Dear List You are indeed a dear list. The amount of information that is flowing in is amazing and thank you all so much. I will reply to you all off List. To update, I have all the bones of William Hyde KNAPP born Hoxton 17 Aug 1816; baptised 2 Oct 1816 St Leonard's Shoreditch; died 13 Aug 1892 Hackney Union Infirmary. I have his marriage to Susannah Wilson 14 Dec 1836 St John Eltham Kent and a list of his nine children. When the third child Arthur Wilson KNAPP was born the family was in 17Gloucester Row Gloucester Street Hoxton. I am reserving all suggested information for his son Arthur Wilson KNAPP until I am happy that I have done all the research that I can for William Hyde KNAPP otherwise I become confused and dizzy and then make mistakes. Thank you so much List Jenny (Australia)