Sorry, forgot to add the date for Arthur's death - 1913 Anne Chambers wrote: > Births Jun 1902 > KNAPP Arthur Lockie O W. Ham 4a 338 > > ?????? > Births Dec 1902 > Knapp Lilian Mabel O Lewisham 1d 1195 (that was fast!!) > > Maureen is an unusual forename for 1906 (it was more common 1920s onwards) and I cannot find a birth > registration for her. > > Ta Daaa... > Ancestry.com. England& Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941 > > KNAPP Arthur of Hillside Nayland near Colchester died 21 April at Melton Asylum near Woodbridge Suffolk > Administration London 16 December to Cecilia Knapp widow. Effects £104 5s > > BINGO!!! > England& Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941> 1915 > KNAPP Louise Cecilia of Salmons Farm Great Bardfield near Braintree Essex widow died 26th November 1915 > Administraion (limited) London 20 December to Elizabeth Bickmore (wife of Herbert Bickmore) Effects £390 4s 3d > > Anne > South Australia > > > > > > > > Jenny wrote: >> "so I think possibly whoever E BICKMORE was, either she was not the mother or you have the wrong Walter >> WEBB" >> >> Thank you Anne,Jo, Donia for your replies...they have all given weight to my conundrum. >> >> In reply to the above suggestion I do know according to oral family history that there was a guardian that >> took charge of Louise 's children and according to family oral history he took the money, sent 14 year old >> Arthur Lockie b 1901 Wanstead off to sea and the girls Lilian b 1902 Forest Hill, London and Maureen b1906 >> Great Hackney were sent to their grandmothers. Now, is E BICKMORE the guardian or E WEBB. I guess I need to >> see a will?? >> >> Is there anyone out there with a magic wand?? >> >> Jenny >> >> >> >> >> so I think possibly whoever E Bickmore was, either she was not the mother or you have the wrong Walter >> Webb. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >> email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Births Jun 1902 KNAPP Arthur Lockie O W. Ham 4a 338 ?????? Births Dec 1902 Knapp Lilian Mabel O Lewisham 1d 1195 (that was fast!!) Maureen is an unusual forename for 1906 (it was more common 1920s onwards) and I cannot find a birth registration for her. Ta Daaa... Ancestry.com. England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941 KNAPP Arthur of Hillside Nayland near Colchester died 21 April at Melton Asylum near Woodbridge Suffolk Administration London 16 December to Cecilia Knapp widow. Effects £104 5s BINGO!!! England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941 > 1915 KNAPP Louise Cecilia of Salmons Farm Great Bardfield near Braintree Essex widow died 26th November 1915 Administraion (limited) London 20 December to Elizabeth Bickmore (wife of Herbert Bickmore) Effects £390 4s 3d Anne South Australia Jenny wrote: > "so I think possibly whoever E BICKMORE was, either she was not the mother or you have the wrong Walter > WEBB" > > Thank you Anne,Jo, Donia for your replies...they have all given weight to my conundrum. > > In reply to the above suggestion I do know according to oral family history that there was a guardian that > took charge of Louise 's children and according to family oral history he took the money, sent 14 year old > Arthur Lockie b 1901 Wanstead off to sea and the girls Lilian b 1902 Forest Hill, London and Maureen b1906 > Great Hackney were sent to their grandmothers. Now, is E BICKMORE the guardian or E WEBB. I guess I need to > see a will?? > > Is there anyone out there with a magic wand?? > > Jenny > > > > > so I think possibly whoever E Bickmore was, either she was not the mother or you have the wrong Walter > Webb. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >

"so I think possibly whoever E BICKMORE was, either she was not the mother or you have the wrong Walter WEBB" Thank you Anne,Jo, Donia for your replies...they have all given weight to my conundrum. In reply to the above suggestion I do know according to oral family history that there was a guardian that took charge of Louise 's children and according to family oral history he took the money, sent 14 year old Arthur Lockie b 1901 Wanstead off to sea and the girls Lilian b 1902 Forest Hill, London and Maureen b1906 Great Hackney were sent to their grandmothers. Now, is E BICKMORE the guardian or E WEBB. I guess I need to see a will?? Is there anyone out there with a magic wand?? Jenny so I think possibly whoever E Bickmore was, either she was not the mother or you have the wrong Walter Webb.

I really think this is more likely your Walter Webb 1901 Class: RG13; Piece: 1648; Folio: 164; Page: 22 91 Ley Street, Ilford, Essex Walter Webb 43 carpenter b London Rotherhithe Elizabeth Webb 35 b do Blackheath Louisa Webb 17 b Deptford Births Mar 1884 Webb Louisa Greenwich 1d 1131 which still doesn't explain E Bickmore Anne South Australia Jenny wrote: > Hello Listers ...can some kind soul help me unravel the informant in a death certificate. The following is taken from the certificate. > > Name:Louisa Cecilia KNAPP. > Death: 26 Nov 1915 Salmons, Great Bardfield RD at the age of 31 yrs. > Occupation: widow of Arthur KNAPP an Art Dealer. > Informant: E Bickmore, mother, 86 Sheringham Avenue, Manor Park > Reg District: Dunmow sub District Thaxted. > > On the marriage certificate dated 15 March 1902, of Louise to Arthur at the Registery Office West Ham, it states that Louise's father is Walter Webb a carpenter. I was given by another researcher that Walter Webb married an Elizabeth WESTBROOK born 1858 Romsey, Hampshire. This could be my stumbling point. > > I thought that Elizabeth WESTBROOK who married Walter WEBB may have married a second time to a BICKMORE however the only E BICKMORE that I can find is a pauper in a work house. As the daughter did not die at the residence of her mother I am wondering if Manor Park was a work house in 1918 and I am also wondering where is Salmons Great Bardfield Rd and what is it? > > Any help in working out who is E BICKMORE would be wonderful. > > Mant thanks > Jenny in Oz > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Listers, Looking for information regarding James and Elizabeth Martin they lived in Darlinghurst Grove Leigh-on-sea. during the 1970's James was a Borough Engineer Chairman Thankyou Elizabeth WA

Marriages Sep 1878 Webb Walter Winchester 2c 187 WESTBROOK Elizabeth Winchester 2c 187 Births Mar 1879 Webb Louisa Winchester 2c 124 1881 census Walter Webb 23 b Winchester Bricklayers labourer Elizabeth Webb 23 b Romsey Louisa C. Webb 2 b Winchester Calais W. Webb 1 George Stone 48 Emma Stone 38 Deaths Mar 1919 Webb Walter C 62 Winchester 2c 232 so it would seem he was still alive when his daughter died. He was still in Winchester with Elizabeth in 1901, living at Middle Brook Street (painters labourer) and there is a Mr Webb living in a household of 3 males and 3 females at Middle Brook Street in the enumerator's books summary in 1911, so I think possibly whoever E Bickmore was, either she was not the mother or you have the wrong Walter Webb. This would be the right age for Elizabeth Webb Deaths Jun 1935 Webb Elizabeth 76 Winchester 2c 131 Anne South Australia Jenny wrote: > Hello Listers ...can some kind soul help me unravel the informant in a death certificate. The following is taken from the certificate. > > Name:Louisa Cecilia KNAPP. > Death: 26 Nov 1915 Salmons, Great Bardfield RD at the age of 31 yrs. > Occupation: widow of Arthur KNAPP an Art Dealer. > Informant: E Bickmore, mother, 86 Sheringham Avenue, Manor Park > Reg District: Dunmow sub District Thaxted. > > On the marriage certificate dated 15 March 1902, of Louise to Arthur at the Registery Office West Ham, it states that Louise's father is Walter Webb a carpenter. I was given by another researcher that Walter Webb married an Elizabeth WESTBROOK born 1858 Romsey, Hampshire. This could be my stumbling point. > > I thought that Elizabeth WESTBROOK who married Walter WEBB may have married a second time to a BICKMORE however the only E BICKMORE that I can find is a pauper in a work house. As the daughter did not die at the residence of her mother I am wondering if Manor Park was a work house in 1918 and I am also wondering where is Salmons Great Bardfield Rd and what is it? > > Any help in working out who is E BICKMORE would be wonderful. > > Mant thanks > Jenny in Oz

Hello Listers ...can some kind soul help me unravel the informant in a death certificate. The following is taken from the certificate. Name:Louisa Cecilia KNAPP. Death: 26 Nov 1915 Salmons, Great Bardfield RD at the age of 31 yrs. Occupation: widow of Arthur KNAPP an Art Dealer. Informant: E Bickmore, mother, 86 Sheringham Avenue, Manor Park Reg District: Dunmow sub District Thaxted. On the marriage certificate dated 15 March 1902, of Louise to Arthur at the Registery Office West Ham, it states that Louise's father is Walter Webb a carpenter. I was given by another researcher that Walter Webb married an Elizabeth WESTBROOK born 1858 Romsey, Hampshire. This could be my stumbling point. I thought that Elizabeth WESTBROOK who married Walter WEBB may have married a second time to a BICKMORE however the only E BICKMORE that I can find is a pauper in a work house. As the daughter did not die at the residence of her mother I am wondering if Manor Park was a work house in 1918 and I am also wondering where is Salmons Great Bardfield Rd and what is it? Any help in working out who is E BICKMORE would be wonderful. Mant thanks Jenny in Oz

Have you tried the local papers or the Essex Archives? Do you mean that James was the Borough Engineer or that he was the Chairman of the Borough Engineering Committee? The two jobs would have been quite different - the first would be a salaried appointment and the second would mean that he was elected to the local council and then appointed Chairman of a Committee. Gerry On 27 May 2011, at 09:06, Elizabeth Elliott wrote: > Hi Listers, > > Looking for information regarding James and Elizabeth Martin they lived > > in Darlinghurst Grove Leigh-on-sea. during the 1970's > > James was a Borough Engineer Chairman > > Thankyou Elizabeth WA > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I am looking for a BRIAN CRACKNELL b 1948 in Woodford or somewhere nearby. His parents were LESLIE & DOROTHY (nee Nash). He also had a sister Christine b 1954 & a brother Colin b 1960. I have researched this family and want to finish off the family tree. Regareds Gill

Hi Jenny There are these 2. Perhaps she was a grandparent. > Deaths Sep 1927 > Bickmore Elizabeth 88 Paddington 1a 42 > > Deaths Jun 1943 > BICKMORE Elizabeth 76 Essex S.W. 4a 133 Cheers Jo

Hi Cornelia Just to illustrate Steve's comments: The earliest forms of Tindall in my ancestry are "De (Of) Tyndale" or Tynedale, reflecting settlement in the valley of the River Tyne, East Lothian, Scotland, by Normans (Scandanavians who had previously conquered Normandy, France) after they subdued England in 1066. All the variants used since can probably be found in modern Essex and cetainly in the U.S. Peter Moll Tortola, British Virgin Islands From: Steve <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Re: [Ess] how do I find out... Hi Cornelia, I don't think that you can, especially not when the USA comes into the equation as during the days of mass immigration people often changed their name, or had it changed for them, for "difficult" eastern European names to similar sounding English ones. Also, given the vagaries of writing and spelling in the past, some Tindalls could have started out as Tynedalls or Tynedale. Also some people will have adopted the name because it is where they came from. Regards Steve On 10/05/2011 22:41, [email protected] wrote: how do I find out whether a surname is one where everyone with that surname is descended from one individual? the name of interest is Tindall, and I think it might be one of those names, but I don't know for certain. does anyone know? or know how to find out? I'm dna testing, and have matched with someone who has Tindalls in America, but my Tindall cousins are in England. if I could be certain that all Tindalls are related, I could help them with connecting to earlier branches of their tree, whether or not that's the branch we connect on. thank you for your help. Cornelia

hi Bruce Do the details you have for her funeral arrangements that you have mention where the funeral was to take place? Which cemetery she was buried in? Colchester Registration District covers a wide area of Essex and she could be buried anywhere within that area, or out of that area. You can be buried anywhere not just in the place where you died. One of my ancestors died in Suffolk but was buried in his home town in County Durham. If you can tell the list whereabouts the funeral was due to take place then we might be able to help more easily with an MI for her. There might not be an MI but she might appear in the Book of Remembrance in the cemetery where she was buried. If she was buried in the Colchester area then the Colchester Cemetery & Crematorium office, which I gave you the webpage of the other day off list, might be able to help with finding her burial place in their area. They have an e.mail address on their Contacts page of the site. Give them the details of Mary's burial in an e.mail and see what they can come up with for you. You need a copy of her death certificate fairly urgently as it will answer a few questions for you. You said in your first message to the list that you thought Arthur died about 1959, what makes you think that? Do you have a document or letter etc., mentioning this? Whereabouts do you think Arthur Henry died? in Wales or in England, perhaps in Essex? There is a death on FreeBMD of an Arthur H. Thomas March Qtr. 1940 aged 55, (so born about 1885), in the Maldon Reg. District of Essex volume 4a page 1862. I could not find a death reg. for the same name in the Essex area around 1959 but then FreeBMD's transcript of the GRO index is not complete and it might be that Arthur's death is yet to be copied to the FreeBMD site. However, Maldon is not so very far from Colchester, nor from Chelmsford, in which Registration District Office the ancient Maldon registers are now kept. Do you know what Arthur Henry's occupation was given as in the censuses? Did he have the type of occupation where he would have had an apprenticeship or was he something like a general labourer or Ag. Lab when his occupation might have changed from one job to the next? If he kept the same type of occupation all his life then that might be something to check the above death entry against. If his occupation that was one which changed at every census then it will be much more difficult to pin his death down to the above entry. What was his occupation given as on any birth certs., you might have for his children? Were all of the children of Arthur Henry & Mary Eleanor Thomas born in Wales or were the last few born in England, perhaps in Essex? I found a birth in June Qtr. 1919 Chelmsford Reg. District volume 4a page 883 for a Jean Thomas where the mother's maiden name was also Thomas. I don't know if this would be of interest but thought I ought to mention it. Regards Jenny DeAngelis <<Could someone tell me if there is an MI for Mary Eleanor THOMAS (Ellen)? She died around 23 Aug 1969 and the funeral was scheduled for 29 Aug 1969. Her death was registered in the Colchester district and shows her DOB as 21 Nov 1885. Her husband was Arthur Henry THOMAS but I haven't been able to find a registration for him. I know he was born about 1884.>>

I can find entries on ancestry.com in the 1851 & 1861 census for a miller named Charles Mortlock but the year of birth doesn't match. Here are the details as they appear on ancestry- 1851 Charles Mortlock Age: 27 (year of birth c1824) Born: Bobbingworth, Essex, England Spouse: Rachel Occupation: Miller Living in the parish of Harlow, Essex - District 6a, Piece 1770, Folio 464, Page No. 41 1861 Charles Martluck Age: 39 (year of birth c1822) Born: Bobbingworth, Essex, England Spouse: Rachdl Occupation: Miller Living in the parish of Harlow, Essex - District 1, Piece 1065, Folio 18, Page No. 30 For what it is worth, there is a tree on ancestry.com that has Charles Mortlock as the father of James Franklin and it has Bobbingworth, Essex as Charles' place of birth. Regards Karen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Chambers Sent: Sunday, 15 May 2011 7:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Ess] Charles Mortlock I am looking for a Charles Mortlock born 1816 in Essex. I have found him in the 1841 census at Orsett, where he is a Journeyman Miller. He is the father of James Franklin born in 1842 at Orsett, his mother is Susan Franklin who was a servant at Orsett Mill where Charles was working. He is named on Jame's birth certificate as the father although he never married Susan. I can find nothing about Charles, although there is a family of Millers called Mortlock in Suffolk and Wivenhoe but I can't find a link. Can any one help please, Regards, David ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear List, Could someone tell me if there is an MI for Mary Eleanor THOMAS (Ellen)? She died around 23 Aug 1969 and the funeral was scheduled for 29 Aug 1969. Her death was registered in the Colchester district and shows her DOB as 21 Nov 1885. Her husband was Arthur Henry THOMAS but I haven't been able to find a registration for him. I know he was born about 1884. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Bruce Heath, Ohio

I am looking for a Charles Mortlock born 1816 in Essex. I have found him in the 1841 census at Orsett, where he is a Journeyman Miller. He is the father of James Franklin born in 1842 at Orsett, his mother is Susan Franklin who was a servant at Orsett Mill where Charles was working. He is named on Jame's birth certificate as the father although he never married Susan. I can find nothing about Charles, although there is a family of Millers called Mortlock in Suffolk and Wivenhoe but I can't find a link. Can any one help please, Regards, David

HI Bruce, Do you know Mary Thomas' maiden name, perhaps that is given on her death certificate. If you do know the maiden name then you might be able to look for children's births in the GRO index of births looking for the birth of Thomas children with that mothers maiden name shown in the entry. That might be a starting point for finding children of the couple. Where in the Colchester Registration District did Mary die, what town is given in the address at which she died? Who registered the death, the informant, and what relationship, if any, is given for that person to Mary? Or does it just say Present at Death? I found a marriage on the FreeBMD site that might be a possible for your couple if you don't already have their marriage. Reference- Marriages June Qtr. 1912 Newport M(onmouthshire), registration district volume 11a page 385 Mary E. Thomas & Arthur H. Thomas appear on the same reference. Maybe this is what you meant in your Message that the name Mary Eleanor Thomas is her complete maiden name. Looking on the Genuki site pages for Wales I could not find Pontywaun listed under the Towns and parishes in Wales listing but I then searched the Genuk Gazeteer for Pontywaun and found that it is very close to Newport Monmouthshire. If this the marriage of your couple then finding their Thomas children in the GRO index with a mother's maiden name of Thomas too will not be easy but you might be able to refine your search of the index by selecting Newport as the registration district and then getting entries checked for the parents first names. Do you subscribe to the Welsh mailing list? You might find that helpful. Go to the Genuki site at www.genuki.org.uk and the pages for Wales and then Monmouthshire where you might find more useful information. Regards Jenny DeAngelis <<I am looking for information about Mary Eleanor THOMAS wife of Arthur Henry Thomas. Mary died 23/24 Aug 1969 and was buried 25 Aug 1969. Her death is registered in Colchester, Essex. Mary was born 21 Nov 1885 in Pontywuan, Monmouthshire. I think Arthur Henry died about 1959. Were obituaries normal for that time? I am trying to identify her descendants. Thanks Bruce Barrett Heath, Ohio

Talking as a local... we have the daily Evening Gazette (already mentioned) and the weekly Essex County Standard, produced by the same company. The Standard (I don't take the Gazette) normally has two or three pages of paid-for death notices placed by the family/friends, plus anywhere between a couple and half a dozen obituaries written by editorial staff. I've never quite worked out what criteria are used to determine whether or not someone is "deserving" of an editorial obituary... you often see them for doctors and teachers but also for shopkeepers and pub owners. Bruce - if you do the groundwork (i.e., contact the Standard/Gazette to find out if they keep archives, and if these are accessible to the public) then - providing they are kept in the immediate Colchester area (Chelmsford would be too far) I'll be quite happy to go and have a look for you. Angelika Manningtree, Essex On 12/05/11 18:25, Bruce P Barrett wrote: > Dear List, > > I am looking for information about Mary Eleanor THOMAS wife of Arthur Henry > Thomas. Mary died 23/24 Aug 1969 and was buried 25 Aug 1969. Her death > is registered in Colchester, Essex. Mary was born 21 Nov 1885 in > Pontywuan, Monmouthshire. I think Arthur Henry died about 1959. Were > obituaries normal for that time? > > I am trying to identify her descendants. > > Thanks > > Bruce Barrett > > Heath, Ohio > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Bruce Obituaries in the national press in the UK are pretty much reserved for the rich and/or famous. Even in local papers, only someone who was prominent in the local community or who had some other claim to fame would normally merit an obituary as such. Death notices, which sometimes give a little biographical detail ("much loved father of Fred and Freda and grandfather of Sharon and Tracy" etc) would be a more likely find, nationally (in The Times or Daily Telegraph) for a well to do family or locally for "ordinary" folk. Mary's will, or Arthur's (or both) might be a better way of finding out who they left behind. Best wishes Caroline Sent from my iPad On 12 May 2011, at 18:25, "Bruce P Barrett" <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear List, > > I am looking for information about Mary Eleanor THOMAS wife of Arthur Henry > Thomas. Mary died 23/24 Aug 1969 and was buried 25 Aug 1969. Her death > is registered in Colchester, Essex. Mary was born 21 Nov 1885 in > Pontywuan, Monmouthshire. I think Arthur Henry died about 1959. Were > obituaries normal for that time? > > I am trying to identify her descendants. > > Thanks > > Bruce Barrett > > Heath, Ohio > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't think that obituaries, as they have in the USA and I presume Canada are at all common unless someone is a well known person, within the bounds of the local paper, so I wouldn't get one from my local paper, though my wife or son may choose to pay to put a notice in. Sometimes notices mention the family, but often not in a way that is of use in tracking them. But, often local papers will publish letters from people trying to trace relatives. I think that the only local in Colchester is the Gazzette http://www.gazette-news.co.uk/ Cheers Steve On 12/05/2011 18:25, Bruce P Barrett wrote: > Dear List, > > I am looking for information about Mary Eleanor THOMAS wife of Arthur Henry > Thomas. Mary died 23/24 Aug 1969 and was buried 25 Aug 1969. Her death > is registered in Colchester, Essex. Mary was born 21 Nov 1885 in > Pontywuan, Monmouthshire. I think Arthur Henry died about 1959. Were > obituaries normal for that time? > > I am trying to identify her descendants. > > Thanks > > Bruce Barrett > > Heath, Ohio > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear List, I am looking for information about Mary Eleanor THOMAS wife of Arthur Henry Thomas. Mary died 23/24 Aug 1969 and was buried 25 Aug 1969. Her death is registered in Colchester, Essex. Mary was born 21 Nov 1885 in Pontywuan, Monmouthshire. I think Arthur Henry died about 1959. Were obituaries normal for that time? I am trying to identify her descendants. Thanks Bruce Barrett Heath, Ohio