Is everyone just being really quiet or am I unsubscribed? Just checking... Since I haven't posted in a while, my main Estes line is Virinda Estes, Edmund and Charlotty (Golding) Estes, Elisha and Elizabeth (Golding) Estes. Still looking for proof that Elisha is the son of Samuel and Elizabeth Estes. Sorry for the interruption. April * * * * * * * * * * * * http//heycuz.cjb.net * * * * * * * * * * * * * Genealogy: Tracing yourself back to better people.

G'day folks, Just to let you all know I've posted the latest update of my Estes email contacts list: http://xenon.triode.net.au/~dragon/ft/estes/emails.html cheers, David. -- The universe is not only queerer that we imagine, it is queerer than we *can* imagine - J. B. S. Haldane DC2.D A+++! L^ Pfwl Bfl Fo R+++! Ac+ J-- S++ Fr+++! I+ H++ $ M V+++ Cag http://xenon.triode.net.au/~dragon mailto:dragon@triode.net.au

Wow! What a find. Thank you so much for this tip. I ran down the whole list of families and found many more than I had anticipated. Good job! Kudos! Hilton Estes

sorry, to many /s. http://www.nps.gov/vafo/home.htm

There are some Estes listed on the muster rolls for Valley Forge. http:///www.nps.gov/vafo/home.htm

David, The name of Carter Estes rang a bell with me. I looked in some of my books (where I hadn't looked in years) and I found the following marriage: "Carter C Estes to Sarah Francis Murry 15 Oct 1857 in Mc Cracken Co. KY. The surety was F.C. Estes. F.C. Estes gave his consent as guardian of Sarah F Murry. B Small, clerk; R.G. Grundy, D.C. Married Oct. 15 in presence of H.C. Murry and J.R. Johnston. Signed W.B. Walker." The book is McCracken Co. KY Marriage records Vol. #3, published in 1983 by Paducah-Western Kentucky Genealogical Society. I hope this helps someone. Happy hunting....Glenda E Estes

G'day Denise, We've been in touch before about this ... but anyways .. Sylvanus is a rare name and is a corruption of Sylvester, a name long associated with the Estes/Eastes family, from the early days back in england. The only occurances of Sylvanus I have are Sylvanus ESTES (1765-1823), born Henry Co, VA, died Chester Co, SC, and his descendents. The eldest son I have for Sylvanus was Carter Estes, born 1800, Chester Co, SC. He is a possible candidate, so it might be worth looking for him. I have only one wife for Sylvanus, Nicy Carter, born c.1775. Given the difference in ages and that Sylvanus would've been around 30 when they married, there may have been an earlier marriage and an older son. But, Carter would fit in with the dates you've given .. born 1800, he could easily have fathered childen from 1824-1838 .. in fact with kids born in that range, I'd have said their father was born c.1800. I have nothing further on Carter other than that he was born 1800, Chester Co, SC. Several first cousins of Carter ended up in Lee and Itawamba Counties, MS. That could be a co-incidence, but ... cheers, David. -- The universe is not only queerer that we imagine, it is queerer than we *can* imagine - J. B. S. Haldane DC2.D A+++! L^ Pfwl Bfl Fo R+++! Ac+ J-- S++ Fr+++! I+ H++ $ M V+++ Cag http://xenon.triode.net.au/~dragon mailto:dragon@triode.net.au

A cousin recently sent me new info on my Estes line. I have not been able to find my John C. Estes parents, but I know some of his siblings names and that they were in the 1880 census in Lee County, Mississippi. John C. was born in Alabama and his parents were both born in South Carolina. Below is a report of 3 generations -- any information to the whereabouts of John C. Estes parents would be GREATLY appreciated!!! Descendants of ? Generation No. 1 1. ?1 Children of ? are: 2. i. John C.2 Estes, b. Abt. 1824, Alabama. 3. ii. Sylvanus V. Estes, b. 2 Jan 1831, Alabama; d. 8 Jun 1883. 4. iii. Mary A. Estes, b. 1838, Alabama. Generation No. 2 2. John C.2 Estes (?1) was born Abt. 1824 in Alabama. He married Nancy Evans. She was born Abt. 1831 in Alabama, and died Aft. 1880. More About John C. Estes: 1880 Census: Lee County, Mississippi Burial: Bouguefala Cemetery, Mooreville, Mississippi Children of John Estes and Nancy Evans are: i. Dorincla R.3 Estes, b. Alabama. ii. Mary F. Estes, b. Abt. 1844. 5. iii. Evans E. Estes, b. 3 Jul 1845, Alabama; d. 19 Sep 1929. 6. iv. Jeptha P. Estes, b. 11 Apr 1846, Lee County, Mississippi; d. 25 Mar 1932, Lee County, Mississippi. v. Estes, b. 1861; d. 1862. vi. Eucenia J. Estes, b. 15 Sep 1863; d. 23 Aug 1869, Lee County, Mississippi. More About Eucenia J. Estes: Burial: 23 Aug 1869, Boguefala Cemetery, Mooreville, Lee County, Mississippi vii. Margaret Estes, b. Abt. 1864, Lee County, Mississippi; d. Aft. 1880. viii. Melissa Estes, b. Abt. 1867, Lee County, Mississippi; d. Aft. 1880. ix. Virginia E. Estes, b. Abt. 1869, Lee County, Mississippi. x. Charles Estes, b. Abt. 1871, Lee County, Mississippi. 3. Sylvanus V.2 Estes (?1) was born 2 Jan 1831 in Alabama, and died 8 Jun 1883. He married Matilda Gregory 6 Aug 1859 in Itawamba County, Mississippi, daughter of Alfred Gregory and Sarah Mann. She was born 10 Apr 1843 in Union County, South Carolina, and died 20 Apr 1908. More About Sylvanus V. Estes: Burial: 8 Jun 1883, Gregory Cemetery, Ballardsville, Lee County, Mississippi More About Matilda Gregory: Burial: 20 Apr 1908, Gregory Cemetery, Ballardsville, Lee County, Mississippi More About Sylvanus Estes and Matilda Gregory: Marriage: 6 Aug 1859, Itawamba County, Mississippi Children of Sylvanus Estes and Matilda Gregory are: i. Elisha3 Estes, b. 14 Feb 1869; d. 3 Oct 1871. More About Elisha Estes: Burial: 3 Oct 1871, Gregory Cemetery, Ballardsville, Lee County, Mississippi ii. Kemly I. M. D. Estes, b. Abt. 1872. iii. Francis Estes, b. 25 Nov 1873; d. 8 Aug 1874. More About Francis Estes: Burial: 8 Aug 1874, Gregory Cemetery, Ballardsville, Lee County, Mississippi iv. Judson A. Estes, b. 8 Sep 1875; d. 11 May 1876. More About Judson A. Estes: Burial: 11 May 1876, Gregory Cemetery, Ballardsville, Lee County, Mississippi 7. v. Emmett Estes, b. 25 Feb 1877, Mississippi; d. 1 May 1938, Priceville Cemetery, Tupelo, Lee County, Mississippi. vi. John E. Estes, b. Aug 1879, Lee County, Mississippi. 8. vii. Archie H. Estes, b. 1882, Mississippi. 4. Mary A.2 Estes (?1) was born 1838 in Alabama. She married Mann. He was born in South Carolina. More About Mary A. Estes: Date born 2: Abt. 1835 Child of Mary Estes and Mann is: i. Joshua A.3 Mann, b. 1863, Mississippi. Generation No. 3 5. Evans E.3 Estes (John C.2, ?1) was born 3 Jul 1845 in Alabama, and died 19 Sep 1929. He married Sarah C.. She was born 28 Sep 1853 in Mississippi, and died 17 Jun 1897. More About Evans E. Estes: Awards: Iron CSA Honor Cross Burial: 19 Sep 1929, Boguefala Cemetery, Lee County, Mississippi More About Sarah C.: Burial: 17 Jun 1897, Boguefala Cemetery, Lee County, Mississippi Children of Evans Estes and Sarah C. are: i. Waylie R.4 Estes, b. Abt. 1876, Lee County, Mississippi. ii. Addie Estes, b. Abt. 1878, Lee County, Mississippi. iii. Samuel D. Estes, b. Abt. 1879, Lee County, Mississippi. 6. Jeptha P.3 Estes (John C.2, ?1) was born 11 Apr 1846 in Lee County, Mississippi, and died 25 Mar 1932 in Lee County, Mississippi. He married (1) Margaret Ann Elizabeth Brooks 20 Dec 1876 in Lee County, Mississippi, daughter of John Brooks and Susan Buchanan. She was born 19 Sep 1858 in Itawamba County, Mississippi, and died 30 Sep 1895 in Lee County, Mississippi. He married (2) M. Jane Garrett Abt. 1898. She was born 30 Jan 1863, and died 12 Jan 1942. More About Jeptha P. Estes: Name 2: Japthia P. Estes Date born 2: 1853 Burial: 25 Mar 1932, Shiloh Cemetery, Lee County, Mississippi Military service: 15 Jan 1877, Confederate Veteran, 12th Mississippi Cavalry, Company A Notes for Margaret Ann Elizabeth Brooks: Itawamba County became Lee County in 1866. More About Margaret Ann Elizabeth Brooks: Burial: 30 Sep 1895, next to Mother (Susan) at Shiloh Cemetery More About Jeptha Estes and Margaret Brooks: Marriage 1: 20 Dec 1876, Lee County, Mississippi Marriage 2: 15 Jan 1877 More About M. Jane Garrett: Burial: 12 Jan 1942, Shiloh Cemetery, Lee County, Mississippi More About Jeptha Estes and M. Garrett: Marriage: Abt. 1898 Children of Jeptha Estes and Margaret Brooks are: i. William Walter4 Estes, b. 3 Dec 1877, Lee County, Mississippi; d. 25 Sep 1888, Shiloh Cemetery, Lee County, Mississippi. Notes for William Walter Estes: Walter Estes died at the age of 11. ii. John Cornelius Esters, b. 1 Sep 1879, Lee County, Mississippi; d. 1 Aug 1942, Harris Hospital, Ft. Worth, Texas; m. Mary Elizabeth Gillentine, 1904; b. Jan 1886, Mississippi. Notes for John Cornelius Esters: Descendants of John Cornelius Estes spell the surname Esters, as John C. Estes did not wish to be confused with another, unrelated Estes in his home territory near Lillian, Texas following his move from Maypearl, Texas. John C. Estes changed his name to avoid confusion with another unrelated Estes. More About John Cornelius Esters: Burial: 1 Aug 1942, Cope Cemetery, Johnson County, Texas More About Mary Elizabeth Gillentine: Burial: Cope Cemetery, Johnson County, Texas More About John Esters and Mary Gillentine: Marriage: 1904 iii. Alma Dell Estes, b. 10 Jul 1882, Lee County, Mississippi; d. 14 Jun 1972; m. (1) Anderson; m. (2) Elder; b. Abt. 1880; m. (3) Bohannon; m. (4) Robert R. Leard, 7 Apr 1907, Lee County, Mississippi; d. Bef. 1923; m. (5) Fred Ernest, Mar 1923; m. (6) D. B. Brown, 1930. More About Alma Dell Estes: Burial: 14 Jun 1972, Oakwood Cemetery, Cisco, Texas More About Robert Leard and Alma Estes: Marriage: 7 Apr 1907, Lee County, Mississippi More About Fred Ernest and Alma Estes: Marriage: Mar 1923 More About D. Brown and Alma Estes: Marriage: 1930 iv. Ila Jane Estes, b. 3 Jan 1885, Lee County, Mississippi; d. 1 Dec 1979, Waxahachie, Texas; m. W. L. Shippey, 1907, Maypearl, Ellis County, Texas. More About Ila Jane Estes: Burial: 1 Dec 1979, Waxahachie, Texas Residence: Texas Social Security Number: 4559-86-4799 SS# issued in: Texas ZIP last known residence: 75165 (Waxahachie, Texas) More About W. Shippey and Ila Estes: Marriage: 1907, Maypearl, Ellis County, Texas v. Willie Bob Estes, b. 28 Jul 1887, Lee County, Mississippi; d. 30 Sep 1888, Lee County, Mississippi. More About Willie Bob Estes: Burial: 30 Sep 1888, Shiloh Cemetery, Lee County, Mississippi vi. Odis James Estes, b. 12 May 1889, Lee County, Mississippi; d. Mar 1962, Ellis County, Texas; m. Rosetta Whitman. More About Odis James Estes: Burial: Mar 1962, Myrtle Cemetery, Ennis, Ellis County, Texas vii. Myrtle Estes, b. 30 Jan 1892; d. 5 Aug 1892. viii. Lunsford Edward Estes, b. 22 Oct 1894, Lee County, Mississippi; d. 13 May 1963, Memphis, Tennessee; m. Vercie Jane Millwood, 10 Jan 1922; b. 1 Feb 1898; d. 26 Jan 1991. More About Lunsford Edward Estes: Burial: 13 May 1963, Priceville Cemetery, East Tupelo, Mississippi More About Vercie Jane Millwood: Burial: 26 Jan 1991, Priceville Cemetery, East Tupelo, Mississippi Residence: 1987, Plantersville, Mississippi Social Security Number: 426-52-6929 SS# issued in: Mississippi More About Lunsford Estes and Vercie Millwood: Marriage: 10 Jan 1922 Children of Jeptha Estes and M. Garrett are: ix. Lena4 Estes, b. 24 May 1897. x. Della Estes, b. 8 Aug 1899; d. 31 Jul 1900. xi. Lucy Estes, b. 28 Oct 1900. 7. Emmett3 Estes (Sylvanus V.2, ?1) was born 25 Feb 1877 in Mississippi, and died 1 May 1938 in Priceville Cemetery, Tupelo, Lee County, Mississippi. He married Lillie Belle. She was born 18 May 1886 in Mississippi, and died 6 Jul 1966 in Mississippi. More About Lillie Belle: Burial: 6 Jul 1966, Priceville Cemetery, Tupelo, Lee County, Mississippi Children of Emmett Estes and Lillie Belle are: i. Mamiola4 Estes, b. 30 Jun 1901; d. 28 Feb 1904, Lee County, Mississippi. More About Mamiola Estes: Burial: 28 Feb 1904, Priceville Cemetery, Tupelo, Lee County, Mississippi ii. Vardaman Estes, b. 1906, Lee County, Mississippi. iii. Henry Clay Estes, b. 3 May 1907, Lee County, Mississippi; d. 6 Apr 1960, Lee County, Mississippi; m. Lula Franks; b. 1 Apr 1910. More About Henry Clay Estes: Burial: 6 Apr 1960, Priceville Cemetery, Tupelo, Lee County, Mississippi iv. Naomi Estes, b. 30 Jun 1909; d. 28 Feb 1918, Lee County, Mississippi. More About Naomi Estes: Burial: 28 Feb 1918, Priceville Cemetery, Tupelo, Lee County, Mississippi v. Birdie M. Estes, b. 1912, Lee County, Mississippi. vi. Walter Estes, b. 27 Feb 1916; d. 21 Mar 1916, Lee County, Mississippi. More About Walter Estes: Burial: 21 Mar 1916, Priceville Cemetery, Tupelo, Lee County, Mississippi vii. Leon A. Estes, b. 1920, Lee County, Mississippi. 8. Archie H.3 Estes (Sylvanus V.2, ?1) was born 1882 in Mississippi. He married Lillian Inez. She was born 1897 in Mississippi. Children of Archie Estes and Lillian Inez are: i. Fred4 Estes, b. 1917, Lee County, Mississippi. ii. Holden C. Estes, b. 1919, Lee County, Mississippi.

G'day folks, Got the following query today. Anyone shed light on it? If so, please email me and I'll pass it on. Cheers, David. > Anne Brown wrote: > Do you have anything on an ESTES who married Ozella HAM CANTELOU? > Ozella was my great aunt and I have been looking for information on > her second husband, an Unknown ESTES. She was born in Columbus, GA 23, > Sept 1875. Her first husband was John Rainsford Cantelou Jr. After his > death, she married Mr. Estes. I know they were not living in Columbus > when she died. I believe they were in AL. Her cemetery records say she > died in 1922, but I know this is not correct, as my Aunt Maggie, who > was born in 1924, remembers her. -- The universe is not only queerer that we imagine, it is queerer than we *can* imagine - J. B. S. Haldane DC2.D A+++! L^ Pfwl Bfl Fo R+++! Ac+ J-- S++ Fr+++! I+ H++ $ M V+++ Cag http://xenon.triode.net.au/~dragon mailto:dragon@triode.net.au

Hello Everyone: I am looking for Deanna Carter's email address in regards to ESTES in Hickman County, TN. Thank you in advance. Robbie Meadows-O'Brien

G'day folks, Anyone shed some light on ths chap? > Looking for info on James Estes b.1780 Abington Washington Co. VA > d.???? Married - Martha Schooler -- Vet of 1812 under Gen. Shelby > -- Son Benjamin Caswell cheers, David. -- The universe is not only queerer that we imagine, it is queerer than we *can* imagine - J. B. S. Haldane DC2.D A+++! L^ Pfwl Bfl Fo R+++! Ac+ J-- S++ Fr+++! I+ H++ $ M V+++ Cag http://xenon.triode.net.au/~dragon mailto:dragon@triode.net.au

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Hi! Listers, Does anyone know the particulars on a book written at least 20- 30 years ago about the Estes family (? of Virginia) by an Estes? Apparently it was published by the Tuttle Co. of Boston. Thanks. Wallace Smith in New Orleans

I am looking for people who would be interested in helping me gather information for a publication on various lines of families that I am researching: Barton, Cobb/s, Cooper, Dilley, Estes, Gilpin, Givens, Gove, Jolly, Lippincott, McCoy, Schramm, and Shinn. Some of you have been in contact with me previously and have been very helpful. I am calling you all again to see if anyone has updated information and side branches that I can add to my research. A list, GEDCOM, and/or copies of you resources and documentation will be a start. Feel free to contact me to determine where you might fit in and I will willing share all information I have or gather. As you can see from the list of names I am researching my family lines have traveled from England, France, Germany, Ireland, and Scotland. And I would like to gather together a history of a true American history from all the people, areas and countries involved. Amy

G'day folks, Anyone able to shed some light on the following? Either Catherine/Caroline or her suggested aprents, William and Elizabeth. I can't identify any of them. Thanks, David. -------- Original Message -------- I have a Catherine (Caroline) Estes married to John J Richardson 17feb1850 Lauderdale Co, Al. She was b. 1832-1835 (Al-NC) d. 1905/1910 ? probably Kaufman Co, Tx. I found a family in Lauderdale Co, Al. census that maybe hers: William Estice b. abt 1798 SC m. Elizabeth b. abt 1798 SC children: Garland b. 1816 SC William Jr b. 1825 Ga Jasper b. 1823 Ga. James b. 1829 Tn Catherine b. 1835 Al Joel b. 1836 Al Martha b. 1838 Al John b. 1840 Al.

This is a repeat query, wanted to add who about and place in subject. Christopher Columbus Estes b. 1 Jun 1866 Lebanon, Wilson Co., TN. d. 29 Nov 1932 Gower, Clinton Co., MO. m. Nancy Ellen Gabhart, b. 16 Jul 1876 Lexington, KY., d. 28 Nov 1956 Bolckow, Andrew Co., MO. m. on 11 Jul 1893 in KY. He had two half sisters a Lucy Estes who married a Joe White ? and Alice Estes, and a half brother, unknown name. Only info I have ever gotten from any of the Estes family is as follows: Christopher's mother died when he was 9 yrs. old. Christopher "Lum" and Nancy did not like MO. They often said if they had had the money they would have gone straight back the next day to KY. It was said that the grand mother of Lum was a full blooded Blackfoot Indian squaw. Their children, Sherman Estes was b. 16 Feb 1895 Campbellsville, KY, Clarence Estes, b. 11 Mar 1897 Lebanon, KY., daughter Estes b. & d. 5 May 1898-1902 Whitesville, MO., Louis Estes b. 29 Jun 1903 Whitesville, MO., Walter Robert Estes b. 30 Jan 1910 Whitesville, MO., twins Ruby and Robert Estes, b. 24 Aug 1915 Guilford, MO. Robert died 17 Sept 1915. Does any one know ANYTHING about this man and woman? I have not found any thing after many years of hunting. Any help would be FANTASTIC. This is my husband's grandfather and grandmother.

Hi Everyone! Happy New Year! This suggestion is not only for new family history researchers but it also serves to jiggle the minds of us old timers too! Let's all make a resolution to help eliminate errors in our family history In December 1999, I wrote the following article to help increase the awareness of the many pitfalls found in genealogical resources. I am submitting this again to remind us all of our responsibilities toward perpetuating the truth and accuracy in our historical records. (Reprint) HOW ACCURATE ARE OUR RECORDS? By LeRoy F. Eastes 3 December 1999 When we record our heritage we take great pride in looking at our list of ancestors and admire their origins, migrations and accomplishments. But, what good is it - unless it's true? In recent years there are more and more genealogical assumptions and misleading information being circulated due the coming of the internet. I know most of it is unintentional, as I have found myself guilty of doing the same thing in the past. This innocent practice comes about by picking up information that is not documented or if it is we don't check the validity of the references. Then with all good intentions, we record it and pass it on not knowing if it is true or not! An element of error has always existed in genealogical research. If we look closely at public documents, errors have been found in almost every type of legal record that ever existed. Wills, marriage, birth, land, court and military records. Many times these are the results of human error but some have been intentionally induced for a variety of personal reasons. The coming of the internet has been a great boon for genealogical research. At the same time it's multiplying errors and is out of control like a contagious disease. There are many individuals and organizations that collect files from donors everywhere they can be found, which in itself is fine. Unfortunately, not all of these records are correct. Many do not show any documentation, others are found with misleading and often inaccurate information and references. Also unfortunately, some researchers are too eager to grab the first thing that "sounds reasonable" and treat it as a gospel fact. These records are copied by the unwary, passed on to an untold number of others, accepted as fact and the problem is perpetuated into the future. . There is nothing wrong with recording and passing along estimates of dates, places and even theories and stories. This is where we find the key elements that lead to the true picture of the past. However, information of this nature must be recognized and treated as such by all of us. This is a very serious problem and recognized by the National Genealogical Society. They felt it to so important they published a Special Edition to their quarterly publication, titled, "Evidence" - Volume 87, 3 September 1999. The following are the Standards recommend by the Society and can be found on the internet at - http://www.ngsgenealogy.org/ (I suggest everyone take a look at Consumer Relations while on this site) Standards For Sound Genealogical Research (Recommended by the National Genealogical Society) Remembering always that they are engaged in a quest for truth, family history researchers consistently - - record the source for each item of information they collect. - test every hypothesis or theory against credible evidence, and reject those that are not supported by the evidence. - seek original records, or reproduced images of them when there is reasonable assurance they have not been altered, as the basis for their research conclusions. - use compilations, communications and published works, whether paper or electronic, primarily for their value as guides to locating the original records. - state something as a fact only when it is supported by convincing evidence, and identify the evidence when communicating the fact to others. - limit with words like "probable" or "possible" any statement that is based on less than convincing evidence, and state the reasons for concluding that it is probable or possible. - avoid misleading other researchers by either intentionally or carelessly distributing or publishing inaccurate information. - state carefully and honestly the results of their own research, and acknowledge all use of others work. - recognize the collegial nature of genealogical research by making their work available to others through publication, or by placing copies in appropriate libraries or repositories, and by welcoming critical comment. - consider with open minds new evidence or the comments of others on their work and the conclusions they have reached. ©1997 by National Genealogical Society. Permission is granted to copy or publish this material provided it is reproduced in its entirety, including this notice This is followed by two more sections titled: - Standards for Using Records Repositories And Libraries. - Standards For Use Of Technology In Genealogical Research. I encourage everyone to consider these guide lines. All of us who are searching for our ancestors should make an attempt to minimize the possibility of errors. If we don't, our children's children will be led down false trails and they will never be able to find their true heritage. Le Roy F. Eastes Ph (228) 832-2214 17271 Lowery Rd Gulfport, MS 39503 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we record our heritage we take great pride in looking at our list of ancestors and admire their origins, migrations and accomplishments. But, what good is it - unless it’s true? We need stories and rumors, they are great and often lead to the truth! BUT - Help eliminate errors. Don't take anything as Fact! Check references for validity! If we don’t our children’s children will be led down false trails and they will never be able to find their true heritage.

Christopher Columbus Estes b. 1 Jun 1866 Lebanon, Wilson Co., TN. d. 29 Nov 1932 Gower, Clinton Co., MO. m. Nancy Ellen Gabhart, b. 16 Jul 1876 Lexington, KY., d. 28 Nov 1956 Bolckow, Andrew Co., MO. m. on 11 Jul 1893 in KY. He had two half sisters a Lucy Estes who married a Joe White ? and Alice Estes, and a half brother, unknown name. Only info I have ever gotten from any of the Estes family is as follows: Christopher's mother died when he was 9 yrs. old. Christopher "Lum" and Nancy did not like MO. They often said if they had had the money they would have gone straight back the next day to KY. It was said that the grand mother of Lum was a full blooded Blackfoot Indian squaw. Their children, Sherman Estes was b. 16 Feb 1895 Campbellsville, KY, Clarence Estes, b. 11 Mar 1897 Lebanon, KY., daughter Estes b. & d. 5 May 1898-1902 Whitesville, MO., Louis Estes b. 29 Jun 1903 Whitesville, MO., Walter Robert Estes b. 30 Jan 1910 Whitesville, MO., twins Ruby and Robert Estes, b. 24 Aug 1915 Guilford, MO. Robert died 17 Sept 1915. Does any one know ANYTHING about this man and woman? I have not found any thing after many years of hunting. Any help would be FANTASTIC. This is my husband's grandfather and grandmother.

Merle Whitney wrote: > > It has been brought to my attion that BROCK may not be the madian name > for Abrahams wife Barbara. Let mee restate my quiry. It's likely it was .. just that there's no conclusive proof .. and at this stage there likely is none to be found. :( > Estes Trails July 1988 Page 18 > John ESTES, cont. SPOTTSYLVANIA COUNTY RECORDS KES Records > p.367-18 July 1781 Will of Henry BROCK, wf. Barbara (Estes,dgtr. of > Abraham) Witnesses:Jns. Estes, Jos. Brock, Edwd. Herndon. > > Because of this and another entry that discussious wheither Barbara, > Abrahams wife was the daughter of a BROCK or not. I can see why there is > some doubt. More questions. Was there a BROCK relationship at all? Was > the daughter of Abraham,(Barbara) married to a BROCK? Yes, Abraham did have a daughter, Barbara. And she did marry a Brock: : . . Barbara/Barbery ESTES (1719-1793) of K&Q Co, VA; d.Spotsylvania Co, VA : . . +Henry BROCK (?-1763),Spotsylvania Co, VA : . . . Joseph BROCK of Spotsylvania Co, VA [174] : . . . Mary BROCK of Spotsylvania Co, VA [174] : . . . Hannah BROCK of Spotsylvania Co, VA [174] : . . . Elizabeth BROCK of Spotsylvania Co, VA [174] : . . . Henry BROCK of Spotsylvania Co, VA [174] : . . . John BROCK of Spotsylvania Co, VA [174] > Who is Abrahams WIFE? Definitely also a Barbara. She made a will in 1720 and died some time latter. In the 1740's, I think. cheers, David. -- The universe is not only queerer that we imagine, it is queerer than we *can* imagine - J. B. S. Haldane DC2.D A+++! L^ Pfwl Bfl Fo R+++! Ac+ J-- S++ Fr+++! I+ H++ $ M V+++ Cag http://xenon.triode.net.au/~dragon mailto:dragon@triode.net.au

Confederate Pensions Applied for in TX: Claimant; Application # ; County; Husband; Husb's Application # Estes, Alice; 49231; Harris; Estes, Benjamin Triplette Estes, Bradford F.; 12333; Denton Estes, Cathern; 09317; Parker; Estes, William A. Estes, E. B.; 23572; Winkler Estes, Edward Albert; 00481; Bowie Estes, Hattie C.; 28763; Caldwell; Estes, Thomas Jefferson Estes, J. R.; 37321; Wood Estes, James William; 24739; Bell Estes, John; 20258; El Paso Estes, Joseph Lafayette; 35604; Jones Estes, Josephine R.; 50251; Gonzales; Estes, Joseph Henry Estes, Kate; 35956; Callahan; Estes, Joseph Lafayette; 35604 Estes, L. J. (Mrs); 16501; Shelby; Estes, Matthew Cartwright Estes, Leula; 35942; Bowie; Estes, Edward Albert; 00481 Estes, M. M. (Mrs); 42939; Grayson; Estes, Jasper Estes, Marian; 24989; Cooke Estes, Mary A.; 37486; Wood; Estes, J. R.; 37321 Estes, Mary Ann; 46583; Bowie; Estes, John Bennett Estes, Mary Jane; 23973; Hill; Estes, Robert Scott Estes, Miles Joseph; 45002; Eastland Estes, N. E. (Mrs); 23191; Rusk; Estes, Mathew Estes, Newton; 09028; Grayson Estes, R. Y.; rejected; Bosque Estes, Sallie; 31809; Van Zandt; Estes, Ruben Estes, Susan; 45486; Dallas; Estes, Lewis Estes, T. J.; 00120; Austin Kilpatrick, Erma Estes; 45639; Dallas; Estes, Leonard This info is given by the TX Archives if you want to request copies: A Photocopy of a Confederate Pension Application File can be obtained by e-mailing your request to <archinfo@tsl.state.tx.us> Due to the high demand for photocopies, we ask you to please limit each request to no more than 10 pension applications per week. Be sure to include the Pensioner's Name, Pension Number (or Rejected or Home designation), as well as your own name and complete mailing address. Please allow 6 to 8 weeks for delivery of your copies. I Need to Know How Much Photocopies Are. Photocopies are invoiced at $.10 per page for letter- and legal-sized copies, plus postage. Ledger-sized paper is $.50 per page, plus postage. There is a $1.00 minimum charge and an invoice will be sent with your copies. ------------- RootsNut@aol.com