I have GILDERS in Alresford in our tree on my husband's side. His Great great grandmother was Lucy WENT. Her older sister Mary Ann WENT married a William GILDERS, son of James. I don't have the dates on me at the moment sorry. Sara

It is a while since I posted my names of interest, so if anyone is researching or has anything on the following names in and around the Clacton, Alresford areas please get in touch; BEVAN DREAN/DRANE GILDERS GORHAM HAZLETON LADYMAN LEE MEAD NEWCOMB OSBORNE ROBINSON Margaret Taylor ( Port Perry.Ont)

Many thanks to all those who replied, and especially to Judy for her clear reply. Andy

"Etc." (shorthand for Et Cetera, Latin for "and so on") was often written "&c." in the old days, which might be what Andy saw as "f.c". "Et" is "and" in Latin, and of course "&" is also "and". Lawrence On 15/07/2013 00:00, jlester wrote: > Andy > > I can't access the image just now to check, but your 'Ceite' would normally be an abbreviation of 'Certificate', indicating that the examinant had supplied proof of her marriage. The phrase 'Never etc' is standard 'poor law shorthand' for 'Has never gained a settlement in his own right', indicating that no other parish or union is likely to take responsibility for the family. > > HTH > > Judy > London, UK > > Sent from Samsung Mobile

-------- Original message -------- From: jlester <jlester@btinternet.com> Date: To: andywheatley@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [Ess] Deciphering a Poor Law / Settlement Record Andy I can't access the image just now to check, but your 'Ceite' would normally be an abbreviation of 'Certificate', indicating that the examinant had supplied proof of her marriage. The phrase 'Never etc' is standard 'poor law shorthand' for 'Has never gained a settlement in his own right', indicating that no other parish or union is likely to take responsibility for the family.  HTH Judy London, UK Sent from Samsung Mobile

Dear listers I am desperately trying to find if the Sarah Emma DIX who married a Edward RENDELL circa June 1912 was the daughter of an Absalom Dix from Saffron Walden. I would really appreciate if sks could help with a look up on Ancestry. Any help or an image from the registers would be greatly appreciated. Kind Regards Bryan Dix

Hi Bryan, This Sarah Emma Dix (aged 26) was the daughter of James Dix, safemaker, deceased. Andy -----Original Message----- Subject: [Ess] DIX / RENDELL marriage - London Marriages and Banns help Dear listers I am desperately trying to find if the Sarah Emma DIX who married a Edward RENDELL circa June 1912 was the daughter of an Absalom Dix from Saffron Walden. I would really appreciate if sks could help with a look up on Ancestry. Any help or an image from the registers would be greatly appreciated. Kind Regards Bryan Dix

Sorry, Bryan, The Ancestry record shows her father as James Dix London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Sarah Emma Dix Name: Sarah Emma Dix Spinster of 116 Cambridge Road Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886 Age: 26 Spouse Name: Edward Samuel Rendell Spouse Age: 25 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 26 May 1912 Parish: Stepney St Anthony Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: James Dix safemaker (deceased) Spouse Father Name: George James Rendell One of the witnesses appears to be a James A Dix, but the signature is very smudged! HTH Anne On 14 Jul 2013, at 20:45, <bryandix@telkomsa.net> <bryandix@telkomsa.net> wrote: > Dear listers > > I am desperately trying to find if the Sarah Emma DIX who married a Edward RENDELL circa June 1912 was the daughter of an Absalom Dix from Saffron Walden. I would really appreciate if sks could help with a look up on Ancestry. > > Any help or an image from the registers would be greatly appreciated. > > Kind Regards > Bryan Dix > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, I hope someone out there with a bit more experience of these things can help me decipher this record from Bethnal Green. I have transcribed the entry below and have added a few commas to aid reading and the two entries in brackets are my additions: Saturday 24 March 1860 Mary Wheatley 32 No. 16 James Street, Green Street was married at Stepney to present husband George 16 years ago. Ceite ext (examinant) home has 5 children Mary Ann 13, George 10, James 5, Catherine, 4 and William 2. Husband never f.c he was home in Church Street don't know anything of his father's Parish must see husband when well 2 yr BG (Bethnal Green) The two elements I am at a loss with are 'Ceite' and 'f.c'. 'Ciete' looks to have been written very clearly and I cannot conjure any other spelling for this word. It is followed by 'ext' which from other records I deduce to mean examinant, i.e the person the official was investigating, but how the two words combine I am not sure. My guess it that it was a short-hand term for the applicant but would be interested to know the exact meaning. My only thought is that 'Ciete' could be a corruption of the French word 'cette' which means 'this' and therefore the phrase would be 'this examinant' but this is only a guess. The second element is 'f.c' (possibly 'etc.') and is oft repeated in records and seems to be used when recording that the husband has never 'something or other' (claimed before?). Again, it may be short-hand on the part of the investigator to save time but if anyone knows what it means I would be most interested and this information may prove useful to others. Any help gratefully received. Andy

Absolom Dix is in Steeple Bumpstead 1891. There is a child Sarah E age 10. They are at the Queens Head. He is a Carpenter & Builder and a Licensed Vitualler, so one assumes he either is the landlord of the Queens Head or the owner. . Shirley O'Donnell On Jul 14, 2013, at 3:45 PM, "bryandix@telkomsa.net" <bryandix@telkomsa.net> wrote: > Dear listers > > I am desperately trying to find if the Sarah Emma DIX who married a Edward RENDELL circa June 1912 was the daughter of an Absalom Dix from Saffron Walden. I would really appreciate if sks could help with a look up on Ancestry. > > Any help or an image from the registers would be greatly appreciated. > > Kind Regards > Bryan Dix > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Shirley I have downloaded the Ancestry Shoebox App from iTunes. I filled in the log-in exactly the same as my log-in for the Ancestry.co.uk web page and it accepted the log-in. It then asked which of my Trees did I want to send the shoebox images to from the iPhone camera. So it does work for Ancestry.co.uk Can you get to your Ancestry tree via the .com site in a web browser? I only have a UK sub, but I can log-in via either site, and the iPhone shoebox App also doesn't seem to make a distinction for me. Good Luck Mark

Hi Shirley While you are in Ancestry uk, go to the bottom right hand corner. There you will see a drop down box with all the sites you might want to go into. You may have to sign in again. I never log out of Ancestry and have the open page in my favourites. Regards Pam in Brisbane Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley O'Donnell" <srmenglish1@gmail.com> To: <ESSEX-UK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 12:54 AM Subject: [Ess] Ancestry.co.uk I posted this before but did not see it cone up on the list. Ancestry.com has an app called Shoebox. This is to be able to photograph docs, pics etc from research centers etc instead of actually making a photo copy. I subscribe to Ancestry.co.uk but can't find the app for the uk branch. Of course Ancestry.com won't let me tag to them as it's a separate subscription. Anyone seen an app for uk? My queries to Ancestry go unanswered. Shirley O'Donnell Florida

http://shoebox.ancestry.com/?o_xid=56206&o_lid=56206&o_sch=Email Caroline -----Original Message----- From: Shirley O'Donnell Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 8:59 PM To: Angelika Cc: Essex Rootsweb Subject: Re: [Ess] Ancestry.co.uk I guess I have not made myself clear. There is a specific app for an iphone or ipad that is downloaded as an app. I can get it for Ancestry.com (to which I don't subscribe) but I am trying to get it thru Ancestry.co.uk but can't find it. When I try to log in via Ancestry.com they say I am not subscribed (and that is right - I am .co.uk). I am aware of shoebox thru the regular Ancestry application but this app is to allow you to take photo's with your iphone or ipad of docs ( not on Ancestry) but in other areas i.e. a research center and docs that are not on the computer. As I have not heard anything from anyone I will assume that it is not available thru Ancestry.co.uk. On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Angelika <bewstoor@roberts.co.uk> wrote: > The shoebox is definitely there... and you should be able to log into > ANY ancestry.* web site using the same log-in credentials. I regularly > log into ancestry.co.uk, ancestry.com, ancestry.ca and ancestry.de, all > with the same ancestry.co.uk log-in credentials. > > Angelika > > On 12/07/13 15:54, Shirley O'Donnell wrote: > > I posted this before but did not see it cone up on the list. > > > > Ancestry.com has an app called Shoebox. This is to be able to > > photograph docs, pics etc from research centers etc instead of > > actually making a photo copy. I subscribe to Ancestry.co.uk but can't > > find the app for the uk branch. Of course Ancestry.com won't let me > > tag to them as it's a separate subscription. Anyone seen an app for > > uk? My queries to Ancestry go unanswered. > > > > Shirley O'Donnell > > Florida > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think that you have to get it via iTunes. Caroline -----Original Message----- From: Shirley O'Donnell Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 8:59 PM To: Angelika Cc: Essex Rootsweb Subject: Re: [Ess] Ancestry.co.uk I guess I have not made myself clear. There is a specific app for an iphone or ipad that is downloaded as an app. I can get it for Ancestry.com (to which I don't subscribe) but I am trying to get it thru Ancestry.co.uk but can't find it. When I try to log in via Ancestry.com they say I am not subscribed (and that is right - I am .co.uk). I am aware of shoebox thru the regular Ancestry application but this app is to allow you to take photo's with your iphone or ipad of docs ( not on Ancestry) but in other areas i.e. a research center and docs that are not on the computer. As I have not heard anything from anyone I will assume that it is not available thru Ancestry.co.uk. On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Angelika <bewstoor@roberts.co.uk> wrote: > The shoebox is definitely there... and you should be able to log into > ANY ancestry.* web site using the same log-in credentials. I regularly > log into ancestry.co.uk, ancestry.com, ancestry.ca and ancestry.de, all > with the same ancestry.co.uk log-in credentials. > > Angelika > > On 12/07/13 15:54, Shirley O'Donnell wrote: > > I posted this before but did not see it cone up on the list. > > > > Ancestry.com has an app called Shoebox. This is to be able to > > photograph docs, pics etc from research centers etc instead of > > actually making a photo copy. I subscribe to Ancestry.co.uk but can't > > find the app for the uk branch. Of course Ancestry.com won't let me > > tag to them as it's a separate subscription. Anyone seen an app for > > uk? My queries to Ancestry go unanswered. > > > > Shirley O'Donnell > > Florida > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Brad Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 10:54:11 -0400 > You won't - gmail don't echo your posts back to you. Hallo You have to change the settings then it will but only if you're using Outlook Express or Thunderbird or something like that. I add my address to the BCC field. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/

On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 10:54:11 -0400 "Shirley O'Donnell" <srmenglish1@gmail.com> wrote: Hello Shirley, >I posted this before but did not see it cone up on the list. You won't - gmail don't echo your posts back to you. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" You don't entertain ideas you simply bore them I Don't Like You - Stiff Little Fingers

Shirley O'Donnell wrote: > I posted this before but did not see it cone up on the list. > > Ancestry.com has an app called Shoebox. This is to be able to > photograph docs, pics etc from research centers etc instead of > actually making a photo copy. I subscribe to Ancestry.co.uk but can't > find the app for the uk branch. Of course Ancestry.com won't let me > tag to them as it's a separate subscription. Anyone seen an app for > uk? My queries to Ancestry go unanswered. Hallo When you find the record you want, click on View Record. That will take you to a new page. Save to Shoebox is the second entry under Page Tools. You can't save to the Shoebox from the image now -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/

The shoebox is definitely there... and you should be able to log into ANY ancestry.* web site using the same log-in credentials. I regularly log into ancestry.co.uk, ancestry.com, ancestry.ca and ancestry.de, all with the same ancestry.co.uk log-in credentials. Angelika On 12/07/13 15:54, Shirley O'Donnell wrote: > I posted this before but did not see it cone up on the list. > > Ancestry.com has an app called Shoebox. This is to be able to > photograph docs, pics etc from research centers etc instead of > actually making a photo copy. I subscribe to Ancestry.co.uk but can't > find the app for the uk branch. Of course Ancestry.com won't let me > tag to them as it's a separate subscription. Anyone seen an app for > uk? My queries to Ancestry go unanswered. > > Shirley O'Donnell > Florida > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I guess I have not made myself clear. There is a specific app for an iphone or ipad that is downloaded as an app. I can get it for Ancestry.com (to which I don't subscribe) but I am trying to get it thru Ancestry.co.uk but can't find it. When I try to log in via Ancestry.com they say I am not subscribed (and that is right - I am .co.uk). I am aware of shoebox thru the regular Ancestry application but this app is to allow you to take photo's with your iphone or ipad of docs ( not on Ancestry) but in other areas i.e. a research center and docs that are not on the computer. As I have not heard anything from anyone I will assume that it is not available thru Ancestry.co.uk. On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Angelika <bewstoor@roberts.co.uk> wrote: > The shoebox is definitely there... and you should be able to log into > ANY ancestry.* web site using the same log-in credentials. I regularly > log into ancestry.co.uk, ancestry.com, ancestry.ca and ancestry.de, all > with the same ancestry.co.uk log-in credentials. > > Angelika > > On 12/07/13 15:54, Shirley O'Donnell wrote: > > I posted this before but did not see it cone up on the list. > > > > Ancestry.com has an app called Shoebox. This is to be able to > > photograph docs, pics etc from research centers etc instead of > > actually making a photo copy. I subscribe to Ancestry.co.uk but can't > > find the app for the uk branch. Of course Ancestry.com won't let me > > tag to them as it's a separate subscription. Anyone seen an app for > > uk? My queries to Ancestry go unanswered. > > > > Shirley O'Donnell > > Florida > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Caroline Bell wrote: > There is a family tree on Ancestry for this couple - it shows 11 children :) Hallo Oh! Thank you. I'll have a look for the tree and see who the children were. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/