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    1. [Ess] Help needed identifying church
    2. La Greenall
    3. Can anyone help identify a church from an interior view please? It is supposed to be in Essex but may not be. The most striking feature is that its is very large, more like a cathedral than a humble parish church. I've uploaded a photo to the web if anyone cares to have a look: http://www.flickr.com/photos/prastagus/8182322561/ All I know for certain is that the pulpit which can be seen in the photo was commissioned from William Burges in 1876 by Elizabeth, the widow of Captain Samuel Bolton Edenborough, West Essex Yeomen Cavalry, a London woolbroker and director of the Imperial Bank (1804-73), in his memory. It was carved in marble by a Peter White of Vauxhall Bridge Road, London, and installed in the parish church at Waltham Abbey, Essex (which is not the church in the photo). Waltham Abbey church's altar and reredos were also commissioned from William Burges by Mrs. Edenborough as part of her husband's memorial. They are still present, but the pulpit was taken down, probably in the mid 1960s, and the old wooden 1658 pulpit it originally replaced was put back up, and is still standing today. The marble Edenborough pulpit then found a temporary new home in the unknown church, as shown in the photo which probably dates to the 1980s or very early 1990s (it was acquired in 1993). Since then, this pulpit was removed from the unknown church and is currently stored in Epping Forest District Museum's collection. They would very much like to know the identity of the unknown church, and any help would be much appreciated. Elizabeth was Samuel's second wife; her maiden name was Guild and they married at Chelsea in 1851. He married his first wife Harriet Berridge (c.1817-49) in the Edmonton RD (possibly Enfield?) in 1845. They had a daughter "Minna" Edenborough (FreeBMD wrongly has "Mirma") in 1846, who (as Mina, a pet form of Wilhelmina) married Henry Wilson Demain Saunders (1822-88) in 1871. His first wife's father was the Birmingham MP Thomas Attwood (1831 Reform Bill). Mina and Henry had a daughter Constance in 1871, who was all set to marry Arthur Henry Kingsley, a nephew of Charles Kingsley - but when Mina became a widow in 1888 Arthur surprised everyone by marrying her instead of her daughter! Arthur and Mina settled at Brickendon, Herts, where they were great local benefactors and are fondly remembered today. Constance Saunders seems not to have married, but was a magistrate and a governor of the Monoux school in Walthamstow, a genealogist, vice president of East Herts. Archaeology Society, and chairman of Brickendon Parish Council 1931-1945. [Thanks to my friend Grenville Weltch whose book Lifetimes of Achievement was the source for much of this.] If it helps identification of the church, a few architectural details can be described from the photo, as follows (though I'm no expert at this!): Notable semi-octagonal eastern apse, each face having one tall slender single lancet window and a triple-arched sedilia-like blind arcade below; Seems to have transepts (i.e. possibly a central crossing and central tower?); Sanctuary arch / central crossing pillars have 8 shafts each; very wide central aisle (10 feet?). Thanks in advance for any help you can give - we've run out of local 'experts'! Lawrence.

    11/13/2012 09:02:00
    1. Re: [Ess] Help needed identifying church
    2. Steve
    3. Have you looked at/contacted http://www.essexchurches.info/ ?? Steve On 13/11/2012 16:02, La Greenall wrote: > Can anyone help identify a church from an interior view please? It is > supposed to be in Essex but may not be. The most striking feature is > that its is very large, more like a cathedral than a humble parish > church. I've uploaded a photo to the web if anyone cares to have a look: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/prastagus/8182322561/ > > All I know for certain is that the pulpit which can be seen in the photo > was commissioned from William Burges in 1876 by Elizabeth, the widow of > Captain Samuel Bolton Edenborough, West Essex Yeomen Cavalry, a London > woolbroker and director of the Imperial Bank (1804-73), in his memory. > It was carved in marble by a Peter White of Vauxhall Bridge Road, > London, and installed in the parish church at Waltham Abbey, Essex > (which is not the church in the photo). > > Waltham Abbey church's altar and reredos were also commissioned from > William Burges by Mrs. Edenborough as part of her husband's memorial. > They are still present, but the pulpit was taken down, probably in the > mid 1960s, and the old wooden 1658 pulpit it originally replaced was put > back up, and is still standing today. The marble Edenborough pulpit then > found a temporary new home in the unknown church, as shown in the photo > which probably dates to the 1980s or very early 1990s (it was acquired > in 1993). > > Since then, this pulpit was removed from the unknown church and is > currently stored in Epping Forest District Museum's collection. They > would very much like to know the identity of the unknown church, and any > help would be much appreciated. > > Elizabeth was Samuel's second wife; her maiden name was Guild and they > married at Chelsea in 1851. He married his first wife Harriet Berridge > (c.1817-49) in the Edmonton RD (possibly Enfield?) in 1845. > > They had a daughter "Minna" Edenborough (FreeBMD wrongly has "Mirma") in > 1846, who (as Mina, a pet form of Wilhelmina) married Henry Wilson > Demain Saunders (1822-88) in 1871. His first wife's father was the > Birmingham MP Thomas Attwood (1831 Reform Bill). > > Mina and Henry had a daughter Constance in 1871, who was all set to > marry Arthur Henry Kingsley, a nephew of Charles Kingsley - but when > Mina became a widow in 1888 Arthur surprised everyone by marrying her > instead of her daughter! Arthur and Mina settled at Brickendon, Herts, > where they were great local benefactors and are fondly remembered today. > > Constance Saunders seems not to have married, but was a magistrate and a > governor of the Monoux school in Walthamstow, a genealogist, vice > president of East Herts. Archaeology Society, and chairman of Brickendon > Parish Council 1931-1945. > > [Thanks to my friend Grenville Weltch whose book Lifetimes of > Achievement was the source for much of this.] > > If it helps identification of the church, a few architectural details > can be described from the photo, as follows (though I'm no expert at > this!): > > Notable semi-octagonal eastern apse, each face having one tall slender > single lancet window and a triple-arched sedilia-like blind arcade below; > Seems to have transepts (i.e. possibly a central crossing and central > tower?); > Sanctuary arch / central crossing pillars have 8 shafts each; > very wide central aisle (10 feet?). > > Thanks in advance for any help you can give - we've run out of local > 'experts'! > > Lawrence. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/13/2012 09:16:52
    1. Re: [Ess] Help needed identifying church
    2. Paul Parker
    3. Hi, I Googled "Pulpit + William + Burges" and came up with many entries, most of which mean little to me as regards location; however one which caught my attention was http://list.english-heritage.org.uk/resultsingle.aspx?uid=1403249 re the church of St John The Baptist, Outwood, Tandridge, Surrey, which has an octagonal pulpit (but no photo). This might give you some more search suggestions. Paul Parker, Auckland NZ

    11/14/2012 02:51:18