You can search the index at http://www.1901censusonline.com/census.asp but all you can search is the name or address.To see details you need to buy units You can also find it on Genes Reunited and Ancestry and some counties on FindmyPast but you will need to buy units or have a subscription on these HTH Anne HTH Anne On 28 Dec 2008, at 12:25, Sally-Ann Jay wrote: > Hello all > > > > Can anyone tell me which website has the best free access index for > the > 1901? By easiest, I mean the one which gives you most information - > I have > noticed in the past that some give more than others but having had a > fairly > long break from my family history I have forgotten which, & now find > that > there are many more options - I'm sure the last time I looked there > were > only a couple of places to search the census! I think there was one > in > particular which would "confirm" links if you entered more than one > name in > a household. > > > > And as a secondary question (not an easy one to answer I suspect) - > which > gives the cheapest access to the full information? > > > > Thank you in advance > > > > Sally-Ann Jay > > (working on JAY in Essex & East London - and now USA!) > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

All Can anyone help please I am researching the following - John Bailey b.1806 Great Bentley, Essex, married about 1830 to Hannah b. 1801 St Osyth, Essex they had a daughter Sarah Bailey b.1833 St Osyth, Essex all are listed in the 1841 census. Eric Gibson

Hi Lori, hope this helps. Name: Dudley Barton Jayne Year of Registration: 1894 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Greenwich County: Greater London, Kent, London Volume: 1d Page: 1035 Name: Gladys Alice Jayne Year of Registration: 1898 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Camberwell County: Greater London, London, Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 854 1901 England census Name: Duwiley B Jayne Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895 Relation: Son Father's Name: Arthur F C Mother's Name: Alice M Gender: Male Where born: Kent, England Civil Parish: Edmonton Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Edmonton Sub registration district: Edmonton ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Household schedule number: 217 Household Members: Name Age Arthur F C Jayne 33 Grocer At Home Surrey Alice M Jayne 36 Surrey Duwiley B Jayne 6 Kent Gladys A Jayne 2 Surrey Kathleen Prescott 33 Saleswoman Surrey Name: Arthur Frederick K Jayne and Name: Alice Mary Prescott Year of Registration: 1892 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Croydon County: Greater London, Kent, Surrey Volume: 2a Page: 398 Name: Arthur Frederick K Jayne Year of Registration: 1868 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Croydon County: Greater London, Kent, Surrey Volume: 2a Page: 188 Jackie Lori Brown wrote: > Hello list! > > Does anyone have any ideas on whether the name "Dudley" might be a short form or nickname of something else? I have a picture from circa 1915 that clearly says greetings from Dudley Jayne.....There is some connection to Thurstans of Ilford. Jayne is the maiden name of Thurstans' wife but I cannot find any reference to Dudley in any research done on Jayne or Thurstans family. A search of census etc has come up empty. I would say this fellow was in his 20's at the time the picture was taken. Any thoughts? > > Thanks > Lori > _________________________________________________________________ > Drag nÆ dropùGet easy photo sharing with Windows LiveÖ Photos. > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/photos.aspx > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Clarence George JAY is registered Mar qtr. 1968 in Windsor age 93 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sally-Ann Jay" <sally-ann@chairwoman.plus.com> To: "'Essex-Rootsweb'" <ESSEX-UK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 2:47 PM Subject: [Ess] Death Problem! > Hello all > > > > Thanks for your help to date & hopefully you can help with this as well. > > > > My G-grandfather was Clarence George JAY born 1874 in West Ham, Essex > (later > East London of course.) > > After a lot of searching I've found his birth and two marriages though not > all his children, I suspect. > > > > I am having difficulty finding his death, which was in Berkshire (Reading, > I > think) in approximately 1968. I think part of the problem may be that he > dropped the Clarence at some point (this is a guess). However, I can't > remember what name he did use - George is not ringing any bells. I also > think it possible that his death was registered by someone outside the > family so the details may not be right anyway. > > > > Do you have any suggestions as to how to do this? I was hoping to find > some > sort of index which I could search. > > > > Please forgive me if these are basic questions - I am completely > self-taught, have no family who remember any of this & by necessity > operate > on very little money! > > > > Sally-Ann Jay > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Lori, I found this person on Ancestry: Dudley Barton Jayne, born 1894, Oct-Dec, Greenwich, Kent, Vol 1d page 1035. There are numerous references to a D Jayne in various parts of Essex in the phone books. Regards Diana Re: Does anyone have any ideas on whether the name "Dudley" might be a short form or nickname of something else? I have a picture from circa 1915 that clearly says greetings from Dudley Jayne.....There is some connection to Thurstans of Ilford. Jayne is the maiden name of Thurstans' wife but I cannot find any reference to Dudley in any research done on Jayne or Thurstans family. A search of census etc has come up empty. I would say this fellow was in his 20's at the time the picture was taken. Any thoughts? Thanks Lori

Hello list! Does anyone have any ideas on whether the name "Dudley" might be a short form or nickname of something else? I have a picture from circa 1915 that clearly says greetings from Dudley Jayne.....There is some connection to Thurstans of Ilford. Jayne is the maiden name of Thurstans' wife but I cannot find any reference to Dudley in any research done on Jayne or Thurstans family. A search of census etc has come up empty. I would say this fellow was in his 20's at the time the picture was taken. Any thoughts? Thanks Lori _________________________________________________________________ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/photos.aspx

Hello all Can anyone tell me which website has the best free access index for the 1901? By easiest, I mean the one which gives you most information - I have noticed in the past that some give more than others but having had a fairly long break from my family history I have forgotten which, & now find that there are many more options - I'm sure the last time I looked there were only a couple of places to search the census! I think there was one in particular which would "confirm" links if you entered more than one name in a household. And as a secondary question (not an easy one to answer I suspect) - which gives the cheapest access to the full information? Thank you in advance Sally-Ann Jay (working on JAY in Essex & East London - and now USA!)

All Can anyone help please I am researching the following - Samuel GIBSON b.1801 Essex, married about 1825 to Lydia COOK b. 1801 Essex they had a son James GIBSON b.1833/2 St Osyth Essex Eric Gibson

Yes David, "in law' was a term used for step-relatives, half-relatives and relatives by marriage and 'adopted' ( though there was no formal adoption before 1927) It seems it covered anyone who was considered a relative by law or custom - so covered a lot more than we understand by the term today. The illegitimate children would have been informally adopted often by their mother's new spouse. HTH Anne On 28 Dec 2008, at 11:37, david chambers wrote: > Good morning all, > I am finding on a lot of census return's illegitimate children are > down as 'in law' > is this a common practice? > many thanks > David

Good morning all, I am finding on a lot of census return's illegitimate children are down as 'in law' is this a common practice? many thanks David

For Eric: LDS Film #1565773, Item #1 Parish Register of Marriages: Entry # 110 Page 37 Date: 1821, 25 Dec Groom: Samuel Gibson, bachelor of St Osyth [age not stated] Bride: Lydia Cook, spinster of St Osyth [age not stated] Witnesses: Mary Anne Gray, William Gray Curate: Jos. Territt The bride, groom and witnesses all signed with their mark.The curate signed his name. *************************************** Did James Gibson have a brother names Charles b abt 1831? If so, I may have him in my tree. Kate Haushalter Toronto, Ontario, Canada > > I am researching the following - Samuel GIBSON b.1801 Essex, married about > 1825 to Lydia COOK b. 1801 Essex they had a son James GIBSON b.1833/2 St > Osyth Essex > Eric Gibson

In a message dated 28/12/2008 11:38:49 GMT Standard Time, david.chambers24@btinternet.com writes: I am finding on a lot of census return's illegitimate children are down as 'in law' is this a common practice? David, In-law was a commonly used term for step-children, illegitimate or not. Jennifer

I receive the digest as an email but the format it comes in is as separate attachments which I have to open. These then give me header, topic, item and footer as separate documents. How do I receive it in a more readable format? Thanks, Gail Delahaye

Many thanks for the helpful replies I have received, especially from John and Heather. Between those two most helpful people, they've negated any need to lead us off-topic. After 12 years, an undergraduate qualification in local history, and an article in preparation for The Local Historian, I am all too aware of the difficulties of family history research, as well as the practicalities of mailing lists (I joined one in the month it had 500 messages posted, hence my wariness of joining several at once). It is this knowledge of the difficulties that leads me to try to assist others with their brick walls, and I've found few better ways over the years I've been here than by tapping into the rich vein of knowledge that the luminaries of this list offer. A very merry Christmas to the helpful people of the Essex mailing list! Adrian > Why not subscribe briefly to Genbrit-L, the General British enquiry list, as this is a multi-county > enquiry, and post the brickwalls there. > There are some knowledgeable people on there. > Subscribe to the *List* in the usual way via Rootsweb. > It is gatewayed to the unmoderated Genbrit Newsgroup, so be prepared for some sharp advice as well > as kindly advice. > > But worth it for the knowledge :-) > Cheers > > John Henley

Hello Adrian, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Gray" <adrian.gray@path.ox.ac.uk> > Gentlemen, > > I've just been sent a series of brickwalls that a distant relation has > encountered. There's about five, and they range across the country from Dorset > to Norfolk, via Kentish Town. > I'd rather not post each one to the appropriate county list as I'll be forever > subscribing and unsubscribing to the things. Would it be acceptable if, just > this once, in the hope of general advice I posted them on the one county list I > do regularly frequent, or do you think that's too likely to create > precedents,problems? I realise I may get better advice on specific lists, but > I'm not sure I have the time to go through the mall... > > Your advice would be much appreciated. Many thanks, > > Adrian > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Why not subscribe briefly to Genbrit-L, the General British enquiry list, as this is a multi-county enquiry, and post the brickwalls there. There are some knowledgeable people on there. Subscribe to the *List* in the usual way via Rootsweb. It is gatewayed to the unmoderated Genbrit Newsgroup, so be prepared for some sharp advice as well as kindly advice. But worth it for the knowledge :-) Cheers John Henley researching (and not finding much time for - but always very glad to hear of any) HENLEY, PARKER, RAPER, [London/Middlesex] DURDEN, PRENTICE [Essex/London/ Woolwich] , SECKER, [Suffolk, London/Middlesex] ROLFE, (O)RAFFERTY, EVANS, PARSONS, SYMONDS [ Berks/Hants/Wilts] HILL [IN Staffs/Cambs/Berks]

> could I suggest you preface your multi post with a firmly worded > reminder that responders should not click "reply to all" unless they are > themselves subscribed to all the lists, but to edit the "to" field so that > only the list(s) they are subscribed to remain? This should avoid the real > nuisance of cross-posting - rejection of messages sent inadvertently by > non-subscribers. I got the impression (but I might be wrong) that Adrian wanted to post all his brickwalls here, on this list only, even though they're not Essex-related, in the hope that we Essex subscribers might be able to help. Jan _________________________________________________________________ Are you a PC?  Upload your PC story and show the world http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/122465942/direct/01/

If they are you say Brick walls, then it is a good chance that general info from Essex researchers will not prove fruitfull. No-one said that family history was quick and easy so if you really want some help solving your problems, you may well be better off joining the local lists. Merry Christmas David South Woodham Ferrers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Gray" <adrian.gray@path.ox.ac.uk> To: <essex-uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 5:22 PM Subject: [Ess] Calling Elmo/Dudley > Gentlemen, > > I've just been sent a series of brickwalls that a distant relation has > encountered. There's about five, and they range across the country from > Dorset > to Norfolk, via Kentish Town. > I'd rather not post each one to the appropriate county list as I'll be > forever > subscribing and unsubscribing to the things. Would it be acceptable if, > just > this once, in the hope of general advice I posted them on the one county > list I > do regularly frequent, or do you think that's too likely to create > precedents,problems? I realise I may get better advice on specific lists, > but > I'm not sure I have the time to go through the mall... > > Your advice would be much appreciated. Many thanks, > > Adrian > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ESSEX-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Adrian As Jan said, it may be that you will be indulged at this festive season. If so, could I suggest you preface your multi post with a firmly worded reminder that responders should not click "reply to all" unless they are themselves subscribed to all the lists, but to edit the "to" field so that only the list(s) they are subscribed to remain? This should avoid the real nuisance of cross-posting - rejection of messages sent inadvertently by non-subscribers. Best wishes Caroline > -----Original Message----- > From: essex-uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:essex-uk- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Gray > Sent: 21 December 2008 17:22 > To: essex-uk@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Ess] Calling Elmo/Dudley > > Gentlemen, > > I've just been sent a series of brickwalls that a distant relation has > encountered. There's about five, and they range across the country from > Dorset > to Norfolk, via Kentish Town. > I'd rather not post each one to the appropriate county list as I'll be > forever > subscribing and unsubscribing to the things. Would it be acceptable if, > just > this once, in the hope of general advice I posted them on the one > county list I > do regularly frequent, or do you think that's too likely to create > precedents,problems? I realise I may get better advice on specific > lists, but > I'm not sure I have the time to go through the mall... > > Your advice would be much appreciated. Many thanks, > > Adrian > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK- > admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

> I've just been sent a series of brickwalls that a distant relation has > encountered. There's about five, and they range across the country from Dorset > to Norfolk, via Kentish Town. > I'd rather not post each one to the appropriate county list as I'll be forever > subscribing and unsubscribing to the things. Would it be acceptable if, just > this once, in the hope of general advice I posted them on the one county list I > do regularly frequent, or do you think that's too likely to create > precedents,problems? Hi Adrian, Probably best to ask the List Admin if it's acceptable or not (email address is at the bottom of each posting). IMHO, if you and your rellie have both come to brick walls by normal routes then you're likely to need some local knowledge to break them down, which really means subscribing to the individual area and/or surname lists for a short while. Having said that, I'd be inclined to say "Go for it" as it's fairly quiet here lately, but I'm not presuming to speak for the rest of the list, and others may disagree. Season's greetings, Jan _________________________________________________________________ Get Windows Live Messenger on your Mobile http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000001ukm/direct/01/

Gentlemen, I've just been sent a series of brickwalls that a distant relation has encountered. There's about five, and they range across the country from Dorset to Norfolk, via Kentish Town. I'd rather not post each one to the appropriate county list as I'll be forever subscribing and unsubscribing to the things. Would it be acceptable if, just this once, in the hope of general advice I posted them on the one county list I do regularly frequent, or do you think that's too likely to create precedents,problems? I realise I may get better advice on specific lists, but I'm not sure I have the time to go through the mall... Your advice would be much appreciated. Many thanks, Adrian