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    1. Re: [Ess] Old Essex photos
    2. Jenny DA
    3. Hi Frank, You might find what you want here but you may have to pay to use the images or buy a book of them I am not sure. There would appear to be 9 pages of photos of Colchester here. http://www.francisfrith.com/search/england/essex/colchester/photos/ Once you have viewed these for Colchester try searching the site for the other places that you mention in you message below. You could also try searching one of the online bookshops, such as amazon.co.uk or whsmith.co.uk for books of old photos of each place or of Essex as a whole if that would interest you too. Amazon will send books etc., out of the UK. I have 2 or 3 books of old photos that I bought from amazon.co.uk for places of interest to me for my research and find them very useful and inexpensive. A word of warning though if you intend putting old photos from another site or from a book on a website of your own, even within your family tree online, then make sure you get permission from the author or photo site owner before doing so or you may run into copyright problems. Regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain. <<Can anyone suggest sites where I might find pictures of: > > Military Road, Colchester 1860s > Mersea Road, " " > The Woolpack Inn, Botolph Street, Colchester 1860s > Chadwell Heath, near Ilford / Romford 1880s > St Mary's Parish Church (Anglican) High Road, Great Ilford 1880s > Frank Early >>

    11/07/2008 08:25:58
    1. [Ess] Historical Directories
    2. Graham Taylor
    3. http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/ is a site for Whites/Pigots/Kellys Directories etc and can be very useful for tracing tradesmen and businesses at the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th Century. Search by county, then directory. I in many cases the list will include a Post Office publication.. Regards Graham

    11/07/2008 12:10:08
    1. [Ess] (no subject)
    2. The Taylors
    3. unsubscribe

    11/06/2008 06:49:07
    1. [Ess] Old Essex photos
    2. Frank Lyn
    3. Greetings all Several of my ancestors were born, lived and died in Essex during the 1800s. I'd love to be able to include contemporary photos with the text I'm compiling. Can anyone suggest sites where I might find pictures of: Military Road, Colchester 1860s Mersea Road, " " The Woolpack Inn, Botolph Street, Colchester 1860s Chadwell Heath, near Ilford / Romford 1880s St Mary's Parish Church (Anglican) High Road, Great Ilford 1880s Best wishes from summery South Africa Frank Early

    11/06/2008 03:21:56
    1. Re: [Ess] Old Essex photos
    2. podnsod
    3. If you take a look at the East of London Family History Society's web site there is a postcard photo of St Mary's Church High Road Ilford (then Great Ilford) c.1905 which I conributed to the site together with another picture from Martin Williams. http://www.eolfhs.org.uk >From the side tool bar hit parishes and choose Ilford , it also gives a description of the parish. Shirley O'Donnell Coordinator Essex OPC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Lyn" <franklyn@tiscali.co.za> To: <ESSEX-UK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 3:21 AM Subject: [Ess] Old Essex photos > Greetings all > > Several of my ancestors were born, lived and died in Essex during the > 1800s. > I'd love to be able to include contemporary photos with the text I'm > compiling. Can anyone suggest sites where I might find pictures of: > > Military Road, Colchester 1860s > Mersea Road, " " > The Woolpack Inn, Botolph Street, Colchester 1860s > Chadwell Heath, near Ilford / Romford 1880s > St Mary's Parish Church (Anglican) High Road, Great Ilford 1880s > > Best wishes from summery South Africa > > Frank Early > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/06/2008 02:42:52
    1. [Ess] Jenkyns from Childerditch
    2. Harriet May Taylor
    3. Posting my JENKYNS interests from Childerditch Essex. Richard Evander JENKYNS born c1765 ? Worcester married Anna Eliza nee PIPER St Marylebone London. Its possible Anna Eliza was Richard's second wife. Richard was the son of William Evander Jenkyns and Sarah nee NEW. Richard died April 1847 and the family moved eventually to London, USA and New Zealand. Children were: Louisa born 1809 Childerditch William P born 1811 Childerditch Richard born 1814 St Marylebone London Sarah born 1815 Childerditch Ann born 1818 Childerditch Margaret born 1825 Childerditch Sabina born 1822/23 Childerditch Phoebe born 1819 Little Warley, Essex Charles Watson born 1826 Martha born 1829/30 Childerditch Ivan born 1832 Childerditch Edward born 1835 Childerditch Interested in hearing from anyone with connections to this family. Sincerely, Harriet

    11/05/2008 02:37:43
    1. Re: [Ess] Place name in Herts.
    2. Heather
    3. Hello Lawrence, That was the Epping Green I was referring to in my original reply. Also, like you, I never received some of the other mails on this subject that were sent to the list. Best regards Heather Visit my Family Tree's at GOODWIN and GORDON http://heatherac.tribalpages.com CARBIS SPARROW ATTWOOLL http://carbissparrow.tribalpages.com JOLLIFFE MOULAND http://jolliffemouland.tribalpages.com/ --- On Tue, 4/11/08, La Greenall <elde.worth@ntlworld.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [Ess] Place name in Herts. Hello Peter. I meant the Epping Green in Essex, just south of Harlow. However, your notice of the one near Hertford is rather interesting as regards the original enquiry. I just wonder why I didn't receive your earlier email on the subject, or John Henley's earlier email, for that matter. The EG near berkhamsted I know little about. I did manage to find one or two bits on the web that might be conduits of further info. We'll start with http://tinyurl.com/5bh4q4 (The hertfordshire-genealogy.co.uk's Little Berkhamsted page), as it includes a scan of Bryant's map of the locality, including Epping Green which is clearly shown as an outlying part of that village/town. With that in mind, this link then look promising: http://www.littleberkhamsted.org.uk/index.php Unfortunately it stopped responding at 23.00 - seems like it got turned off! This Geograph photo is followed by a modern map of the area: http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/157669

    11/05/2008 07:05:27
    1. Re: [Ess] Family Search
    2. Firebird
    3. Dianadiluca@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone know how to enter information onto Family Search? Can records > on there be edited if you find a mistake? No. The best you can do is submit the correct information which means that some people will end with multiple entries. You have to send the information to the LDS in Salt Lake City, but I'm not sure if they'll accept information from a non member of their church.

    11/05/2008 07:05:17
    1. Re: [Ess] Family Search
    2. La Greenall
    3. Diana, I suppose the best way to publish corrected information would be to create a new website or webpage of your own! Or you could always post it here - Rootsweb caches all its posts and they remain internet-searchable for years afterwards. Brad is, of course, quite correct. A block of data can be quality-controlled by two different people with two different agendas, and their respective conclusions can be wildly different. Whether either will take on board the other's 'corrections' depends on the scope of their own agenda. But at least they happily allow us all to study it! Regards, Lawrence -----Original Message----- From: essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brad Rogers On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 05:21:01 EST Dianadiluca@aol.com wrote: Hello Dianadiluca@aol.com, > on there be edited if you find a mistake? People have reported errors, but the LDS aren't, or don't appear to be, greatly interested in correcting them. <snip>... Having said that, the LDS site is a useful resource, when used with care. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.6/1766 - Release Date: 04/11/2008 08:26

    11/05/2008 04:12:43
    1. Re: [Ess] Family Search
    2. Brad Rogers
    3. On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 05:21:01 EST Dianadiluca@aol.com wrote: Hello Dianadiluca@aol.com, > on there be edited if you find a mistake? People have reported errors, but the LDS aren't, or don't appear to be, greatly interested in correcting them. Even some of the transcribed data is wrong, as I've found out from personal research. Understandable of course; We all make mistakes. Also, with their woprk on the new site ramping up, it's probable that the current site will take a lower priority. If not now, but in the future. In any event, we have to remember that the primary purpose of the LDS database is not a genealogical one, but one of religious ordnance. Some of the submitted trees leave a lot to be desired, with parents dying years before children were born, or children being born before their parents, for example. Having said that, the LDS site is a useful resource, when used with care. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Success defined by acquisition stinks Money is Not Our God - Killing Joke

    11/05/2008 03:31:43
    1. Re: [Ess] 1901 census lookup
    2. Jenny DA
    3. Bob asked: <<would anyone know if the Birchanger parish records would be on line? >> Hi Bob, The LDS have a film of the parish registers for Birchanger covering years 1688-1943, there may be gaps in those years I can't say. The Film number to order a copy of the film by is 1471884 and the PRs are on items 26-32 on that film. With this Film number you could order a copy of the film at your nearest LDS centre for a small fee, once the film arrives there you will be notified and can go and view the film at that centre over the following month after it's arrival. You can find the address of your nearest LDS centre by going to the home page of the familysearch site where there is a section on searching for such addresses. The LDS library catalogue also shows that they have Parish Chest material for Birchanger for years 1680-1862 on film. Parish chest material can be useful as it contains such items as Vestry minutes and overseers rates and can contain names of parishoners making payments to the church or asking for parish relief etc., The film number for this is 16657247 items 17-19. Again there may be gaps in the year coverage on the film. Regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain.

    11/05/2008 03:04:54
    1. Re: [Ess] Family Search
    2. Hi all, Does anyone know how to enter information onto Family Search? Can records on there be edited if you find a mistake? Regards Diana

    11/04/2008 10:21:01
    1. Re: [Ess] Place name in Herts.
    2. La Greenall
    3. Hello Peter. I meant the Epping Green in Essex, just south of Harlow. However, your notice of the one near Hertford is rather interesting as regards the original enquiry. I just wonder why I didn't receive your earlier email on the subject, or John Henley's earlier email, for that matter. The EG near berkhamsted I know little about. I did manage to find one or two bits on the web that might be conduits of further info. We'll start with http://tinyurl.com/5bh4q4 (The hertfordshire-genealogy.co.uk's Little Berkhamsted page), as it includes a scan of Bryant's map of the locality, including Epping Green which is clearly shown as an outlying part of that village/town. With that in mind, this link then look promising: http://www.littleberkhamsted.org.uk/index.php Unfortunately it stopped responding at 23.00 - seems like it got turned off! This Geograph photo is followed by a modern map of the area: http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/157669 Studying the contours around Epping Green shows it to be lying on the top of a roughly east-west ridge above the Lea Valley, which flows eastwards a little to the north. Several tributary streams flow northwards from the ridge into this stretch of the Lea, in more or less parallel courses that seem to separate the settlements of Bayford, Little Berkhamsted, and Essendon, all three of which have the centre of their settlements perched on local 'promontories' of the ridge, keeping to about the 100m contour. Notably, a series of farmsteads are also perched on the 'noses' of several smaller outcrops of the ridge between these settlements, yet at the same height, thus extending a line of settlement which seems to mark a midway point between the floodplain and marshland below, and the exposed heathland (or wild forest) above, generally speaking. (This is a very similar arrangement to the Cobbin Valley farming area between Waltham Abbey and Epping in Essex, where a similar study shows local ancient farmsteads sited on local 'promontories' (minor outcrops) of the ridges surrounding the valley, at roughly regular distances and mostly either just below or just above the 300 foot contour, each one placed on or near to a small stream that flows down to Cobbins Brook. In this case, these streams flow roughly towards each other, the ridges above the valley being in fact two 'fingers' of a larger ridge. But I'm getting too far off T!) Epping Green, the one in Herts, seems to lie beyond this line of settlement, on a sort of remote plateau at the top of the ridge. It would thus seem to have possibly been settled after the more established villages on the ridge brows below, though Tyler's Causeway (shown on both the Geograph and the Bryant maps) may complicate this if it is indeed an ancient trackway, which the map (even modern ones) seems to suggest. I suspect that its east-west section south of Epping Green is a diversion (probably due to development or expansion of Epping Green Farm), and that it would originally have gone east-north-eastwards, following the line of the local administrative boundary towards Old Claypits Farm on the road east from Epping Green to Broxbourne. If this is correct, then the causeway would more or less follow the highest point of the ridge along its length, including a small summit just south of the above farm, which would have been a very sensible path to take back in the days when the ridge was 'wilder' than it is today. (Further along the ridge to the west, on the road from Essendon to Welham Green, is a hamlet called "Wildhill," whilst to the east, just north of Ashendene Farm - which can just be seen on the right edge of the Geograph map - is a featureless place called "The Wilderness"- ooer!) Another possibility, especially when looking at the Bryant map, is that the causeway was a drover's track. These would have been extremely wide (just imagine a herd of cattle being driven along, especially in relatively open countryside). The cattle would have been driven from the west, and looking at Bryant's map it is easy to imagine that the track actually branched into several forks below Epping Green Farm, some heading east, some north-east, and some in between. Therefore, Epping Green could have been sited on this (possibly) ancient trackway (or drover's track, quite possibly just as ancient) at a point where it acted as a route to the settlements (or rich pastures) of Lt. Berkhamsted and Bayford, neither of which would have been visible from this point, being slightly downhill, below the horizon. In this case, Epping Green could be as old as the main settlements. However, whilst there might well have been some sort of isolated 'marker' or 'outpost' there to show the way to the villages below, an actual settlement might not have arrived till later, as its name suggests, though an Anglo-Saxon name proves nothing, as I discuss further below. In other words, I take the meaning of this Epping to be the same as the Epping in Essex, meaning the 'settlement of the upland people'. Where these people came from (and who considered them to be 'upland') is not as easy to guess at as it was with Epping in Essex (see my earlier post); they could have come from any of the main villages or, indeed, from similarly sited settlements on the other side of the ridge, the nearest candidate being Newgate Street (which again lies on a local outcrop of the ridge, a little above the 100m contour, between Grimes Brook and what seems to be called Pons brook (though 'Ponsbourne' might rather mean 'the bridge over the stream'), both of which feed into Cuffley Brook to the south. But the Green's association with Little Berkhamsted probably answers this question. Very briefly, stepping back for a moment to look at this upland area in general, the 100m contour only seems to act as a focus for settlement where the gradient is higher than a certain amount; when the slopes are very gentle no such line of settlement is obvious. The settlement of Bayford may reflect this; it is a little below the 100m contour, but at a point where the slopes below are relatively gentle (compared with Lt. B and Essendon), with no prominent brow for the settlement to sit on. The feeling would be of a people coming to the area via the largest local river, settling its surrounding ridges in such a way that they can look out over the valley from a high point that is near a local source of water, but not so high as to become isolated from the community at large. This pattern seems to have extended along tributaries and minor watercourse as time went on. The names of the places would suggest that this was an Anglo-Saxon thing, but I suspect that it's much older than that, possibly Iron Age or earlier - a study of the Roman camp at Cheshunt Park in relation to its local contours will soon show that the Romans had exactly the same idea - its site has a commanding position above a great curve of the Lea Valley all the way from below Cheshunt, right around to Ware, and on to Hertford. This would be very valuable to an occupying military force which sought to keep an eye on the indigenous local brutes, settled along the valley sides below. The very existence of this Roman fort strongly suggests that there were locals settled in the valley below to keep a thumb on. It also seems to suggest that local traffic would then have travelled along the valleys rather than the ancient ridgeways, which didn't seem to be as overlooked by the Romans. Perhaps the Romans effectively made the tops of the ridges (being above their military camp) a no-go area, causing them to become wildernesses for many centuries? If I'm right about the settlements being broadly pre-Roman, then their broadly Saxon names must suggest either a recolonisation, or an invasion and displacement of the locals, after what used to be called the Dark Ages. If the Angles and Saxons merely mingled with the already-present locals, then why don't the placenames reflect this? Did the locals not have names for their settlements? Apparently not. Perhaps the places once had dual names, both local and A-S, for a time, but the A-S ones survived because the newcomers wrote things down in charters and deeds whilst the locals didn't. But I apologise for being so extremely off-topic (genealogy, that is) - but the original enquiry was for the identification of a placename! Try as I might, I can't find any name in the Epping Green (Herts) area on a 1:25,000 scale map that could be twisted into Liewseppinge. I would also suspect that any reference to this Epping Green would have included the word Green (unless it dated to a time before this Epping had a green, whenever that may have been); therefore I still think that Liewseppinge was most likely in Essex after all. I would still like to see a photo or scan of the document in question! Cheers, Lawrence -----Original Message----- From: JFHH [mailto:johnfhhgen@uwclub.net] Sent: 04 November 2008 19:13 To: Spring; La Greenall Cc: essex-uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Ess] Place name in Herts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spring" <spring@surfbvi.com> > Lawrence > > I asked the Clerk to Little Berkhamsted and Hertingfordbury Parish > Councils if there was any historic connection between his Epping Green > and the Eppings a few mile away in Essex, but he knows of none. > > Peter Has anyone tried the VCH [Victoria county History] of Herts? It should be online at British History Online - it is: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/catalogue.aspx?type=1&gid=16 but sadly http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43638&strquery=eppin g#n3 has nothing more than this: Epping Green, a hamlet, lies 1 mile south of the village, and another hamlet, Howe Green (probably Le Hoo of the 15th century), lies a mile to the north. Epping House, to the west of Epping Green, was the property of William Horne, attorney-general, who died in 1860. It now belongs to Mr. B. H. Henderson. (fn. 3) and A house was licensed as a Presbyterian meetingplace in Little Berkhampstead in 1672, and one at Epping Green was certified as a place of worship for Protestant Dissenters in 1810. (fn. 53) From: 'Parishes: Little Berkhampstead', A History of the County of Hertford: volume 3 (1912), pp. 427-430. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43638&strquery=eppin g. Date accessed: 04 November 2008. From: 'Parishes: Little Berkhampstead', A History of the County of Hertford: volume 3 (1912), pp. 427-430. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43638&strquery=eppin g. Date accessed: 04 November 2008. ------- Google maps shows both Epping Green Herts, just south of Little Berkhamstead, and Epping Green, Epping, Essex. regards John Henley No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.6/1766 - Release Date: 04/11/2008 08:26

    11/04/2008 07:26:01
    1. Re: [Ess] 1901 census lookup
    2. Donna
    3. Bob, There is a Walter Sapsford, single man, born c1875 in Birchanger in the 1901 census at the Colchester Garrison (he was a Private)... could this be your man? Let me know if you want the image. Also, are you sure that his wife is Ellen or Alice Henrietta? I see the marriage of an Alfred or Albert *William* Sapsford to either Ellen Lowles or Alice Henrietta Tierney in St Saviour, Southwark, 1895, however there is a marriage of an Alfred Walter Sapsford to either Alice Maude Blake or Alice Warner in Bishops Stortford in 1905. Donna Essex, UK -----Original Message----- From: essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Bob Stephenson Sent: 05 November 2008 00:14 To: Essex-UK@rootsweb.com Subject: [Ess] 1901 census lookup Hello evryone, could i please ask if someone would do a 1901 census lookup for me on Ancestry. The person i am after is Albert Walter SAPSFORD born Birchanger, Essex 1875. With him would possable be his wife Ellen or Alice Henrietta. Sorry, i know nothing about the woman. If found could i please have the census image. Thankyou for the help. And would anyone know if the Birchanger parish records would be on line? Bob

    11/04/2008 06:28:13
    1. [Ess] 1901 census lookup
    2. Bob Stephenson
    3. I have received the census information on Alfred W SAPSFORD and i would like to thank Anne and Carol for taking the time to look for Alfred. Bob

    11/04/2008 01:31:23
    1. [Ess] 1901 census Lookup
    2. Bob Stephenson
    3. I am sorry. I mistakenly entered the incorrect first name. The name should read Alfred W SAPSFORD b: 1875 at Birchanger. Sorry Bob

    11/04/2008 12:53:11
    1. [Ess] 1901 census lookup
    2. Bob Stephenson
    3. Hello evryone, could i please ask if someone would do a 1901 census lookup for me on Ancestry. The person i am after is Albert Walter SAPSFORD born Birchanger, Essex 1875. With him would possable be his wife Ellen or Alice Henrietta. Sorry, i know nothing about the woman. If found could i please have the census image. Thankyou for the help. And would anyone know if the Birchanger parish records would be on line? Bob

    11/04/2008 12:14:03
    1. [Ess] NEPHEW,VAUGHAN,CARTER,SMALL,WARNER strays in Wiltshire 1851
    2. Thelma Wigley
    3. HO107/1833 Chiseldon, Wiltshire CENSUS 1 Page 1 Martha Hatt, widow, 83, Fund Holder, b. Liddington John NEPHEW, 45, Plasterer, b.Wanborough, Wilts Eliza, his wife, 39, b. Ingram, Essex Emily, 3, b. Westminster St.John, Mddx Eliza, 2, b. Badbury, Wilts Louisa, 5 months, do Joseph Nephew, 43, Plasterer, do HO107/1836 Christian Malford, Wiltshire CENSUS 2 Page 2/F749 Jelly Butcher John Heath VAUGHAN, son-in-law, 9, scholar, b. South End, Essex head: Thomas Andrews, Inn Keeper & Tea Dealer HO107/0001 Misc. Chute, Wiltshire Page 13/F534 Upper Chute William CARTER, 36, Farmer 500 acres, b. Gt.Claverdon, Essex Eliza, 33, b. Coggeshall, Essex Eliza, 11, b. Chute, Wilts. Mary, 10, do Ellen, 9, do Ann, 8, do William, 6, do Fanny, 5, do John, 4, do Henry, 2, do Ann Muffet, 38, Governess, b. Middleton, Norfolk Eliza North, svt, 20, House Servant, b. Chute, Wilts. George Humphries, svt, 20, Farm Svt., do John Hoare, svt, 22, do b. Fosbury Page 36/F546 George SMALL, 35, Ag.Lab., b. Silchester, Hants Caroline, 38, b. Illingham, Essex William George, 10, scholar, b. Wood End, Hants Ellen Creasey, niece, 12, scholar, b. Mortimore Charles Hewson, svt, 27, Farm Svt., b. Chute, Wilts. Frank Saxton, svt, 13, Ag.Lab., do Thomas Goodman, svt, 12, Farm Svt., b. Shipton Thomas Smith, svt, 14, do b. Chute, Wilts Page 37/38 F.546 Mason James WARNER, visitor, 28, mrd, Footman, b. Malden, Essex head: Henry Pierrepont, Privy Counsellor

    11/04/2008 09:27:39
    1. Re: [Ess] Place name in Herts.
    2. Spring
    3. I was so pushed for time, that rather naughtily I added my discovery of Epping Green, Herts, to the end of a post concerning Colchester's hospitals and asylums (in the best sense of the word), then afterwards found that Epping House, Herts, had been used until recently as a boarding school for emotionally and behaviourally disturbed children and young people. The topics were not quite so far apart after all.:-) Peter JFHH wrote 4/11/08 > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spring" <spring@surfbvi.com> >> Lawrence >> > I asked the Clerk to Little Berkhamsted and Hertingfordbury Parish >> Councils if there was any historic connection between his Epping Green >> and the Eppings a few mile away in Essex, but he knows of none. >> > Peter > Has anyone tried the VCH [Victoria county History] of Herts? > It should be online at British History Online - it is: > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/catalogue.aspx?type=1&gid=16 > but sadly > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43638&strquery=epping#n3 > > has nothing more than this: > Epping Green, a hamlet, lies 1 mile south of the village, and another > hamlet, Howe Green (probably Le Hoo of the 15th century), lies a mile > to the north. Epping House, to the west of Epping Green, was the > property of William Horne, attorney-general, who died in 1860. It now > belongs to Mr. B. H. Henderson. (fn. 3) > and > A house was licensed as a Presbyterian meetingplace in Little > Berkhampstead in 1672, and one at Epping Green was certified as a > place of worship for Protestant Dissenters in 1810. (fn. 53) > > From: 'Parishes: Little Berkhampstead', A History of the County of > Hertford: volume 3 (1912), pp. 427-430. URL: > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43638&strquery=epping. > Date accessed: 04 November 2008. > > From: 'Parishes: Little Berkhampstead', A History of the County of > Hertford: volume 3 (1912), pp. 427-430. URL: > http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43638&strquery=epping. > Date accessed: 04 November 2008. > ------- > Google maps shows both Epping Green Herts, just south of Little > Berkhamstead, and Epping Green, Epping, Essex. > > regards > John Henley >> -------- Original Message --------> Subject: Re: [Ess] [MDX] Asylum >> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:01:02 -0400> From: Spring <spring@surfbvi.com> >> [snip] >> > Re. "Place name in Herts.", Lawrence: squinting over my copy of the >> 1842 edition of Moule's map > of >> Hertfordshire revealed a village south of Little Berkhampstead (sic) >> called Epping Green, >> containing Epping House, and a google located it as just "10.6m" from >> Epping. >> www.ukvillages.co.uk/village/epping%20green-hertfordshire >> > Peter Moll> Tortola, BVI

    11/04/2008 09:23:26
    1. Re: [Ess] Place name in Herts.
    2. Spring
    3. Lawrence I asked the Clerk to Little Berkhamsted and Hertingfordbury Parish Councils if there was any historic connection between his Epping Green and the Eppings a few mile away in Essex, but he knows of none. Peter -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Ess] [MDX] Asylum Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:01:02 -0400 From: Spring <spring@surfbvi.com> To: Neil & Jan Hearn <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com>, Rootsweb: Essex UK <essex-uk@rootsweb.com> CC: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com [snip] Re. "Place name in Herts.", Lawrence: squinting over my copy of the 1842 edition of Moule's map of Hertfordshire revealed a village south of Little Berkhampstead (sic) called Epping Green, containing Epping House, and a google located it as just "10.6m" from Epping. www.ukvillages.co.uk/village/epping%20green-hertfordshire Peter Moll Tortola, BVI La Greenall wrote 27/10/2008 [snip] > all these Epping places have been in Essex for as long as the > county has existed. They all originally came under the one parish of > Epping, with its historic settlement and medieval parish church at what > is now called Epping Upland. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Colleen > Sent: 28 October 2008 01:01 > To: Heather; essex-uk@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Ess] Place name in Herts. > > Good work, Heather. Epping Green and Epping Upland are in Essex now and > I'd imagined that they always were. Does this mean that they were in Herts > at one time? Or are they listed under Herts because they're near the > county? > > Colleen

    11/04/2008 07:39:37