And don't assume that 1801 is correct. One relative could have provided his age both for the death certificate and for the memorial, and they could have been suffering from 'human error' - a disease that was rife in those days, and even with modern medicine, still is today. Once you've followed Caroline's advice and visited SEAX, do a thorough study of all entries for people of the same surname over say 20 years either side of 1800, and build up a picture of all their relationships, enabling you to see if there was only one family of that name there at that time, or if there was more than one family. In which case you'll need to research all of them to be sure of which one your man belonged to. Don't forget that not everyone was christened where they were born. Hatfield Pev is in a charming part of Essex (once you get away from the A12). I often have to drive my truck through thereabouts to collect Shaken Udder yoghurts from Wicks Manor Farm in Tolleshunt Major. Some drive! All the piggy-wiggys start chattering when I arrive, and snuffle up to me. I then have to change my clothes. No, the yoghurt is not made from pigs' milk. Neither are the famous Wicks Manor sausages. Lawrence On 13/04/2013 02:05, david moss wrote: > Here I am, back again after a long time and still with much the same > problem. James Moss death certificate says he died 20th October 1859 > registration district Rochford, aged 58 years (confirmed on his grave > marker in Great Stambridge Parish churchyard) therefore birth date would be > 1801. Census 1851 says he was born in Hatfield (probably Peverel). After > looking everywhere I can think of, I still cannot find his birth > certificate so I can get his parents and make some progress. So > frustrating! Please, can anyone help? I have received a lot of > information from mailing listers in the past, but I believe I must have his > birth certificate in order to not continue on guesswork. Anyone with any > advice? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > . >

Thanks Lawrence, for your sage advice and personal interjections. I treasure childhood memories of my father and I accompanying a lorry driver friend of his, early in the morning. We went from farm to farm in south-eastern Essex, collecting churns of milk, . I did not hear of yoghurt, let alone taste it, until many years later, although I understand that it was first commercially produced in Europe in 1919 - but ,I digress..... Peter Moll Tortola, BVI On 13 April 2013 04:43, La Greenall <eldeworth@googlemail.com> wrote: > And don't assume that 1801 is correct. One relative could have provided > his age both for the death certificate and for the memorial, and they > could have been suffering from 'human error' - a disease that was rife > in those days, and even with modern medicine, still is today. > > Once you've followed Caroline's advice and visited SEAX, do a thorough > study of all entries for people of the same surname over say 20 years > either side of 1800, and build up a picture of all their relationships, > enabling you to see if there was only one family of that name there at > that time, or if there was more than one family. In which case you'll > need to research all of them to be sure of which one your man belonged to. > > Don't forget that not everyone was christened where they were born. > > Hatfield Pev is in a charming part of Essex (once you get away from the > A12). I often have to drive my truck through thereabouts to collect > Shaken Udder yoghurts from Wicks Manor Farm in Tolleshunt Major. Some > drive! All the piggy-wiggys start chattering when I arrive, and snuffle > up to me. I then have to change my clothes. No, the yoghurt is not made > from pigs' milk. Neither are the famous Wicks Manor sausages. > > Lawrence > > > > On 13/04/2013 02:05, david moss wrote: > > Here I am, back again after a long time and still with much the same > > problem. James Moss death certificate says he died 20th October 1859 > > registration district Rochford, aged 58 years (confirmed on his grave > > marker in Great Stambridge Parish churchyard) therefore birth date would > be > > 1801. Census 1851 says he was born in Hatfield (probably Peverel). > After > > looking everywhere I can think of, I still cannot find his birth > > certificate so I can get his parents and make some progress. So > > frustrating! Please, can anyone help? I have received a lot of > > information from mailing listers in the past, but I believe I must have > his > > birth certificate in order to not continue on guesswork. Anyone with any > > advice? > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > . > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >