Hi Sally Ann, There is a large family tree on Ancestry that has George and Hannah on there plus details of all their children and who they married etc. Have you got this information already? Regards Diana Re: I now have a stumbling block in the above mentioned relative & his family. His name was George James JAY who worked as a bricklayer, son of Henry, a butcher, (date & place of birth/residence unknown - information from George's marriage certificate where he is listed as a witness). I have found no trace of Henry. George is on the 1841 Census in Romford, lodging with his future wife's family, Hannah (HOMSTEAD/HORNSTEAD - there's another story..), they got married in 1841 in St George in the East and in 1851 he is in Auction /Austin Place, Angel Lane, Stratford. I can find no trace of the family in 1861. By 1871 all his children (Roberta, Hornstead, Harriet & Martha) are living with his son, Henry, in Porters Town, Prittlewell. His birthplace on the 1851 census is given as Great Horkesley. I have found two deaths in West Ham, one in 1852 & one in 1869.

I was hoping someone might have access to the Halstead parish registers. According to the Writtle Archives, Mary Anne COOK married Henry BIRD on 30 Sep 1933. Various censuses show her as being born around 1814 in Halstead. I don't have any access to the Halstead PR's and so that line comes to complete halt. If someone could look at the PR's and find any information on her parents, that would be very helpful. Thanks Tony E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.10150e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/

Hi, does sks have access to the parish records for Manuden or are they only available via the Essex Records Office? I am trying to find the Birth and/or parents of James PIPER born circa 1735. I know that sometime ago there was a flood in Manuden and a lot of their records were destroyed but am hoping that copies survive somewhere. TYIA Nadine

Many thanks to all who were so appreciative and welcoming of my posting. I'm glad that it brought a bit of enjoyment. Apologies for the delayed response - there's lots of work about at the moment! Regards, Lawrence -----Original Message----- From: Roger Partridge [mailto:r.partridge@ukonline.co.uk] Hi to All ! Hear, hear !! - this sort of background information is all very much part of 'Family History' ! - anything which stirs us to go and visit the places in which our ancestors lived and died ! On 29 Jun 2008, at 13:10, Colleen wrote: > And thank you, Elmo, for your broad, tolerant and intelligent view > of family > history - one the many reasons you are still the best listowner on > roots > web! > > Colleen > >> >> It is certainly Essex Family History and therefore totally on- >> topic, even >> if it is not your own family history. Thank you for a great message. >> >> Cheers >> Elmo. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1525 - Release Date: 29/06/2008 15:09

Pat Wade <pmwade@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >... > Now I do not recall seeing Jacky's reply (either > for some reason it did not come through or I was > over tired last night and deleted with out > reading) >... As with all messages for the list, they are archived at < http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=Essex-UK > Specifically, Jacky's reply is < http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ESSEX-UK/2008-06/1214739856 > Cheers Elmo. -- --Keith Elmo ELDRIDGE Essex-UK-Admin@rootsweb.com --Elmo@aphelia.co.uk --Buxworth, High Peak, Derbyshire, England. --List Administrator of the Essex-UK mailing list

I just want to thank eveyone who helped with this problem. The ranges given do correspond with the ages that I know from other sources, so that seems to have settled it. Thanks again Tony E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.10130e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/

Hi Diane, Thank you so much for this. Now I do not recall seeing Jacky's reply (either for some reason it did not come through or I was over tired last night and deleted with out reading) Anyway would it be possible for it to be forwarded to me please. In fact I note that Diane has sent this to me and cc to the list which usually means I get it twice which I haven't. There are strange things going on with my emails at the present!! Thank you Pat _____ From: Diane wynne [mailto:thewynnes@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 30 June 2008 2:34 AM To: Pat Wade Cc: Essex Subject: Re: [Ess] Understanding SEAX documents To add to what Jacky has said about ordering from ERO. I found an item on SEAX which said pedigree sometimes with notes, and then listed several families. I was interested in one family in particular although several other names mentioned also tied into my family. So I emailed to ask how much it would cost so that I could order it and send a cheque to pay for it. In reply I was told that the document consisted of over a hundred large sheets of paper and it would require 4 A4 sheets to copy each one. I'll leave you to work out the cost!!!! Fortunately, as Jacky said, the archivist at Chelmsford was extremely helpful and went all through the document picking out the sheets that I was interested in. It still cost me nearly 40 GBP. In my case it was worth every penny. Diane

Hi, guys, I would ike to hear from anyone with a Fynn in your family. cheers Bernie Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Hi, I have been searching SEAX for my various Essex families. The following record I would love to have a better understanding of. Also what is likely to be found in the section "Pedigree of solme and HARRINGTON families"? Repository: Essex Record Office Level: Item Reference Code D/DSm/T23 Dates of Creation 1729-1839 Extent 14 Scope and Content Halstead Deeds of *Messuage called Nether Pryors (1729) land (names and abuttals): tower windmill (1800-1839),Halstead Inc. will of Dan. HARRINGTON, gentleman of Little Waltham Hall (Lt. Waltham watermill and post mill), 1796 (registered copy,E.R.O. D/ABR 29/97), and pedigree of Solme and HARRINGTON families Date From 1729 Date To 1839 Thank you for any guidance. Regards, Pat Wade (Nee King)

To add to what Jacky has said about ordering from ERO. I found an item on SEAX which said pedigree sometimes with notes, and then listed several families. I was interested in one family in particular although several other names mentioned also tied into my family. So I emailed to ask how much it would cost so that I could order it and send a cheque to pay for it. In reply I was told that the document consisted of over a hundred large sheets of paper and it would require 4 A4 sheets to copy each one. I'll leave you to work out the cost!!!! Fortunately, as Jacky said, the archivist at Chelmsford was extremely helpful and went all through the document picking out the sheets that I was interested in. It still cost me nearly 40 GBP. In my case it was worth every penny. Diane

Greetings all. I've been away from my research for a few years, but am now back in the hunt. I have a transcription of the 1821 Writtle census which uses letters for ages e.g Males 3(a,c,f); Females 2(2b, 2c,f) There is a link to the Essex Villages web site for the key to these letters, but the link no longer works.. Does anyone have the key? I remember that "a" is younger than "b", etc and that there was a range of ages for each letter, but that's it. Any help would be appreciated Thanks Tony E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.10130e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/

Thanks to everyone who's sent messages re. these strays, much appreciated. I have a busy week coming up so I'll be back with replies to messages and hopefully with more strays in about a week (yes there are more!!). Cheers Celia Renshaw in Chesterfield UK 1734 29-Nov John ALDRIDGE bach of Woodford, Essex & Anna Maria ROOK spin of Woodford, Essex 1734 09-Dec John BROOKS bach of Barking, Essex & Elizabeth THORNDON wid of Barking, Essex 1734 12-Dec Thomas HARVEY wid of Harwich, Essex & Elizabeth GARDINER wid of St Magnus the Martyr, London 1734 27-Dec William VINCAISH bach of Barking, Essex & Ann EATON spin of Barking, Essex 1735 03-Apr John STEVENS bach of Wathamstow, Essex & Alice COLLIS wid of Wathamstow, Essex 1735 22-May Waddis PYKE bach of Gold Hanger, Essex & Mary CHAMBERLAIN spin of Malden, Essex 1735 30-Jun John SMITH wid of Hornchurch, Essex & Elizabeth HADLEY spin of Hornchurch, Essex 1735 09-Jul James PRICE bach of Woodford, Essex & Elizabeth EVANS spin of St Stephen, Walbrook, London 1735 16-Jul Josias COTTIN bach of Walthamstow, Essex & Jane CUNNINGHAM spin of Walthamstow, Essex 1735 11-Sep Joseph FISH bach of Woodford, Essex & Rose GRIFFIN wid of Walthamstow, Essex 1735 11-Sep Daniel RICHARDS wid of Coopersale, Essex & Ann SMITH spin of Coopersale, Essex 1735 19-Sep Thomas MERRYFIELD wid of Rayleigh, Essex & Jane SEGGERS spin of Runwell, Essex 1735 06-Nov John SHIPMAN bach of Rumford, Essex & Elizabeth SMITH wid of Rumford, Essex 1735 15-Nov Abraham HAVERS bach of Chipping Ongar, Essex & Ann MAYNE spin of Loughton, Essex 1735.6 07-Jan John GLUE wid of Barking, Essex & Elizabeth HUNT spin of Barking, Essex 1735.6 16-Jan Justinian HOUCHETT wid of Chipping Ongar, Essex & Mary HOLDCHAIN spin of Chipping Ongar, Essex 1735.6 22-Jan Joseph HUTT wid of Orsett, co. Essex & Jane DAVIS wid of Chadwell, Essex 1735.6 24-Jan Benjamin ROUS bach of St Osith, Essex & Margarett ELLIS spin of St Andrew, Holborn, Middx 1735.6 26-Feb Thomas KING wid of Colchester, Essex & Mary GITTINGS wid of St Andrew, Holborn, Middx 1736 29-Apr William SMITH bach of Rumford, Essex & Sarah DENHAM spin of Sevenoaks, Kent 1736 04-Jun John EDWARDS wid of Lambourne, Essex & Mary BROWN spin of Chigwell, Essex 1736 14-Sep Henry SEWELL bach of Felstead, Essex & Sarah FULLER spin of Horn Church, Essex 1736 18-Oct John CHIGWELL bach of Colchester, Essex & Mary PERRY spin of Little Badowin, Essex 1736 27-Nov Barrington TAVERNER bach of Colchester, Essex & Frances HOWLAND spin of Colchester, Essex 1736 09-Dec Robert WRIGHT bach of Great Burstead, Essex & Catharine BIDDLE wid of Great Burstead, Essex 1736.7 12-Jan Thomas BINON bach of Waltham Abby, Essex & Hannah HILLS spin of Waltham Abby, Essex 1736.7 22-Feb James HESSEY bach of Walthamstow, Essex & Hesther CAMBELL spin of Walthamstow, Essex 1737 30-Apr Christopher POTTICARY wid of Graies, Essex & Elizabeth HONEY wid of St Mary, Whitechapel, Middx 1737 10-May Robert GLASCOCK bach of Clavering, Essex & Anne GOOSE spin of Trumpington, co. Cambridge 1737 19-May Robert COOKE bach of Navestock, Essex & Elizabeth MARTIN spin of Stapleford Abbott, Essex 1737 26-Jul George WRIGHT wid of Ilford, Essex & Martha DAVIS spin of Low Layton, Essex 1737 17-Aug Henry AGAS bach of Low Layton, Essex & Elizabeth JACKSON spin of Low Layton, Essex 1737 31-Aug John CASTOLOW bach of Low Layton, Essex & Susanna FLOWER wid of Low Layton, Essex 1737 19-Sep Edward MUNS wid of East Ham, Essex & Eleanor PATRIDGE wid of St Brides, London 1737 13-Oct John HART bach of Romford, Essex & Mary DAVIES wid of Romford, Essex 1737.8 07-Feb Thomas INGREE bach of Stanford Rivers, Essex & Mary CURTIS spin of St Giles in the Fields, Middx 1737.8 14-Feb Michael ODDY bach of Grimstead, Essex & Hannah CRABE spin of Shalley, Essex 1738 28-Mar Isaac HARDY bach of Ham, Essex & Elizabeth MANCHESTER wid of Ham, Essex 1738 06-Apr Thomas PARKER bach of Goldhanger, Essex & Sarah SWAIN wid of Goldhanger, Essex 1738 16-May John ANDREWS bach of West Ham, Essex & Mary LOWE spin of West Ham, Essex 1738 02-Sep William SNOW bach of Plaistow, Essex & Jane BRAZIER spin of St Botolph, Bishopsgate, London 1738 14-Oct Henry YOUNG bach of West Ham, Essex & Elizabeth Hook JACOB spin of West Ham, Essex 1738 07-Nov John BIFORD bach of Barking, Essex & Elizabeth QUANTRILL wid of Barking, Essex 1738.9 03-Feb William BARBER bach of Hornchurch, Essex & Jane SMITH spin of Upminster, Essex 1739 29-Oct John HOLMAN bach of North Ochington, Essex & Mary ROGERS spin of North Ochington, Essex 1739 14-Nov John SEARLE bach of Barking, Essex & Catharine DAVIES spin of Epping, Essex 1739.4 17-Jan George WOOLMOR bach of Weald, Essex & Mary TERRY spin of Weald, Essex 1739.4 14-Feb John STAINES bach of Walthamstow, Essex & Jane PLAISTED spin of Walthamstow, Essex 1739.4 08-Mar Francis Haskins Eyles STYLES bach of Rumford, Essex & Sybilla EGERTON spin of St Ann, Westminster, Middx 1740 15-May John GODSALVE bach of Much Baddow, Essex & Catharine MATHEW wid of Much Baddow, Essex 1740 27-May Thomas MILLBANK bach of Woodford, Essex & Anne TANNER spin of Raynham, Essex 1740 25-Aug Blackburn POULTON bach of Barking, Essex & Mary SMITH spin of St Clement Danes, Middx 1740 27-Aug William JEFFERIES bach of West Ham, Essex & Hannah HOBSON spin of West Ham, Essex 1740 05-Sep John HODGSON bach of Ham, Essex & Mary CORBETT spin of Ham, Essex 1740 20-Sep James HIND wid of West Ham, Essex & Ann WOODBRIDGE wid of West Ham, Essex 1740 01-Nov Thomas CONWAY bach of Wanstead, Essex & Catharine REBEND spin of St Gyles in the Fields, Middx 1740 30-Dec John PRENTICE bach of the Island of Foulness in Essex & Hannah PRESTON spin of the Island of Foulness in Essex 1740 8 Oxt Edward LING bach of Barkin, Essex & Ann DAVIS spin of Barkin, Essex 1740.1 19-Jan Richard LEE bach of Ingarstone, Essex & Mary HASILDON spin of St Martin in the Fields, Middx 1741 28-Mar George SARLING bach of Low Layton, Essex & Susannah HUNT wid of Wanstead, Essex 1741 06-Apr John ALLEN bach of Halstead, Essex & Mary CROWHURST spin of Greenwich, Kent 1741 08-May Josiah MICKELFIELD bach of West Ham, Essex & Elizabeth WILLIAMS wid of West Ham, Essex 1741 25-May Gabriel PAYNE bach of Stifford, Essex & Susannah MILTON spin of St George, Hanover Square, Middx 1741 08-Jul Robert BELL bach of Bocking in Essex & Priscilla PRIME wid of St Botolph without Aldgate, London 1741 30-Jul Robert COOK bach of Woodford, Essex & Margaret DENCH spin of Woodford, Essex 1741 30-Jul Richard STRADLING wid of Barking, Essex & Anne SHEPARD wid of Barking, Essex 1741 21-Sep William NORMAN wid of Tolsberry, Essex & Mary MANSON spin of St Catherine near the Tower of London 1741 21-Sep Richard WELLS bach of Grays, Essex & Jane CLARK wid of St Andrew, Holborn, Middx 1741 26-Dec John KEEP bach of Barking, Essex & Isabell WALLER spin of Barking, Essex 1742 24-Apr Benjamin JOHNSON bach of Waltham Abby, Essex & Mary PLAYER spin of Waltham Abby, Essex 1742 15-Jun Thomas JONES wid of Hornchurch, Essex & Anne WELETT spin of Hornchurch, Essex 1742 17-Jun James BOCOCK bach of Woodford, Essex & Elizabeth LAWSON spin of Woodford, Essex 1742 19-Jun Thomas TYLER wid of Fobing, Essex & Elizabeth WALKER spin of St Brides, London 1742 11-Jul Thomas LEWEN bach of Barking, Essex & Mary STERROP spin of St Mary le Bow, London 1742.3 13-Jan John SPREADBERY bach of Barking in Essex & Margaret FLEWSTER spin of Barking in Essex 1742.3 10-Feb John BUTLER wid of Woodford, Essex & Elizabeth HUBBERD spin of Woodford, Essex 1743 04-Apr Abraham WITLEY bach of Colchester in Essex & Ann DELEMAR spin of St Dunstan, Stepney, Middx 1743 31-May James CAMPER wid of Rochford, Essex & Sarah DAVISON wid of St Thomas, Southwark 1743 26-Jul Thomas REYNAL esq, bach of Bexfields in Essex & Elizabeth BOUGHTON spin of St Andrew, Holborn, Middx 1743 03-Aug William BUGBEE bach of Maldon, Essex & Ancee BATSFORD spin of Ilford, Essex 1743.4 07-Feb John PRICE bach of Low Layton, Essex & Elizabeth JORDAN spin of Low Layton, Essex 1743.4 01-Mar Thomas HARMAN wid of Rumford, Essex & Dorothy SANDFORD spin of Rumford, Essex

Can anyone tell me where to find an 1821 Census. I didn't realise it was possible to go back that far; I understood the census details to have stopped/ started in 1841. If I can go back further that would significantly help me with a family in Yorkshire. Regards Ros -----Original Message----- From: essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tony Rolfe Sent: Sunday, 29 June 2008 3:16 PM To: essex-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: [Ess] Key for 1821 census ages Greetings all. I've been away from my research for a few years, but am now back in the hunt. I have a transcription of the 1821 Writtle census which uses letters for ages e.g Males 3(a,c,f); Females 2(2b, 2c,f) There is a link to the Essex Villages web site for the key to these letters, but the link no longer works.. Does anyone have the key? I remember that "a" is younger than "b", etc and that there was a range of ages for each letter, but that's it. Any help would be appreciated Thanks Tony E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.10130e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi to All ! Hear, hear !! - this sort of background information is all very much part of 'Family History' ! - anything which stirs us to go and visit the places in which our ancestors lived and died ! Coming from the S.W. London / Surrey borders I had tended for many years to regard Essex as almost being on the other side of the moon. ;-) But two things encouraged me to go up there and take a look at East Anglia which I had not visited for many years: (a) discovering that my Gr-grandmother came from the Suffolk coastal area; and (b) watching so many enjoyable episodes of the TV series "Lovejoy" and seeing so many beautiful places that I did not know - and Coggeshall was one of these that particularly impressed me when I saw it in the episode "Taking The Pledge" with Jack Shepherd guesting as an aristocratic tramp whose valuable miniature was in pawn. I just had to go and see Coggeshall and all those other lovely places such as Thaxted, Great Bardfield, Finchingfield, Saffron Walden, Maldon, the Belchamps, etc., (plus all the other lovely places just over the border into Suffolk !) Now I feel quite deprived if I don't manage to get up there once or twice a year ! Thank you for bringing back many happy memories ! Best Wishes ! Roger. ---------------------- On 29 Jun 2008, at 13:10, Colleen wrote: > And thank you, Elmo, for your broad, tolerant and intelligent view > of family > history - one the many reasons you are still the best listowner on > roots > web! > > Colleen > >> >> It is certainly Essex Family History and therefore totally on- >> topic, even >> if it is not your own family history. Thank you for a great message. >> >> Cheers >> Elmo. >> -- >

And thank you, Elmo, for your broad, tolerant and intelligent view of family history - one the many reasons you are still the best listowner on roots web! Colleen > > It is certainly Essex Family History and therefore totally on-topic, even > if > it is not your own family history. Thank you for a great message. > > Cheers > Elmo. > --

This is what your reference suggests to me: Repository: Essex Record Office = the original document is kept there and can be produced on request Reference Code D/DSm/T23 = the archival reference that enables them to find it among the miles of shelving - D/D indicates Deeds Dates of Creation 1729-1839 = the earliest and latest dates of the documents Extent 14 = 14 documents Scope and Content Halstead = covers the parish of Halstead Deeds of etc = a messuage is just the old term for the cottage and land which clearly was named Nether Pryors in 1729 (Pryors is a surname, Nether is descriptiive of where the field was in relation to other fields of similar name (there might be lower pryors, upper pryors etc) - names of the owners/tenants are shown, the abuttals are the names of the fields to which it was adjacent It includes a tower windmill documents dated 1800-1839 it includes the will of Daniel Harrington, gentleman = upper class of society He lived at Little Waltham Hall (the hall was generally the manor house of the parish) which includes Little Waltham watermill and post mill (= he was probably lord of the manor, in medieval times the lord had the rights to the income from the mills so it makes sense that they are on his land) There is another copy of the documents at E.R.O. D/ABR 29/97 The pedigree of Solme and HARRINGTON families shows they are an old family that had gathered together their lineage as they felt important, being gentry of the district. (A pedigree is a godsend for family historians = someone else put it together in earlier times, and maybe it might take you back before the dates of parish registers if you're lucky.) If you go on to SEAX, and click on 'Browse Catalogue' in the centre bottom of the page, you can see the context in which this item appears. You can always email the archivists at ERO, they are extremely helpful and knowledgeable: ero.enquiry@essexcc.gov.uk If the document is not too fragile, they will copy it for you - I think it 's about 40p per page, not sure. You can order online. Jacky Jacqueline Cooper www.claveringonline.org.uk www.recordinguttlesfordhistory.org.uk

Lawrence < elde.worth@ntlworld.com > wrote: > Sorry this isn't directly genealogical, but it is Essex! It is certainly Essex Family History and therefore totally on-topic, even if it is not your own family history. Thank you for a great message. Cheers Elmo. -- --Keith Elmo ELDRIDGE Essex-UK-Admin@rootsweb.com --Elmo@aphelia.co.uk --Buxworth, High Peak, Derbyshire, England. --List Administrator of the Essex-UK mailing list

Celia, Enjoy your Wimbles; what a great job you are doing, as some of this info is priceless. Remind me ( & others) the address of your web site, please. Best Kevan

I second that, Lawrence, thanks for this lovely report on Coggeshall! I've also recently spent a day looking around this stunning little Essex town and the only time the smile left my face all day was when I gasped at some of the beautiful buildings. Anyone with Coggeshall roots is very fortunate as their ancestors' footprints are so well preserved here. What is so lovely about Paycocke's is that you can wander around much of it on your own when it's empty, round the richly decorated living rooms, up into the bedrooms and round the garden. Everything is so beautifully preserved and looks so much as it did when the Paycockes lived there that you can still feel the aura of Paycockes in this gorgeous house they built. What a lovely place Grange Barn is too, Lawrence, full of old wagons and steeped in history. Did you see the isinglass factory at the entrance to the town? Now converted into old people's accommodation, but the exterior is partly preserved. Though there's a lot to be said for wandering around Paycocke's with not a sole in the place (even the couple who look after the place disappeared when I was there) I do envy your guided tour too, Lawrence. I'd love to join your group but your visits are on weekdays aren't they? I work weekdays, so days off on then outside my leave periods are rare for me. Where has your group been so far and where are you going next? Colleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "La Greenall" <elde.worth@ntlworld.com> To: <Essex-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 1:53 AM Subject: [Ess] Coggeshall Sorry this isn't directly genealogical, but it is Essex! Yesterday, I took a party of WAHS members to Coggeshall for a day out, and thought it might be worth recommending to anyone with Cogg roots, or just thinking of trying a visit within Essex for a change. One couple in our group did have Cogg roots, and had a good natter to some locals, and even discovered a framed photo of their ancestral home displayed in the museum! (We also found someone there with roots from our neck of the woods.) The town's museum curator, Shirley Ratcliffe, gave us a wonderful tour of the museum, followed by a guided walk of the town centre. There are over 200 listed buildings here, including many 16th century timber-framed wool-merchants' homes. We then visited Paycocke's House, a merchants' home that is now run by the National Trust. After lunch (in a 16th century inn next door to Paycocke's) we moved on to Grange Barn, a 12th century monastic barn that has parallels with Cressing Temple, then to what is known as St. Nicholas' Chapel, once the gatehouse chapel of Coggeshall Abbey. From there we moved on to the remains of Cogg Abbey itself, which are now incorporated into the outbuildings and farmhouse of a private working farm. What made the day special, is that on every stage, someone was on hand and more than eager to tell us all about the sites. If you have any ancestors from this town then you must get a small party together and go! There were 17 of us, and for this sort of number everyone was willing to open their doors especially for us, on a Saturday when they are normally closed. I must say that it was nice being given the personal touch! Shirley did very well in making all the local arrangements for us. Lastly, I would heartily recommend a tour of the abbey farm, which is only available by contacting the farmer owner, Roger, who conducts you round personally, round both the outside and the inside of all the abbey remains. One of the main attractions is its brickwork, made onsite for the abbey's construction, and considered to be probably the earliest post-Roman bricks made in this country. When arranging the day I very nearly balked at the fee for the abbey farm tour - £8.50 a head (which almost doubled our members' ticket price) - but on asking everyone on the way home if it was worth it, the response was rapturous with no dissentions at all! (I think it must have something to do with the enormous pots of tea and home-made shortbread provided by Jill, the farmer's wife!) I will certainly say that a tour of this farm is more than worth every penny, and it really did finish off our day with a flourish. if anyone wants contact details, just ask. Regards, Lawrence ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1524 - Release Date: 28/06/2008 19:42

All, Fairly relevant to this post, I saved copies of much of the Essex Villages site, and added some to this rather large page. http://londonpublichouse.com/essexpubs/Directories/index.shtml ; it includes Hatfield 1811 and other material. Best Kevan -----Original Message----- From: essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Sent: 29 June 2008 09:46 To: essex-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Ess] Key for 1821 census ages Hi Tony, I have a copy of the 1821 Census for Woodham Walter, and the key states: a = under 5 b = 5-10 c = 11-15 d = 16-20 e = 21-30 f = 31-40 g = 41-50 h = 51-60 i = 61-70 j = 71-80 k = 81-90 l = 91-100 There is a set of microfiche available at the Essex Record Office which contains copies of early Essex Censuses, although I did find one for Terling in 1831 which wasn't listed, so there may be one or two others. For anyone else interested, there is a little booklet entitled 'Pre-1841 Censuses and Population Listings in the British Isles' by Colin R Chapman, published by Lochlin, my copy is dated 1998 and cost GBP 5.00. Regards David Greetings all. I've been away from my research for a few years, but am now back in the hunt. I have a transcription of the 1821 Writtle census which uses letters for ages e.g Males 3(a,c,f); Females 2(2b, 2c,f) There is a link to the Essex Villages web site for the key to these letters, but the link no longer works.. Does anyone have the key? I remember that "a" is younger than "b", etc and that there was a range of ages for each letter, but that's it. Any help would be appreciated Thanks Tony E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.10130e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.101 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1524 - Release Date: 6/28/2008 7:42 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.101 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1524 - Release Date: 6/28/2008 7:42 PM ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message