After 8 years and answering 263 history queries from listers, I am leaving the Essex list. I will continue to help all those with history queries via these two excellent websites: www.claveringonline.org.uk www.recordinguttlesfordhistory.org.uk Jacqueline Cooper (Mrs), M.A. Clavering Local History Recorder Chairman, Recorders of Uttlesford History Editor, Saffron Walden Historical Journal

Hello Listers, I'm looking for a marriage at Saffron Walden of Mr Catlin [possibly Thomas] & Katherine Hoy and subsequent children from about 1670. Thanks, David.

Please remember that personal comments about other Essex-UK subscribers is OFF TOPIC! Likewise for discussions on what is allowed / disallowed on Essex-UK. If you feel that you need to complain about another subscriber or what they have posted then send it to me, the Listowner, at < Essex-UK-Admin@rootsweb.com >. Any further discussion about what I have said is to be conducted off the list. There appears to be some confusion on who has joined the Essex On Line Parish Clerks project for Nazeing. I am not sure we know all the facts at the moment. It is very easy to get annoyed and to rush a reply that makes matters worse. This can soon escalate into what is know as a Flame War. Thank you to all of you who did not fan the flames. Regards Elmo. -- --Keith Elmo ELDRIDGE Essex-UK-Admin@rootsweb.com --Elmo@aphelia.co.uk --Buxworth, High Peak, Derbyshire, England. --Listowner Essex-UK-L

Can I just say that I think there have been misunderstandings all round on this one? Jacky's initial response (a justifiable desire to correct a mistake) contained words which may have not have been intended as such, but seemed to imply that she didn't think much of the OPC project, which in turn (understandably) antagonised Shirley. I am hoping she didn't mean this and perhaps we can all draw a line and move on? As a newbie, I am grateful for the work of both ladies! Hoping I don't get shot down in flames... Kind Regards Sally-Ann On the edge of Greenham Common (ironically?!) -----Original Message----- From: essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Turnidge Sent: 05 August 2008 20:41 To: jackycooper.clav78; podnsod@comcast.net; Essex-Rootsweb Subject: Re: [Ess] Essex OPC Project Wow You need a chill pill lady. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jackycooper.clav78" <jackycooper.clav78@virgin.net> To: <podnsod@comcast.net>; "Essex-Rootsweb" <ESSEX-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [Ess] Essex OPC Project > That is unnecessarily offensive, but not untypical, Ms O. It is perhaps > understandable that I should get annoyed, since once before this > organisation put me down on their website as being one of their OPC > organisers, without my permission or knowledge and for which I never > received an apology. It looked as though you were doing the same thing > again. > J Cooper (Mrs) > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, i am after help from anyone who may have some information on a LOUISA ANN LINSDALE. She gives Thaxted as her place of birth on all the census returns i can find on her on and the date is around 1831. She later married in Eton, Bucks and her fathers name on the cert is given as William Linsdale a Grocer. This is all the info i have and would like to know more about Louisa's parents if possible and if they were too from thaxted? Thanks in advance.... Karen _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile from Vodafone http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571435/direct/01/

Hi Karen, I've found a couple of family trees on Ancestry and this is what they have (all these records are not 100% true possibly) There is William Linsdale born 1807-1811 who married possibly Elizabeth Barker? born 1807. Marriage of Louisa to John Lewis plus all their descendants etc are on there. There are 2 other trees but no parents for Louisa - although there are parents for John Lewis. Let me know if you require more details. Regards Diana

Hi Cathy, I have rellies in Little Sampford who were baptised in Thaxted, so you could try there. Hope that helps, Lynne> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:24:41 -0700> From: cathy_carley@yahoo.com.au> To: essex-uk@rootsweb.com> Subject: [Ess] PHILPOTT In Essex> > GDAY:)> Trying to Find a Baptism of James PHILPOTT born circa 1750s , Thought would be in Sampford, But have those registers and saffron Walden ones in now, but cant find him> He was Buried in Little Sampford in 1824 aged 71, But cant find his baptism> Any suggestions where to look next> Thanks> Regards> Cathy:)> He Married REBECCA MOUNTFORD> > > Find a better answer, faster with the new Yahoo!7 Search. www.yahoo7.com.au/search> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Find hidden words, unscramble celebrity names, or try the ultimate crossword puzzle with Live Search Games. Play now! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/212

GDAY:) Trying to Find a Baptism of James PHILPOTT born circa 1750s , Thought would be in Sampford, But have those registers and saffron Walden ones in now, but cant find him He was Buried in Little Sampford in 1824 aged 71, But cant find his baptism Any suggestions where to look next Thanks Regards Cathy:) He Married REBECCA MOUNTFORD Find a better answer, faster with the new Yahoo!7 Search. www.yahoo7.com.au/search

This is an interesting point. I know what you meant but overall we're not living longer than our ancestors. It's just that more of us are reaching a decent age and there's less infant mortality. My 5g-grandmother reached 96. My 2g-grandmother's father, grandfather and g-grandfather all barely reached 50 but she carried on to 92. Her mother, grandmother and g-grandmother (the 96-year-old) all got into their 80s and beyond. Most of my direct line reached their 3 score-and-ten, if not more. I'm sure others also have the same to report. I wonder when the first person lived for 100 years ????? Francis Auckland, NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Firebird" <sparrer@gmail.com> To: <essex-uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [Ess] Details on Certificates > Tony Pottrell wrote: >> Forgot to add this to my earlier reply, but there's also an element of >> reminding people of their own mortality. If it's happened to their >> ancestors then there's the "then it can happen to me" aspect, >> particularly with hereditary conditions. > > Yes, well, it will happen to them, just like it did their ancestors. > No one lives for ever, although we are living longer now than our > ancestors. There was a time when getting to 50 or 60 was a great age. > Nowadays, if we see/hear of someone dying at that age, it's more a > case of s/he died young. > > Let's face it, we're born to die! > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To Ann & Heather re Claybury Asylum. I had a grandfather who worked there 1905 - 1906. I contacted the London Metropolitan Archives a few years back and the Senior Archivist, Rhys Griffith at the time sent me the following. "I can confirm we have a limited number of records relating to Claybury Hospital. One of them which may be of interest to you is the registers of officers and servants at Claybury Asylum, 1895-1912 (LCC/PH/STA/5/3-7). You are most welcome to visit London Metropolitan Archives. Details of our opening hours and location are available on our website : http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk (go to A-Z and select London Metropolitan Archives). If you are unable to undertake this work yourself, you may wish to use our Family History Research Service. This provides for a paid search by our staff, using the sources available here. You will find more information and an application form on our website, if you would like to use the service."

The Essex On Line Parish Clerks project welcomes Jacky Cooper who has adopted NAZEING. Jacky is a regular contributor to this site ad she looks forward to hearing from you if you have NAZEING Ancestors. Go to http://essex-opc.org.uk/ click on the parishes link on the tool bar; click on N and then NAZEING. There is also a URL link for this parish. Thanks, Shirley O'Donnell Essex OPC Coordinator

Yes, I know exactly what you mean. My mum watches the news avidly each day fascinated by all the murders and tragic events. She asks me to keep the newspaper for her to read all about the event and subsequent court case etc. But when I found out about my great grandmother strangling her baby granddaughter my mum didn't want to know. I was astounded. She didn't even want to read about the court case. She just said I shouldn't waste time on such a stupid pastime as genealogy. It makes me wonder if she and my father and the rest of the family all knew about it but preferred to keep it in the dark. Diana Re: I found some 'scandalous' details on my 19thC family - which I loved and so did those of my family who were interested in my research. As someone else has said, these things have made the individuals much more real to me. However I have not 'shared' these with my rather 'proper' elderly aunt, neither have I disabused her of the idea that we were descended from a famous London figure - why spoil the illusions of a life time! Oddly enough she really is not that interested in my research anyway, and was far more interested in the fact that I had bumped into someone in the Essex Records Office who went to school with one of my cousins! Regards, Gwyn

-----Original Message----- From: Francis Payne Sent: 04 August 2008 10:59 >I wonder when the first person lived for 100 years ????? Have a look in the bible - 900-odd wasn't an unusual age back in those days. Oops - didn't mean to start another thread of genealogical contention - 'onist! Lawrence No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1589 - Release Date: 03/08/2008 13:00

Steve has a good point - try making a backup copy of your unopenable data file, then rename its extension to ".txt" and then see if Notepad can display its contents. Alternatively, do a Google on the file's extension followed by the phrase "file extension" and with luck you'll find out what other programs can open the native files. Lawrence -----Original Message----- From: essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: 04 August 2008 11:24 To: Vicky Woods Cc: essex-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Ess] Updated software Hi Vicky, For new software, can I recommend Brother's Keeper? It has been around for ever and keeps on improving. And so that you can try before you buy, it is shareware. As for the data from the old software, does it have an export facility. Preferably in GEDCOM format? Nearly all modern software will import this format. If not, does it have a backup option? Sometimes backup files are just plain text files that can be manipulated in Access or Excel. And it is possible that some software will restore Personal Roots Deluxe backups as an upgrade path, but BK won't. HTH Steve Vicky Woods wrote: > I have my family tree information all stored on a very old programme called > 'Personal roots Deluxe' by Expert software. Returning to my family history > after a break I have a new computer and when I went to load the programme > and transfer all the date over the Cd for the programme will not load. The > reason is obvious that the new computer is XP and the old 98. The software > was distributed to run with windows 95. > > > > I have searched the internet for an alternative programme. I just wondered > if anyone had any suggestions. To get the data off my old computer is > going to take forever if I can't load the programme. Any advice would be > welcomed. > > > > Kind regards > > Vicky > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1589 - Release Date: 03/08/2008 13:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1589 - Release Date: 03/08/2008 13:00

Vicky, I concur with all that have made comments. There is also a great program from the LDS Church called Personal Ancestral File (PAF) that is a free download at their web site www.familysearch.org (on the home page - bottom right-hand side) no strings attached. It is dated but still can hold pictures, notes and sources. You will need a GEDCom to transfer the information. Hopefully, your local LDS Family History Center can help you with it. Good luck! Margo ________________________________________ From: essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Vicky Woods [victoria.woods@ntlworld.com] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 3:55 AM To: essex-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: [Ess] Updated software I have my family tree information all stored on a very old programme called 'Personal roots Deluxe' by Expert software. Returning to my family history after a break I have a new computer and when I went to load the programme and transfer all the date over the Cd for the programme will not load. The reason is obvious that the new computer is XP and the old 98. The software was distributed to run with windows 95. I have searched the internet for an alternative programme. I just wondered if anyone had any suggestions. To get the data off my old computer is going to take forever if I can't load the programme. Any advice would be welcomed. Kind regards Vicky ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.

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Hi Vicky, For new software, can I recommend Brother's Keeper? It has been around for ever and keeps on improving. And so that you can try before you buy, it is shareware. As for the data from the old software, does it have an export facility. Preferably in GEDCOM format? Nearly all modern software will import this format. If not, does it have a backup option? Sometimes backup files are just plain text files that can be manipulated in Access or Excel. And it is possible that some software will restore Personal Roots Deluxe backups as an upgrade path, but BK won't. HTH Steve Vicky Woods wrote: > I have my family tree information all stored on a very old programme called > 'Personal roots Deluxe' by Expert software. Returning to my family history > after a break I have a new computer and when I went to load the programme > and transfer all the date over the Cd for the programme will not load. The > reason is obvious that the new computer is XP and the old 98. The software > was distributed to run with windows 95. > > > > I have searched the internet for an alternative programme. I just wondered > if anyone had any suggestions. To get the data off my old computer is > going to take forever if I can't load the programme. Any advice would be > welcomed. > > > > Kind regards > > Vicky > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Vicky Somewhere on your new XP version there is a "wizard" which helps you load older windows versions of software to the XP..... think it is called something like compatability wizard. Go to "Help and Support" on the start up menu to find this.... when the window opens use the word compatability in the search box at the top and the first solution to come up should be "Getting older programs to run on XP" Hope this solves it for you. Best regards Heather Visit my GOODWIN and GORDON Family Tree http://heatherac.tribalpages.com CARBIS SPARROW ATTWOOLL Family Tree http://carbissparrow.tribalpages.com If you find a connection or just have a query, please get in touch --- On Sun, 3/8/08, Vicky Woods <victoria.woods@ntlworld.com> wrote: Subject: [Ess] Updated software To: essex-uk@rootsweb.com I have my family tree information all stored on a very old programme called 'Personal roots Deluxe' by Expert software. Returning to my family history after a break I have a new computer and when I went to load the programme and transfer all the date over the Cd for the programme will not load. The reason is obvious that the new computer is XP and the old 98. The software was distributed to run with windows 95. __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html

I found some 'scandalous' details on my 19thC family - which I loved and so did those of my family who were interested in my research. As someone else has said, these things have made the individuals much more real to me. However I have not 'shared' these with my rather 'proper' elderly aunt, neither have I disabused her of the idea that we were descended from a famous London figure - why spoil the illusions of a life time! Oddly enough she really is not that interested in my research anyway, and was far more interested in the fact that I had bumped into someone in the Essex Records Office who went to school with one of my cousins! Regards, Gwyn -- Gwyn Bailey OPC for Springfield, Essex 2008/8/4 Ted Vollans <ted.vollans@virgin.net>: > Hi All, > I really can't see what all the fuss is about, If you think that the cause > of death may upset people, don't post it. > Anyone that is truly interested can always ask the poster what the cod was, > and then its down to them isnt it ? > None of us come on to these lists expecting to find our ancestors as shiny > happy people that all died peacefully in their sleep do we ? > > Best Regards > Ted V > (Market Weighton) > Tedvol@HOTMAIL.COM > > Researching : Any Date, Any Reference > > VOL(L)ANS Yorkshire, (Selby) > BOL(L)ANS Yorkshire, (York, Selby) > FIRTH Yorkshire, (Leeds, Pontefract, Selby) > DUNDERDALE Yorkshire, (Leeds) > BRIGGS Yorkshire, (Selby) > WARDELL Yorkshire, (Driffield) > > AXCELL Essex, (Rochford, Southend) > HOL(L)IDAY Essex, (Wickham Bishops, Southend) > COTGROVE Essex, (Leigh o s, Southend) > GISB(E)Y Essex, (Leigh o s, Southend) > SEYMOUR Essex, (Rochford, Southend) > SHEPHERD Essex, (Rochford, Southend) > HARVEY Essex, (Rochford, Southend) > > ELVIN Norfolk, (Gt. Moulton, Banham) > BUNN Norfolk, (Gt. Moulton) > MOORE Norfolk, (Banham) > CLARKE Norfolk, (Kenninghall) > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Gwyn Bailey OPC for Springfield, Essex

Hi Vicky Rootsweb has a very useful computer list as well. I belong to it and pick up so much from other peoples queries and answers. You don't overwhelmed with emails so well worth subscribing. http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Genealogical_Computing/GEN-COMP-TIPS.html Cheers Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: Vicky Woods To: essex-uk@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:55 AM Subject: [Ess] Updated software I have my family tree information all stored on a very old programme called 'Personal roots Deluxe' by Expert software. Returning to my family history after a break I have a new computer and when I went to load the programme and transfer all the date over the Cd for the programme will not load. The reason is obvious that the new computer is XP and the old 98. The software was distributed to run with windows 95. I have searched the internet for an alternative programme. I just wondered if anyone had any suggestions. To get the data off my old computer is going to take forever if I can't load the programme. Any advice would be welcomed. Kind regards Vicky ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message