It certainly appears that more records are to be digitalised which will be good. The Newsletter said that the charges which will help mitigate ERO savings in the new financial climate. Firstly there is no indication of the prices- presumably if they are to be sufficient to mitigate ERO savings the charges will be more than tokens Secondly -At first glance it appears that from August there will be a charge to view the digital images of wills and parish registers that we currently enjoy free of charge. BUT It could mean that the records are being transcribed and so the transcribed records will be available on subscription and we will continue free access to the current digitalised BMD. It will be really sad to lose free access to these records. Will it also include the other digital items such as photos. Can anyone clarify what will be charged for and what will be free as there is nothing on the website yet. Other interesting things in the newsletter are that the Friends of Historic Essex have funded the purchase from the National Archives of a DVD of the pre-1937 Nonconformist records and registers for Essex. This DVD replaces the worn and damaged microfilms recently removed from the searchroom drawers. Please ask staff for access to the DVD and DVD drive. Jenny Butler, Principal Archivist, retired from Essex Record Office on 29 June, after 37 years service The Essex Sound and Video Archive has just received its 600^th accession * * >

Just received the below in the Essex RO monthly E-bulletin, which may be of interest: Pay-to-Browse Launch Essex Record Office will be launching Essex Ancestors on 30 August. This new service will offer unlimited pay-to-browse access to Essex parish registers and many wills, giving customers fuller and wider access to our holdings from the comfort of their homes. Parish register coverage will extend from at least 1538 to 1837 with the period 1837 to the present partly included at go-live date or planned imminently. Marriages within the last 50 years will be excluded, in compliance with government guidelines, however. Parish register and will images will become available for 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, 6 months or 1 year according to the user's need or preference, but we are pleased to say that access to the images will be free in the ERO Searchroom. We look forward to your future comments (e mail: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]) and hope that this new departure will help mitigate our savings in the new financial climate.

Very exciting, Mike, thank you. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Mick Loxdale <[email protected]> wrote: > Just received the below in the Essex RO monthly E-bulletin, which may be of > interest: > > > > Pay-to-Browse Launch > > Essex Record Office will be launching Essex Ancestors on 30 August. This > new > service will offer unlimited pay-to-browse access to Essex parish registers > and many wills, giving customers fuller and wider access to our holdings > from the comfort of their homes. Parish register coverage will extend from > at least 1538 to 1837 with the period 1837 to the present partly included > at > go-live date or planned imminently. Marriages within the last 50 years will > be excluded, in compliance with government guidelines, however. > > > > Parish register and will images will become available for 1 day, 1 week, 1 > month, 6 months or 1 year according to the user's need or preference, but > we > are pleased to say that access to the images will be free in the ERO > Searchroom. > > > > We look forward to your future comments (e mail: > <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]) and hope that > this new departure will help mitigate our savings in the new financial > climate. > > >

Jennifer If it isn't digitised, you need to visit Chelmsford (!) or contact the Record Office and ask them if there is an alternative (such as buying a scan, film, or disc). Or, hope that the Essex Society for Family History, the National Archives, or some other kind people, have digitised or transcribed it. In short, SEAX is a catalogue of what is in the archives at Chelmsford. Selective online images (which are growing slowly) are a bonus. I don't know much about school records, but Maldon schools would seem more likely for Southminster than Kelvedon, Maldon being the nearest large town to Southminster.. Dudley -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jennifer" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 4:41 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [Ess] SEAX - Thank you! and Kelvedon School > Hi Everyone, > > Many thanks for your kind advice about SEAX. I can now see what is > digitized. Unfortunately, I am no further ahead than I was before... > such is the nature of the hunt I suppose. How does one access the > other information? The "not digitized", in other words. > > What I am looking for is some information on the Kelvedon School. > Would a mariner's son from Southminster have ended up there? What > sort of education would he have received? > > Thanks again, > > Jennifer > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jennifer, When you search, you can choose to search Everything or Images. Images brings up only digitised documents. You can then see them, if you have the right software. If you search for Everything, some hits come up with a symbol next to the date, on the right, and the symbol (which looks like pictures in frames) means it has been scanned, and you can see the images. Everything else is just an entry in the catalogue. The results are the same wherever in the world you are, as far as I know. Best wishes Dudley -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jennifer" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:34 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: [Ess] How does SEAX work? > Hello List, > > Can someone explain to me how SEAX works? I seem to be able to enter > searches and see it's holdings, but I cannot figure out how to access > them. Is it just a record of holdings or are these items digitized? > Does it track items for UK customers to bring into their local > libraries or something? I am in Canada, how can I access this > information? Sorry for the newbie question... > > Many thanks, > > Jennifer > > Researching in Essex: RICHARDSON, DRAIN, CLARKE, TOMLIN, etc... > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 07:34:01 -0700 Jennifer <[email protected]> wrote: Hello Jennifer, > them. Is it just a record of holdings or are these items digitized? Some are, some aren't. Any search will give a list of results (obviously). If there's just a description, such as; 12 D/DU 2318/10 Photograph of Leslie RATCLIFF Speakman 1914-1918 Then there is nothing online, except a (slightly) more detailed listing of the holding. If there's am icon that looks like a picture frame, then there's also digitised images. For eaxmple; 2 T/Z 562/1 Digital copies of photograph album of Speakman family of Danbury, c.1870 - early 20th century [Item contains images.] 1870-1940 Note the part [Item contains images.]. That is where the icon is located. Click that icon, and you'll go to a page with description and a drop-down list of the images available. They could number quite a few. Hope this helps. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" We don't give a damn One Chord Wonders - The Adverts

Hi Everyone, Many thanks for your kind advice about SEAX. I can now see what is digitized. Unfortunately, I am no further ahead than I was before... such is the nature of the hunt I suppose. How does one access the other information? The "not digitized", in other words. What I am looking for is some information on the Kelvedon School. Would a mariner's son from Southminster have ended up there? What sort of education would he have received? Thanks again, Jennifer

Hello List, Can someone explain to me how SEAX works? I seem to be able to enter searches and see it's holdings, but I cannot figure out how to access them. Is it just a record of holdings or are these items digitized? Does it track items for UK customers to bring into their local libraries or something? I am in Canada, how can I access this information? Sorry for the newbie question... Many thanks, Jennifer Researching in Essex: RICHARDSON, DRAIN, CLARKE, TOMLIN, etc...

Hi Cornelia, Have a look at the LDS library catalogue. I just made a place search for Essex England and then looked down the list of subjects available for Probate Records, there are also other Probate headings such as indexes. The link to Probate Records shows that they have films of Probates going back to the 15th Century in some cases. Going back to the list of results of my search and selecting Probate Indexes I found that there is a link to Wills at Chelmsford, (Essex & East Hertfordshire). It says that this section "Includes Indexes" V. 78 Index to Wills proved in the Archdeaconry Court of Essex 1400-1619. Archdeaconry Court of Colchester 1500-1619, and so on. It then goes on to say:- "For original register copy wills and original wills for the Essex and Hertfordshire division of the Commissary Court of London, see Church of England Diocese of London. Essex and Hertfordshire division. Commissary Court. Probate Records 1431-1858 in the Author/Title catalogue. Further down the page it gives details of the format of these indexes and the last part of this is References where there is a link, (Indexes) Probate Records 1618-1851. Clicking there will take you to a page listing the film numbers necessary for these records. Repeat the search that I made, as I noted above and you should see the same items listed. You could then try the same search for Suffolk part of England to see what that brings up. Hope this helps. Regards Jenny DeAngelis <<in my case, I can fairly well expect to find wills for nearly every direct line ancestor and I've found my outlaying relatives filed wills and probates at least 20% of the time. it could be much higher as I have a largish tree and I haven't verified wills or probates one way or the other for all of the people. my early 1600's Suffolk ancestors (who eventually removed to Colchester) were grocers, gentlemen, freeholders and Quakers. I have found, so far, the wills or probates of my 3x great grandfather, my 4x great grandfather, and my 7x great grandfather, all Cross's,>>

It works fine for me - try emptying your browser cache and then try again. If you don't know how to do that and if you are using Internet Explorer here's how to do it http://www.wcnet.org/support/wc/iecache.php If you are using a different browser, Google for "empty cache " and your browser name. Anne South Australia [email protected] wrote: > > I still can't, though other websites work fine for me. can't figure > it. > On Sun 06/26/11 5:26 PM , "Margaret Taylor" [email protected] sent: > I didn't have any trouble accessing SEAX just now. > Margaret > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 8:02 PM > Subject: [Ess] how long has SEAX been down? > > > > and when will it be back online? > > I have Mary's christening records and Hezekiah's marriage to > > Elizabeth Ladbroke, but do not have Hezekiah and Ann's marriage > and > > there should be children in between Hezekiah chr. 1791 and Mary b. > > 1803. > > > > Cornelia > > in Oregon, U.S.A. >

thank you, Carol, I had hopes that someone may have compiled a collection, perhaps in several books keeping 1/4 of the nation in each one or, if that were too much, one for each county/shire, it would make searching for the wills and probates so much easier. and what about the small window between the two? what of the wills filed in 1859 and 1860? in my case, I can fairly well expect to find wills for nearly every direct line ancestor and I've found my outlaying relatives filed wills and probates at least 20% of the time. it could be much higher as I have a largish tree and I haven't verified wills or probates one way or the other for all of the people. my early 1600's Suffolk ancestors (who eventually removed to Colchester) were grocers, gentlemen, freeholders and Quakers. I have found, so far, the wills or probates of my 3x great grandfather, my 4x great grandfather, and my 7x great grandfather, all Cross's, but am still on the hunt for my 4x, 5x and 8x great grandfather Cross's and all of my other great grandfathers-and the occasional great grandmothers, they are less likely to have wills, though. I find it perplexing since they often outlived their husbands and were left with dowers or pensions. yesterday I found 6 wills for some people I have middle names for-the William's, John's, Elizabeth's, Ann's and Mary's will of course be difficult to sort out if I don't know either when they died or where. but I am confident that more wills are out there, I just either have to find the data on the individual, or find which ecclesiastical court they were filed in (or both). it's much easier if they were filed in the PCC, the records in the smaller courts are still being elusive...but someone indexing all the courts for prior to 1850 would make up for the decades that I've been searching for my family. Cornelia On Sun 06/26/11 11:14 PM , "Caroline Bradford" [email protected] sent: Hi Cornelia Prior to 1858, the proving of wills was a matter for ecclesiastical (church) courts, of which there were a great many. After that date, the state took over and the system became a national, rather than a local one. The ERO leaflet at http://tinyurl.com/3tt7w9k [1] may be helpful to you. Don't forget, though, that the likelihood of your ancestors having made wills decreases as you go back in time. Best wishes Caroline > > > Ancestry has a probate calender for 1861-1941 and I've spent some > time playing in it today and finding many wills and probates that I > failed to find either at SEAX during previous visits or A2A during > previous and current visits. a lovely tool, though I haven't > succeeded in finding all of my cousins so am not sure I've found all > of the wills and probates. > > my question, do earlier calenders exist, and if so, are any > online > and where do I find them. I need them into the 1500's. > > thank you, > > Cornelia > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK- > [email protected] [2] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK- > [email protected] [3] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message Links: ------ [1] http://tinyurl.com/3tt7w9k [2] mailto:[email protected] [3] mailto:[email protected]

[email protected] wrote: > it's > just SEAX that's the problem. Sometimes an old cookie will cause a problem so clearing cookies, temp internet files and temp files will usually do the trick. The problem is finding where they are in the Windows system as Mickeysoft keeps hiding them to stop users deleting the rubbish. You could do with CCleaner (a free program) to get rid of it all. An old link, bookmark, will get corrupted and give a false impression. If they were doing some maintenance on the site when you first tried, that could cause the your computer to keep trying on that link. A reboot will sometimes work as well. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

today I went and tried accessing the cached webpage. after a mighty struggle, it managed to drag down a down and dirty version of a cached page. ok, I recognise this issue, we have 3 accounts on this computer, and in my account 23andme website is corrupted. now SEAX is corrupted in just the same manner in my husband's account-except I can get into 23, but it is uncooperative otherwise. SEAX is much more difficult to access, but also when I get there I can't use the site. what is the issue with these two? how do I fix it? (other than using my husband's acct for 23andme, and my acct for SEAX, 23andme works just fine in his acct, and I assume SEAX will work fine in mine) Cornelia On Mon 06/27/11 1:14 AM , Charani [email protected] sent: [email protected] [1] wrote: > it's > just SEAX that's the problem. Sometimes an old cookie will cause a problem so clearing cookies, temp internet files and temp files will usually do the trick. The problem is finding where they are in the Windows system as Mickeysoft keeps hiding them to stop users deleting the rubbish. You could do with CCleaner (a free program) to get rid of it all. An old link, bookmark, will get corrupted and give a false impression. If they were doing some maintenance on the site when you first tried, that could cause the your computer to keep trying on that link. A reboot will sometimes work as well. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk [2] http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/ [3] Links: ------ [1] mailto:[email protected] [2] http://wsom-opc.org.uk [3] http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

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Hi Cornelia Prior to 1858, the proving of wills was a matter for ecclesiastical (church) courts, of which there were a great many. After that date, the state took over and the system became a national, rather than a local one. The ERO leaflet at http://tinyurl.com/3tt7w9k may be helpful to you. Don't forget, though, that the likelihood of your ancestors having made wills decreases as you go back in time. Best wishes Caroline > > > Ancestry has a probate calender for 1861-1941 and I've spent some > time playing in it today and finding many wills and probates that I > failed to find either at SEAX during previous visits or A2A during > previous and current visits. a lovely tool, though I haven't > succeeded in finding all of my cousins so am not sure I've found all > of the wills and probates. > > my question, do earlier calenders exist, and if so, are any > online > and where do I find them. I need them into the 1500's. > > thank you, > > Cornelia > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: Essex-UK- > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ESSEX-UK- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Ancestry has a probate calender for 1861-1941 and I've spent some time playing in it today and finding many wills and probates that I failed to find either at SEAX during previous visits or A2A during previous and current visits. a lovely tool, though I haven't succeeded in finding all of my cousins so am not sure I've found all of the wills and probates. my question, do earlier calenders exist, and if so, are any online and where do I find them. I need them into the 1500's. thank you, Cornelia

I didn't have any trouble accessing SEAX just now. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 8:02 PM Subject: [Ess] how long has SEAX been down? > > and when will it be back online? > > meanwhile, does anyone have access to Colchester Wesleyan Methodist > church records for the early 1800's, or Lawford/Manningtree church > records of any denomination? seriously, I could die before SEAX gets > them online, and I'm the only person really interested in finding > this couple and their family, so far. > > Hezekiah RICHARDS Birth: ABT 1767 > > Marriage 1 Ann HARRIS [1] > *Married: 24 Feb 1790 in Lawford,Essex,England > *Hezekiah RICHARDS [2] c: 13 Oct 1791 in Lawford,Essex,Englan > * Mary RICHARDS [3] b: 8 Aug 1803 in Colchester, Essex, England > c: 7 Sep 1803 in Colchester, Essex, England > I hope that shows. their parents were Hezekiah and Ann Richards, > said to be of Lawford before they removed to Colchester shortly > before Mary was born. > > I have Mary's christening records and Hezekiah's marriage to > Elizabeth Ladbroke, but do not have Hezekiah and Ann's marriage and > there should be children in between Hezekiah chr. 1791 and Mary b. > 1803. > > Cornelia > in Oregon, U.S.A.

not great with technology but I figured it out after a while. about half are GoogleEarth files. about 2/3 of the remainder are icons, the rest are either cookies or unknowns. there are a lot of things in there, but most of them I use on a daily basis and it would just replace them. besides, I'm having no problems with any other sites I'm using today, as I have mentioned before. I'm on broadband and having no real difficulties with it-intermitant and rare drag time sometimes in my email box, but otherwise, everything's working fine. except for SEAX. I accessed ?Rootsweb today, from it's home page to it's message board to saved links to my family trees, I accessed A2A today, Parish Clerks website, Rootsweb's FreeBMD, FreeReg, Ancestry, 23andme, Ebay, Google and many others, no problem what so ever. it's just SEAX that's the problem. BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } On Sun 06/26/11 7:01 PM , Anne Chambers [email protected] sent: It works fine for me - try emptying your browser cache and then try again. If you don't know how to do that and if you are using Internet Explorer here's how to do it http://www.wcnet.org/support/wc/iecache.php [1] If you are using a different browser, Google for "empty cache " and your browser name. Anne South Australia [email protected] [2] wrote: > > I still can't, though other websites work fine for me. can't figure > it. > On Sun 06/26/11 5:26 PM , "Margaret Taylor" [email protected] [3] sent: > I didn't have any trouble accessing SEAX just now. > Margaret > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 8:02 PM > Subject: [Ess] how long has SEAX been down? > > > > and when will it be back online? > > I have Mary's christening records and Hezekiah's marriage to > > Elizabeth Ladbroke, but do not have Hezekiah and Ann's marriage > and > > there should be children in between Hezekiah chr. 1791 and Mary b. > > 1803. > > > > Cornelia > > in Oregon, U.S.A. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] [4] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] [5] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Links: ------ [1] http://www.wcnet.org/support/wc/iecache.php [2] mailto:[email protected] [3] mailto:[email protected] [4] mailto:[email protected] [5] mailto:[email protected]

I still can't, though other websites work fine for me. can't figure it. On Sun 06/26/11 5:26 PM , "Margaret Taylor" [email protected] sent: I didn't have any trouble accessing SEAX just now. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 8:02 PM Subject: [Ess] how long has SEAX been down? > > and when will it be back online? > > meanwhile, does anyone have access to Colchester Wesleyan Methodist > church records for the early 1800's, or Lawford/Manningtree church > records of any denomination? seriously, I could die before SEAX gets > them online, and I'm the only person really interested in finding > this couple and their family, so far. > > Hezekiah RICHARDS Birth: ABT 1767 > > Marriage 1 Ann HARRIS [1] > *Married: 24 Feb 1790 in Lawford,Essex,England > *Hezekiah RICHARDS [2] c: 13 Oct 1791 in Lawford,Essex,Englan > * Mary RICHARDS [3] b: 8 Aug 1803 in Colchester, Essex, England > c: 7 Sep 1803 in Colchester, Essex, England > I hope that shows. their parents were Hezekiah and Ann Richards, > said to be of Lawford before they removed to Colchester shortly > before Mary was born. > > I have Mary's christening records and Hezekiah's marriage to > Elizabeth Ladbroke, but do not have Hezekiah and Ann's marriage and > there should be children in between Hezekiah chr. 1791 and Mary b. > 1803. > > Cornelia > in Oregon, U.S.A. Links: ------ [1] mailto:[email protected] [2] mailto:[email protected]

and when will it be back online? meanwhile, does anyone have access to Colchester Wesleyan Methodist church records for the early 1800's, or Lawford/Manningtree church records of any denomination? seriously, I could die before SEAX gets them online, and I'm the only person really interested in finding this couple and their family, so far. Hezekiah RICHARDS Birth: ABT 1767 Marriage 1 Ann HARRIS [1] *Married: 24 Feb 1790 in Lawford,Essex,England *Hezekiah RICHARDS [2] c: 13 Oct 1791 in Lawford,Essex,Englan * Mary RICHARDS [3] b: 8 Aug 1803 in Colchester, Essex, England c: 7 Sep 1803 in Colchester, Essex, England I hope that shows. their parents were Hezekiah and Ann Richards, said to be of Lawford before they removed to Colchester shortly before Mary was born. I have Mary's christening records and Hezekiah's marriage to Elizabeth Ladbroke, but do not have Hezekiah and Ann's marriage and there should be children in between Hezekiah chr. 1791 and Mary b. 1803. Cornelia in Oregon, U.S.A. Links: ------ [1] http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&amp;db=necko&amp;id=I9821 [2] http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&amp;db=necko&amp;id=I8145 [3] http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&amp;db=necko&amp;id=I10930