On 2013/07/12 13:31, Connie wrote: > Are there any marriages for West Ham registration district available > online please? > > I'm looking for the marriage of Robert Cressall POORE to confirm he > married Amy Sophia WARNER in the Dec qtr of 1881. > > I have found the baptisms of two children. One (1883) gives Amy as > the mother, the other (1887) has Mary as the mother. The second one could be as a result of a transcription error when the register entry was made at some time after the actual baptism. Baptisms and Burials in the 19th century were very rarely entered into the register at the actual time of the event. They went into a Day Book or Journal and were entered en masse at a later date. Check the 1891 census for both males (the other one should be tried first) and see who he married. Judging by FreeBMD, you've identified the right woman. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg
Mike Fry wrote: > The second one could be as a result of a transcription error when the register > entry was made at some time after the actual baptism. Baptisms and Burials in > the 19th century were very rarely entered into the register at the actual time > of the event. They went into a Day Book or Journal and were entered en masse at > a later date. > > Check the 1891 census for both males (the other one should be tried first) and > see who he married. Judging by FreeBMD, you've identified the right woman. Hallo Thank you. I did wonder if Mary was a mistake. It looks as though it was. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/
Caroline Bell wrote: > Connie > > Without buying the certificate it's impossible to confirm it, but on > the page there are two marriages (2 men and two women) and one man is > Robert Cressall Poore and one women isAmy Sophia Warner :) So he > either married her or the other woman, Caroline Ardolfine Struwe. The > reference is West Ham, Dec qtr 1881, volume 4a, page 179. Hallo Thank you. I had hoped Ancestry would have the entry. Unfortunately they didn't. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/
There is a family tree on Ancestry for this couple - it shows 11 children :) Caroline -----Original Message----- From: Mike Fry Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 12:47 PM To: essex-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Ess] Robert Cressall POORE marr 1881 On 2013/07/12 13:31, Connie wrote: > Are there any marriages for West Ham registration district available > online please? > > I'm looking for the marriage of Robert Cressall POORE to confirm he > married Amy Sophia WARNER in the Dec qtr of 1881. > > I have found the baptisms of two children. One (1883) gives Amy as > the mother, the other (1887) has Mary as the mother. The second one could be as a result of a transcription error when the register entry was made at some time after the actual baptism. Baptisms and Burials in the 19th century were very rarely entered into the register at the actual time of the event. They went into a Day Book or Journal and were entered en masse at a later date. Check the 1891 census for both males (the other one should be tried first) and see who he married. Judging by FreeBMD, you've identified the right woman. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Connie Without buying the certificate it's impossible to confirm it, but on the page there are two marriages (2 men and two women) and one man is Robert Cressall Poore and one women isAmy Sophia Warner :) So he either married her or the other woman, Caroline Ardolfine Struwe. The reference is West Ham, Dec qtr 1881, volume 4a, page 179. Caroline -----Original Message----- From: Connie Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 12:31 PM To: ESSEX-UK@rootsweb.com Subject: [Ess] Robert Cressall POORE marr 1881 Hallo Are there any marriages for West Ham registration district available online please? I'm looking for the marriage of Robert Cressall POORE to confirm he married Amy Sophia WARNER in the Dec qtr of 1881. I have found the baptisms of two children. One (1883) gives Amy as the mother, the other (1887) has Mary as the mother. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hallo Are there any marriages for West Ham registration district available online please? I'm looking for the marriage of Robert Cressall POORE to confirm he married Amy Sophia WARNER in the Dec qtr of 1881. I have found the baptisms of two children. One (1883) gives Amy as the mother, the other (1887) has Mary as the mother. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/
Does anyone have a connection for a William Worden b Nov 30 1800? He was not COE so having trouble. Thanks Karen On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Caroline Bell <bambigods@gmail.com> wrote: > Connie > > Without buying the certificate it's impossible to confirm it, but on the > page there are two marriages (2 men and two women) and one man is Robert > Cressall Poore and one women isAmy Sophia Warner :) So he either married > her > or the other woman, Caroline Ardolfine Struwe. The reference is West Ham, > Dec qtr 1881, volume 4a, page 179. > > Caroline > > -----Original Message----- > From: Connie > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 12:31 PM > To: ESSEX-UK@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Ess] Robert Cressall POORE marr 1881 > > Hallo > > Are there any marriages for West Ham registration district available > online please? > > I'm looking for the marriage of Robert Cressall POORE to confirm he > married Amy Sophia WARNER in the Dec qtr of 1881. > > I have found the baptisms of two children. One (1883) gives Amy as > the mother, the other (1887) has Mary as the mother. > > -- > Connie > http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
I posted this before but did not see it cone up on the list. Ancestry.com has an app called Shoebox. This is to be able to photograph docs, pics etc from research centers etc instead of actually making a photo copy. I subscribe to Ancestry.co.uk but can't find the app for the uk branch. Of course Ancestry.com won't let me tag to them as it's a separate subscription. Anyone seen an app for uk? My queries to Ancestry go unanswered. Shirley O'Donnell Florida
Have you tried the Commonwealth War Graves Commission http://www.cwgc.org/ Pam in Brisbane Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <Csgen50@aol.com> To: <ahashton@focalplane.com> Cc: <ESSEX-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 11:49 PM Subject: Re: [Ess] WW1 Hi April, By casualty do you mean those killed, or all of those killed, wounded or injured in the course of their duties at whichever front they happened to be serving on or of course at sea? Casualty figures were sometimes given in local newspapers for what they were worth. Often the full figures weren't given by the government because of the exceedingly high numbers. Very bad for civilian moral. Also it could be days or even weeks for the numbers to be even guessed at. If it is an officer that you are looking for then he will probably be listed in the London Gazette which is free on line. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/home.aspx?GeoType=London If it's any other ranks I doubt you will find a great deal if any info. in the local press unless a family posted an obituory - there could be an awful lot to look through. Hope this helps, Regards, Mick
Hi April, By casualty do you mean those killed, or all of those killed, wounded or injured in the course of their duties at whichever front they happened to be serving on or of course at sea? Casualty figures were sometimes given in local newspapers for what they were worth. Often the full figures weren't given by the government because of the exceedingly high numbers. Very bad for civilian moral. Also it could be days or even weeks for the numbers to be even guessed at. If it is an officer that you are looking for then he will probably be listed in the London Gazette which is free on line. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/home.aspx?GeoType=London If it's any other ranks I doubt you will find a great deal if any info. in the local press unless a family posted an obituory - there could be an awful lot to look through. Hope this helps, Regards, Mick
Is it possible to know whether WW1 Casualty Lists were published in the Essex Newspapers - and if so, which newspapers c1916-17. Thank you, April Wood Ashton
Hi, Can some of you experts perhaps give me some guidance on how I can find out information about my GGgrandfather's family. In the 1851 (Grays) and 1841 (Langenhoe) census he was John Marchant with wife Sarah Ann. He was married in 1837 in Layer De La Haye and used the name John Marchant Smith, witnessed by his father William Marchant Smith. The censuses say that he was born in Langenhoe, but I can't find any trace of him or his father. I have been through SEAX looking, though mostly for the family of Sarah Ann Curtis, but that's another story. Any pointers welcome please, though I have just been struck by the thought that maybe they were itinerant and Langenhoe was just a convenient remembrance from his childhood and he was actually born/baptised elsewhere. Thank you, Peter Merchant
On 23/06/2013 17:00, Pat Cook wrote: > I have found an Article by Tom King, on the Internet, in the 'Echo' dated Sept 2006. > > It gives details of Paglesham and its history. I describes a book 'Paglesham Natives' which is private sold by its authors Rosemary and Mark Roberts. > > Does anybody know how I can contact them to purchase a copu of the book.? > Pat in Grimsby Lincs http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0951637037/ref=nosim/1557 If you're boycotting Amazon, then: http://biblio.co.uk/details.php?dcx=534738281&aid=aa&t=1 Regards, Lawrence
I have found an Article by Tom King, on the Internet, in the 'Echo' dated Sept 2006. It gives details of Paglesham and its history. I describes a book 'Paglesham Natives' which is private sold by its authors Rosemary and Mark Roberts. Does anybody know how I can contact them to purchase a copu of the book.? Pat in Grimsby Lincs
Thank you Lawrence, Shirley and David for your comments. I agree, the fishermen did move around the country, following the best fishing area's, and seeking high wages and better conditions. I know of a fisherman who came to Grimsby from Southend on Sea. With John SMITH, that wasnt the case. I am doing this research for a surprise retirement present for our son in law who is an Essex man. I have followed his four great grandparents surnames they have all lived in either Essex or Suffolk, the earliest date I have achieved is 1540 with a marriage. The surnames are SMITH, BRIDGE, and DENNY, the fourth being ROBERTS, which did have London connections. David thank you for the link to the National Archives re Smith Bros of Burnham on Crouch, I have asked for an estimate to have the article sent to me, it is not online. You never know. Thanks everybody Pat in Grimsby, Lincs ________________________________ From: "essex-uk-request@rootsweb.com" <essex-uk-request@rootsweb.com> To: essex-uk@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 23 June 2013, 8:00 Subject: ESSEX-UK Digest, Vol 8, Issue 107 ----- Forwarded Message ----- This Essex-UK digest is now sent to you from RootsWeb using new software. There are two forms for the digest MIME or Plain Text. To receive the digest in the other format, please contact the list admin at < Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > and specify which format you would prefer. You can confirm which format you are current receiving by looking at the full headers of this message. Plain Text Digest are "Content-Type: text/plain;" and MIME digests are "Content-Type: multipart/mixed;". The way that a digest looks is very much the function of the e-mail system that is being used to read the message. When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. To send a new message to the list send it to Essex-UK@rootsweb.com Today's Topics: 1. Re: ESSEX-UK Digest, Vol 8, Issue 106 (Dave Dobbin) The National Archives have some Board of Trade papers at http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C2150916 The Description reads: "River Roach at Paglesham: oyster and mussel fishery; Smith Bros (Burnham-on-Crouch) Ltd" and the papers appear to refer to the periond 18723 to 1946. So perhaps they just moved across the river to Burnham - or this may just be a red herring? DaveD -----Original Message----- From: essex-uk-request <essex-uk-request@rootsweb.com> From: Pat Cook <paver207@yahoo.co.uk> To: Essex-UK@rootsweb.com <Essex-UK@rootsweb.com> Subject: [Ess] John SMITH brick wall poss Paglesham, Essex Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 18:03:44 +0100 (BST) John SMITH marries 2 July 1783 Paglesham, Essex by Licence. He is a Bachelor, his wife Anne MIALL is a spinster. Both signed with X. Withnesses were Henry BECKWITH and Thomas BETTS who both S.I have only found one child Jonathan SMITH bapt 27 November 1796 Paglesham,The family are Oyster Dredgers and Fishermen at Pagles for about 200 years.I am stuck with John's baptism and his parents.So far havnt been able to find his origins on Ancestry, IGI etc, any help or suggestions welcome.Pat in Grimsby, Lincs To contact the ESSEX-UK list administrator, send an email to ESSEX-UK-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the ESSEX-UK mailing list, send an email to ESSEX-UK@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text.
The National Archives have some Board of Trade papers at http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C2150916 The Description reads: "River Roach at Paglesham: oyster and mussel fishery; Smith Bros (Burnham-on-Crouch) Ltd" and the papers appear to refer to the periond 18723 to 1946. So perhaps they just moved across the river to Burnham - or this may just be a red herring? DaveD -----Original Message----- From: essex-uk-request <essex-uk-request@rootsweb.com> From: Pat Cook <paver207@yahoo.co.uk> To: Essex-UK@rootsweb.com <Essex-UK@rootsweb.com> Subject: [Ess] John SMITH brick wall poss Paglesham, Essex Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 18:03:44 +0100 (BST) John SMITH marries 2 July 1783 Paglesham, Essex by Licence. He is a Bachelor, his wife Anne MIALL is a spinster. Both signed with X. Withnesses were Henry BECKWITH and Thomas BETTS who both S.I have only found one child Jonathan SMITH bapt 27 November 1796 Paglesham,The family are Oyster Dredgers and Fishermen at Pagles for about 200 years.I am stuck with John's baptism and his parents.So far havnt been able to find his origins on Ancestry, IGI etc, any help or suggestions welcome.Pat in Grimsby, Lincs
Only a suggestion, but their profession and your address may provide a clue ehen thought of together. I once researched a fishing family at Burnham on Crouch and eventually found that they came from Portsmouth. There was a time when hopping round the coast was easier than crossing inland, especially forvpeople who were seafaring anyway. Good luck, Lawrence. On 21 Jun 2013 18:07, "Pat Cook" <paver207@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > John SMITH marries 2 July 1783 Paglesham, Essex by Licence. He is a > Bachelor, his wife Anne MIALL is a spinster. Both signed with X. Withnesses > were Henry BECKWITH and Thomas BETTS who both S. > > I have only found one child Jonathan SMITH bapt 27 November 1796 Paglesham, > > The family are Oyster Dredgers and Fishermen at Pagles for about 200 years. > > I am stuck with John's baptism and his parents. > > So far havnt been able to find his origins on Ancestry, IGI etc, any help > or suggestions welcome. > Pat in Grimsby, Lincs > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
John SMITH marries 2 July 1783 Paglesham, Essex by Licence. He is a Bachelor, his wife Anne MIALL is a spinster. Both signed with X. Withnesses were Henry BECKWITH and Thomas BETTS who both S. I have only found one child Jonathan SMITH bapt 27 November 1796 Paglesham, The family are Oyster Dredgers and Fishermen at Pagles for about 200 years. I am stuck with John's baptism and his parents. So far havnt been able to find his origins on Ancestry, IGI etc, any help or suggestions welcome. Pat in Grimsby, Lincs
I agree with Lawrence, about wondering fishermen/mariners my Baxter fisherman from Barking, Essex migrated to the Kent coast, Gorleston & Grimsby. What is their travels on the census? When did your family get to Grimsby? Have you connected to anyone else on Ancestry who are connected to you? Or more to the point on the Ancestry issue have they REPLIED!!! Shirley in Florida On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Pat Cook <paver207@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > John SMITH marries 2 July 1783 Paglesham, Essex by Licence. He is a > Bachelor, his wife Anne MIALL is a spinster. Both signed with X. Withnesses > were Henry BECKWITH and Thomas BETTS who both S. > > I have only found one child Jonathan SMITH bapt 27 November 1796 Paglesham, > > The family are Oyster Dredgers and Fishermen at Pagles for about 200 years. > > I am stuck with John's baptism and his parents. > > So far havnt been able to find his origins on Ancestry, IGI etc, any help > or suggestions welcome. > Pat in Grimsby, Lincs > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
The transcript says. Tunbridge Wells, Congregational Church 3rd May, 1902 Frank Dix, aged 22yrs, painter, father Charles Dix (deceased) Eliza Helen Oxenbridge, aged 26yrs, father George Oxenbridge both single both of 22 Norman Road, Tunbridge Wells witnesses not listed. ________________________________ From: "bryandix@telkomsa.net" <bryandix@telkomsa.net> To: essex-uk@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 17 June 2013, 6:52 Subject: [Ess] Marriage Frank DIX to Helen OXENBRIDGE Good morning listers from a sunny South Africa. I am desperately trying to find the date of a marriage of a relative Frank DIX originally from Saffron Walden in Essex to a Eliza Helen OXENBRIDGE in the Congregational Church in Kent (Entry on Find my Past in 1902) . I do know that the marriage took place between April to June 1902 (Registered June quarter 1902). I would appreciate if sks who has a sub could help as membership is very pricy when paying in South African Rand at a conversion of 15 to 1. Kind Regards Bryan Dix ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message