Hi all, Is there anyone who could do a 1911 Census look-up for me please? I am after information about JAMES DUFFY and his daughter MARY ELIZABETH DUFFY. I'm not even sure if they were living in Essex at the time of the Census, but Mary was married there in 1920 in West Ham. Her father James at that time was listed as deceased. I would appreciate any help. Thankyou Olive

Rotuli Normanniae in Turri Londinensi p.N31 records 1200/1201:   "Robert de Tilley gives to the lord the king $100 Anjou for having the daughter of Peter de Rivers for his wife with her heritage ------------------------"   Anyone acquainted with the Tilleys of that period?   National Archives records the following 1216/1223:   William Tilley mayor of Northampton is requested to explain and presumably resolve the death of a number of poor beggars at the hospital of St John Northampton - Faulkes de Breaute to Hubert de Burgh justiciar present.   Rivers are connected to the Clares located in Suffolk, Hertfordshire, and Essex.Perhaps Peter descended from that line?  I have no record of this Peter de Rivers to date. Possibly he is a brother to Richard de Rivers who married Joan de Port 1200/1201.   Thank you   Paul Bulkley   Thank you   Paul Bulkley

I've read that there have been at least two suicides in bygone times at White Farm, Tolleshunt D'Arcy. One farmer was said to have hung himself at the farm house another was said to have drowned himself in a horse trough on the farm. A fellow researcher came up with the following in respect of this: The PAGE family were long term tenants of the charitable trust which owned White House Farm, Tolleshunt D'Arcy. Essex County Standard Nov 17, 1950 Heart failed in drowning bid. Extracts: Retired farmer Frank Page attempted to drown himself but died as he clambered onto the rim of a water tank near his home. Miss Minnie Page, his sister said Mr Page had a nervous breakdown in June 1950. He said he would drown himself on occasions when he was in a low nervous state. She went to his room at 3 am to find his bed was empty and cold. A search was organised and they found his body lying on the surface of a 3 ft deep water tank. 2 tractor wheels were found resting against the tank. The pathologist said there were signs of chronic heart disease, but no signs of drowning. He was of the opinion that death was caused by heart failure through contact with the cold water. Page was dead before he hit the surface. Mr Page was under the care of Dr James Madden of Tollesbury Percy Smith was the farm foreman Coroner was Dr J P Macdonald Local pc was PC Dunscombe from Tollesbury Pathologist was Dr Alfred E N Prentice Frank was the brother of former Witham auctioneer Mr Hugh Page. Inquest held Monday 13 Nov 1950 at Witham Verdict: Natural causes .......... Tenants of White House Farm: Benjamin PAGE > Frank PAGE (Benjamin's son) > Leslie SPEAKMAN (Frank's distant cousin) > Ralph BAMBER (Leslie's son in law) Frank Page, born 9 April 1873 and baptised 11 May 1873 was the son of Benjamin & Elizabeth Ann Page (nee SEABROOK). Benjamin's parents are believed to have been Joseph & Elizabeth Page. Leslie Speakman's uncle, Joseph John Speakman, was married to Anna Elizabeth nee Page, Frank's 1st cousin. Burial of Frank Page took place at Tolleshunt D'Arcy church 15 Nov 1950 My questions: It has been suggested that Benjamin PAGE was the farmer who hung himself at White House Farm. Would anyone have any information about this? Also, would anyone know why the tenancy of a farm owned by a charitable trust would be passed down through members of the same family in the way this farm was? Colleen

Is anyone researching Bamber family, June and Ralph "Nevill" BAMBER, who were tragically murdered along with their family at White House Farm, Tolleshunt D'Arcy? It was initially believed that their paranoid schizophrenic daughter, Sheila, had killed the family and committed suicide, however their son Jeremy was later convicted of the murders, though he has protested his innocence from prison for almost 26 years. Anyone researching this family may be interested in my next post regarding a series of tragedies suffered by tenants of White House Farm who were related to the Bambers. I'm copying this to Fred who may be interested in this case. Colleen

Dear Fred and List, Sorry I do not know anything about Happy Harry BUT... The Essex Family Historian that Fred edits is the journal of the Essex Society for Family History. I know some of the list memebers also belong to this society, but I hope it's OK (and not against list rules!) to make sure everyone else knows it exists. Every quarter Fred puts a very useful and interesting journal together and I have used it to find out lots about the area where my ancestors came from. I've also learned about how other people go about their research. If anyone wants to know more about joining, I'd be happy to pass on the details. Best wishes, Edwina Higgins P.S. The ESFH is a charity so this is not a commercial plug! > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 09:42:59 +0100 > From: "Fred"<[email protected]> > Subject: [Ess] Happy Harry - Southend > To:<[email protected]> > Message-ID:<[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > > > I edit a family history magazine, the Essex Family Historian and I am trying > to research, for an article, > > the life of the Reverend George Wood (Happy Harry) who died in 1974 at the > age of 86. > > Happy Harry preached on Southend Seafront for some 53 years. There is a > plaque on City Beach, > > opposite the Falcon Hotel. Ken Crowe of the Southend museum has found me a > photograph. > > > > Family History enquiries have stalled because of the numbers of George Wood > born in South > > London in 1888. He may have died in a nursing home in South London or had a > property in > > Leigh. Other than that, a complete man of mystery. Does anyone know more > please? > > > > Fred > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:09:19 +0100 > From: Adrian Gray<[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Ess] Burial of Louise Knapp 1915 > To: "[email protected]"<[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Jenny, > > At that time in that part of Essex, which is very rural, there were relatively few cemeteries as we would understand them, except in market towns such as Saffron Walden, and most burials were still in parish churchyards. These have little connection with the registration districts, which were a civil entity. > > I don't have my map of Essex parishes to hand, but I would start with the obvious one, the parish church at Great Bardfield. Hawkspur Green is a hamlet of a few houses, and the nearest graveyard to there would be Little Sampford. However, the register is very badly water damaged (stolen in the 1960s and found in a ditch months later), and many parts are illegible. Little Bardfield is also a possibility. > > Just to throw down a bosie, it is possible especially if she was a young wife, that she may have been buried in the parish she was born in - I know of a prosperous farmer's wife who died in about 1886 aged 35 and was buried many miles away where she was born. > > Those are the first four places I would look. If you find a burial, I would also try to find out if there is a gravestone. If she was a member of a farmer's family (I'm guessing here from the place of death), farming had suddenly just become very profitable for the first time in a generation because cheap grain from the US and Canada was suddenly very expensive because of U-boats targetting the ships bringing it across the Atlantic, so there was money for ostentatious funerals and monuments. > > Hope that helps, > > Adrian > > > Hello Listers > > I am wondering if there is someone out there that can help me shortcut my search for the burial of Louise Cecilia KNAPP who died 26 Nov 1915 at Salmons (Farm) Great Bardfield. I have found Salmon on a map and it is near Hawkspur Green; the death certificate records the district as Dunmow and sub district Thaxted. > > Should I be looking for cemeteries with those names or have boundries now changed and the cemetery that she will be in has changed name. > > I also would like to thank all those who have helped me a few weeks ago. This is what I love about family historians. > > Jenny in Oz > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 06:08:22 -0700 (PDT) > From: Helen Carter<[email protected]> > Subject: [Ess] HARRIDGE at Rayleigh > To: [email protected] > Message-ID:<[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Is there anyone who can visit Holy Trinity Church, Rayleigh and take a photo for me please > ? > Thomas HARRIDGE d.1827 and was buried there, it is said there is a plaque on the floor of the church to him and his wife Susanna. ? over a burial vault > ? > Or any HARRIDGE graves or plaques?in the church please > ? > Thankyou > Helen > West Australia? > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ESSEX-UK list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the ESSEX-UK mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ESSEX-UK Digest, Vol 6, Issue 128 > ****************************************

Hi Jenny, At that time in that part of Essex, which is very rural, there were relatively few cemeteries as we would understand them, except in market towns such as Saffron Walden, and most burials were still in parish churchyards. These have little connection with the registration districts, which were a civil entity. I don't have my map of Essex parishes to hand, but I would start with the obvious one, the parish church at Great Bardfield. Hawkspur Green is a hamlet of a few houses, and the nearest graveyard to there would be Little Sampford. However, the register is very badly water damaged (stolen in the 1960s and found in a ditch months later), and many parts are illegible. Little Bardfield is also a possibility. Just to throw down a bosie, it is possible especially if she was a young wife, that she may have been buried in the parish she was born in - I know of a prosperous farmer's wife who died in about 1886 aged 35 and was buried many miles away where she was born. Those are the first four places I would look. If you find a burial, I would also try to find out if there is a gravestone. If she was a member of a farmer's family (I'm guessing here from the place of death), farming had suddenly just become very profitable for the first time in a generation because cheap grain from the US and Canada was suddenly very expensive because of U-boats targetting the ships bringing it across the Atlantic, so there was money for ostentatious funerals and monuments. Hope that helps, Adrian Hello Listers I am wondering if there is someone out there that can help me shortcut my search for the burial of Louise Cecilia KNAPP who died 26 Nov 1915 at Salmons (Farm) Great Bardfield. I have found Salmon on a map and it is near Hawkspur Green; the death certificate records the district as Dunmow and sub district Thaxted. Should I be looking for cemeteries with those names or have boundries now changed and the cemetery that she will be in has changed name. I also would like to thank all those who have helped me a few weeks ago. This is what I love about family historians. Jenny in Oz

I edit a family history magazine, the Essex Family Historian and I am trying to research, for an article, the life of the Reverend George Wood (Happy Harry) who died in 1974 at the age of 86. Happy Harry preached on Southend Seafront for some 53 years. There is a plaque on City Beach, opposite the Falcon Hotel. Ken Crowe of the Southend museum has found me a photograph. Family History enquiries have stalled because of the numbers of George Wood born in South London in 1888. He may have died in a nursing home in South London or had a property in Leigh. Other than that, a complete man of mystery. Does anyone know more please? Fred

Hello Listers I am wondering if there is someone out there that can help me shortcut my search for the burial of Louise Cecilia KNAPP who died 26 Nov 1915 at Salmons (Farm) Great Bardfield. I have found Salmon on a map and it is near Hawkspur Green; the death certificate records the district as Dunmow and sub district Thaxted. Should I be looking for cemeteries with those names or have boundries now changed and the cemetery that she will be in has changed name. I also would like to thank all those who have helped me a few weeks ago. This is what I love about family historians. Jenny in Oz

Is there anyone who can visit Holy Trinity Church, Rayleigh and take a photo for me please   Thomas HARRIDGE d.1827 and was buried there, it is said there is a plaque on the floor of the church to him and his wife Susanna. ? over a burial vault   Or any HARRIDGE graves or plaques in the church please   Thankyou Helen West Australia 

On 2011/06/08 14:55, Charani wrote: > All I have at the moment is Rowland ROGERS married Elizabeth WORTERS > at Theydon Mount on 23 May 1763. Their dau, Elizabeth, was baptised > 22 Feb 1764. I've not been able to find any other events for this > family in Theydon Mount on the IGI/FamilySearch is a bust because I > can't refine it enough and ROGERS is a common surname. There's > nothing on FreeeREG. Try SEAX. They have digital images through to about 1755. <http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/displayParishContents.asp?selAlphabet=T&selParish=13742&selChurch=13764> -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Mike Fry wrote: > Try SEAX. They have digital images through to about 1755. > > <http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/displayParishContents.asp?selAlphabet=T&selParish=13742&selChurch=13764> Many thanks :)) -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

I'm looking for a ROGERS family who were in Theydon Mount between about 1730 and 1770 All I have at the moment is Rowland ROGERS married Elizabeth WORTERS at Theydon Mount on 23 May 1763. Their dau, Elizabeth, was baptised 22 Feb 1764. I've not been able to find any other events for this family in Theydon Mount on the IGI/FamilySearch is a bust because I can't refine it enough and ROGERS is a common surname. There's nothing on FreeeREG. Elizabeth went on to marry Walter HORTON in Carmarthen and, on his death, William ROGERS who was born in Hoddesdon but had moved to Carmarthen around 1825-ish. I'm looking for Rowland's baptism and any siblingsfor him and his dau Elizabeth. I'm not too worried about Elizabeth WORTERS' family at this stage. Are there any online resources available? I'm not able to get to Essex to check the PRs. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Richard Fitz Gilbert lord of Clare and Tonbridge 1000-1136 slain by the Welsh held considerable property in Kent, Essx, Suffolk, and Hertfordhsire mainly within 50 miles of Colchester, and centred around cost Colchester, Stevenage, St Edmunds, Ipswich, Sudbury and Stowmarket.   Baldwin Redvers 1st Earl Devon's second marriage was to Lucy daughter of Richard Fitz Gilbert. She is recorded to have granted gifts to Clare by Stow after the death of Baldwin.   Anyone possess information where Lucy lived after the death of Baldwin. Also details of her children.   Thankyou   Paul Bulkley

At the weekend I came across rather a startling relic of the above gentleman in Wethersfield churchyard. I know from the archives that there is someone in NZ researching this family, who I have dropped an email to, and there's a certain amount available online eg at History House. Plus, if the jobs market continues as it is at the mo, I may have more time to research very soon... However, if anyone else is researching them, and Thomas in particular, I'd be very interested in hearing from you. Adrian

I was interested in your question about above person, as I am stuck on Mary Ann Lindzell born in Stifford and who I think married Samual Dye in Aveley, Essex on 27 Oct 1813. I have been unable to find any family. There was Thomas Lindzell Dye (a son) who lived in Cambridgeshire and emigrated to Australia. I did find a Thomas Lindzell on SEAX Parish records for Stifford, but could not relate to any of my family. You do not happen to have any leads? ==John ffitch

I am trying to find more information about my 5 x Great Grandfather, Thomas Lindsell (or variants) who I believe established a Coach, Cart and Wheelwright business in 1740 located in East Street, Prittlewell, Essex where the present Railway Hotel now stands. The firms advert of the 18th century also reads 'agent for the leading manufactures of agricultural implements and basket carriages'. The business was subsequently run by my 4 x GG, 3 x GG and 3 x G Uncle until the premises and private house were destroyed by fire in November 1872. In the extract from the Parish Register Transcript of St Mary's, Prittlewell there is a baptism for John Lyndsey in 1769 and a Mary Linsey in 1772 both have parents listed as Thomas and Ann. Could these be the parents of my 4 x GG, Thomas born C1758? No other details about Thomas or Ann Lindsell have come to light. Can anyone please help with information on Thomas and Ann Lindsell (or variants) or the business itself? David Lindsell

Thanks to all who replied, we will have to leave Charles Mortlock for now until we come up with a definite link Regards David

Ingrid Thank you that is very helpful; I knew about Gt Baddow but St Erconwald is new to me Philip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ingrid billings" <[email protected]> To: "'Philip Maddocks'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 1:20 AM Subject: RE: [Ess] Interested in MADDOCKS Navestock > Hi Philip. > > Was doing some work in Great Baddow parish records D/P 65/1/3 - St Marys > (which is online). There were a few Muddox/Maddox in there. > James Muddox Chr 24 Jan 1747 "the baseborn son/child of Mary Muddox and > James Lilly the reputed father". > > I know that the name of Muddox/Maddox is mentioned in St Erconwalds parish > records which is in Ingatestone. Only a stone throw from Navestock. > > Though I would let you know that this could be a place to look at. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Philip Maddocks > Sent: 28 May 2011 08:55 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Ess] Interested in MADDOCKS Navestock > > I have been on this list some time ago looking for mother's ancestors with > some success. > > I have been recently told of a Thomas MADDOCKS marrying in Navestock > parish > in 1764 and he is my new target. I almost match this person's decendant > on > my DNA test. > > Any help would be gratefully received > > Philip Maddocks > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

To anyone in and around Wivenhoe. I am putting together my family history about Wivenhoe and the PITTUCK family. If anyone has a photo of the houses in the Folly (pinched one of the net at the moment) and wouldn't mind sharing I would love to see it. Also any early information of the area, I'm starting in the mid 1700's. Doing a bit of research on the smugglers of that time too as John PITTUCK was one of them living in Wivenhoe. Thanks in advance, Kim.

In a message dated 30/05/2011 21:07:49 GMT Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: what happens when a single mother registers a birth has changed over the years. Prior to the Birth and Death Act 1874 the mother could name anyone as the father wihout him being present or agreeing Dick is correct, I should have said that in the case of illegitimacy, the father was supposed to be present from 1874. Both before and after that date it was not unusual for a fictitious father to be named to conceal illegitimacy, sometimes the mother would name her own father, brother or uncle as the child's father, so the surname would appear the same as her own. Even after 1874, it was still possible for a woman to name the father in his absence if they were living as a married couple, you did not have to show any proof that you were married. No certificate should be taken at face value, the information is only as reliable as was given at the time. I have come across numerous cases, both in my own and friends family trees, where the information has been, shall I say, massaged to conceal parentage, ages, present and previous marital status, even as recently as the 1950's. I have two certificates dated 1912 and 1915, where the mother was the informant, where, to all intents and purposes the parents appear to be married, all the information is correct, including the mother's maiden name, with one vital difference, the family surname was changed to a vaguely similar sounding name starting with the same initial. This was done to conceal both the children's illegitimacy and the fact that the couple, although living together, were both still married to other people at the time. Regards, Jennifer