Hi Dick Thank you for your advice. An older member of the family said she remembered "there was something about a second marriage". I took this to mean a second marriage for Mary, but as other information comes to light I think it was Arthur who married twice. There is a marriage in 1884 of Arthur SPRAGUE and Mary Ann SANDERS, this is the Mary Ann in the 1891 Census. Then there is the death of Mary Ann SPRAGUE in 1893 (age 28 yrs), and the 1895 marriage. Thus I believe the Mary Ann in the 1901 Census to be mine as her brother Arthur SWEET is living with her, so two of the children there are her step-children. This seems to sort it out now for me, although now I've found the 1895 marriage I will order the certificate. Thanks again Lorna. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dick Mathews [mailto:rm006a0005@blueyonder.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, 16 July 2008 6:45 PM > To: B & L Jones > Cc: ESSEX-UK@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Ess] Mary Ann Frances SPRAGUE (nee SWEET) > > Hello > > From the censuses it's clear that Mary is the daughter of > David and Mary Sweet (both of whom came from Cornwall) and > she was single in 1881, and shown as Arthur's wife in 1891. > Arthur is also shown as single in 1881. > As the marriage of Mary Ann Sweet and Arthur Isaac Sprague > took place in > 1895 it's very likely that one of them was married > previously. Do you have any reason to know Mary was married twice? > The MC would of course show whether one or both was widowed. > FreeBMD doesn't show any obvious earlier marriage for either of them. > > Dick Mathews > > > B & L Jones wrote: > > Hi List > > > > I am looking for the descendents of Mary Ann Frances > SPRAGUE (nee SWEET) b. > > 8 Nov 1866 Hackney Middlesex, and according to the National Burial > > Index Mary Ann Frances SPRAGUE was buried 7 Dec 1945 age 77 St Mary > > the Virgin South Benfleet Essex. > > > > Family records tell us that Mary Ann married Arthur > SPRAGUE, but she > > was possibly also married previously. There were 5 > possible children > > of this SPRAGUE marriage: Mary Ann 1885, Arthur Thomas > 1887, Gertrude > > 1890, Maud > > 1892 and Eleanor Frances 1896. > > > > I would be interested in hearing from anyone with any of > these names > > in their tree. > > > > Thank you > > Lorna > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > > Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.11/1554 - Release Date: > > 7/15/2008 6:03 PM > > > > > > > > >

Hello Everybody, I am looking for information on EDITH KENT born 1882-83, all I know about her at the moment is she married WILLIAM WADE 1902 at EPPING ESSEX and they had a daughter (Elsie) born at LOUGHTON 1915. If there is any other person researching this family or can help in any way would they kindly get in touch. Thank you. Regards, Syd

Ha ha - glad you said that Steve, I thought it said Nailer out of employ! I couldn't find a Frederick Gulson born Gt Totham Essex in the 1871 census. Diana

I am hoping that someone with access to the 1871 census might be able to give me a hand by doing a look up for me. Frederick Gulson is the person I am interested in. Although I have access to the return, I cannot make out his occupation and am hoping someone on the list might be able to see something there that I can't read. In the 1861 and 1851 census returns he was a Brickmaker but it looks as if he may have changed occupations by 1871. Thank you in anticipation. Regards, Helen

Has anyone transcribed these parishes or researched this family? I've looked at the film but it's rather messy. Here's hoping.

Hi List I am looking for the descendents of Mary Ann Frances SPRAGUE (nee SWEET) b. 8 Nov 1866 Hackney Middlesex, and according to the National Burial Index Mary Ann Frances SPRAGUE was buried 7 Dec 1945 age 77 St Mary the Virgin South Benfleet Essex. Family records tell us that Mary Ann married Arthur SPRAGUE, but she was possibly also married previously. There were 5 possible children of this SPRAGUE marriage: Mary Ann 1885, Arthur Thomas 1887, Gertrude 1890, Maud 1892 and Eleanor Frances 1896. I would be interested in hearing from anyone with any of these names in their tree. Thank you Lorna

Hello From the censuses it's clear that Mary is the daughter of David and Mary Sweet (both of whom came from Cornwall) and she was single in 1881, and shown as Arthur's wife in 1891. Arthur is also shown as single in 1881. As the marriage of Mary Ann Sweet and Arthur Isaac Sprague took place in 1895 it's very likely that one of them was married previously. Do you have any reason to know Mary was married twice? The MC would of course show whether one or both was widowed. FreeBMD doesn't show any obvious earlier marriage for either of them. Dick Mathews B & L Jones wrote: > Hi List > > I am looking for the descendents of Mary Ann Frances SPRAGUE (nee SWEET) b. > 8 Nov 1866 Hackney Middlesex, and according to the National Burial Index > Mary Ann Frances SPRAGUE was buried 7 Dec 1945 age 77 St Mary the Virgin > South Benfleet Essex. > > Family records tell us that Mary Ann married Arthur SPRAGUE, but she was > possibly also married previously. There were 5 possible children of this > SPRAGUE marriage: Mary Ann 1885, Arthur Thomas 1887, Gertrude 1890, Maud > 1892 and Eleanor Frances 1896. > > I would be interested in hearing from anyone with any of these names in > their tree. > > Thank you > Lorna > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.11/1554 - Release Date: 7/15/2008 6:03 PM > > >

Hi Folks, I will shortly be returning the Essex Brewers book which I have on loan from the library (see my original posting below). If anyone requested a lookup and hasn't received a reply please get back to me; likewise if there are any new requests. Chris Gadsby ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chris Gadsby <chris.gadsby2@virgin.net> wrote: > I have just borrowed a very interesting book via InterLibrary Loans called > "Essex Brewers and the Malting and Hop Industries of the County" by Ian > Peaty of the Brewery History Society. The book contains a wealth of > information about both Essex breweries and malthouses as well as the names > of people associated with them. > > It is fairly extensively indexed on village/ town/ pub name/ personal name > etc and I am willing to do lookups whilst I have the book on loan, time > permitting, if anyone would like me to. > Chris

Hello folks Thanks to everyone for their thoughts on this unusual name. Unfortunately I don't have a photographic image of the documents, just a transcription. I suspect that it's an incorrect interpretation of PALFER or PULFER. The fact that there were PULFERs in Ilford in 1901 (thanks Shirley!) is persuasive. Best wishes Frank South Africa

Frank: I noticed in the free bmd a "PALFER" was married and recorded as such but their first child was recorded as "PULFER". (Not your group just an example). It is possible your PUFFER was PULFER. There are Pulfers in Ilford Essex on the 1901 census. Recorded in 1895 is Herbert Leslie PULFER r. Romford. Shirley O'Donnell Essex OPC Coordinator

Hi Frank: I took a look at the PALFER line and found the marriage as you mention 1922 Reading. However, given accents etc there are lots of PULPHERs in Raunds in Northamptonshire. i.e. Leslie PULPHER b. 1891 - Thrapston Northamptonshire/Huntingdonshire - a large family on the 1891 & 1901 census. Could this be your "PUFFER" family with a little play on "sounds". Just another alterative. Margaret (b. 1894 r. Romford district) is in Chadwell Heath in 1901 in the parish of St Chads with mother Hannah & sister Lillian no sign of dad. Mother & sister born Scotland. Shirley O'Donnell Essex OPC Coordinator

It might well be, Frank. Try saying PALFER with a colonial accent! It could well be heard as PUFFER. Could you see if there are any children in the indexes with surname Palfer or Puffer and mothers maiden name Early? Anne On 14 Jul 2008, at 10:30, Frank Lyn wrote: > Greetings all > > My g-uncle William King EARLY died in the Cape Province, South > Africa, in > 195I. In his will he left modest bequests to 4 nieces; one in South > Africa, > two in Cumberland, and one in Essex who is identified as "Mrs PUFFER > of > Ilford". She did receive her bequest. I can't figure out who this > lady was > (is?) as this surname appears nowhere in my records. > > However, one of William's known nieces, Margaret Jamieson N. EARLY, > married > Leslie H. PALFER in Reading in 1922. Some of my EARLYs definitely > lived in > the Ilford, Romford, Chadwell area. Was Mrs PUFFER actually Mrs > PALFER? > > Any suggestions or clues most welcome. > > Best wishes > > Frank Early > South Africa > > > >

Brenda, map by separate mail cheers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda" <grifferty@bigpond.com> To: <Essex-UK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:14 PM Subject: [Ess] Weeley nr Colchester > Please could anyone give me info on the village of Weeley around the early > 1800s? > It looks small now so must have been tiny in those days. > My grandfather THOMAS CARDY was born there c1825. His father was > Nathaniel. I have no other info at this stage. > Thanks from Oz > Brenda > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 2516 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, l know this is a long shot but if anyone has access to the above PR`s would they very kindly look for the following baptism c1796 John SYCAMORE Any help or guidance would be very much appreciated. Kind regards Robert

Please could anyone give me info on the village of Weeley around the early 1800s? It looks small now so must have been tiny in those days. My grandfather THOMAS CARDY was born there c1825. His father was Nathaniel. I have no other info at this stage. Thanks from Oz Brenda -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 2516 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

I wonder if someone can tell me if there are existing copies of the PRs or BTs for Gestingthorpe. I am hoping to find the details of the marriage of Margaretta Walker and William Haydon in 1807. I gather there are unpublished copies of Phillimore marriages but they don't have witnesses mentioned and I gather that they should have been listed by that date. Regards beth in NS

Lawrence, the real answer to questions about Henry's takeover of the abbeys is more related to greed for money and land than anything else, I fear. He was not a nice man! The awful effects of the closures on the poor and the sick weren't remedied to any extent until Elizabeth's Poor Laws were introduced. Was the Waltham Abby infirmary still operating in the 1530s? Annie

Greetings all My g-uncle William King EARLY died in the Cape Province, South Africa, in 195I. In his will he left modest bequests to 4 nieces; one in South Africa, two in Cumberland, and one in Essex who is identified as "Mrs PUFFER of Ilford". She did receive her bequest. I can't figure out who this lady was (is?) as this surname appears nowhere in my records. However, one of William's known nieces, Margaret Jamieson N. EARLY, married Leslie H. PALFER in Reading in 1922. Some of my EARLYs definitely lived in the Ilford, Romford, Chadwell area. Was Mrs PUFFER actually Mrs PALFER? Any suggestions or clues most welcome. Best wishes Frank Early South Africa

Hello Everyone I am new to this list, I am from Ontario, Canada and helping a friend start her family research. Her ancestor James RIVERS, b 1863 to parents William RIVERS and Elizabeth HARPER in Great Bardfield came to Ontario in 1880. Hoping to find other people researching this family. Have found a Caroline GILDER name appearing many times on the LDS site for the FamilySearch Pedigree Resource File - hoping to contact her. Hope to hear from another RIVERS researcher. Thank-you Sandy Ogden-Denby

Hi all. Not exactly genealogy I admit, but this is to do with our intercessing predecessors. If you get the chance to pass by Waltham Abbey this week, you might want to make a brief visit to the Abbey Gardens (which surround the parish church in the centre of town), where WA Hist Soc are conducting a week-long archaeological dig, looking for structural evidence of the abbey infirmary and its adjoining chapel, dedicated in 1188 (or thereabouts - grey cells need zapping). We started on Saturday, and will be on site every day, 10am - 4pm(ish), until next Sunday (I'll be there Wed - Sat all day). There is no admission fee, and the parish centre, right next door, sells teas/coffees/ice creams/toasted tea cakes each afternoon if it's sunny. We're doing this partly to support and promote National Archaeology Week, and our effort represents one of only nine different events under the NAW umbrella in the whole of Essex, in seven different locations around the county. I believe our event is the only actual Essex dig, although our good friends Enfield Archaeological Society are also supporting NAW in Hertfordshire in a similar way. More info, including links to the NAW website, via a link on our homepage: www.walthamabbeyhistoricalsociety.org.uk Finds so far include some hand-made clay marbles(?), half a trivet handle, and a 1699 penny - not to mention extensive medieval rubble, oyster shells, and horse, pig and dog bones! We're next to a modern work of art called "The Ancestor", a log carved to represent a medieval monk - but how exactly a monk could have produced descendants is (almost) beyond me! Maybe the answer has something to do with why Henry 8 knocked all the abbeys and monasteries down in the first place. Cheers, Lawrence No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1541 - Release Date: 08/07/2008 19:50