Jenny How reliable is the source for his death? I wonder if you were able to follow up the suggestions that were made last time you posted on this? http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ESSEX-UK/2011-09/131718520 6 HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jenny I am throwing out the net once more to see if anyone can help with the following Charles Valentine KNAPP Born: 14 Feb 1846 Ilford Essex Died: 1 Jan 1882 Ilford Essex Parents: Arthur Wilson KNAPP and Catherine (Kate) FAIRES I can not find a reference to a death certificate. Do I have to approach some parish for their records. None of my family knew of this little one and I would like to find out about him. The next child was born Great Ilford Essex and he was the last so they didn't move out of Essex. Not sure what the difference is between Great Ilford and just plain Ilford. Look forward to some suggestions Many thanks Jenny in OZ