Thank you Lawrence, Shirley and David for your comments. I agree, the fishermen did move around the country, following the best fishing area's, and seeking high wages and better conditions. I know of a fisherman who came to Grimsby from Southend on Sea. With John SMITH, that wasnt the case. I am doing this research for a surprise retirement present for our son in law who is an Essex man. I have followed his four great grandparents surnames they have all lived in either Essex or Suffolk, the earliest date I have achieved is 1540 with a marriage. The surnames are SMITH, BRIDGE, and DENNY, the fourth being ROBERTS, which did have London connections. David thank you for the link to the National Archives re Smith Bros of Burnham on Crouch, I have asked for an estimate to have the article sent to me, it is not online. You never know. Thanks everybody Pat in Grimsby, Lincs ________________________________ From: "essex-uk-request@rootsweb.com" <essex-uk-request@rootsweb.com> To: essex-uk@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 23 June 2013, 8:00 Subject: ESSEX-UK Digest, Vol 8, Issue 107 ----- Forwarded Message ----- This Essex-UK digest is now sent to you from RootsWeb using new software. There are two forms for the digest MIME or Plain Text. To receive the digest in the other format, please contact the list admin at < Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > and specify which format you would prefer. You can confirm which format you are current receiving by looking at the full headers of this message. Plain Text Digest are "Content-Type: text/plain;" and MIME digests are "Content-Type: multipart/mixed;". The way that a digest looks is very much the function of the e-mail system that is being used to read the message. When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. To send a new message to the list send it to Essex-UK@rootsweb.com Today's Topics: 1. Re: ESSEX-UK Digest, Vol 8, Issue 106 (Dave Dobbin) The National Archives have some Board of Trade papers at http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C2150916 The Description reads: "River Roach at Paglesham: oyster and mussel fishery; Smith Bros (Burnham-on-Crouch) Ltd" and the papers appear to refer to the periond 18723 to 1946. So perhaps they just moved across the river to Burnham - or this may just be a red herring? DaveD -----Original Message----- From: essex-uk-request <essex-uk-request@rootsweb.com> From: Pat Cook <paver207@yahoo.co.uk> To: Essex-UK@rootsweb.com <Essex-UK@rootsweb.com> Subject: [Ess] John SMITH brick wall poss Paglesham, Essex Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 18:03:44 +0100 (BST) John SMITH marries 2 July 1783 Paglesham, Essex by Licence. He is a Bachelor, his wife Anne MIALL is a spinster. Both signed with X. Withnesses were Henry BECKWITH and Thomas BETTS who both S.I have only found one child Jonathan SMITH bapt 27 November 1796 Paglesham,The family are Oyster Dredgers and Fishermen at Pagles for about 200 years.I am stuck with John's baptism and his parents.So far havnt been able to find his origins on Ancestry, IGI etc, any help or suggestions welcome.Pat in Grimsby, Lincs To contact the ESSEX-UK list administrator, send an email to ESSEX-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the ESSEX-UK mailing list, send an email to ESSEX-UK@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text.