On 15/11/2012 2:04 PM, La Greenall wrote: > John, this is excellent; thankyou. especially for the insight into the > service. I was drawn to the hymboard many times but couldn't put my > finger on why - silly sausage I am! > > Glynis also suggested the faculties kept at ERO and I've been through > them with no luck, but didn't realise there was a cut-off date of 1963 > on their holdings. Good! I will follow this up if other easier leads > fail. > > WA church surprisingly cannot help! I fear their current team are all > just too young. I knew some parishioners closely involved in church > affairs who would certainly have known the answer, but they've all > passed away in the last year or two. Waltham Abbey should have its PCC minutes and annual reports: but they may have deposited with the ERO. If you have a year when the old pulpit was put back, there may be a news report for the re-dedication of the restored pulpit and possibly some news item on the proposed restoration - either of which may mention what happened to the Burges pulpit. Kind regards, John > > I too have always thought it was most likely a church in London or > Essex, possibly even in both as you say. Just no guarantees that it is! > > Lawrence > > On 15/11/2012 13:42, johnfhhgen wrote: >> >> Hi Lawrence, >> Studying the photo carefully would suggest that this is an evening >> confirmation service, perhaps mainly for a school.. A chair has been >> placed before the altar for the actual confirmation, a white haired >> figure flanked by two black cassocked figures [servers?] appears to >> be wearing a cope and if this is a confirmation would be the bishop, >> at the front left. Other clergy with red stoles are behind the altar. >> The old high altar at the east end has been coverted into a weekday >> chapel. At the extrem bottom of the photo can be seen the cruet &c >> ready for the offertory procession. I suspect this photograph has >> been taken at the beginning of the service, just after after the >> entry procession. The lectern between the two candles is for reading >> the epistle and gospel. It appears that a special service booklet has >> been produced for the occasion (no hymn numbers on board). . >> The choir is at the front right (red cassocks), conducted by a >> gentleman in a suit. A mystery is the collection of red objects >> (books?) on the altar, perhaps for presentation to the confirmation >> candidates. >> The re-ordering of the chancel with an additional nave altar and >> abandonment of the high altar and communion rail would date from the >> late '60s or 1970s, possible later. >> >> The removal of the pulpit from Waltham Abbey would have needed a >> faculty, and so would the church receiving it. SEAX have faculties >> searchable online up to 1963, so it would appear to be later. >> Chelmsford Diocesan Registry might be able to help, as should Waltham >> Abbey itself, as there should be a reference in the PCC mnutes or >> annual reports to the re-ordering which led to the re-instatement of >> the original pulpit. >> >> Although not St Andrew's Plaistow. (see photos of this online), given >> the cuurent location of the pulpit, I wouls suggest that itis one of >> the large Victorian churches built in S.E.Essex for "London over the >> border". It may have been closed and demolished/put to other use >> since this photo was taken. Thewre should also be a faculty for the >> pulpit's removal from this church or for ther demolition of this church. >> >> Of course, as you say, it may have gone to any part of the country >> and returned to the museum because of the original Waltham >> connection, but I would be inclined to begin with nearest churches, >> then consider other Victorian churches in the Chelmsford Diocese .... >> Chelmsford, Colchester, Southend..... >> >> HTH >> John Henley >> >> > >