Whoops!! Yes sorry it was a mistake in spelling on my part, it was late on a hot evening after a long & very hot day is the only excuse I can make for that one. It should of course be Carpenter & Joiner regards Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. > Jenny wrote - 1891 census as previously documented. > > I don't know whether Jenny's reply was a typo or a bad transcription. The > occupation of Joseph Swain should read Carpenter & Joiner.

Greetings all Does anyone have an e-mail address for Essex historian Eric D. Probert of Chelmsford? My messages keep bouncing. Cheers Frank South Africa

Thanks Ann & Kevan - have already picked up a lot of info from the small bit that I can access - what a fantastic collection of sites! Sally-Ann -----Original Message----- From: Anne Peat [mailto:anne.peat@bigwindows.demon.co.uk] Sent: 01 July 2008 10:11 To: Sally-Ann Jay Cc: Essex-UK@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Ess] londonpublichouse.com problem Yes, I couldn't get into the index but this work sand should give you some information http://wheninlondon.co.uk/LondonPublichouses.shtml Anne On 1 Jul 2008, at 09:57, Sally-Ann Jay wrote: > Hello > > > > I am having difficulty accessing the above website - is anyone else > finding > the same? I do have a new internet security programme & am > wondering if it > is blocking it. > > > > Sally-Ann Jay > > Greenham, Berkshire > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hi Diana I put my tree on Ancestry a while ago but my membership has lapsed so I don't have access anymore. this doesn't sound like my tree, tho as I only have details of Henry's & Martha's marriages. I am confused by not being able to find any of them on the 1861 census. I would also like to find details of George's birth. Not quite sure how to do this as to date all my searches have been online. I am hoping to spend some time at the Essex Records Office in Chelmsford soon; does anyone have any guidance? I am also confused as to where and when the boundaries are/were drawn between East London and Essex. Some of the areas I'm looking at used to be Essex but are now London and I'm having difficulty working out where the records are kept now. Any enlightenment would be gratefully received. Regards Sally-Ann Greenham, Berkshire _____ From: Dianadiluca@aol.com [mailto:Dianadiluca@aol.com] Sent: 01 July 2008 10:58 To: sally-ann@chairwoman.plus.com Cc: essex-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Ess] Hello & a JAY query... Hi Sally Ann, There is a large family tree on Ancestry that has George and Hannah on there plus details of all their children and who they married etc. Have you got this information already? Regards Diana Re: I now have a stumbling block in the above mentioned relative & his family. His name was George James JAY who worked as a bricklayer, son of Henry, a butcher, (date & place of birth/residence unknown - information from George's marriage certificate where he is listed as a witness). I have found no trace of Henry. George is on the 1841 Census in Romford, lodging with his future wife's family, Hannah (HOMSTEAD/HORNSTEAD - there's another story..), they got married in 1841 in St George in the East and in 1851 he is in Auction /Austin Place, Angel Lane, Stratford. I can find no trace of the family in 1861. By 1871 all his children (Roberta, Hornstead, Harriet & Martha) are living with his son, Henry, in Porters Town, Prittlewell. His birthplace on the 1851 census is given as Great Horkesley. I have found two deaths in West Ham, one in 1852 & one in 1869.

Jenny wrote - 1891 census as previously documented. I don't know whether Jenny's reply was a typo or a bad transcription. The occupation of Joseph Swain should read Carpenter & Joiner. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Jenny De Angelis" <jennyda@telefonica.net> > Hi Robert > > I expect you have this 1891 census information but just in case this is what > I found. > > No.9 Markhouse Road Walthamstow > Herbert White head 30 house Decorator > Sarah White wife > Joseph Swain wife's brother 28 Carpenter > Samuel S. Swain ditto 22 house decorator > All are shown to have been born at Maidstone Kent > The ref. for this entry is RG12 piece 1354 folio 38 page 2 > > The 1891 shows Herbert White and Sarah again living in Pretoria Avenue, > which is not far from Markhouse Road, Walthamstow, along with just Joseph > Swain as a boarder aged 30 Carpenter and Joinse born Maidstone Kent. > Ref. RG13 piece 1633 folio 99 page 2 > > Ref RG13 piece 174 folio 110 page 16 of the 1901 census shows living in > Islington London. > Samuel Swain marr. 32 Painter & Paper Hanger born Maidstone > Frances Swain wife 27 born Pemb. (Pembrokeshire but can't make out the > place name). > Birtie son 8mths born Highbury London. > > Could this be the same Samuel as you are looking for but with a second wife? > > Regards > Jenny DeAngelis > Spain. > > > > I am seeking to find my SWAIN family: the only info I have on at this > > time, is as follows: > > Sarah Ann KEMSLEY > > Born) 28 Sep 1867, Whitstable, Kent > > Died) 5 Oct 1893, 28 Springfield Road, Walthamstow, Essex > > Married) 23 Aug 1891, Parish Church, Oare, Kent > Samuel Stephen SWAIN > > Born) abt 1867 > > Child to the Marriage: > > William Herbert Henry SWAIN > > Born) 21 Jul 1892, 28 Springfield Road, Walthamstow, Essex > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

If you are on genes reunited and think you might have a link to my family,I would like to hear from you. Cheers Bernie New Zealand Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Hi Robert I expect you have this 1891 census information but just in case this is what I found. No.9 Markhouse Road Walthamstow Herbert White head 30 house Decorator Sarah White wife Joseph Swain wife's brother 28 Carpenter Samuel S. Swain ditto 22 house decorator All are shown to have been born at Maidstone Kent The ref. for this entry is RG12 piece 1354 folio 38 page 2 The 1891 shows Herbert White and Sarah again living in Pretoria Avenue, which is not far from Markhouse Road, Walthamstow, along with just Joseph Swain as a boarder aged 30 Carpenter and Joinse born Maidstone Kent. Ref. RG13 piece 1633 folio 99 page 2 Ref RG13 piece 174 folio 110 page 16 of the 1901 census shows living in Islington London. Samuel Swain marr. 32 Painter & Paper Hanger born Maidstone Frances Swain wife 27 born Pemb. (Pembrokeshire but can't make out the place name). Birtie son 8mths born Highbury London. Could this be the same Samuel as you are looking for but with a second wife? Regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain. > I am seeking to find my SWAIN family: the only info I have on at this > time, is as follows: > Sarah Ann KEMSLEY > Born) 28 Sep 1867, Whitstable, Kent > Died) 5 Oct 1893, 28 Springfield Road, Walthamstow, Essex > Married) 23 Aug 1891, Parish Church, Oare, Kent Samuel Stephen SWAIN > Born) abt 1867 > Child to the Marriage: > William Herbert Henry SWAIN > Born) 21 Jul 1892, 28 Springfield Road, Walthamstow, Essex

Hi Robert Further to the email below, I have now had a bit more time to check the two websites and two of the villages listed in the Maidstone Registration District (i.e Burham and Wouldham) appear on the CityArk website. there are many more than that in theMaidstone distict, so chances are your man wasn't born in either, still it is worth a look, and if you later find that the family may have been in that area earlier then the website is well worth a look. best wishes joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Shaw" <joyceshaw1@btinternet.com> To: "KEMSLEY, Robert N. G." <robtricia@optusnet.com.au> Cc: <Essex-UK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [Ess] Seeking to find SWAINs of Walthamstow > Hi Robert > > There is a Samuel Stephen Swain born during the Sept quarter of 1865 in > the Maidstone registration district (Ref 2a 524). This is the only entry > for anyone of that name between 1860 and 1875. > > If you go to http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/maidstone.html > you will see that there are many villages in the Maidstone district that > he could have been born in so you will need to get the certificate to see > just where it is. If you then google "Cityark" and go to the Medway > Archives you will find that many of the parishes in the Medway area are > available on line. The actual pages of the registers have been digitised > and are availble there to search free of charge. This is an ongoing > project for that area. It is possible that some of the villages in the > Maidstone district are covered under the Medway Archives, I haven't > cross-referenced the sites, but you never know your luck. > > Hope this helps > > best wishes > > Joyce > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "KEMSLEY, Robert N. G." <robtricia@optusnet.com.au> > To: <Essex-UK@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:31 AM > Subject: [Ess] Seeking to find SWAINs of Walthamstow > > >> I am seeking to find my SWAIN family: the only info I have on at this >> time, is as follows: >> >> Sarah Ann KEMSLEY >> Born) 28 Sep 1867, Whitstable, Kent >> Died) 5 Oct 1893, 28 Springfield Road, Walthamstow, Essex >> >> Married) 23 Aug 1891, Parish Church, Oare, Kent >> >> Samuel Stephen SWAIN >> Born) abt 1867 >> >> Child to the Marriage: >> William Herbert Henry SWAIN >> Born) 21 Jul 1892, 28 Springfield Road, Walthamstow, Essex >> >> The above is all I know of this family. >> >> Is anyone researching this family and could perhaps help me to get on >> the right track finding or is anyone able to assist with or guide me in >> the >> right direction to finding? >> >> All or any assistance or guidance, would be most gratefully received. >> >> Kindest Regards; >> Robert KEMSLEY >> Australia >> >> >> > > > >

Hello, Just for information purposes, the CityArk web-site includes the Church of England parish registers for Medway and Strood/North Aylesford Registration Districts, and part of Dartford Registration District. So there is no chance that the information you're interested in will be on the CityArk site. (The site is http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/ .) Kent Family History Society has published some of the parishes you're interested in but unfortunately the coverage stops just before the dates you're interested. Regards, Charles Fuller. Joyce Shaw wrote: > Hi Robert > > There is a Samuel Stephen Swain born during the Sept quarter of 1865 in the > Maidstone registration district (Ref 2a 524). This is the only entry for > anyone of that name between 1860 and 1875. > > If you go to http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/maidstone.html > you will see that there are many villages in the Maidstone district that he > could have been born in so you will need to get the certificate to see just > where it is. If you then google "Cityark" and go to the Medway Archives you > will find that many of the parishes in the Medway area are available on > line. The actual pages of the registers have been digitised and are > availble there to search free of charge. This is an ongoing project for > that area. It is possible that some of the villages in the Maidstone > district are covered under the Medway Archives, I haven't cross-referenced > the sites, but you never know your luck. > > Hope this helps > > best wishes > > Joyce > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "KEMSLEY, Robert N. G." <robtricia@optusnet.com.au> > To: <Essex-UK@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:31 AM > Subject: [Ess] Seeking to find SWAINs of Walthamstow > > >> I am seeking to find my SWAIN family: the only info I have on at this >> time, is as follows: >> >> Sarah Ann KEMSLEY >> Born) 28 Sep 1867, Whitstable, Kent >> Died) 5 Oct 1893, 28 Springfield Road, Walthamstow, Essex >> >> Married) 23 Aug 1891, Parish Church, Oare, Kent >> >> Samuel Stephen SWAIN >> Born) abt 1867 >> >> Child to the Marriage: >> William Herbert Henry SWAIN >> Born) 21 Jul 1892, 28 Springfield Road, Walthamstow, Essex >> >> The above is all I know of this family. >> >> Is anyone researching this family and could perhaps help me to get on >> the right track finding or is anyone able to assist with or guide me in >> the >> right direction to finding? >> >> All or any assistance or guidance, would be most gratefully received. >> >> Kindest Regards; >> Robert KEMSLEY >> Australia >> >> >> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi list Is anyone able to look up the Electoral Roll 2002 - 2007 for a David G Farmer living at Nether Heyford, Northhampton, and who's with him?? And the full address, I'd like to write to him please.. many thanks Judy from Oz

Hi Robert There is a Samuel Stephen Swain born during the Sept quarter of 1865 in the Maidstone registration district (Ref 2a 524). This is the only entry for anyone of that name between 1860 and 1875. If you go to http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/maidstone.html you will see that there are many villages in the Maidstone district that he could have been born in so you will need to get the certificate to see just where it is. If you then google "Cityark" and go to the Medway Archives you will find that many of the parishes in the Medway area are available on line. The actual pages of the registers have been digitised and are availble there to search free of charge. This is an ongoing project for that area. It is possible that some of the villages in the Maidstone district are covered under the Medway Archives, I haven't cross-referenced the sites, but you never know your luck. Hope this helps best wishes Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "KEMSLEY, Robert N. G." <robtricia@optusnet.com.au> To: <Essex-UK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:31 AM Subject: [Ess] Seeking to find SWAINs of Walthamstow > I am seeking to find my SWAIN family: the only info I have on at this > time, is as follows: > > Sarah Ann KEMSLEY > Born) 28 Sep 1867, Whitstable, Kent > Died) 5 Oct 1893, 28 Springfield Road, Walthamstow, Essex > > Married) 23 Aug 1891, Parish Church, Oare, Kent > > Samuel Stephen SWAIN > Born) abt 1867 > > Child to the Marriage: > William Herbert Henry SWAIN > Born) 21 Jul 1892, 28 Springfield Road, Walthamstow, Essex > > The above is all I know of this family. > > Is anyone researching this family and could perhaps help me to get on > the right track finding or is anyone able to assist with or guide me in > the > right direction to finding? > > All or any assistance or guidance, would be most gratefully received. > > Kindest Regards; > Robert KEMSLEY > Australia > > >

I'm looking for the baptism of Susannah SIMPSON daughter of John Lambert SIMPSON & Mary CHOAT(E) b.c. 1829 presumably Finchingfield. First child Mary was born in Hundon bp. 1826. With the exception of Susannah, their other children are recorded in Steeple Bumpstead PR's. The family are in Steeple Bumpstead at Rylands 1831/1841 - I was fortunate enough to get the 1831 census information from the Steeple Bumpstead OPC. The Simpson's appear to be from SUFFOLK - as John & Mary married in Barnardiston in 1826, they moved across the border and are there for 1831/1841 census. Then they seem to have moved all over the place, and I have almost all of them documented. All through the census Susannah SIMPSON says she was born in Finchingfield and there is no baptism for her in the Steeple Bumpstead pr's. Susannah married George WORLAND. Can SKS take a look at Finchingfield for me - I would appreciate it. Thanks, Shirley O'Donnell Barking Essex OPC

1871 England Census about Samuel Swam Name: Samuel Swam Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Jarvis Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Maidstone, Kent, England Civil Parish: Maidstone Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Maidstone Sub registration district: East Maidstone ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household schedule number: 40 Household Members: Name Age Arthur Swam 9 Elizabeth Swam 12 Henry E Swam 16 John Jarvis Swam 45 Mariner Jopes Swam 15 Samuel Swam 5 Sarah Swam 40 Sarah Swam 30 William Hy Swam 18 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 945; Folio: 76; Page: 7; 1881 England Census about Samuel L. Swain Name: Samuel L. Swain Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Maidstone, Kent, England Civil Parish: Maidstone County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: 3 Scott Street Occupation: Errand Boy Registration district: Maidstone Sub registration district: East Maidstone ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Arthur J. Swain 19 Joseph Swain 23 Samuel L. Swain 15 Sarah Swain 54 Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 932; Folio: 27; Page: 48 1891 England Census about Samuel S Swain Name: Samuel S Swain Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Wife's Brother (Brother-in-law) Gender: Male Where born: Maidstone, Kent, England Civil Parish: Walthamstow Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour with St James Town: Walthamstow County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: 9 Markhouse Rd Occupation: House decorator ( Stephen and Herbert) Carpenter ( Joseph) Registration district: West Ham Sub registration district: Walthamstow ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph Swain 28 Relation: Wife's Brother (Brother-in-law) Gender: Male Where born: Maidstone, Kent, England Samuel S Swain 22 Herbert White 39 Head Where born: Maidstone, Kent, England Sarah White 38 wife Where born: Maidstone, Kent, England Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1354; Folio 38; Page 2 1901 England Census about Samuel Swain Name: Samuel Swain Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Frances Gender: Male Where born: Maidstone, Kent, England Civil Parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 51 Crossley St Occupation: Painter paperhanger Registration district: Islington Sub registration district: Lower Holloway ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 103 Household Members: Name Age Birtie Swain 8 months Frances Swain 27 Where born: Lawienny, Pembrokeshire, Wales Samuel Swain 32 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 174; Folio: 110; Page: 16. On 1 Jul 2008, at 00:31, KEMSLEY, Robert N. G. wrote: > I am seeking to find my SWAIN family: the only info I have on at > this > time, is as follows: > > Sarah Ann KEMSLEY > Born) 28 Sep 1867, Whitstable, Kent > Died) 5 Oct 1893, 28 Springfield Road, Walthamstow, Essex > > Married) 23 Aug 1891, Parish Church, Oare, Kent > > Samuel Stephen SWAIN > Born) abt 1867 > > Child to the Marriage: > William Herbert Henry SWAIN > Born) 21 Jul 1892, 28 Springfield Road, Walthamstow, Essex > > The above is all I know of this family. > > Is anyone researching this family and could perhaps help me to > get on > the right track finding or is anyone able to assist with or guide me > in the > right direction to finding? > > All or any assistance or guidance, would be most gratefully > received. > > Kindest Regards; > Robert KEMSLEY > Australia > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Robert, not my families - but these might help 1871 England Census about Sarah A Kemsley Name: Sarah A Kemsley Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Francis Gender: Female Where born: Seasalter, Kent, England Civil Parish: Seasalter County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: Parsonage Farm Condition as to marriage: Disability: View Image Registration district: Blean Sub registration district: Whitstable ED, institution, or vessel: 9b Household schedule number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Emily Kemsley 6 Francis Kemsley 28 wife Where born: Harbledown, Kent, England Jane Kemsley 4 John Kemsley 1 Sarah A Kemsley 3 Thomas Kemsley 8 Where born: Harbledown, Kent, England William Kemsley 33 Occupation: Waggoner in ???? Where born: Oare, Kent, England George Mercer 17 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 975; Folio: 44; Page: 3; 1881 England Census about Sarah A. Kemsley Name: Sarah A. Kemsley Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Frances Gender: Female Where born: Seasalter, Kent, England Civil Parish: Oare County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: Oare Village Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Faversham Sub registration district: Faversham ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Albert N. Kemsley 9 Florence E. Kemsley 3 Frances Kemsley 39 John R. Kemsley 11 Nathaniel A. Kemsley 5 Rhoda Kemsley 1 Sarah A. Kemsley 13 Thomas E. Kemsley 18 Thomasine A. Kemsley 7 William Kemsley 43 Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 970; Folio: 55; Page: 23 Possibly Sarah in 1891 1891 England Census about Sarah Ann Kemsley Name: Sarah Ann Kemsley Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Whitstable, Kent, England Civil Parish: Christchurch Newgate Street Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: London City Sub registration district: Allhallows Barking ED, institution, or vessel: Christs Hospital Class: RG12; Piece: 240; Folio 139; Page 18; On 1 Jul 2008, at 00:31, KEMSLEY, Robert N. G. wrote: > I am seeking to find my SWAIN family: the only info I have on at > this > time, is as follows: > > Sarah Ann KEMSLEY > Born) 28 Sep 1867, Whitstable, Kent > Died) 5 Oct 1893, 28 Springfield Road, Walthamstow, Essex > > Married) 23 Aug 1891, Parish Church, Oare, Kent > > Samuel Stephen SWAIN > Born) abt 1867 > > Child to the Marriage: > William Herbert Henry SWAIN > Born) 21 Jul 1892, 28 Springfield Road, Walthamstow, Essex > > The above is all I know of this family. > > Is anyone researching this family and could perhaps help me to > get on > the right track finding or is anyone able to assist with or guide me > in the > right direction to finding? > > All or any assistance or guidance, would be most gratefully > received. > > Kindest Regards; > Robert KEMSLEY > Australia > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Answered off list Anne On 1 Jul 2008, at 09:28, Judy Ballantyne wrote: > Hi list > Is anyone able to look up the Electoral Roll 2002 - 2007 > for a David G Farmer living at Nether Heyford, Northhampton, and > who's with him?? > And the full address, I'd like to write to him please.. many thanks > Judy from Oz > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Yes, I couldn't get into the index but this work sand should give you some information http://wheninlondon.co.uk/LondonPublichouses.shtml Anne On 1 Jul 2008, at 09:57, Sally-Ann Jay wrote: > Hello > > > > I am having difficulty accessing the above website - is anyone else > finding > the same? I do have a new internet security programme & am > wondering if it > is blocking it. > > > > Sally-Ann Jay > > Greenham, Berkshire > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hello I am having difficulty accessing the above website - is anyone else finding the same? I do have a new internet security programme & am wondering if it is blocking it. Sally-Ann Jay Greenham, Berkshire

Good morning all This is my first post. Have been lurking for a while, learning & puzzling in equal quantities. I am looking at the JAY family in East London/Essex, mostly West Ham area. I've dabbled for a while on the Internet using the various censuses & BMD etc, backed up with certificates from the GRO. I think I've done the "easy" bits as I'm back to my ggg grandfather born c1817. I have lots of questions but not really sure where to ask them! So please feel free to redirect me. I now have a stumbling block in the above mentioned relative & his family. His name was George James JAY who worked as a bricklayer, son of Henry, a butcher, (date & place of birth/residence unknown - information from George's marriage certificate where he is listed as a witness). I have found no trace of Henry. George is on the 1841 Census in Romford, lodging with his future wife's family, Hannah (HOMSTEAD/HORNSTEAD - there's another story..), they got married in 1841 in St George in the East and in 1851 he is in Auction /Austin Place, Angel Lane, Stratford. I can find no trace of the family in 1861. By 1871 all his children (Roberta, Hornstead, Harriet & Martha) are living with his son, Henry, in Porters Town, Prittlewell. His birthplace on the 1851 census is given as Great Horkesley. I have found two deaths in West Ham, one in 1852 & one in 1869. Can anyone help me move forward (or backwards or sideways!) with this? Maybe I've got something wrong? All suggestions very gratefully received. Sally-Ann Jay Greenham, Berkshire

I am seeking to find my SWAIN family: the only info I have on at this time, is as follows: Sarah Ann KEMSLEY Born) 28 Sep 1867, Whitstable, Kent Died) 5 Oct 1893, 28 Springfield Road, Walthamstow, Essex Married) 23 Aug 1891, Parish Church, Oare, Kent Samuel Stephen SWAIN Born) abt 1867 Child to the Marriage: William Herbert Henry SWAIN Born) 21 Jul 1892, 28 Springfield Road, Walthamstow, Essex The above is all I know of this family. Is anyone researching this family and could perhaps help me to get on the right track finding or is anyone able to assist with or guide me in the right direction to finding? All or any assistance or guidance, would be most gratefully received. Kindest Regards; Robert KEMSLEY Australia

Hi Carolyn ! Have you had any other answers to your queries ? I have not seen any ! I don't know this area well, but I would guess that in the 1861 and 1871 Censuses that Charles Saltmarsh himself gave the information about his birthplace and so gave the actual village of Great Hallingbury, but in the 1881 Census that some official may have filled in the information from the records and so put down the larger Registration District of Bishops Stortford which actually included that same village ? You are actually quite lucky to have his full name on this later Census as they sometimes only listed people in prison or asylums by their initials ! I hope this helps ! Best Wishes ! Roger. ---------------------- On 29 Jun 2008, at 13:58, Carolyn Perkes wrote: > Greetings from Canada, > > With the kind help of some list members here and elsewhere I have been > able to find some records of my Saltmarsh line in Great and Little > Hallingbury (on the 1861 and 1871 census). I also have a scanned copy > of the marriage record (by banns) of Charles Saltmarsh (father > William, coachman) and Sarah Thurley (father Jeremiah) in Great > Hallingbury in 1844. > > I have three questions: > > 1. How do I go about obtaining a copy the birth and/or christening > record for Charles Saltmarsh, born ca 1824, in Great Hallingbury (that > is the birth place indicated on the 1861 and 1871 census)? I am > presuming this would be for St. Giles, as they were C of E. > > 2. On the 1881 Census, I find a Charles Saltmarsh age 57 (so, born > 1824) listed in Parkhurst Prison, IOW Carisbrooke, with his birth > place given as Bishops Stortford. Of course I am wondering if this is > the same Charles. What is the likelihood of Bishops Stortford and > Great Hallingbury (about 2 miles apart) being listed as the birth > place for this person? I'm afraid I may be confused about parishes and > districts. > > 3. If it is possible that this is the same person, how does one find > records for a trial, crime and sentencing? I've looked at the Old > Bailey proceedings online, but there is no trial for Charles Saltmarsh > in the time frame 1871 to 1881. > > Thanks so much for your thoughts. > > Best regards, > > Carolyn Perkes >