Good morning John Henley I have misplaced your email address so responding via the List Thank you so much for all the work that you have done in helping me with William Hyde KNAPP. I took your advice and wrote to the List with what information I now have for William Hyde KNAPP. As far as bones go I am only missing where he is buried, did the infirmary bury their dead in a graveyard attached to the institution? As I mentioned in my last message to the List, I have not looked, in detail, at any other generation for fear of becoming muddled. The census list for William KNAPP that you sent to me, I have now ascertained, that we are looking at William Hyde's first born child William born c 1838. Not William Hyde the father. You have now opened a Jack in the Box as I have not gone this far with my research. My line comes from his brother Arthur who you mention in the 1841 census. So I now know that hard times have fallen on William Hyde's son William and that he followed in his father's footsteps. William Hyde KNAPP married Susannah WILSON in Kent and so William born c 1838 stating his birth place as Kent would seem correct. Another son George was born c1839 Finsbury and then the next born Arthur Wilson KNAPP was born 24 Aug 1840 Hoxton. I found very puzzling, your following information , "However, the William KNAPP in the Infirmary appears to be also there as a patient in 1891, a House Decorator age 53, giving a birth of 1838, born Hackney." This seems to be a mixture of William HYDE and William Jr. John I can't imagine how you managed to obtain so much information however thank you so much. I hope that I can refer back to you as I press on to the next generation. Please let me know if you can think of ways for me to further my research. Warm wishes.........Jenny