We recently had an enquiry for quite a lot of information from a researcher on the DYER/FELTON/DREDGE/NUNN families. They were looking for them in "ROMFORD" Essex. Reading the original email I think many "overseas" researchers are assuming when they see a registration district for an entry in the Civil registration that the registration district is the "place" where their ancestor was born/married/died. As seasoned researchers of the UK system, we know that is not the case. I am referencing this enquiry as the enquirer mentions several times that their ancestor was b/m/do in Romford, which in fact is not true. This is the registration district and not the place of be/me/do. In itself, this is confusing to newer researchers. When you look at the free civil registration site and you bring up a possible ancestor, click on the registration district (in this case Romford ) the drop down menu shows you just how many towns/parishes are recorded as "ROMFORD". This is not always apparent to researchers, particularly if you do not read the introduction pages. Looking at the census of this enquiry 1891/1901 the children were born in Rainham Essex, which of course has a registration district of ROMFORD. Again they mention a marriage in 1907 at "ROMFORD". This is just a FYI for researchers trying to find their ancestors in the civil registration districts. By the way I misread the DYER name as DYE (there were no DYER burials as requested on the St Andrews CD burial disc) new glasses appear to be in order ;-). Shirley O'Donnell Essex OPC Coordinator

In 1881 census Ancestry has them down as CANNON 1881 England Census about Ernest Cannon Name: Ernest Cannon Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Son Father's Name: Josiah Mother's Name: Lucy Gender: Male Where born: Pleshey, Essex, England Civil Parish: Pleshey County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: The Street Registration district: Chelmsford Sub registration district: Great Waltham ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Amy Cannon Clayden Cannon 10 Ernest Cannon 8 Josiah Cannon 34 Laura Cannon 5 Lucy Cannon 37 Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1765; Folio: 5; Page: 2; 1891 England Census about Ernest Bohannan Name: Ernest Bohannan Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Son Father's Name: Josiah Mother's Name: Lucy Gender: Male Where born: Pleshey, Essex, England Civil Parish: Pleshey County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: .village Occupation: ag.lab. Registration district: Chelmsford Sub registration district: Great Waltham ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Amy Bohannan 10 Clayden Bohannan 20 Ernest Bohannan 18 Josiah Bohannan 44 Laura Bohannan 15 Lucy Bohannan 47 Where born: High Easter, Essex, England Lucy Bohannan 4 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1388; Folio 6; Page 4; 1901 England Census about Ernest Bohannon Name: Ernest Bohannon Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Pleshey, Essex, England Civil Parish: Wickford Ecclesiastical parish: Wickford Town: Wickford County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: London Road Occupation: agricultural Engineer's fitter Condition as to marriage: M ( married) Registration district: Billericay Sub registration district: Wickford ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Ernest Bohannon 27 Albert W Heard 4 Edith M Heard 13 Emma B Heard 16 Emma S Heard 36 George Heard 38 Lavra M Heard 6 Minnie Heard 10 Richard G Heard 8 Sidney C Heard 1 Charles W Wood 17 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1668; Folio: 56; Page: 3. Since Emma heard is in the same household as him, might be a good bet for the marriage - but it looks like he was married before - his marital condition is M not S But I can't find another marriage for him - and there don't appear to be any children on FreeBMD after 1911 with either surname of the possible wives. HTH anyway Anne On 29 Jul 2008, at 01:10, nap1er@optusnet.com.au wrote: > > My granduncle, Ernest Bohannon, was born at Pleshey in 1873. From > the freeBMD he appears to have married at Billericay in 1910 to > either Emma Heard or Annie Whally. Does anyone know of Ernest or his > family? > > Kindest regards > > Wayne McBride

My granduncle, Ernest Bohannon, was born at Pleshey in 1873. From the freeBMD he appears to have married at Billericay in 1910 to either Emma Heard or Annie Whally. Does anyone know of Ernest or his family? Kindest regards Wayne McBride

Wayne, Have you found him on the 1891 census - his parents are Josiah and Lucy? Pat Robertson

This site may also be of use, as it lists some of the Hornchurch & Romford Trade directories etc: http://romford-hornchurch.co.uk/Hornchurch/HistoryofHornchurch.shtml Incidentally, I was at St Andrews on Sunday evening. Best Kevan -----Original Message----- From: essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Essex OPC Coordinator Sent: 28 July 2008 15:18 To: Essex-Rootsweb Subject: [Ess] Dye family of Hornchurch I have the cd of Burials for St Andrew's Hornchurch. This is the Norman Church between Upminster Bridge and downtown Hornchurch. entry: James DYE of Hornchurch age 74 buried Oct 23 1886. Source and grave # available if required. This is the only DYE entry in this record. Shirley O'Donnell Essex OPC Coordinator ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HI Robin, Try searching the LDS Family History Library Catalogue, you will find the link for the catalogue on the familysearch home page in one of the drop down lists along the top of the page. Once there make a Place Search for both Hornchurch and also Romford, once you get a result for one of these places select from the list of results Church Records, not Church Record Indexes. Under Church Records you should get up a list of PRs. BTs and perhaps other items for the place in question and you can look for St. Andrews church records covering the relevant dates to suit you. The home page for familysearch is www.familysearch.org If you find a suitable item, then click on it and you should see details of the item, in the top right corner of the page should be a link, View Film Notes, click on that link and it will take you forward to a page of Film Number/s by which you can order a copy of the film at your nearest LDS centre for a small fee. Once the film arrives at that LDS centre you will be able to book a reader and go there to view the film. On the Familysearch home page you will find a link for finding the address of your nearest LDS centre. Remember though that the libraries at the LDS centres are run by volunteers and are therefore not open all day everyday, you may need to call at different times of the day and evening and on different days of the week until you find someone to speak too about opening hours. Those opening hours given with the address may have changed if the volunteers for that centre have changed. Regards Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. <<John Felton b 1810 -d.1900 Hornchurch Esx (His parents if found) married to Ann (Nancy?) Dredge b. 1813 - d. 1896 Romford, Esx (Her parents if found) any and all children of this couple including: Rose Ann Felton b 1856 Romford, Esx - until after 1917 likely near Romford Rose Ann married Edward Nunn at Romford, Esx bef Oct 1877 any and all children of this couple including: Ellen Caroline Nunn b1883 at Romford, Esx - died Canada 1959 she married Frederick Jospeh Dyer 7 Jul 1907 at Romford, Esx. I have the GRO certificate but am looking for any parish entries for "the Parish Church of St Andrews Parish" any and all children of this couple Rose Elizabeth 1908 Romford, Esx Frederick Edward 1910 Romford, Esx>>

I have the cd of Burials for St Andrew's Hornchurch. This is the Norman Church between Upminster Bridge and downtown Hornchurch. entry: James DYE of Hornchurch age 74 buried Oct 23 1886. Source and grave # available if required. This is the only DYE entry in this record. Shirley O'Donnell Essex OPC Coordinator

Robin, An extensive list of requests. Firstly, there is a St Andrews in Romford, and also St Andrews is the main parish church of Hornchurch. There is a CD available for the latter, regarding church burial transcriptions only. Have you any detail from freebmd, in the first instance; this is quite useful. Most people do not have any access to parish registers without actually visiting the Essex Record Office, and I believe there is also a paid service by staff and volunteers, to do look ups here. Have you tried contacting the ERO? Best Kevan -----Original Message----- From: essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RH Sent: 27 July 2008 19:53 To: Essex-UK@rootsweb.com Subject: [Ess] Hornchurch Romford Dyer Looking for any parish registries birth, baptism, marriage of death for the following: John Felton b 1810 -d.1900 Hornchurch Esx (His parents if found) married to Ann (Nancy?) Dredge b. 1813 - d. 1896 Romford, Esx (Her parents if found) any and all children of this couple including: Rose Ann Felton b 1856 Romford, Esx - until after 1917 likely near Romford Rose Ann married Edward Nunn at Romford, Esx bef Oct 1877 any and all children of this couple including: Ellen Caroline Nunn b1883 at Romford, Esx - died Canada 1959 she married Frederick Jospeh Dyer 7 Jul 1907 at Romford, Esx. I have the GRO certificate but am looking for any parish entries for "the Parish Church of St Andrews Parish" any and all children of this couple Rose Elizabeth 1908 Romford, Esx Frederick Edward 1910 Romford, Esx And any others. Thanks so much Robin H ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looking for any parish registries birth, baptism, marriage of death for the following: John Felton b 1810 -d.1900 Hornchurch Esx (His parents if found) married to Ann (Nancy?) Dredge b. 1813 - d. 1896 Romford, Esx (Her parents if found) any and all children of this couple including: Rose Ann Felton b 1856 Romford, Esx - until after 1917 likely near Romford Rose Ann married Edward Nunn at Romford, Esx bef Oct 1877 any and all children of this couple including: Ellen Caroline Nunn b1883 at Romford, Esx - died Canada 1959 she married Frederick Jospeh Dyer 7 Jul 1907 at Romford, Esx. I have the GRO certificate but am looking for any parish entries for "the Parish Church of St Andrews Parish" any and all children of this couple Rose Elizabeth 1908 Romford, Esx Frederick Edward 1910 Romford, Esx And any others. Thanks so much Robin H

Hi, My name is Rae long 7 I am looking for my gg/grandparents BENJAMIN PRICE NEWING & SUSANNAH ADAMS married in 1838 in Sandwich Kent England. I If anyone can help I would appreciate it \ Thank you Rae Brisbane Australia

Charles Fuller wrote: > Hello, > > I can now confirm that the "Family History Event" will be held at the > Barbican Centre, London on Sunday 3rd. May 2009 (see > http://www.barbican.org.uk/ ). A significant number of Family History > Societies from England and Wales have already committed to attending and > it is expected that some of the very small societies/organisations will > also be present. That's excellent news :)) Thank you :)) The main complaint that I heard from stall holders at the WDYTYA fair was the high cost. > PS: Some of the organisers are friends of mine. Obviously good people to know :)) Can this news be passed on to other lists?

Hello, I can now confirm that the "Family History Event" will be held at the Barbican Centre, London on Sunday 3rd. May 2009 (see http://www.barbican.org.uk/ ). A significant number of Family History Societies from England and Wales have already committed to attending and it is expected that some of the very small societies/organisations will also be present. Regards, Charles Fuller. PS: Some of the organisers are friends of mine. Firebird wrote: > J K gen wrote: >> As the WDYTYA live event due next year is booked for the last weekend >> in Feb 2009, there are plans to hold a Family History Event on Sunday >> 3rd May 2009 at Excel centre in London. > > Has that date been confirmed now? Last I heard it was still awaiting > confirmation. May Bank Holiday was a good date for me. > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

LUKER is a nineteenth century name in Rayleigh. There is a history society there that uses the windmill. Perhaps they would take them? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Gunn" <sue.gunn@blueyonder.co.uk> >I quote a letter from this week's local paper ( Southend on sea Essex) > > 'I wonder if anyone can assist me to track down members of these families. > > In the course of my work for a charity I have acquired a collection of old > photographs and also a cert of service in the name of Reginald Frank > George > LUKER and national ID card June 1943 in the name of Beatrice LUKER These > may > be of interest to any family members should they be living locally. I > would > be grateful if any family members cud contact me as I am unable to store > these items indefinitely due to lack of space.' >

Sorry. Subject should read Site for marriages before 1837. Shelley Shelley Cameron wrote: > Could anyone tell me if there is a site for looking up marriages before 1837 > > Thank you > Shelley In Canada > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Could anyone tell me if there is a site for looking up marriages before 1837 Thank you Shelley In Canada

Census images sent off list Heather Visit my GOODWIN and GORDON Family Tree http://heatherac.tribalpages.com CARBIS SPARROW ATTWOOLL Family Tree http://carbissparrow.tribalpages.com If you find a connection or just have a query, please get in touch --- On Fri, 25/7/08, Rae A Long <Rae_Sunshine@bigpond.com> wrote: Subject: [Ess] Benjamin Price NEWING To: Essex-uk@rootsweb.com Hi, My name is Rae long 7 I am looking for my gg/grandparents BENJAMIN PRICE NEWING & SUSANNAH ADAMS married in 1838 in Sandwich Kent England. I If anyone can help I would appreciate it \ Thank you Rae Brisbane __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html

Hello Sue I do hope someone claims these, or the owner is able to hang on to them for a little while, because the Luker's brewery was situated in Southend High Street until the early 1930s. Dick Mathews Sue Gunn wrote: > I quote a letter from this week's local paper ( Southend on sea Essex) > > > > 'I wonder if anyone can assist me to track down members of these families. > > > > In the course of my work for a charity I have acquired a collection of old > photographs and also a cert of service in the name of Reginald Frank George > LUKER and national ID card June 1943 in the name of Beatrice LUKER These may > be of interest to any family members should they be living locally. I would > be grateful if any family members cud contact me as I am unable to store > these items indefinitely due to lack of space.' > > > > If this means anything to anyone get in touch with me ASAP and I will pass > on the lady's name and addy, I have put it on the net as she may not want me > to and there is no phone number > > > > I don't know why she also mentions the NICHOLSON surname unless she has more > papers in this name > > > > Sue in Southend Essex > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1572 - Release Date: 7/25/2008 6:51 AM > > >

I quote a letter from this week's local paper ( Southend on sea Essex) 'I wonder if anyone can assist me to track down members of these families. In the course of my work for a charity I have acquired a collection of old photographs and also a cert of service in the name of Reginald Frank George LUKER and national ID card June 1943 in the name of Beatrice LUKER These may be of interest to any family members should they be living locally. I would be grateful if any family members cud contact me as I am unable to store these items indefinitely due to lack of space.' If this means anything to anyone get in touch with me ASAP and I will pass on the lady's name and addy, I have put it on the net as she may not want me to and there is no phone number I don't know why she also mentions the NICHOLSON surname unless she has more papers in this name Sue in Southend Essex

There is an IGI entry for Benjamin but this should be treated with caution, since it is a patron submission - though with an exact date, so may indicate original registers have been consulted > BENJAMIN PRICE NEWING > > Christening: > 23 OCT 1814 > St Peter'S, Sandwich, Kent, England > > Death: > > Burial: > > > > > Parents: > > Father: > DANIEL NEWING > Family > > Mother: > FRANCES > > On 26 Jul 2008, at 10:04, Rae A Long wrote: > Hi, My name is Rae long 7 I am looking for my gg/grandparents > BENJAMIN PRICE NEWING & SUSANNAH ADAMS married in 1838 in Sandwich > Kent England. > I If anyone can help I would appreciate it \ > Thank you Rae > Brisbane Australia > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hi Rae I can find only one benjamin Newing in 1841 and he is in Essex - but no wife. Unfortunately relationships and exact ages and birthplaces were not specified in this census 1841 England Census about Benjamin Newing Name: Benjamin Newing Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Gender: Male Where born: Essex, England Civil Parish: Great Clacton Hundred: Tendring County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: Bull Hill Occupation: Carpenter Registration district: Tendring Sub registration district: St Osyth Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Eura Blundon 15 John Blundon 20 Robert Glending 25 Mary Gosling 89 Mary Gosling 25 Benjamin Newing 30 Charles Riches 40 Maryann Warner 40 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 338; Book: 10; Civil Parish: Great Clacton; County: Essex; Enumeration District: 10; Folio: 25; Page: 8; Line: 24; There is a Benjamin Newing in 1851 born Sandwich but his wife is Sarah 1851 England Census about Benjamin Newing Name: Benjamin Newing Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Sandwich, Kent, England Civil Parish: Bermondsey Ecclesiastical parish: St James County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: 31 Carlton Cottages Occupation: Tanner. Journeyman Registration district: Bermondsey Sub registration district: St James ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Rosena Adams 6 Stephen Adams 4 Benjamin Newing 35 Benjamin Newing 6 Mary Ann Newing 4 Mo Sarah Newing 33 born Sandwich Susan Newing 4 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1560; Folio: 40; Page: 3; The fact that there are two 'relatives' with them named ADAMS indicates this may be your Benjamin and Susannah/Sarah. If you sent for their marriage certificate, it would give you the names of their fathers Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1838 ADAMS Susannah Eastry 5 239 Newing Benjamin Price Eastry 5 239 and the birth certificates of the children would give you their mothers name Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Births Dec 1846 (>99%) Newing Susannah Eastry 5 143 Births Dec 1844 (>99%) NEWING Benjamin Price Greenwich 5 201 Anne On 26 Jul 2008, at 10:04, Rae A Long wrote: > Hi, My name is Rae long 7 I am looking for my gg/grandparents > BENJAMIN PRICE NEWING & SUSANNAH ADAMS married in 1838 in Sandwich > Kent England. > I If anyone can help I would appreciate it \ > Thank you Rae > Brisbane Australia > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message