Hi George No need to apologise. Alas, whilst finding a father noted as "deceased" on a marriage certificate *may* indicate that he was, indeed, dead, finding no such annotation certainly does not mean that he was still alive. There was no statutory requirement to record this information - some clerics made a note if they knew a father was dead, or were told that he was, others didn't bother, and if the information wasn't proffered it was rarely asked for. Back to the drawing board, I'm afraid! Best wishes Caroline > I would like to thank everyone on the list for their help, but I owe > you all an > apology for leading you up the wrong tree. Thanks to Eve from this list > she > asked me if I had the wedding certificate of their son William to see > if the > father was deceased. This is something I never thought of so I checked > it out > and George was an Husbandman when William was married in 1861. So > obvious George > was alive in 1861. So all you helpful people out there I have had you > looking at > the wrong dates. It still doesn’t alter the fact that I am still > looking for > George and Susannah’s death and still need help. By the way they were > married in > Sible Hedingham on Oct 11th 1837. Thanks once again. > George