ESTES > > > > Born > > > >Apr. 28, 1804; > > > > Died > > > >Mar. 13, 1881; > > > > Aged > > > >76 Ys. 10 Ms. 15 Ds. > > > >----------------------- > > > >I know, I know, Charlotte's name is spelled different. So what > else > > is > > > >new. Anyway, right beside him is. . . > > > >----------------------- > > > > > > > >CHARLOTTE > > > >WIFE OF > > > >JOHN ESTES > > > >Born Mar. 1809 > > > >Died Feb. 1908 > > > >Aged 98 Years > > > > 11 Months > > > >----------------------- > > > > > > > >I have in my records that his name was John Minton Estes but that > was > > before > > > >(sorry) I started to document WHERE I got everything. I'll find it > > again. > > > >I do believe it was Minton tho. . .not Moses. This is John, Son of > > Gallant > > > >& Margaret, who came from Tennessee. > > > > > > > >Also alongside them is the tombstone of Ransom Estes, Born Sept 6, > > 1872, > > > >Died Dec. 10, 1904 Aged 32Y 3M 4D > > > >Blessed are the pure in heart for they are of the kingdom of heaven > > > > > > > >I've asked before. . .but does anybody know anything about Ransom? > > > > > > I want to find ALL of them! So far I only have a few thousand. > > > > > > ==== ESTES Mailing List ==== > > > To un-subscribe, you must "request" the service by sending the one > > word message "UNSUBSCRIBE" without the quotes to > > <ESTES-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > ============================== > > > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > > > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > > > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > > > > -- > > http://home.fuse.net/cestes/bloodyharlan_html.HTM > > > > http://home.fuse.net/cestes/ouramericanflag.HTM > > > > Http://home.fuse.net/cestes > > > > > > > > GOD AND THE SOLDIER WE ALL AGREE > > IN TIMES OF STRIFE WE REALLY NEED > > WHEN THE TROUBLE IS GONE AND WEiRE IN HIGH COTTON > > GOD IS REJECTED, THE OLD SOLDIER FORGOTTEN > > > > > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- > > Return-Path: <cestes@fuse.net> > > Received: from rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (rly-yb03.mail.aol.com > > [172.18.146.3]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v75_b3.11) with ESMTP; Wed, > 23 > > Aug 2000 15:07:53 -0400 > > Received: from shazaam.fuse.net (shazaam.fuse.net [216.68.1.123]) by > > rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:07:30 > -0400 > > Received: from fuse.net ([216.68.120.253]) by shazaam.fuse.net > > (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license > > 55099144ff2ca28e37c1a3433615ef97) > > with ESMTP id <20000823190735.PLWT423.shazaam@fuse.net> > > for <PaperHeath@aol.com>; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:07:35 -0400 > > Message-ID: <39A420DB.F3914BE7@fuse.net> > > Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:07:07 -0400 > > From: carl estes <cestes@fuse.net> > > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) > > X-Accept-Language: en > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > To: PaperHeath@aol.com > > Subject: Re: [ESTES-L] John M. Estes of Yellville, AR > > References: <62.69331ae.26d56adc@aol.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > > > > ----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- > > > > My family tree is a few branches short! 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I seem to be getting all the emails. I think these are meant to go to the group, when you hit reply the email goes to the person who sent the mail not to the list. So, hit reply all and the message will go to the list. Carl is looking for Thomas. Hope this helps. ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Date: 08/23 3:16 PM Received: 08/23 3:17 PM From: hpe@millertel.net To: Me, PaperHeath@aol.com From: hpe@millertel.net (hpe) To: PaperHeath@aol.com well we have a Thomas T Estes who we don't know where he went but think that he went to ark. and the age of theis Sara is about the age of our thomas t. ----- Original Message ----- From: <PaperHeath@aol.com> To: <ESTES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 2:30 PM Subject: Fwd: Re: [ESTES-L] John M. Estes of Yellville, AR > This came to me but it was probably meant for the group so I'm forwarding > it. > ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- > Date: 08/23 12:07 PM > Received: 08/23 12:00 PM > From: cestes@fuse.net > To: Me, PaperHeath@aol.com > > From: cestes@fuse.net (carl estes) > To: PaperHeath@aol.com > Hi John > Please forgive me for the interruption, I am looking for the husband > of SARAH ESTES b abt 1827 with children Mary, son's Wilson, and THOMAS > E. ESTES. Thomas was my ggrand father and I have been looking for his > father and have had a lot of help, but to no avail..I know his mother > was SARAH but cant find a father. Would you look and see if you have > them??... I hope you can help.......... Carl Estes > > PaperHeath@aol.com wrote: > > > > BJ, > > > > Thanks for posting this. I had the dates, but they came from published > > histories of Yellville, Military records, and family historians. > > > > You asked about Ransom. I have a Ransom Estes (b. 1873) so it may be > him. > > However, there are a number of descendants of John and Charlotte with > the > > middle initial R. also in their names so I wouldn't say it is > absolutely > > him, because of the possibility that one of the others could have gone > by > > their middle name. > > > > In any case, I have a Ransom (b. 1873) as the son of John G. (Giddeon?) > > Estes and Missouri Wood. Here's where my research is different than the > > information on the Estes site. I have John G. (not Minton) Estes (b. 7 > > Jan 1830 Cannon County, TN d. 14 Feb 1873 Marion County, Ark) as the > son > > of John Moses (not Minton) Estes (b. 28 Apr 1804 Greenville County, SC > d. > > 13 Mar 1881 Yellville, Ark) and Charlotte Elkins (b. 7 Mar 1809 > Tennessee > > d. 19 Jan 1908 Yellville). Both burried near the airport at Flippin, > > Arkansas. Charlotte (Charlotta) was the daughter of Murphy Elkins and > > Stacy Dillard. > > > > I'm also not sure where I got the middle name. My software does not let > > me differentiate sources between surnames, given names, and middle > names. > > But, I have the sources listed and I'll have to go back and look at the > > hard copies individually to see where I got the middle name of Moses. > If > > I'd have known there would be a question about it, I suppose I'd have > > made a note of it directly in my files. > > > > My differences don't seem to be dates, but the middle name of Minton. I > > am not saying that the middle name of Minton is incorrect, or > impossible. > > In fact, there were some descendants of John and Charlotte with the > name > > Minton (for instance James C. Estes and Mira Moore named a son Gilbert > > Minton). I just wanted to find out where it comes from so I could get > my > > records correct. > > > > BTW, about the Gideon? middle name reference. I vaguely recall that a > > Gideon Thompson was John's brother-in-law (husband of Margaret) and > they > > fought in the civil war together and went to prison camp together. Do > you > > know anything about about Gideon Thompson and Margaret? I have that > they > > had two children, but don't have any firm dates on Gideon Thompson or > his > > parents. Obviously, he had some effect on the family as several other > > siblings named their children Gideon. > > > > I am mostly interested in the Barnhill, Lewis, Parker, Hutchinson, Wood > > and Bell connections as this is where my lines connect. > > > > Thanks again, for posting the tombstone records. > > > > April > > > > >From: canerday@mindspring.com (b j canerday) > > >To: ESTES-L@rootsweb.com > > >Oh, finally - I can help with this one! > > > > > >I'm holding 'hard' evidence in my hand. A photo of of the tombstone > of > > >John! Let me tell you what it says. > > > > > >John & Charlotte are both buried in the Flippin, Arkansas cemetary. > I will > > >scan and send .jpgs to anyone who wants them - although they may not > read > > >too well. John's says. . . > > >--------------- > > > > > >Gone Home > > >(picture of a lamb here) > > >John Estes > > >Husband of > > >CHARLOTIA ESTES > > > Born > > >Apr. 28, 1804; > > > Died > > >Mar. 13, 1881; > > > Aged > > >76 Ys. 10 Ms. 15 Ds. > > >----------------------- > > >I know, I know, Charlotte's name is spelled different. So what else > is > > >new. Anyway, right beside him is. . . > > >----------------------- > > > > > >CHARLOTTE > > >WIFE OF > > >JOHN ESTES > > >Born Mar. 1809 > > >Died Feb. 1908 > > >Aged 98 Years > > > 11 Months > > >----------------------- > > > > > >I have in my records that his name was John Minton Estes but that was > before > > >(sorry) I started to document WHERE I got everything. I'll find it > again. > > >I do believe it was Minton tho. . .not Moses. This is John, Son of > Gallant > > >& Margaret, who came from Tennessee. > > > > > >Also alongside them is the tombstone of Ransom Estes, Born Sept 6, > 1872, > > >Died Dec. 10, 1904 Aged 32Y 3M 4D > > >Blessed are the pure in heart for they are of the kingdom of heaven > > > > > >I've asked before. . .but does anybody know anything about Ransom? > > > > I want to find ALL of them! So far I only have a few thousand. > > > > ==== ESTES Mailing List ==== > > To un-subscribe, you must "request" the service by sending the one > word message "UNSUBSCRIBE" without the quotes to > <ESTES-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com> > > > > ============================== > > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > > -- > http://home.fuse.net/cestes/bloodyharlan_html.HTM > > http://home.fuse.net/cestes/ouramericanflag.HTM > > Http://home.fuse.net/cestes > > > > GOD AND THE SOLDIER WE ALL AGREE > IN TIMES OF STRIFE WE REALLY NEED > WHEN THE TROUBLE IS GONE AND WEiRE IN HIGH COTTON > GOD IS REJECTED, THE OLD SOLDIER FORGOTTEN > > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- > Return-Path: <cestes@fuse.net> > Received: from rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (rly-yb03.mail.aol.com > [172.18.146.3]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v75_b3.11) with ESMTP; Wed, 23 > Aug 2000 15:07:53 -0400 > Received: from shazaam.fuse.net (shazaam.fuse.net [216.68.1.123]) by > rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:07:30 -0400 > Received: from fuse.net ([216.68.120.253]) by shazaam.fuse.net > (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license > 55099144ff2ca28e37c1a3433615ef97) > with ESMTP id <20000823190735.PLWT423.shazaam@fuse.net> > for <PaperHeath@aol.com>; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:07:35 -0400 > Message-ID: <39A420DB.F3914BE7@fuse.net> > Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:07:07 -0400 > From: carl estes <cestes@fuse.net> > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) > X-Accept-Language: en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: PaperHeath@aol.com > Subject: Re: [ESTES-L] John M. Estes of Yellville, AR > References: <62.69331ae.26d56adc@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > ----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- > > My family tree is a few branches short! All help appreciated. > > > ==== ESTES Mailing List ==== > Do NOT send virus warnings, chain letters or any items that say "forward this message to everyone you know" through this list. > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <hpe@millertel.net> Received: from rly-zd05.mx.aol.com (rly-zd05.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.229]) by air-zd02.mail.aol.com (v75_b3.11) with ESMTP; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 18:16:04 -0400 Received: from mail3.brightok.net (mail3.brightok.net [206.30.106.72]) by rly-zd05.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 18:15:34 -0400 Received: from compaq ([204.249.199.107]) by mail3.brightok.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA09095 for <PaperHeath@aol.com>; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 17:15:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001701c00d4f$965b09a0$6bc7f9cc@compaq> From: "hpe" <hpe@millertel.net> To: <PaperHeath@aol.com> References: <25.9f51de2.26d5805a@aol.com> Subject: Re: Re: [ESTES-L] John M. Estes of Yellville, AR Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 17:15:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- ___ /___\__ (o o) +==--o00--(_)--00o--==+ { HeyCuz! } {http://heycuz.cjb.net} +==-----------------==+ |__|__| || || Are you Family? ooO Ooo Come see how you relate!
I am also looking for more information on these Estes and Cowserts. IL Marriages ESTES, WILLIAM L COWSART, MISSOURI POPE 10/28/1884 ESTES, TIMOTHY COWSERT, ELIZABETH POPE 11/15/1879 COWSERT, ALEXANDER ESTES, ELIZABETH POPE 12/03/1871 COWSERT, ELIZABETH ESTES, DAVID ? 06/14/1915 Please contact me if you have more information on them. April Shh! Be very, very quiet.... I'm hunting forebears.
This came to me but it was probably meant for the group so I'm forwarding it. ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Date: 08/23 12:07 PM Received: 08/23 12:00 PM From: cestes@fuse.net To: Me, PaperHeath@aol.com From: cestes@fuse.net (carl estes) To: PaperHeath@aol.com Hi John Please forgive me for the interruption, I am looking for the husband of SARAH ESTES b abt 1827 with children Mary, son's Wilson, and THOMAS E. ESTES. Thomas was my ggrand father and I have been looking for his father and have had a lot of help, but to no avail..I know his mother was SARAH but cant find a father. Would you look and see if you have them??... I hope you can help.......... Carl Estes PaperHeath@aol.com wrote: > > BJ, > > Thanks for posting this. I had the dates, but they came from published > histories of Yellville, Military records, and family historians. > > You asked about Ransom. I have a Ransom Estes (b. 1873) so it may be him. > However, there are a number of descendants of John and Charlotte with the > middle initial R. also in their names so I wouldn't say it is absolutely > him, because of the possibility that one of the others could have gone by > their middle name. > > In any case, I have a Ransom (b. 1873) as the son of John G. (Giddeon?) > Estes and Missouri Wood. Here's where my research is different than the > information on the Estes site. I have John G. (not Minton) Estes (b. 7 > Jan 1830 Cannon County, TN d. 14 Feb 1873 Marion County, Ark) as the son > of John Moses (not Minton) Estes (b. 28 Apr 1804 Greenville County, SC d. > 13 Mar 1881 Yellville, Ark) and Charlotte Elkins (b. 7 Mar 1809 Tennessee > d. 19 Jan 1908 Yellville). Both burried near the airport at Flippin, > Arkansas. Charlotte (Charlotta) was the daughter of Murphy Elkins and > Stacy Dillard. > > I'm also not sure where I got the middle name. My software does not let > me differentiate sources between surnames, given names, and middle names. > But, I have the sources listed and I'll have to go back and look at the > hard copies individually to see where I got the middle name of Moses. If > I'd have known there would be a question about it, I suppose I'd have > made a note of it directly in my files. > > My differences don't seem to be dates, but the middle name of Minton. I > am not saying that the middle name of Minton is incorrect, or impossible. > In fact, there were some descendants of John and Charlotte with the name > Minton (for instance James C. Estes and Mira Moore named a son Gilbert > Minton). I just wanted to find out where it comes from so I could get my > records correct. > > BTW, about the Gideon? middle name reference. I vaguely recall that a > Gideon Thompson was John's brother-in-law (husband of Margaret) and they > fought in the civil war together and went to prison camp together. Do you > know anything about about Gideon Thompson and Margaret? I have that they > had two children, but don't have any firm dates on Gideon Thompson or his > parents. Obviously, he had some effect on the family as several other > siblings named their children Gideon. > > I am mostly interested in the Barnhill, Lewis, Parker, Hutchinson, Wood > and Bell connections as this is where my lines connect. > > Thanks again, for posting the tombstone records. > > April > > >From: canerday@mindspring.com (b j canerday) > >To: ESTES-L@rootsweb.com > >Oh, finally - I can help with this one! > > > >I'm holding 'hard' evidence in my hand. A photo of of the tombstone of > >John! Let me tell you what it says. > > > >John & Charlotte are both buried in the Flippin, Arkansas cemetary. I will > >scan and send .jpgs to anyone who wants them - although they may not read > >too well. John's says. . . > >--------------- > > > >Gone Home > >(picture of a lamb here) > >John Estes > >Husband of > >CHARLOTIA ESTES > > Born > >Apr. 28, 1804; > > Died > >Mar. 13, 1881; > > Aged > >76 Ys. 10 Ms. 15 Ds. > >----------------------- > >I know, I know, Charlotte's name is spelled different. So what else is > >new. Anyway, right beside him is. . . > >----------------------- > > > >CHARLOTTE > >WIFE OF > >JOHN ESTES > >Born Mar. 1809 > >Died Feb. 1908 > >Aged 98 Years > > 11 Months > >----------------------- > > > >I have in my records that his name was John Minton Estes but that was before > >(sorry) I started to document WHERE I got everything. I'll find it again. > >I do believe it was Minton tho. . .not Moses. This is John, Son of Gallant > >& Margaret, who came from Tennessee. > > > >Also alongside them is the tombstone of Ransom Estes, Born Sept 6, 1872, > >Died Dec. 10, 1904 Aged 32Y 3M 4D > >Blessed are the pure in heart for they are of the kingdom of heaven > > > >I've asked before. . .but does anybody know anything about Ransom? > > I want to find ALL of them! So far I only have a few thousand. > > ==== ESTES Mailing List ==== > To un-subscribe, you must "request" the service by sending the one word message "UNSUBSCRIBE" without the quotes to <ESTES-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com> > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ -- http://home.fuse.net/cestes/bloodyharlan_html.HTM http://home.fuse.net/cestes/ouramericanflag.HTM Http://home.fuse.net/cestes GOD AND THE SOLDIER WE ALL AGREE IN TIMES OF STRIFE WE REALLY NEED WHEN THE TROUBLE IS GONE AND WEiRE IN HIGH COTTON GOD IS REJECTED, THE OLD SOLDIER FORGOTTEN ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <cestes@fuse.net> Received: from rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (rly-yb03.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.3]) by air-yb01.mail.aol.com (v75_b3.11) with ESMTP; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:07:53 -0400 Received: from shazaam.fuse.net (shazaam.fuse.net [216.68.1.123]) by rly-yb03.mx.aol.com (v75_b3.9) with ESMTP; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:07:30 -0400 Received: from fuse.net ([216.68.120.253]) by shazaam.fuse.net (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 55099144ff2ca28e37c1a3433615ef97) with ESMTP id <20000823190735.PLWT423.shazaam@fuse.net> for <PaperHeath@aol.com>; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:07:35 -0400 Message-ID: <39A420DB.F3914BE7@fuse.net> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:07:07 -0400 From: carl estes <cestes@fuse.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PaperHeath@aol.com Subject: Re: [ESTES-L] John M. Estes of Yellville, AR References: <62.69331ae.26d56adc@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- My family tree is a few branches short! All help appreciated.
BJ, Thanks for posting this. I had the dates, but they came from published histories of Yellville, Military records, and family historians. You asked about Ransom. I have a Ransom Estes (b. 1873) so it may be him. However, there are a number of descendants of John and Charlotte with the middle initial R. also in their names so I wouldn't say it is absolutely him, because of the possibility that one of the others could have gone by their middle name. In any case, I have a Ransom (b. 1873) as the son of John G. (Giddeon?) Estes and Missouri Wood. Here's where my research is different than the information on the Estes site. I have John G. (not Minton) Estes (b. 7 Jan 1830 Cannon County, TN d. 14 Feb 1873 Marion County, Ark) as the son of John Moses (not Minton) Estes (b. 28 Apr 1804 Greenville County, SC d. 13 Mar 1881 Yellville, Ark) and Charlotte Elkins (b. 7 Mar 1809 Tennessee d. 19 Jan 1908 Yellville). Both burried near the airport at Flippin, Arkansas. Charlotte (Charlotta) was the daughter of Murphy Elkins and Stacy Dillard. I'm also not sure where I got the middle name. My software does not let me differentiate sources between surnames, given names, and middle names. But, I have the sources listed and I'll have to go back and look at the hard copies individually to see where I got the middle name of Moses. If I'd have known there would be a question about it, I suppose I'd have made a note of it directly in my files. My differences don't seem to be dates, but the middle name of Minton. I am not saying that the middle name of Minton is incorrect, or impossible. In fact, there were some descendants of John and Charlotte with the name Minton (for instance James C. Estes and Mira Moore named a son Gilbert Minton). I just wanted to find out where it comes from so I could get my records correct. BTW, about the Gideon? middle name reference. I vaguely recall that a Gideon Thompson was John's brother-in-law (husband of Margaret) and they fought in the civil war together and went to prison camp together. Do you know anything about about Gideon Thompson and Margaret? I have that they had two children, but don't have any firm dates on Gideon Thompson or his parents. Obviously, he had some effect on the family as several other siblings named their children Gideon. I am mostly interested in the Barnhill, Lewis, Parker, Hutchinson, Wood and Bell connections as this is where my lines connect. Thanks again, for posting the tombstone records. April >From: canerday@mindspring.com (b j canerday) >To: ESTES-L@rootsweb.com >Oh, finally - I can help with this one! > >I'm holding 'hard' evidence in my hand. A photo of of the tombstone of >John! Let me tell you what it says. > >John & Charlotte are both buried in the Flippin, Arkansas cemetary. I will >scan and send .jpgs to anyone who wants them - although they may not read >too well. John's says. . . >--------------- > >Gone Home >(picture of a lamb here) >John Estes >Husband of >CHARLOTIA ESTES > Born >Apr. 28, 1804; > Died >Mar. 13, 1881; > Aged >76 Ys. 10 Ms. 15 Ds. >----------------------- >I know, I know, Charlotte's name is spelled different. So what else is >new. Anyway, right beside him is. . . >----------------------- > >CHARLOTTE >WIFE OF >JOHN ESTES >Born Mar. 1809 >Died Feb. 1908 >Aged 98 Years > 11 Months >----------------------- > >I have in my records that his name was John Minton Estes but that was before >(sorry) I started to document WHERE I got everything. I'll find it again. >I do believe it was Minton tho. . .not Moses. This is John, Son of Gallant >& Margaret, who came from Tennessee. > >Also alongside them is the tombstone of Ransom Estes, Born Sept 6, 1872, >Died Dec. 10, 1904 Aged 32Y 3M 4D >Blessed are the pure in heart for they are of the kingdom of heaven > >I've asked before. . .but does anybody know anything about Ransom? I want to find ALL of them! So far I only have a few thousand.
Oh, finally - I can help with this one! I'm holding 'hard' evidence in my hand. A photo of of the tombstone of John! Let me tell you what it says. John & Charlotte are both buried in the Flippin, Arkansas cemetary. I will scan and send .jpgs to anyone who wants them - although they may not read too well. John's says. . . --------------- Gone Home (picture of a lamb here) John Estes Husband of CHARLOTIA ESTES Born Apr. 28, 1804; Died Mar. 13, 1881; Aged 76 Ys. 10 Ms. 15 Ds. ----------------------- I know, I know, Charlotte's name is spelled different. So what else is new. Anyway, right beside him is. . . ----------------------- CHARLOTTE WIFE OF JOHN ESTES Born Mar. 1809 Died Feb. 1908 Aged 98 Years 11 Months ----------------------- I have in my records that his name was John Minton Estes but that was before (sorry) I started to document WHERE I got everything. I'll find it again. I do believe it was Minton tho. . .not Moses. This is John, Son of Gallant & Margaret, who came from Tennessee. Also alongside them is the tombstone of Ransom Estes, Born Sept 6, 1872, Died Dec. 10, 1904 Aged 32Y 3M 4D Blessed are the pure in heart for they are of the kingdom of heaven I've asked before. . .but does anybody know anything about Ransom? -----Original Message----- From: Marayong [mailto:dragon@triode.net.au] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 2:15 AM To: ESTES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ESTES-L] John M. Estes of Yellville, AR G'day folks, I've just gotten an email from April Heath which has again pointed out the discrepancy surrounding the date of death for John Minton Estes, born 1804, Greenville Co, SC, thence to Cannon Co, TN and eventually to Yellville, Marion Co, AR. (He's also been called John Moses Estes by some, tho' all the reliable evidence I've seen says he was Minton). The problem is that I have seen two different dates quoted for his death, namely 1857 and 1881 (and presumably they didn't take over 20 years to bury his corpse!). Does anyone have hard evidence that points to one or the other? By "hard" I mean a tombstone record (especially one you or someone you know has checked), a family bible etc. Different books on the region give one or the other date, so I'd rather not rely on them. The issue is somewhat complicated in that John had a son, John Minton Estes Jr. According to "A Reminiscent History of the Ozarks", by Ramfire (I think this is the right source .. April?), a John (Minton) Estes was a signer of the incorporation of Yellville in 1872. It has been presumed by others that it referred to John Sr, but could it have been John Jr? Before one jumps to the conclusion that the 1857 date is obviously the dod for John Sr and the 1881 date is that for John Jr, I also have a dod for John Jr of 1873. As I said, the situation is a tad complicated. :) I don't know where the 1857 and 1881 dates come from .. are they from tombstones, wills, family bibles or what? Or the 1873 date for John Jr for that matter. cheers, David. -- A stranger in a world I never made - Housman DC2.D A+++! L^ Pfwl Bfl Fo R+++! Ac+ J-- S++ Fr+++! I+ H++ $ M V+++ Cag http://xenon.triode.net.au/~dragon mailto:dragon@triode.net.au ==== ESTES Mailing List ==== ============================== Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at http://resources.rootsweb.com/
G'day folks, I've just gotten an email from April Heath which has again pointed out the discrepancy surrounding the date of death for John Minton Estes, born 1804, Greenville Co, SC, thence to Cannon Co, TN and eventually to Yellville, Marion Co, AR. (He's also been called John Moses Estes by some, tho' all the reliable evidence I've seen says he was Minton). The problem is that I have seen two different dates quoted for his death, namely 1857 and 1881 (and presumably they didn't take over 20 years to bury his corpse!). Does anyone have hard evidence that points to one or the other? By "hard" I mean a tombstone record (especially one you or someone you know has checked), a family bible etc. Different books on the region give one or the other date, so I'd rather not rely on them. The issue is somewhat complicated in that John had a son, John Minton Estes Jr. According to "A Reminiscent History of the Ozarks", by Ramfire (I think this is the right source .. April?), a John (Minton) Estes was a signer of the incorporation of Yellville in 1872. It has been presumed by others that it referred to John Sr, but could it have been John Jr? Before one jumps to the conclusion that the 1857 date is obviously the dod for John Sr and the 1881 date is that for John Jr, I also have a dod for John Jr of 1873. As I said, the situation is a tad complicated. :) I don't know where the 1857 and 1881 dates come from .. are they from tombstones, wills, family bibles or what? Or the 1873 date for John Jr for that matter. cheers, David. -- A stranger in a world I never made - Housman DC2.D A+++! L^ Pfwl Bfl Fo R+++! Ac+ J-- S++ Fr+++! I+ H++ $ M V+++ Cag http://xenon.triode.net.au/~dragon mailto:dragon@triode.net.au
Dear Estes Researchers, I found another Estes to add to my line and was wondering if anyone knows who this is. Julia Chambliss (also Juliett Chambers), d/o John Chambliss and Margaret Dally Estes. Margaret was the daughter of Edmund Estes and Charlotty Golding. Julia married a man named C. Robert Sambo Cowsert. I recently learned that his parents were James Cowsert (b. 1830) and Missouri Settles. I also learned that when James died, Missouri remarried to a man named William L. Estes. Who is he? This family is from Illinois, before that came from Tennessee and before that North Carolina and before that Virginia. (all in one generation). I was wondering if anyone had any other Cowsert / Estes connections that could provide some answers. April My family tree is a few branches short! All help appreciated.
This lady is apparently transcribing some list that has original marriage licenses from this county ----- Original Message ----- From: Wanda Ellis <wellis@redriverok.com> To: <NORTH-TX-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 7:58 PM Subject: Fw: #28 ORIGINAL MARRIAGE LICENSES FROM BRYAN COUNTY, OKLAHOMA > > > If you are interested in any of these please send a Stamped self addressed envelope to the Bryan County Heritage Assoc., P. O. Box 153, Calera, OK 74730. They will send you information telling you how to get one and whether or not the license is still there for you. > > Some additions and corrections in the previous letter first. > > Carstarphen, Sam m. Lane, Myrtle 28 May 1932 > Badgett, Sacial m. Call, Marietta 30 Sep 1931 (originally listed as 31 of Sep) > Cass, Alvin m. Crenshaw, Anna Dee 21 Jun 1931 > Cauley, Newman W. m. Batot, Hilda Fay 16 Aug 1931 > Cooper, Fate m. McDonald, Willie 4 Feb 1930 > > Copeland, Eugene m. Prichard, Inez 11 Jul 1932 > Costiloe, Guy m. Coats, Jessie 21 Jan 1924 > Couckuyt, Paul m. Brown, Cleo 30 May 1923 > > NEW ONES > > England, W. H. m. Nolan, Cara Lee 25 Jul 1930 > English, Geo Stephen m. Snider, Ona Margaret 17 Dec 1929 > Enloe, Joe m. Coleman, Velma 2 Jan 1930 > Ennis, P. W. m. Morris, Jewel, Mrs 22 Dec 1923 > Eppers, H. F. m. Ingle, Lilli 16 Dec 1924 > > Ervin, Arthur m. Huntley, Mary 24 Aug 1931 > Eshleman, E. D. m. Brennan, Mary E. 12 Jul 1931 > Espinoza, Salome m. Tavera, Else 30 Jul 1930 > Essex, W. G. m. Covey, Bessie E. 27 May 1929 > Estep, Odis m. Wilkerson, Maggie 24 Sep 1932 > > Estes, J. W. m. Hammer, Artie 7 Jun 1924 > Estes, Robert Clay m. Estes, Effie Ellen, Mrs. 22 Aug 1929 > Estes, William m. George, Anna, Mrs. 5 Aug 1929 > Etter, R. L. m. Siebert, Thelma Fae 14 Oct 1929 > Evans, Douglas B. m. Vandervort, Myrtle Mae 4 Aug 1926 > > Evans, E. A. m. Mason, Mirtle 10 Aug 1913 > Evans, J. W. m. Bell, Edna 29 Dec 1929 > Evans, Pete m. Mitchell, Birdie 2 Oct 1929 > Everett, John O. m. Threlkeld, Edna Leah 24 May 1932 > Everhart, J. W. m. Wilson, Maxine 21 Dec 1929 > > Evetts, Clyde J. m. Wilford, Willie 9 Dec 1922 > Evitts, W. H. m. Mauldin, Nellie 9 Oct 1921 > Ewing, Burton E. m. Wyatt, Rosie Ann 28 Sep 1932 > > This is all of the E's on this disc, there will be more later. > > Wanda Ellis > wellis@redriverok.com > > > ==== NORTH-TX Mailing List ==== > North-TX-L Mailing List Utility Page > http://www.interdata.com/tx/ > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/