Hi Sally-Ann The boundary between Essex and London is the River Lea, many of the pre 1974 parishes that bordered on London are now in London but all those (now) East London parishes (e.g. West Ham, East Ham, Ilford, etc) that were in Essex have their records at the Essex Record Office. All other London parishes (apart from the City of London and the City of Westminster) are at the London Metropolitan Archives. City of London records are at the Guildhall and city of Westminster records are in the City of Westminster Record Office. Hope that helps best wishes Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sally-Ann Jay" <sally-ann@chairwoman.plus.com> To: <Dianadiluca@aol.com> Cc: <essex-uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:29 AM Subject: Re: [Ess] Hello & a JAY query... > Hi Diana > > > > I put my tree on Ancestry a while ago but my membership has lapsed so I > don't have access anymore. this doesn't sound like my tree, tho as I only > have details of Henry's & Martha's marriages. > > > > I am confused by not being able to find any of them on the 1861 census. I > would also like to find details of George's birth. Not quite sure how to > do > this as to date all my searches have been online. I am hoping to spend > some > time at the Essex Records Office in Chelmsford soon; does anyone have any > guidance? > > > > I am also confused as to where and when the boundaries are/were drawn > between East London and Essex. Some of the areas I'm looking at used to be > Essex but are now London and I'm having difficulty working out where the > records are kept now. Any enlightenment would be gratefully received. > > > > Regards > > > > Sally-Ann > > Greenham, Berkshire > > > > _____ > > From: Dianadiluca@aol.com [mailto:Dianadiluca@aol.com] > Sent: 01 July 2008 10:58 > To: sally-ann@chairwoman.plus.com > Cc: essex-uk@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Ess] Hello & a JAY query... > > > > Hi Sally Ann, > > > > There is a large family tree on Ancestry that has George and Hannah on > there > plus details of all their children and who they married etc. Have you got > this information already? > > > > Regards > > > > Diana > > > > Re: > > I now have a stumbling block in the above mentioned relative & his family. > His name was George James JAY who worked as a bricklayer, son of Henry, a > butcher, (date & place of birth/residence unknown - information from > George's marriage certificate where he is listed as a witness). I have > found no trace of Henry. George is on the 1841 Census in Romford, lodging > with his future wife's family, Hannah (HOMSTEAD/HORNSTEAD - there's > another > story..), they got married in 1841 in St George in the East and in 1851 he > is in Auction /Austin Place, Angel Lane, Stratford. I can find no trace > of > the family in 1861. By 1871 all his children (Roberta, Hornstead, Harriet > & > Martha) are living with his son, Henry, in Porters Town, Prittlewell. His > birthplace on the 1851 census is given as Great Horkesley. I have found > two > deaths in West Ham, one in 1852 & one in 1869. > > > > >