Hi Dennis, I don't know if you have sent for this Birth cert ( to confirm parentage) but it is a contender. Births Mar 1868 (>99%) Galley John Henry Mile End 1c548 Margaret Taylor (Toronto) To: "Dennis Galley" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [Ess] John GALLEY > On 15 April 2011 01:59, Dennis Galley <[email protected]> wrote: >I apologize if this is a repeat, however, I am >> having a difficult time tracking the birth of John GALLEY, born @ >> Whitechapel, about 1868. I have tried joining the LONDON-L list and the >> Middlesex_County_UK-L lists, but am not receiving any responses to my >> "subscribe" e-mails.

Hello everyone Could SKS advise me which site is the most reliable source for UK telephone directories to include for 1920s 1930s especially but also for ensuing decades. Unless I have misunderstood somewhere along the line, I have found that some sites give to understand in their blurbs that historical directories are available but on trial that this is not so, and really refers to past periods in recent decades, while others might have just one or two counties, and no more. Thanks Dennis Switzerland _____ De : [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] De la part de [email protected] Envoyé : vendredi 15 avril 2011 09:00 À : [email protected] Objet : ESSEX-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 94

Hello Fellow Listers I have found a notice taken from the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administration) 1861-1941 recorded for Louise Cecilia KNAPP 1915. It reads KNAPP Louise Cecilia of Salmons Farm Great Bardfield near Braintree Essex widow died 26 November 1915. Administration (limited) London 20 December to Elizabeth Brickmore (wife of Herbert Bickmore). 390 pounds. I have two questions, would Salmons Farm be the name of the property or is it a farm belonging to a family by the name of Salmon also I am not clear on what information the rest of this entry means. Did she die without a will is that what Adminstration means. I look forward to any help and comments Thank you Jenny

A wee bit more information regarding this service, in addition to Judy's link to the downloadable forms. You can obtain excellant, A3 in some cases, photocopies for any entries identifiable with an exact date on ALL of the films or ducments held by the LDS at Salt Lake City (their central library), not just those which have been previously indexed by the LDS on the IGI which is only a TINY fraction of their holdings. Two years ago I received 7 photocopies for baptisms, marriages and burials within 5 weeks of ordering from Australia, the cost then was just A$14.00. The indexes were from the Sussex Family History Society, which I was then a member, none of these entries were then and are still not on the IGI. So it is quite possible to repeat this process for Essex provided the LDS do HAVE the films available, and YOU can quote the film number, date reference, type of record and the names. hope this helps, cheers Bob in Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay DONALD CLARK" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 7:14 PM Subject: [Ess] Ordering copies from Salt Lake City > My friend has recently (end of 2010) ordered some photocopies by the > method > suggested on this list. It worked perfectly but did take some weeks. I > had > visited the Family History Centre in London and they told me about the > process. > > You can print the order form from one of the drop boxes on the front page > of > the OLD website. It takes a bit of searching for and I'm sorry but I > can't > remember exactly where it is. The requests for copies have to be for IGI > entries taken from the original registers. ie you have to find your > person > on the OLD site on the IGI and it has to say taken from the registers and > NOT entered by a member of the church! I am currently unsure if this > process works with the NEW Beta search. I can't see why not as all the > necessary batch numbers/ call numbers are also on the new search. > > There is a minimum number for the copies requested. (I think it is eight > but this may not be correct). You then fill in your card details and they > will take about two dollars per copy which will vary according to exchange > rates at the time. I think this is quite a bargain considering they have > to > find it, copy it and post it. > > Kay > > > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> > how do we know the film number if the record is not in the IGI???? Easy. Go to www.familysearch.org (which is now the new site - not a pilot any more) and click on the "Library Catalog" tab. Search for the place name you are interested in. A list of categories will appear. Click on the one you are interested in and it will give you a list of the relevant resources. Click on one and full details will be shown, including the film number. HTH Caroline

Hello Dennis, Ancestry have British phone books covering Essex from 1880-1984. Historical Directories usually refer to directories such as the Post Office, Kelly's, Whites' and Pigot's Local and Commercial Directories. Regards, Jennifer

thank you, Caroline, my head is muddled from a long and trying day, I must have missunderstood the post as advice to finding individuals rather than complete parish copies. still, when one doesn't know even the parish-even the county/shire for certain, that returns us to the original problem. if I seem impatient, I am starting to be, I've been struggling with research for 20 years and recently found my health to be failing severely. at this point in time my generation in our family are, at best, mostly still putting chikdren through school-middle through college, and I may die before anyone is ready to take on the research. I'd like to have found the people who have caused me the most difficulty; my 3x and 4x great grandmothers, Hannah Smith b. 12 Dec. 1785 of Colchester and Elizabeth Richards b. abt 1758+-2yrs of Colchester and possibly Lawford, my 6x great grandparents Matthew Hawkins b. abt 1685 of Colchester and possibly Coggshall and Hannah Gage b. abt 1685 of Colchester. not to mention people outside of Essex in England and even further affield, people in pre WWI Europe. I can see that I can order some records, though I have no proof that any of these people were born where they have, or seem to have, connections, and all of the places mentioned have many parishes. it will not be easy to sort the right parish out. Cornelia On Thu 04/14/11 11:21 PM , "Caroline Bradford" [email protected] sent: > > how do we know the film number if the record is not in the IGI???? Easy. Go to www.familysearch.org [1] (which is now the new site - not a pilot any more) and click on the "Library Catalog" tab. Search for the place name you are interested in. A list of categories will appear. Click on the one you are interested in and it will give you a list of the relevant resources. Click on one and full details will be shown, including the film number. HTH Caroline Links: ------ [1] http://www.familysearch.org

how do we know the film number if the record is not in the IGI???? On Thu 04/14/11 2:40 PM , "Robert Campbell" [email protected] sent: A wee bit more information regarding this service, in addition to Judy's link to the downloadable forms. You can obtain excellant, A3 in some cases, photocopies for any entries identifiable with an exact date on ALL of the films or ducments held by the LDS at Salt Lake City (their central library), not just those which have been previously indexed by the LDS on the IGI which is only a TINY fraction of their holdings. Two years ago I received 7 photocopies for baptisms, marriages and burials within 5 weeks of ordering from Australia, the cost then was just A$14.00. The indexes were from the Sussex Family History Society, which I was then a member, none of these entries were then and are still not on the IGI. So it is quite possible to repeat this process for Essex provided the LDS do HAVE the films available, and YOU can quote the film number, date reference, type of record and the names. hope this helps, cheers Bob in Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay DONALD CLARK" To: Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 7:14 PM Subject: [Ess] Ordering copies from Salt Lake City > My friend has recently (end of 2010) ordered some photocopies by the > method > suggested on this list. It worked perfectly but did take some weeks. I > had > visited the Family History Centre in London and they told me about the > process. > > You can print the order form from one of the drop boxes on the front page > of > the OLD website. It takes a bit of searching for and I'm sorry but I > can't > remember exactly where it is. The requests for copies have to be for IGI > entries taken from the original registers. ie you have to find your > person > on the OLD site on the IGI and it has to say taken from the registers and > NOT entered by a member of the church! I am currently unsure if this > process works with the NEW Beta search. I can't see why not as all the > necessary batch numbers/ call numbers are also on the new search. > > There is a minimum number for the copies requested. (I think it is eight > but this may not be correct). You then fill in your card details and they > will take about two dollars per copy which will vary according to exchange > rates at the time. I think this is quite a bargain considering they have > to > find it, copy it and post it. > > Kay > > > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email [3] > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] [4] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] [5] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] [6] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] [7] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Links: ------ [1] mailto:[email protected] [2] mailto:[email protected] [3] https://webmail5.userservices.net/parse.php?redirect=http://www.netintelligence.com/email [4] mailto:[email protected] [5] mailto:[email protected] [6] mailto:[email protected] [7] mailto:[email protected]

it is said that many of the parish records for Essex are not in the IGI. those tend to be my ancestor's records. in fact, those tend to be a lot of people's ancestor's records. if we knew what the batch and film number was, we'd be able to trace our ancestry, but we can't because someone either didn't think that the specific church record should be in the IGI, or because at some point during an upgrade, FamilySearch dropped a number of records off the site-I can mention at least 5 records, but no-one (especially familysearch) will believe me because they aren't there anymore. perfect catch 22. Cornelia On Thu 04/14/11 2:14 AM , "Kay DONALD CLARK" [email protected] sent: My friend has recently (end of 2010) ordered some photocopies by the method suggested on this list. It worked perfectly but did take some weeks. I had visited the Family History Centre in London and they told me about the process. You can print the order form from one of the drop boxes on the front page of the OLD website. It takes a bit of searching for and I'm sorry but I can't remember exactly where it is. The requests for copies have to be for IGI entries taken from the original registers. ie you have to find your person on the OLD site on the IGI and it has to say taken from the registers and NOT entered by a member of the church! I am currently unsure if this process works with the NEW Beta search. I can't see why not as all the necessary batch numbers/ call numbers are also on the new search. There is a minimum number for the copies requested. (I think it is eight but this may not be correct). You then fill in your card details and they will take about two dollars per copy which will vary according to exchange rates at the time. I think this is quite a bargain considering they have to find it, copy it and post it. Kay ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email [1] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] [2] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] [3] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Links: ------ [1] http://www.netintelligence.com/email [2] mailto:[email protected] [3] mailto:[email protected]

Hi Ian, I was born in London, England and stem from the Wivenhoe Essex branch, the surname BRIMER is only a guess as the writing on the marriage certificate is hard to read. I know of two PITTUCK branches, mine is the Wivenhoe Essex line, the other is a Hadleigh Suffolk line, both branches go back to mid 1760's but we can not join them together. There are a lot more PITTOCKs in the Suffolk branch then the Essex branch but there are a few of my family in Ipswich Suffolk too. I wouldn't be surprised if my PITTUCK line didn't started as PITTICK or PITTOCK, I just don't know where to start searching next. None of the PITTOCK's in Australia are connected to my branch, the little bit of research I have done on them shows they are from the Suffolk branch. If you come across a John PITTICK / PITTUCK / PITTOCK @ 1803 that was caught smuggling and had his boat the 'Good Intent' condemned, that's mine, lol. I have researched this area too but nothing that gives a place of birth for him. If you come up with anything you may think might help, I'll look forward to hearing from you and look forward to see the PITTOCK database when it goes on line, it may help to connect some dots, great stuff. Kim. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pittock-Cowan Family" <[email protected]> To: "Kim Jones" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [Ess] PITTUCK > Kim, > > I have researched the Pittock family in the UK for 30 years. There are > others working across the World. The earleist entry I have is 1234 in > Kent, > England. I have a large paper database which I am all too slowly > converting > to computer which sometime in the next 2 years I'll start to make > available > via a website. > > I guess the details you've given below are in Australia as Wivenhoe and > BRIMER are not familiar to me. > > Regards > > Ian Pittock > GOONS > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Nelson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 6:32 AM > Subject: Fw: [Ess] PITTUCK > > >>I am only the postman >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kim Jones" <[email protected]> >> To: "Rootsweb Essex" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 6:09 AM >> Subject: [Ess] PITTUCK >> >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> It's been a while since I have posted anything but I have been watching >>> the posting all the time. >>> >>> If anyone comes across the surname PITTUCK, PITTICK or PITTOCK before >>> 1800 I would be very interested in hearing from them. My main line come >>> from Wivenhoe but my last record is a John PITTUCK married to Catherine >>> BRIMER (I think that's the name, handwriting not to good) in 1784, then >>> John's second marriage to Mary WILLIAMS in 1785. The marriage records >>> say >>> he was 'of this parish' but there is no recording of any PITTUCK / ICK / >>> OCK before John's first marriage. >>> >>> Happy hunting all, >>> Kim. >>> >>> Kim Jones (nee Pittuck) >>> NSW Australia. >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________ This email has been >> scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3572 - Release Date: 04/13/11 18:34:00

Good Morning: I apologize if this is a repeat, however, I am having a difficult time tracking the birth of John GALLEY, born @ Whitechapel, about 1868. I have tried joining the LONDON-L list and the Middlesex_County_UK-L lists, but am not receiving any responses to my "subscribe" e-mails. John GALLY appears on the 1871 census for Mile End, Old Town with an incorrect age, born @ Mile End, Old Town - parents John and Mary Ann GALLY. He appears on the 1881 census for Tower Hamlets as age 13, born @ Middlesex, Whitechapel - parents James and Mary Ann GULLEY. He appears on the 1891 census for Wanstead Layton as age 22, born @ Commercial Rd., London - living with wife Ellen and 1 son. He appears on the 1911 census for 8 Southwell Grove Road, Leytonstone, Essex as age 43, born @ London, Whitechapel. I am looking for a birth or baptism record for John GALLEY/GALLY born 1867 - 1869 @ Whitechapel with parents John or James and Mary Ann Any assistance would be most appreciated. Dennis Galley, Port Elgin, Ontario, Canada

No i haven't Geo but it is something to look into. Thanks Kim. ----- Original Message ----- From: Geo. To: Kim Jones ; Rootsweb Essex Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [Ess] PITTUCK Have you considered variations of Piddock, Kim? My wife’s gt-gt-grandmother lived in a small hamlet named Piddock’s End near Belchamp Walter. Geo. Hi everyone, It's been a while since I have posted anything but I have been watching the posting all the time. If anyone comes across the surname PITTUCK, PITTICK or PITTOCK before 1800 I would be very interested in hearing from them. My main line come from Wivenhoe but my last record is a John PITTUCK married to Catherine BRIMER (I think that's the name, handwriting not to good) in 1784, then John's second marriage to Mary WILLIAMS in 1785. The marriage records say he was 'of this parish' but there is no recording of any PITTUCK / ICK / OCK before John's first marriage. Happy hunting all, Kim. Kim Jones (nee Pittuck) NSW Australia. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3572 - Release Date: 04/13/11 18:34:00

Hi Alan, I just checked and there was nothing, I'll look into it and see what has to be done. Kim. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Nelson" <[email protected]> To: "Kim Jones" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [Ess] Pittock is a Goons registered surname > Have you checked your unusual names against those entered in the register > of one name studies www.one-name.org > Should your contacts prove to be negative perhaps you could consider > helping those one name studies by providing whatever information you have > in case it allows links to be established with other interested parties > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kim Jones" <[email protected]> > To: "Rootsweb Essex" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 6:09 AM > Subject: [Ess] PITTUCK > > >> Hi everyone, >> >> It's been a while since I have posted anything but I have been watching >> the posting all the time. >> >> If anyone comes across the surname PITTUCK, PITTICK or PITTOCK before >> 1800 I would be very interested in hearing from them. My main line come >> from Wivenhoe but my last record is a John PITTUCK married to Catherine >> BRIMER (I think that's the name, handwriting not to good) in 1784, then >> John's second marriage to Mary WILLIAMS in 1785. The marriage records say >> he was 'of this parish' but there is no recording of any PITTUCK / ICK / >> OCK before John's first marriage. >> >> Happy hunting all, >> Kim. >> >> Kim Jones (nee Pittuck) >> NSW Australia. >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > >

Have you considered variations of Piddock, Kim? My wife’s gt-gt-grandmother lived in a small hamlet named Piddock’s End near Belchamp Walter. Geo. Hi everyone, It's been a while since I have posted anything but I have been watching the posting all the time. If anyone comes across the surname PITTUCK, PITTICK or PITTOCK before 1800 I would be very interested in hearing from them. My main line come from Wivenhoe but my last record is a John PITTUCK married to Catherine BRIMER (I think that's the name, handwriting not to good) in 1784, then John's second marriage to Mary WILLIAMS in 1785. The marriage records say he was 'of this parish' but there is no recording of any PITTUCK / ICK / OCK before John's first marriage. Happy hunting all, Kim. Kim Jones (nee Pittuck) NSW Australia.

Hi everyone, It's been a while since I have posted anything but I have been watching the posting all the time. If anyone comes across the surname PITTUCK, PITTICK or PITTOCK before 1800 I would be very interested in hearing from them. My main line come from Wivenhoe but my last record is a John PITTUCK married to Catherine BRIMER (I think that's the name, handwriting not to good) in 1784, then John's second marriage to Mary WILLIAMS in 1785. The marriage records say he was 'of this parish' but there is no recording of any PITTUCK / ICK / OCK before John's first marriage. Happy hunting all, Kim. Kim Jones (nee Pittuck) NSW Australia.

On 2011/04/14 03:35, thalauafu wrote: > Perhaps someone has access to the parish records for this village who would > kindly do a look up for me. There are some records on the 'Net. This url might be of some use. It's long :-) <http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20050114093509/http://www.essexvillages.net/villages/steeplebumpstead/steeplebumpsteadindex.html> -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Hi Kim, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Jones" <[email protected]> > If anyone comes across the surname PITTUCK, PITTICK or PITTOCK before 1800 I would be very > interested in hearing from them. My main line come from Wivenhoe but my last record is a John > PITTUCK married to Catherine BRIMER (I think that's the name, handwriting not to good) in 1784, > then John's second marriage to Mary WILLIAMS in 1785. The marriage records say he was 'of this > parish' but there is no recording of any PITTUCK / ICK / OCK before John's first marriage. > > Happy hunting all,> Kim.> > Kim Jones (nee Pittuck)> NSW Australia. You might also consider PUTTOCK. which is a name I have come across in modern times. Regards, John Henley

This page has the required information, and a link to download the form (.pdf). https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Photoduplication_Services HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kay DONALD CLARK You can print the order form from one of the drop boxes on the front page of the OLD website. It takes a bit of searching for and I'm sorry but I can't remember exactly where it is.

I wonder if anyone on this list has an interest in this family? My interest is in REBECCA BARROW, born about 1806. Perhaps someone has access to the parish records for this village who would kindly do a look up for me. Cheers, Diana in Tropical Far North Queensland, Australia

In reply to John Chipperfield, I have Claydens from High Easter around the beginnings of the 1800s Wayne McBride