Dear Ann, My great grandmother died in Claybury in 1922. When I got a copy of her death certificate it showed her place of death (this is important- as it showed the fact that she was a patient at the hospital- therefore this information is then classed as in the public domain) I contacted the hospital, who informed me that as the information that she was a patient there they could tell me some information, but as it was less than 100 years ago this information would be limited. They could tell me the date she entered the asylum, (1915) and also that she was buried at Queens road, Chingford Mount Cemetery, London, they gave me the burial plot, but informed me that several people would have been buried in the same grave, and that it was unmarked. I will have to wait until 2022 to ask for her medical records. Goodluck with you hunt!! Eleanor

You are inviting comments, but I don't know which part of your message you would like commenting on. My first thought is that you are only quoting from indexes, therefore need to buy certificates to expand on the limited data provided by those indexes. JK On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Norm Simcock <normejs@live.com.au> wrote: > Hi > > If you have had dealings with the GRO could please comment on what I am > presuming to be an error in the marriage records. > > Frederick N COPPIN married Catherine BARKER in the first qtr 1899 in the > Hitchin Registration District. Vol 3a page 603. He was a newly appointed > station master aged 31 years at Birdbrook on the Colne Valley Railway Line. > I don't know about her past. > > Catherine died in the registration district of Chesterton in the first qtr > of 1901. Her age is given as 79 years. Vol 3b page 291. I have looked at the > original scan. > > Fred never remarried and in 1902 was appointed Station Master at Halsted, a > position he held until retirement. > > Any comments gratefully received. > >

Norm Simcock wrote: > Frederick N COPPIN married Catherine BARKER in the first qtr 1899 > in the Hitchin Registration District. Vol 3a page 603. He was a > newly appointed station master aged 31 years at Birdbrook on the > Colne Valley Railway Line. I don't know about her past. > > Catherine died in the registration district of Chesterton in the > first qtr of 1901. Her age is given as 79 years. Vol 3b page 291. I > have looked at the original scan. Could be an error but is more likely to be a totally different Catherine COPPIN. You'd need to get the marriage certificate to confirm her age on there and also the death certificate to see if the age is really 79 and not, for instance, a misread 29. It would also give her as wife of <husband's name> in the occupation column. Frederick might have been her toy boy, but I doubt it.

Hi Norm I take you mean the scan of the Index page? Don't forget the Death certs are looked at in isolation. When they are transcribed the person can only go by what they see on the cert - they don't try and get confirmation by checking with another source. Otherwise it could be a totally different Catherine Coppin. You won't really know unless you get the cert. Regards Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: Norm Simcock To: Essex List Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:41 PM Subject: [Ess] GRO Death Records - COPPIN/BARKER Hi If you have had dealings with the GRO could please comment on what I am presuming to be an error in the marriage records. Frederick N COPPIN married Catherine BARKER in the first qtr 1899 in the Hitchin Registration District. Vol 3a page 603. He was a newly appointed station master aged 31 years at Birdbrook on the Colne Valley Railway Line. I don't know about her past. Catherine died in the registration district of Chesterton in the first qtr of 1901. Her age is given as 79 years. Vol 3b page 291. I have looked at the original scan. Fred never remarried and in 1902 was appointed Station Master at Halsted, a position he held until retirement. Any comments gratefully received. Norm Simcock on a sunny winters day in Queensland. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi again Malcolm, John and Listers ! I am glad to hear that my info sent earlier was of some use - and now you have had some further useful thoughts from Malcolm ! I have included his email back in below as I want to comment on one of his points - I have numbered all these below (3 of yours and 1 of his and comment as follows:- 1) I think this fact that he had his family moving round with him is important as it shows his seniority and the fact that he was going to be there for a definite period for either a survey or a re-survey ! 2) The same for his Assistant Surveyor, whereas the "lower ranks" were either there for shorter periods, or not entitled to have families with them because of their lower status (or maybe were too young to have families yet ?) I think that the draughtsmen would have been producing the first drafts of the maps from the survey notebooks; and the labourers would have been clearing the way into more inaccessible places or carrying all the surveying implements, the measuring chains, etc. 3) Did you realise that the Ordnance Survey had always had very strong links with the Army - especially the Royal Artillery ? That is what the 'Ordnance' part of their name means ! The original purpose of the map-makers was to produce maps so that the Artillery could fire their guns more accurately ! This link went on for a long time; the OS used to have its HQ at Southampton, but it got bombed out early on in WW2 and it actually evacuated in towards the London area (!) - it came to an industrial estate at Chessington near Surbiton just a few miles down the road from where I live ! (In my mis-spent youth I went out with this rather stunning blonde whose Dad was an ex-Army major who worked at the OS !) They only moved back to Southampton after the war. 4) Yes, I agree with Malcolm that a survey would have had to be carried out before the railway was built as part of the planning process and getting an Act through Parliament; but once all the building of the railway was complete they would have had to go back and map it all again to show the exact position of the lines, the junctions, stations, signal boxes, etc., etc. ! As he has written you will probably find a good run of these maps at the ERO - the early Victorian sheets may even mention some of the surveyor's names ?? Best Wishes ! Roger. --------------------- On 7 Aug 2008, at 16:22, JFHH wrote: > Hi Malcolm, > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Mills" > <malcolm@mhmills.co.uk> >> Hello Roger and Listers >> Thanks for that useful info. >> My gggrandfather was accompanied by his family on his various tours >> of duty (as a Surveyor with the OS) elsewhere in the British Isles >> (ie Ireland, Scotland and England). Each appears to have been of 3-5 >> years >> duration............................................................. >> ................................(1) >> When living in High Ongar in 1871, his immediate neighbour (an Asst >> OS Surveyor) also lived with his family. There were others elsewhere >> in the village recorded as 'lodgers' and shown working as 'OS >> draughtsmen' and 'OS >> labourers'........................................................... >> .(2) >> From Essex records, I now notice that the the Loughton railway was >> being extended beyond Woodford to High Ongar in 1865. So he might >> have been involved with railway surveying and mapping for that >> project in some way. And I had always assumed he worked with the Army >> because one of his daughters married into the Royal Artillery whilst >> the family lived in High Ongar. Now I'm not so >> sure!!..........................(3) > > If the railway came through the neighbourhood in 1865, any survey > would have > been made prior to the legislation which enabled it being deposited > it Parliament, > so I would have thought detailed OS survey work unlikely six years > later...........(4) > But, the OS in 1871 may have just been getting around to updating > its surveys of > the area, OR this may even have been the first detailed > survey............................(4) > Look at dates of survey on the bottom of the OS maps of the time > for Essex [Essex > Record Office probably has a full run] > If your ggfather was permanently based in High Ongar, he may have > found it easy > to arrange accomodation for his assistants when a detailed survey > of the surrounding > area was being made. > www.british-history.ac.uk: > shows that map of High Ongar > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/mapsheet.aspx? > compid=55117&sheetid=3279 > was published in 1881 -had your man gone by then? > HTH > Cheers > > John Henley > researching (and not finding much time for - but always very glad > to hear of any) > HENLEY, PARKER, RAPER, [London/Middlesex] > DURDEN, PRENTICE [Essex/London/ Woolwich] , > SECKER, [Suffolk, London/Middlesex] > ROLFE, (O)RAFFERTY, EVANS, PARSONS, SYMONDS [ Berks/Hants/Wilts] > HILL [IN Staffs/Cambs/Berks] > > >> Thanks again. Any further thoughts you might have would be very >> welcome, >> Malcolm > -------------------- > On 6 Aug 2008, at 23:06, Roger Partridge wrote: > >> Hi Malcolm & Listers ! >> >> I would suggest that either (a) they were the "local" Ordnance >> Survey team >> who produced / revised the maps of that area on a regular basis ?; >> or (b) >> that they were in the area on a temporary basis to carry out a >> revision ? >> >> Is there any suggestion that they are listed as "Lodgers" which might >> mean that the latter is the case ? - or did they have their >> families with them >> which might make the former, more permanent suggestion more likely ? >> >> I hope this helps ! Best Wishes ! Roger. >> -------------------- >> On 6 Aug 2008, at 16:41, Malcolm Mills wrote: >> >>> Dear Listers >>> My gggrandfather William Anthony Lennox was a Land/Ordnance >>> Surveyor. >>> The 1871 census shows him living in High Ongar. The census also >>> shows >>> others, listed as Surveyor assistants, living close by to him in the >>> village. >>> I wonder if any one on the list has a theory or opinion as to why a >>> clutch of people working for the Ordnance Survey should be living in >>> High Ongar around 1871, >>> With many thanks >>> Malcolm H Mills >>> >> >> > > >

Hi David, If you look at SEAX (on-line holdings of ERO) there is a reference to poll tax returns the information actually tells you what survives. Following URL should take you to the page: http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/result_details.asp?intNoToDisplay=10&strOrderBy=RANK%20Desc&intOffSet=20&intThisRecordsOffSet=23 Appended is just the basic info. Regards, Diane T/A 236/1 Repository: Essex Record Office Level: Category Records in public repositories Level: Fonds MICROFILM OF ESSEX POLL TAX RETURNS Level: Item Reference Code *T/A 236/1* Dates of Creation 1377-1381

Hi Malcolm, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Mills" <malcolm@mhmills.co.uk> > Hello Roger and Listers > Thanks for that useful info. > My gggrandfather was accompanied by his family on his various tours > of duty (as a Surveyor with the OS) elsewhere in the British Isles > (ie Ireland, Scotland and England). Each appears to have been of 3-5 > years duration. > When living in High Ongar in 1871, his immediate neighbour (an Asst > OS Surveyor) also lived with his family. There were others elsewhere > in the village recorded as 'lodgers' and shown working as 'OS > draughtsmen' and 'OS labourers'. > From Essex records, I now notice that the the Loughton railway was > being extended beyond Woodford to High Ongar in 1865. So he might > have been involved with railway surveying and mapping for that > project in some way. And I had always assumed he worked with the Army > because one of his daughters married into the Royal Artillery whilst > the family lived in High Ongar. Now I'm not so sure!! If the railway came through the neighbourhood in 1865, any survey would have been made prior to the legislation which enabled it being deposited it Parliament, so I would have thought detailed OS survey work unlikely six years later. But, the OS in 1871 may have just been getting around to updating its surveys of the area, OR this may even have been the first detailed survey. Look at dates of survey on the bottom of the OS maps of the time fior Essex [Essex Record Office probably has a full run] If your ggfather was permanently based in High Ongar, he may have found it easy to arrange accomodation for his assistants when a detailed survey of the surrounding area was being made. www.british-history.ac.uk: shows that map of High Ongar http://www.british-history.ac.uk/mapsheet.aspx?compid=55117&sheetid=3279 was published in 1881 -had you man gone by then? HTH Cheers John Henley researching (and not finding much time for - but always very glad to hear of any) HENLEY, PARKER, RAPER, [London/Middlesex] DURDEN, PRENTICE [Essex/London/ Woolwich] , SECKER, [Suffolk, London/Middlesex] ROLFE, (O)RAFFERTY, EVANS, PARSONS, SYMONDS [ Berks/Hants/Wilts] HILL [IN Staffs/Cambs/Berks] > Thanks again. Any further thoughts you might have would be very welcome, > Malcolm

As the subject of Southend being bombed in WW2 was discussed recently, I thought some of you might be interested to see a (stereoscopic) photo of a house in Southend that was bombed in WW1, by an airship. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230278889241 I wouldn't normally mention eBay sales on this list, especially when I'm not the seller, but this seller has put an exceptionally clear, large picture of the photo on the sale page, which makes viewing it worthwhile. Have a look sooner rather than later though, as it's only a 3 day sale with 2 days left to go. Cheers, Lawrence

Dear Peter, Re; Essex Regiment You may not remember me, from your distant past. I was your sergeant at Basildon. Having read your interesting entry I am sending you under separate cover two lists, one is for casualties from the 44th Foot at the Battle of Alma on 20th September 1854, the other is of recruits for the Royal Essex Rifles, which non-regular regiment often fed the 44th and 56th Foot at the time of the Crimea. I do hope that they are of interest. Fred Feather, Editor, The Essex Family Historian.

Hello Roger and Listers Thanks for that useful info. My gggrandfather was accompanied by his family on his various tours of duty (as a Surveyor with the OS) elsewhere in the British Isles (ie Ireland, Scotland and England). Each appears to have been of 3-5 years duration. When living in High Ongar in 1871, his immediate neighbour (an Asst OS Surveyor) also lived with his family. There were others elsewhere in the village recorded as 'lodgers' and shown working as 'OS draughtsmen' and 'OS labourers'. From Essex records, I now notice that the the Loughton railway was being extended beyond Woodford to High Ongar in 1865. So he might have been involved with railway surveying and mapping for that project in some way. And I had always assumed he worked with the Army because one of his daughters married into the Royal Artillery whilst the family lived in High Ongar. Now I'm not so sure!! Thanks again. Any further thoughts you might have would be very welcome, Malcolm On 6 Aug 2008, at 23:06, Roger Partridge wrote: > Hi Malcolm & Listers ! > > I would suggest that either (a) they were the "local" Ordnance > Survey team > who produced / revised the maps of that area on a regular basis ?; > or (b) > that they were in the area on a temporary basis to carry out a > revision ? > > Is there any suggestion that they are listed as "Lodgers" which might > mean that the latter is the case ? - or did they have their > families with them > which might make the former, more permanent suggestion more likely ? > > I hope this helps ! Best Wishes ! Roger. > -------------------- > On 6 Aug 2008, at 16:41, Malcolm Mills wrote: > >> Dear Listers >> My gggrandfather William Anthony Lennox was a Land/Ordnance Surveyor. >> The 1871 census shows him living in High Ongar. The census also shows >> others, listed as Surveyor assistants, living close by to him in the >> village. >> I wonder if any one on the list has a theory or opinion as to why a >> clutch of people working for the Ordnance Survey should be living in >> High Ongar around 1871, >> With many thanks >> Malcolm H Mills >> > >

Thanks for the link Sue, although it came through a bit garbled - should have been http://www.geograph.org.uk/ Looks like an interesting site, and I shall explore it more when I have some free time! Lin 2008/8/4 S HILL <susans.hill@btinternet.com> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hello all,=0AA fellow researcher just sent this to me.I have had a look > and= > it looks pretty promising,thought that others may be interested > too.=0Ahtt= > p://www.geograph.org.uk/=0ASue > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Your site looks very impressive Peter, though I haven't had a proper look yet as I'm just off to work. I have one extra name for the Great War list for you - see my earlier posting to this list on 2nd August at 17.46, under the subject "Details on certificates." Cheers, Lawrence PS Don't suppose you know a Denis Layzell? -----Original Message----- From: essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Layzell Sent: 06 August 2008 22:37 To: ESSEX-UK@rootsweb.com Subject: [Ess] The Essex Regiment In 1741 the 44th Regiment of Foot also known as the East Essex Regiment was formed was formed. In 1881 it was amalgamated with the 56 the Regiment of Foot (aka the West Essex) to form the Essex Regiment. In 1954 the Essex Regiment became part of the new Royal Anglians. The 44th and then the Essex were involved in some of the best known battles including their pivotal role at Quatre Bass Waterloo. As part of my web site on Eastern Essex I have looked at 'the Essex' from a genealogical viewpoint and managed to produce 22 lists of officers and men at key points in their history including the highs and the low of Afghanistan when the entire Regiment with one exception was slaughtered outside 'Cabul'. The first list is of the initial staff of the 44th in 1741 and the final list are the men of Eastern Essex who made the final sacrifice in World War 1. Hopefully this will help genealogists trace some Essex men who just 'drop off the radar' as death and army seemed to go hand in hand at this time. For those of you who are not up with Army Regiments - Bernard Cornwell used the 44th as the model for his ficticious South Essex Regiment and the Adventures of Major Richard Sharpe who goes to all of the places that the 44th visited inclduding the real capture of the French Eagle by the 44th. I haven't found anything similar free of charge on the web so the e mail is to make you aware of it's existence if you need it in the future. http://www.essex-family-history.co.uk/localfamilyhistoryindex.htm Peter www.essex-family-history.co.uk www.essex-country-life.co.uk OPC for Burnham and the Dengie 100 Villages ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1589 - Release Date: 03/08/2008 13:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1589 - Release Date: 03/08/2008 13:00

Hi Malcolm & Listers ! I would suggest that either (a) they were the "local" Ordnance Survey team who produced / revised the maps of that area on a regular basis ?; or (b) that they were in the area on a temporary basis to carry out a revision ? Is there any suggestion that they are listed as "Lodgers" which might mean that the latter is the case ? - or did they have their families with them which might make the former, more permanent suggestion more likely ? I hope this helps ! Best Wishes ! Roger. -------------------- On 6 Aug 2008, at 16:41, Malcolm Mills wrote: > Dear Listers > My gggrandfather William Anthony Lennox was a Land/Ordnance Surveyor. > The 1871 census shows him living in High Ongar. The census also shows > others, listed as Surveyor assistants, living close by to him in the > village. > I wonder if any one on the list has a theory or opinion as to why a > clutch of people working for the Ordnance Survey should be living in > High Ongar around 1871, > With many thanks > Malcolm H Mills >

In 1741 the 44th Regiment of Foot also known as the East Essex Regiment was formed was formed. In 1881 it was amalgamated with the 56 the Regiment of Foot (aka the West Essex) to form the Essex Regiment. In 1954 the Essex Regiment became part of the new Royal Anglians. The 44th and then the Essex were involved in some of the best known battles including their pivotal role at Quatre Bass Waterloo. As part of my web site on Eastern Essex I have looked at 'the Essex' from a genealogical viewpoint and managed to produce 22 lists of officers and men at key points in their history including the highs and the low of Afghanistan when the entire Regiment with one exception was slaughtered outside 'Cabul'. The first list is of the initial staff of the 44th in 1741 and the final list are the men of Eastern Essex who made the final sacrifice in World War 1. Hopefully this will help genealogists trace some Essex men who just 'drop off the radar' as death and army seemed to go hand in hand at this time. For those of you who are not up with Army Regiments - Bernard Cornwell used the 44th as the model for his ficticious South Essex Regiment and the Adventures of Major Richard Sharpe who goes to all of the places that the 44th visited inclduding the real capture of the French Eagle by the 44th. I haven't found anything similar free of charge on the web so the e mail is to make you aware of it's existence if you need it in the future. http://www.essex-family-history.co.uk/localfamilyhistoryindex.htm Peter www.essex-family-history.co.uk www.essex-country-life.co.uk OPC for Burnham and the Dengie 100 Villages

Thanks Sue It's not my enquiry but I'd looked under every possible variation I'd found - LONSDALE, LINDSELL., etc. I'd even looked under just "William", but didn't think to try "Wm." . Wife is Elizabeth on 1841 and Mary on 1861. I can't find a second marriage within this period, so perhaps she just felt like a change of name as our ancestors so often did - just to confuse us! William is still a chimney sweep - not a grocer as apparently on his daughter's marriage certificate. I have several marriage certs.where the father's occupation is nothing like the reality (including a "Grocer" that I've never been able to find). I assume that the Eliza is Louisa Ann, looking at her age, and there is a William born about 1844, who would match up with the William LONSDALE I found in London on the 1871 census. Barbara

Hi, I am trying to find a baptism record for my 3xg gm, Jane SCRIVENER, who was born in Loughton, Essex cir 1813, according to the census. In 1841 she worked as a house servant in Hackney for her future husband John RUMENS - whom she married in 1846 in Southwark, Surrey. There were plenty of SCRIVENERs in the Bermondsey & Southwark area, so I am wondering if there is a link back to that group somewhere, but ideally need to find her birth first, and maybe her parents' marriage. >From her marriage cert, her father was Thomas SCRIVENER, a cornfactor. Witnesses were her father and 3 other SCRIVENERs: Anne, Hayter & Mary-Ann. There is a Hayter SCRIVENER with wife Mary-Anne in London in 1841/1851 - Hayter b. Bermondsey. Also in 1851, John & Jane had a visitor in the form of Jane's "aunt", Anna SCRIVENER, an unmarried annuitant aged 40, born Essex. Note Jane was listed as age 37 at this point. Was Anna then the other witness? I wonder whether she too hailed from Loughton? Any help much appreciated, thank you. Jacqui Other surname interests: ======================= DEWDNEY & DUDNEY - mainly Sussex & Surrey KNAPP - Sussex & Surrey HEASMAN - Sussex BANFIELD - Sussex RUMENS - Essex, Middlesex, Surrey, hopeful connection to Kent BOORMAN - Kent ROSE - Kent SELMAN - Wilts primarily SPACKMAN - Wilts VALENTA - Middlesex, Prague THOMPSON - Portsmouth HAM, Rotherhithe KEN NICHOLS - Hants HARBERT - Portsmouth area, Isle of Wight MARTIN - Portsmouth area MIDGLEY - W. Yorks (Bradford area) PICKLES - W. Yorks KELLET - W. Yorks WALKER - W. Yorks GREENWOOD - W. Yorks (Halifax RD) STANSFIELD - W. Yorks WILSON - Manchester, possibly Ireland before that BELLINGHAM - Lancs KITCHEN - Lancs TOZER - Devon, also Dundee & Winnipeg, Canada HERD / HEARD - Devon LOVELL - Devon BIDGOOD - Devon GRAHAM - Dundee, Ireland MCNEIL & MCEWAN - Winnipeg - would like to find Canadian-resident descendents of John Thomas TOZER & Elizabeth GRAHAM Plus my husband's: SMITH, CAMERON, SOPPIT, ROBERTS, TOSH, ADDISON, ANDERSON, WESTON, FORBES, DON, DAKERS, MURRAY, BEATTIE etc mostly in Angus, with some forays into Perthshire & Kincardinshire.

1841, they are here HO107/328/24 = Thaxted Folio 42, Page 7 Newbiggin ----- Original Message ----- From: "barbara scott" <ellescott77@ntlworld.com> To: "Karen Massey" <karen_staines@hotmail.com>; <essex-uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [Ess] Linsdale Family of Thaxted >I can find a William LINSDALE, born 1808 Thaxted on the 1861 census, wife > Mary. Occupation Chimney Sweep. Could he have changed occupations? > > Unfortunately the 1851 census returns for this and many surrounding areas > are missing and I can't see the couple on the 1841. > > On the 1871, there is a William L. (transcribed by Ancestry as L, but > could > also be T or J) Lonsdale, born Thaxted 1844, living in Bermondsey. On the > actual census image it looks more like LINSDALE than LONSDALE. Did Louisa > have a brother? No sign of him as LINSDALE or LONSDALE on the 1861 census > > Barbara > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I can find a William LINSDALE, born 1808 Thaxted on the 1861 census, wife Mary. Occupation Chimney Sweep. Could he have changed occupations? Unfortunately the 1851 census returns for this and many surrounding areas are missing and I can't see the couple on the 1841. On the 1871, there is a William L. (transcribed by Ancestry as L, but could also be T or J) Lonsdale, born Thaxted 1844, living in Bermondsey. On the actual census image it looks more like LINSDALE than LONSDALE. Did Louisa have a brother? No sign of him as LINSDALE or LONSDALE on the 1861 census Barbara

Dear Listers My gggrandfather William Anthony Lennox was a Land/Ordnance Surveyor. The 1871 census shows him living in High Ongar. The census also shows others, listed as Surveyor assistants, living close by to him in the village. I wonder if any one on the list has a theory or opinion as to why a clutch of people working for the Ordnance Survey should be living in High Ongar around 1871, With many thanks Malcolm H Mills

Hello Jacky, Have just had a look at www.recordinguttlesfordhistory.org.uk And wanted to complement you and the others on an excellent and useful site. Regards, Judy in Oz -----Original Message----- From: essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jackycooper.clav78 Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2008 6:20 PM To: Shirley & Phil O'Donnell; Essex-Rootsweb Subject: Re: [Ess] Essex OPC Project Cooper is a common name! I have already had one email in error on this, so please note this is not me. I have nothing to do with this organisation and never will. I am proud to be LOCAL HISTORY RECORDER for Clavering (a system that has been in place in Essex since the 1970s) and run the Recorders of Uttlesford History, a bona fide federation of historians on the ground in their parishes (which is now 10 years old). We cover the history of NW Essex very thoroughly - please see new website as below. Jacky Cooper www.claveringonline.org.uk www.recordinguttlesfordhistory.org.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley & Phil O'Donnell" <podnsod@comcast.net> To: "Essex-Rootsweb" <ESSEX-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 8:10 PM Subject: [Ess] Essex OPC Project The Essex On Line Parish Clerks project welcomes Jacky Cooper who has adopted NAZEING. Jacky is a regular contributor to this site ad she looks forward to hearing from you if you have NAZEING Ancestors. Go to http://essex-opc.org.uk/ click on the parishes link on the tool bar; click on N and then NAZEING. There is also a URL link for this parish. Thanks, Shirley O'Donnell Essex OPC Coordinator ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message