Another thing you could do is to join the mariner mailing list, this list deals only with ships and the men who sailed them-Royal Navy & Merchant ships and Mariner. Go to the mariners website at www.mariners-l.co.uk There you will see a list of subjects & countries to choose from including the Mailing List. I found the listers very helpful when I was tracing my 3 master mariners and was given lots of details about most of the ships they sailed on over their times at sea. The Ancestry site has a lot of Master Mariner & Mates certificates, with the testimonials that go with them, but I am not sure how far forward in time these come up to. They may not contain men who would have been at sea during the 2 World Wars. Do you have anything with his master mariners certificate number on at all? If so then you could search for him with that number on the Ancestry site to see if anything comes up. Regards Jenny DeAngelis <<I don't think you need an FOI request as these documents tend to be publically available now. Although there may be some caveats around WW2 as some of those who served are still alive so you may need to show a connection to the person whose records you are looking for. >>

April, I don't think you need an FOI request as these documents tend to be publically available now. Although there may be some caveats around WW2 as some of those who served are still alive so you may need to show a connection to the person whose records you are looking for. That said, I'm pretty sure you can apply for their service records via the GRO in Kew. Check the website but I'm pretty sure you can see if they have anything for your person and then either order the records they have and download them online (not always available) or get copies from the archives there. I think Findmypast also has some information about master mariners/ merchant seaman who served, although that will probably give you the Kew reference information rather than the actual records. But again it confirms if there are any records. The other thing to do is there is a master mariner mailing list on Rootsweb, post a request there with a few more details about what you are looking for and someone may be able to help in more detail. There is also a Master Mariner association based in London I think, so you could try contacting them to see what they recommend. Kind regards Ros -----Original Message----- From: essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of April Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2013 5:04 PM To: isle-of-wight-l@rootsweb.com; eng-ham-portsmouth-gosport@rootsweb.com; essex-uk@rootsweb.com; kent-eng@rootsweb.com Subject: [Ess] Fwd: MASTER MARINER -------- Original Message -------- Subject: MASTER MARINER Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 18:22:22 +0000 From: April <adala-41@googlemail.com> To: mariners@rootsweb.com Re HENRY P PRESSEY (not his son H. P. James Pressey) Hello Listers. Has anyone else been successful in finding Records for their family MASTER MARINER who worked for the War Department in both World Wars. The Freedom of Information Act does not seem to allow for this kind of information. Or, so I have been told. Kind regards. April. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You can subscribe to Essex Ancestors online and they have almost all the Essex Parish Register images, including All Saints West Ham and other Churches in the vicinity Cheers, Diana On 4 February 2013 04:48, Ashton April <ahashton@focalplane.com> wrote: > Does the ERO produce CD's for the BMD's in West Ham Parishes? If not, > is this something possibly undertaken by the Essex FHS? > Thank you. > > April Wood Ashton > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I would like to contact descendants of the following persons who have their roots in Essex. Although their names are spelled Prentis and Prentyce, the descendents may have adopted the more modern spelling of Prentice. Children, all baptized at Shalford, Essex County, England: 1. William3 Prentis. Baptism: 5 Jun 1567. 2. Margaret Prentyce. Baptism: 30 Jan 1568, in Shalford, Essex, Eng. According to Shalford marriage records, on 25 September 1598 a Margaret Prentice married *Robert Chapman*. She may be the same Margaret since Valentyne's daughter, Margaret, was apparently unmarried at the time of his May 1598 Will. As of 2002, the IGI does not show any children for a Robert and Margaret Chapman. 3. John Prentyce. Baptism: 13 May 1571. 4. Richard Prentyce. Baptism: 20 Sep 1573. 5. George Prentyce. Baptism: 4 Mar 1575. 6. Alexander Prentyce. Baptism: 19 Jul 1579. Please email me at Dewald@Prenticenet.com with PRENTICE in the Subject Box of your email. Joe Dewald Roseville, California, USA

Hi Bruce, The Thorrington parish registers are available to view on SEAX via subscription (varying from one day up to one year). The baptism register records: George, son of George and Susanna Aldham was baptised on 23 March 1814, George was a farmer. The burial register records: Susanna Aldham buried 18 April 1816, of Colchester, infant George Aldham buried 28 September 1816 of Thorrington, aged 2 I don't know if the above information is of any help to you. Regards David Many thanks to all who responded to my message. I’m puzzled by ‘Susannah Aldham born and buried 1816 in Thorrington, the parish record says she came from Colchester.’ Is this an infant born and buried in the parish but whose parents came from Colchester? As Thorrington doesn’t seem to be available on SEAX I can’t check it it myself. David has rather spoilt my theory of it being the same George unless someone is able to find another Susanna ALDHAM death between 1818 and 1822 and George (with two small children) was a little economical with the truth in his (second) marriage. Many thanks again, Bruce Peeke ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6076 - Release Date: 02/02/13

Does the ERO produce CD's for the BMD's in West Ham Parishes? If not, is this something possibly undertaken by the Essex FHS? Thank you. April Wood Ashton

Many thanks to all who responded to my message. I’m puzzled by ‘Susannah Aldham born and buried 1816 in Thorrington, the parish record says she came from Colchester.’ Is this an infant born and buried in the parish but whose parents came from Colchester? As Thorrington doesn’t seem to be available on SEAX I can’t check it it myself. David has rather spoilt my theory of it being the same George unless someone is able to find another Susanna ALDHAM death between 1818 and 1822 and George (with two small children) was a little economical with the truth in his (second) marriage. Many thanks again, Bruce Peeke From: suffolksue Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 2:10 PM To: essex-uk@rootsweb.com ; Bruce Peeke Subject: Re: [Ess] George ALDHAM 1792-1873 There is a burial of a Susannah Aldham born and buried 1816 in Thorrington, the parish record says she came from Colchester. Maybe this could be another child, you could try searching the Colchester parishes for the marriages. --- On Sun, 3/2/13, Bruce Peeke <brucerpeeke@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: From: Bruce Peeke <brucerpeeke@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: [Ess] George ALDHAM 1792-1873 To: essex-uk@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, 3 February, 2013, 13:14 George and Susanna ALDHAM had two children baptised in Frating, Essex, in 1817 and 1818. George and Elizabeth Higham ALDHAM had one child baptised in Wickham in 1822, another in Langford in 1826 and three more in Ulting in 1828, 1833 and 1835. I believe George in each case to be the George ALDHAM baptised in Ulting in 1792 but have been unable to find any marriage, either to Susanna or Elizabeth, nor a death for a Susanna ALDHAM between 1818 and 1822. Elizabeth Higham HUMPHREYS was baptised in White Notley in 1797. I do not know Essex so do not know which other parishes might be close to those mentioned in order to search SEAX, which is where I have got what information that I have. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Bruce Peeke ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marriage in St. Mary, Magdalene, Thorrington   George Aldham Susannah Bacon Okeley both single and of the parish by licence 20th May, 1812 witnesses John Barrington John Cole     --- On Sun, 3/2/13, Bruce Peeke <brucerpeeke@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: From: Bruce Peeke <brucerpeeke@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: [Ess] George ALDHAM 1792-1873 To: essex-uk@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, 3 February, 2013, 13:14 George and Susanna ALDHAM had two children baptised in Frating, Essex, in 1817 and 1818.  George and Elizabeth Higham ALDHAM had one child baptised in Wickham in 1822, another in Langford in 1826 and three more in Ulting in 1828, 1833 and 1835. I believe George in each case to be the George ALDHAM baptised in Ulting in 1792 but have been unable to find any marriage, either to Susanna or Elizabeth, nor a death for a Susanna ALDHAM between 1818 and 1822.  Elizabeth Higham HUMPHREYS was baptised in White Notley in 1797. I do not know Essex so do not know which other parishes might be close to those mentioned in order to search SEAX, which is where I have got what information that I have. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Bruce Peeke ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: "Judy Lester" <jlester@btinternet.com> > Bruce, > > To find contiguous parishes, use English Jurisdictions 1851. > > http://maps.familysearch.org/ > > Search on the parish, select it, then the Options tab. > > HTH> There is also a super little free program called Parish Locator, downloadable from: http://www.parloc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ParLocDL.html This enables you to enter the name of any parish anywhere in the country and then produce a list of parishes within any given (writable) number of miles of it. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Bruce, To find contiguous parishes, use English Jurisdictions 1851. http://maps.familysearch.org/ Search on the parish, select it, then the Options tab. HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Peeke I do not know Essex so do not know which other parishes might be close to those mentioned in order to search SEAX, which is where I have got what information that I have. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Bruce Peeke

Hi Bruce, I have been building up a database of the surname HUMPHREYS (including the various spellings) in Essex. I have the following entry from the Witham marriage register (D/P 30/1/15): George ALDHAM of the parish of Ulting in the Co: of Essex, Batchelor (sic) and Elizabeth Higham HUMPHERYS of the parish of Witham in the County aforesaid, Spinster were married in this church by Licence this fifth day of July 1821. The witnesses were Harriet Aldham and John Humpherys. Interesting to note that George said that he was a bachelor, so the George you found in Frating could be another person. Hope this helps. David -----Original Message----- From: essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Bruce Peeke Sent: 03 February 2013 13:14 To: essex-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: [Ess] George ALDHAM 1792-1873 George and Susanna ALDHAM had two children baptised in Frating, Essex, in 1817 and 1818. George and Elizabeth Higham ALDHAM had one child baptised in Wickham in 1822, another in Langford in 1826 and three more in Ulting in 1828, 1833 and 1835. I believe George in each case to be the George ALDHAM baptised in Ulting in 1792 but have been unable to find any marriage, either to Susanna or Elizabeth, nor a death for a Susanna ALDHAM between 1818 and 1822. Elizabeth Higham HUMPHREYS was baptised in White Notley in 1797. I do not know Essex so do not know which other parishes might be close to those mentioned in order to search SEAX, which is where I have got what information that I have. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Bruce Peeke ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6076 - Release Date: 02/02/13

There is a burial of a Susannah Aldham born and buried 1816 in Thorrington, the parish record says she came from Colchester. Maybe this could be another child, you could try searching the Colchester parishes for the marriages.       --- On Sun, 3/2/13, Bruce Peeke <brucerpeeke@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: From: Bruce Peeke <brucerpeeke@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: [Ess] George ALDHAM 1792-1873 To: essex-uk@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, 3 February, 2013, 13:14 George and Susanna ALDHAM had two children baptised in Frating, Essex, in 1817 and 1818.  George and Elizabeth Higham ALDHAM had one child baptised in Wickham in 1822, another in Langford in 1826 and three more in Ulting in 1828, 1833 and 1835. I believe George in each case to be the George ALDHAM baptised in Ulting in 1792 but have been unable to find any marriage, either to Susanna or Elizabeth, nor a death for a Susanna ALDHAM between 1818 and 1822.  Elizabeth Higham HUMPHREYS was baptised in White Notley in 1797. I do not know Essex so do not know which other parishes might be close to those mentioned in order to search SEAX, which is where I have got what information that I have. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Bruce Peeke ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

George and Susanna ALDHAM had two children baptised in Frating, Essex, in 1817 and 1818. George and Elizabeth Higham ALDHAM had one child baptised in Wickham in 1822, another in Langford in 1826 and three more in Ulting in 1828, 1833 and 1835. I believe George in each case to be the George ALDHAM baptised in Ulting in 1792 but have been unable to find any marriage, either to Susanna or Elizabeth, nor a death for a Susanna ALDHAM between 1818 and 1822. Elizabeth Higham HUMPHREYS was baptised in White Notley in 1797. I do not know Essex so do not know which other parishes might be close to those mentioned in order to search SEAX, which is where I have got what information that I have. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Bruce Peeke

In a message dated 03/02/2013 13:25:29 GMT Standard Time, brucerpeeke@tiscali.co.uk writes: I do not know Essex so do not know which other parishes might be close to those mentioned in order to search SEAX, which is where I have got what information that I have. Bruce, A very popular and useful free programme for locating parishes and the distances between them. _http://www.parloc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/parishlocator.html_ (http://www.parloc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/parishlocator.html) Regards, Jennifer

Hello April It would depend who the individual worked for. I know that MI6 records fall outside the scope of the freedom of information but many other war office departments have released many details to the National Archives. Do you have any papers or information which could indicate the department? The Foreign and Commonwealth Office, Records and Historical Department may be able to direct you further. Their address is: Old Admiralty Building, Whitehall, London SW1A 2PA. Good luck Linda On 03 February 2013 at 09:03 April <adale41@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: MASTER MARINER > Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 18:22:22 +0000 > From: April <adala-41@googlemail.com> > To: mariners@rootsweb.com > > > Re HENRY P PRESSEY (not his son H. P. James Pressey) > > Hello Listers. > > Has anyone else been successful in finding Records for their family > MASTER MARINER who worked for the War Department in both World Wars. > > The Freedom of Information Act does not seem to allow for this kind of > information. Or, so I have been told. > > Kind regards. > > April. > > > > > ************************************** > You can contact the Isle of Wight List Administrator by emailing: > Isle-of-Wight-Admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-WIGHT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: MASTER MARINER Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 18:22:22 +0000 From: April <adala-41@googlemail.com> To: mariners@rootsweb.com Re HENRY P PRESSEY (not his son H. P. James Pressey) Hello Listers. Has anyone else been successful in finding Records for their family MASTER MARINER who worked for the War Department in both World Wars. The Freedom of Information Act does not seem to allow for this kind of information. Or, so I have been told. Kind regards. April.

  The 1881 census says William was born in Westminster c1872. Have found this baptism in St. Margaret, Westminster. William Mooney bap February 13th, 1872 son of Francis and Mary Ann fathers occupation = boot closer abode = Gt. Chapel Street.                 --- On Tue, 29/1/13, Jshep <jshep@stoneyburn.ca> wrote: From: Jshep <jshep@stoneyburn.ca> Subject: [Ess] Rose Valley Industrial School Shenfield (Brentwood) To: essex-uk@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, 29 January, 2013, 16:36 Has anyone had any success locating information regarding the Rose Valley Industrial School at Shenfield (Brentwood).  We are attempting to find information regarding a William Mooney aged 9 who was a 'scholar' in the 1881 census.  Who were his parents and specifically were did he come from and where did he go to? Thanks Jim ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the quick replies here is a fuller picture the dots that need connecting..... * Our subject William Mooney born ca 1872 arrived in Canada 18 Jul 1886 from Liverpool on the SS Polynesian as part of the Cardinal Manning Party. (Polynesian Ship List: Microfilm reel: C-4535 Archives of Canada: Ship: POLYNESIAN Port of departure: Liverpool Departure Date: 8 Jul 1886 Port of arrival: Quebec Arrival Date: 18 Jul 1886 Party: Cardinal Manning Destination: Ottawa) * It has been suggested by the LMA that he may have been from the St. Mary's Orphanage Hounslow. * William does not appear on the 1881 census from St. Mary's Orphanage (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BRITISHHOMECHILDREN/2001-11/1006542143) * A William Mooney of the appropriate age appears in the 1881 census at the Rose Valley Industrial School, Shenfield (Brentwood) Essex. * We have two William Mooney infants of the approximate age appearing on the 1871 census, one of which is William son of Francis the bootmaker (1871 census) or boot closer (bapt. St. Margaret, Westminster) and Mary Ann of Gt. Chapel Street. * /Anecdote William claimed that he was born in Drury Lane. That could give some weight to the William age 2 mths in the 1871 census, son of Francis and Elizabeth of Westminister, St. John the Evangelist./

Has anyone had any success locating information regarding the Rose Valley Industrial School at Shenfield (Brentwood). We are attempting to find information regarding a William Mooney aged 9 who was a 'scholar' in the 1881 census. Who were his parents and specifically were did he come from and where did he go to? Thanks Jim

Hi Bev. Have you tried Loughton & District Historical Society? http://theydon.org.uk/lhs/ The Barnardo's website also has a great wealth of historical info; start here: http://www.barnardos.org.uk/what_we_do/who_we_are/history.htm There is no mention of Loughton in their list of homes, however, and it seems exhaustive (not many mentions get made of the brief use of Upshirebury, Upshire, as a Barnardo's home but it is listed here). Perhaps Uplands nearly became a Barnardo's home? Thy also have an image and film archive which might be worth an enquiry: http://www.barnardos.org.uk/what_we_do/who_we_are/history/family_history_service/family_history_service_our_service/photo_archive.htm Regards, Lawrence, in neighbouring Waltham Abbey On 16/01/2013 18:32, Bev Harsh wrote: > Hello List! > > Would anyone have any information on this as a convalescent home c1891-1900? > > I know that Miss Lobb was its head, and have found various ads in connection > with it in British Newspaper Archive. > > There may have been a connection with Dr Barnardo, as in 1895 there was a > sale of work "the fifth annual" in the Public Hall, opened "in the absence > of Dr Barnardo". Any idea if any Dr Barnardo records for the period exist? > > All info gratefully received!! > > Thanks > > Bev > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >