yes, thank you, Pat. Tower Hamlets is what I meant. quite tired last night, it would not come to mind, but I knew I had a good chance of forgetting it totally by morning. I have "lost" most of my Colchester family in 1841. my 3x great grandfather is visiting his mother in Colchester, but I have several clues that point me to Middlesex (or London) as his place of residence in the 1840's. in 1843 he immigrated to America. where were his wife and family in 1841? I have various places he may have lived, Tower Hamelets, St. George in the East, St. Leonard Shoreditch, St. Marylebone, St. George Hanover, Miles End Old Town (all Middlesex), but they don't show up anywhere in 1841 at Ancestry-except for my 3x great grandfather and his widowed mother. I do find his siblings families, but not his. the missing family members his eldest child, already married and with a family of his own; Joseph Aubrey Cross b. 13 Aug 1803, wife Rebecca (Sidnell), b. Spring, 1815 children; Joseph James b. 3 Oct 1834 Rebecca K. b. 13 Dec 1835 George William b. abt 1838 Aubrey Joseph b. abt 1838 maybe John P. b. 1841 Hannah Cross nee Smith b. 12 Dec 1785 of Colchester Maria Ann b. 27 Aug 1809 Colchester William H. b. 28 Sep 1811 Colchester John b. 2 Aug 1815 Colchester Hannah Lydia b. 13 Jan 1818 Colchester James b. 27 Jul 1820 Colchester Josiah A. b. 4 Oct 1822 Colchester none of the children listed with Hannah married until after immigrating to America. I have a lot of data on the Cross's, they're a heavily papertrailed line, but little of anything on Hannah Smith Cross, and no census for 1841 for her or any of her children. and while I'm here-who was Aubrey Cross b. abt 1793 of Miles End Old Town? I wonder if he is the person who Joseph Aubrey was named for, and how he fits into the family-if he does? thank you. Cornelia On Wed 09/14/11 12:38 AM , Patricia Salter [email protected] sent: > You are probably thinking of Tower Hamlets in East London. > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:31:20 +0100 > > Subject: Re: [Ess] OT Towers district > > > > Hi Cornelia > > > > There is no Towers (or Tower) district in 1841. The City had three > EDs - > > London City, East London and West London. There are no significant > missing > > bits of any of these, so far as I am aware. The major gaps in the > 1841 for > > London are the whole of Paddington, part of Kensington and bit of > St Luke. > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Caroline > > > > > > > > recent talk of missing census reminds me that I need a refresher. > were > > > the 1841 census records for the Towers(?) district in E. London > (if > > > memory is kind, I don't have notes at hand) > > > destroyed? > > > > > > Cornelia > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

You are probably thinking of Tower Hamlets in East London. > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:31:20 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Ess] OT Towers district > > Hi Cornelia > > There is no Towers (or Tower) district in 1841. The City had three EDs - > London City, East London and West London. There are no significant missing > bits of any of these, so far as I am aware. The major gaps in the 1841 for > London are the whole of Paddington, part of Kensington and bit of St Luke. > > Hope this helps > > Caroline > > > > > recent talk of missing census reminds me that I need a refresher. were > > the 1841 census records for the Towers(?) district in E. London (if > > memory is kind, I don't have notes at hand) > > destroyed? > > > > Cornelia > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Any members of ancestry.com with an interest in Ardleigh should note that a good deal of the 1871 census is missing from their database. Districts 1 and 2 are completely missing and only the last page (page 15) of District 3 is included. District 4 seems ok. I notified ancestry.com of this problem back on 3rd January, 2010 and was told - "Please understand that fixes to errors on Ancestry are posted firstly in the order of those which affect the greatest number of users, and thereafter in the order in which they are reported. For this reason, fixes for some errors may take longer than others to be posted. We appreciate your patience." After waiting for 1 year and 8 months I contacted them again and was told - "We appreciate your interest in the 1871 England Census. We currently have a hired team that scans and transcribes the collections we receive. Please understand that we receive a large volume of error submissions in our queue. Fixes to errors on Ancestry.com are posted firstly in the order of those which affect the greatest number of users, and thereafter in the order in which they are reported. As the queue is quite large, there is no foreseeable timeframe as to if or when those changes will be made. We regret the inconvenience this may cause." I suspect many ancestry.com members are just unaware that these records are missing and might waste considerable amounts of time looking for records that just are not there to be found. So if this problem is affecting any other ancestry.com members on the list please take note and contact ancestry.com to have this problem fixed. Thanks Karen Sydney, Australia

Hi Cornelia There is no Towers (or Tower) district in 1841. The City had three EDs - London City, East London and West London. There are no significant missing bits of any of these, so far as I am aware. The major gaps in the 1841 for London are the whole of Paddington, part of Kensington and bit of St Luke. Hope this helps Caroline > > recent talk of missing census reminds me that I need a refresher. were > the 1841 census records for the Towers(?) district in E. London (if > memory is kind, I don't have notes at hand) > destroyed? > > Cornelia >

Hello Dick, Arkesden parish registers have not survived for dates before 1690. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Coleman" > Hi, I’m new to this list & looking for a little help in tracking my 6 x gt > grandfather John COLEMAN, believed to have been born in Arkesden. Most of > my Coleman ancestors lived just across the border in Cambs, and this one > certainly moved there, marrying a girl in Thriplow, Cambs in 1696. > > I’ve seen a suggested birthdate of 1671, but that may be no more than an > estimate. > > Is there anyone on the list with access to Arkesden PR’s who might be able > to take a look for John? > > Thanks > > Dick

Hi Listers Thanks to all who responded to my query of Clavering Village Jacquie Brisbane Oz > > Would you be so kind as to tell me the surrounding villages around > Clavering > > > > Jacquie, > >

*The Phillimore Atlas and Index of Parish Registers* also gives a start date of 1690 for the Arkesden registers. On 13 September 2011 21:52, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > As you are new to the list I have mentioned acronyms that regular listers > know, but you would not. > > > > The Essex Record Office (ERO) has many of the parish registered digitised > on SEAX (ERO's online service) for you to seach. However, looking at > ARKESDEN the earliest baptism is 1690, which is too late for you, but there > may be other family members that might interest you . I do not know if this > is the earliest that the parish started recording or the earliest that ERO > had access to. > > > > Shirley in Florida > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dick Coleman" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:58:34 AM > Subject: [Ess] John COLEMAN, c. 1671 Arkesden > > Hi, I’m new to this list & looking for a little help in tracking my 6 x gt > grandfather John COLEMAN, believed to have been born in Arkesden. Most of my > Coleman ancestors lived just across the border in Cambs, and this one > certainly moved there, marrying a girl in Thriplow, Cambs in 1696. > > I’ve seen a suggested birthdate of 1671, but that may be no more than an > estimate. > > Is there anyone on the list with access to Arkesden PR’s who might be able > to take a look for John? > > Thanks > > Dick > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hope you are still reading this list Brian -it's so long since I was in touch that I have no idea if I still have your address. I have recently bought a postcard off ebay addressed to Miss Dix, Angel Hotel, Market Harbro, Leicestershire, franked at Portsmouth on August 7th 1905. The message reads "Dear Edna, Please have you a photo you can give me Nora Furness Lodge Southsea East. The reason I think Edna Dix might be one of yours is, despite where it was franked, and apparently sent from, it is of Hempstead in Essex. Hope that is of interest! Adrian

recent talk of missing census reminds me that I need a refresher. were the 1841 census records for the Towers(?) district in E. London (if memory is kind, I don't have notes at hand) destroyed? Cornelia

As you are new to the list I have mentioned acronyms that regular listers know, but you would not. The Essex Record Office (ERO) has many of the parish registered digitised on SEAX (ERO's online  service)  for you to seach. However, looking at ARKESDEN the earliest baptism is 1690, which is too late for you, but there may be other family members that might interest you . I do not know if this is the earliest that the parish started recording or the earliest that ERO had access to.    Shirley in Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Coleman" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:58:34 AM Subject: [Ess] John COLEMAN, c. 1671 Arkesden Hi, I’m new to this list & looking for a little help in tracking my 6 x gt grandfather John COLEMAN, believed to have been born in Arkesden. Most of my Coleman ancestors lived just across the border in Cambs, and this one certainly moved there, marrying a girl in Thriplow, Cambs in 1696. I’ve seen a suggested birthdate of 1671, but that may be no more than an estimate. Is there anyone on the list with access to Arkesden PR’s who might be able to take a look for John? Thanks Dick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers Thank you to the many folk that replied to my research question; the response was wonderful. After careful consideration I have come to the conclusion that I will have to order the marriage certificate if I want to pin point the church. Thanks again, this is a great list and I always get a response. Jenny in Oz I wrote: "Harry William LINCOLN (1868-1950) married Kate Maude KNAPP (1874-1957) in Dec 1896, Romford, Essex, England". I have googled and the top three links all refer to Romford Baptist Church. Other than buying a certificate how can I find out what church they married in

Hi, I’m new to this list & looking for a little help in tracking my 6 x gt grandfather John COLEMAN, believed to have been born in Arkesden. Most of my Coleman ancestors lived just across the border in Cambs, and this one certainly moved there, marrying a girl in Thriplow, Cambs in 1696. I’ve seen a suggested birthdate of 1671, but that may be no more than an estimate. Is there anyone on the list with access to Arkesden PR’s who might be able to take a look for John? Thanks Dick

Jenny, Don't forget to let us know the outcome of your research question. I for one am always interested when listers post a question, we all pitch in and then we never know the outcome. Kind regards, Shirley in Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 2:02:40 AM Subject: [Ess] What Church In Romford Dear Listers Thank you to the many folk that replied to my research question; the response was wonderful. After careful consideration I have come to the conclusion that I will have to order the marriage certificate if I want to pin point the church. Thanks again, this is a great list and I always get a response. Jenny in Oz I wrote: "Harry William LINCOLN (1868-1950) married Kate Maude KNAPP (1874-1957) in Dec 1896, Romford, Essex, England". I have googled and the top three links all refer to Romford Baptist Church. Other than buying a certificate how can I find out what church they married in ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think Ruth has got it exactly right - Christopher was deceased, and Sarah was baptised in "around" her 20th year. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Linda Collie" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 11:57 AM To: "Essex UK Rootsweb List" <[email protected]> Subject: [Ess] Help need someone to decipher for me ? > > Hi, Can anyone decipher something for me. It is via SEAX original parish > registers that have been digital images and is for TERLING All Saints > Church baptism's 1538-1688 and is on Page 115, it is the 3rd entry down > the left hand page and starts - Sarah d/o Christopher Fincham ( ? ) > baptized y 24th day (month is March 1671) ( ? ) then it says something abt > 20th year and then something else I cannot understand. I have a feeling > it may say she was 20years old when baptised, but not sure. Help please. > > Thankyou > > Linda > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, Can anyone decipher something for me. It is via SEAX original parish registers that have been digital images and is for TERLING All Saints Church baptism's 1538-1688 and is on Page 115, it is the 3rd entry down the left hand page and starts - Sarah d/o Christopher Fincham ( ? ) baptized y 24th day (month is March 1671) ( ? ) then it says something abt 20th year and then something else I cannot understand. I have a feeling it may say she was 20years old when baptised, but not sure. Help please. Thankyou Linda

Hi Linda I think it reads *March [1761/62] Sarah ye: daughtr: of Christopher Fincham (deceased) was baptized ye: 24th: day circiter 20th: year aetatis suae * circiter = about aetatis suae = of her age Best wishes Ruth On 12 September 2011 11:57, Linda Collie <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, Can anyone decipher something for me. It is via SEAX original parish > registers that have been digital images and is for TERLING All Saints Church > baptism's 1538-1688 and is on Page 115, it is the 3rd entry down the left > hand page and starts - Sarah d/o Christopher Fincham ( ? ) baptized y 24th > day (month is March 1671) ( ? ) then it says something abt 20th year and > then something else I cannot understand. I have a feeling it may say she > was 20years old when baptised, but not sure. Help please. > > Thankyou > > Linda > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does anyone know any history of this private boys school situated off Maldon Rd, Sandon, near Chelmsford Essex? From Registers of Electors it appears to have been founded in about 1950 and continued to about 2000. Eric Probert

Medal card image sent Anne South Australia Stuart Oakes wrote: > Hi > > > >> From various certificates I have discovered that my Granddad was a Sapper in the Royal Engineers and he was an electrical engineer as was his father. > > My Granddads name was John Joseph Murphy and I suspect that he had been wounded during the First World War as his address was given as the Military Hospital Colchester. > > My Nan a Nurse must have fallen in love for they married in June 1916. > > His Dad Francis Murphy attended the wedding and he was recorded as an electrician. > > In April 1917 at the birth of my Uncle Francis Joseph Murphy, my Granddad is recorded as a Private in the Royal Auxiliary Medical Corp. > > > > This far and now it's my wall, as there is no army number to relate too I am at a loss on what or where to look now. > > > > If any kind person could advise me I would be very grateful. > > > > Stuart > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Stuart & Listers ! Just a minor point - but it may help if you are trying to trace Army records - the initials R.A.M.C. stand for Royal Army Medical Corps ! - the 'A.' does not stand for 'Auxiliary' !! Best Wishes ! Roger. ---------------------- On 11 Sep 2011, at 18:30, Stuart Oakes wrote: > Hi > >> From various certificates I have discovered that my Granddad was a >> Sapper in the Royal Engineers and he was an electrical engineer as >> was his father. > > My Granddads name was John Joseph Murphy and I suspect that he had > been wounded during the First World War as his address was given as > the Military Hospital Colchester. > > My Nan a Nurse must have fallen in love for they married in June 1916. > > His Dad Francis Murphy attended the wedding and he was recorded as > an electrician. > > In April 1917 at the birth of my Uncle Francis Joseph Murphy, my > Granddad is recorded as a Private in the Royal Auxiliary Medical Corp. > > This far and now it's my wall, as there is no army number to relate > too I am at a loss on what or where to look now. > > If any kind person could advise me I would be very grateful. > > Stuart

He might not be yours and it may not help... Philip Maddocks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Maddocks" <[email protected]> To: "Stuart Oakes" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [Ess] First World War Murphy > Description > Medal card of Murphy, Joseph J > Corps Regiment No Rank > Royal Engineers 108394 Sapper > > Date 1914-1920 Catalogue reference > > will cost you £2 at tna.gov.uk and may not tell you much > > Philip Maddocks > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stuart Oakes" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 6:30 PM > Subject: [Ess] First World War Murphy > > >> Hi >> >> >> >>>From various certificates I have discovered that my Granddad was a Sapper >>>in the Royal Engineers and he was an electrical engineer as was his >>>father. >> >> My Granddads name was John Joseph Murphy and I suspect that he had been >> wounded during the First World War as his address was given as the >> Military Hospital Colchester. >> >> My Nan a Nurse must have fallen in love for they married in June 1916. >> >> His Dad Francis Murphy attended the wedding and he was recorded as an >> electrician. >> >> In April 1917 at the birth of my Uncle Francis Joseph Murphy, my Granddad >> is recorded as a Private in the Royal Auxiliary Medical Corp. >> >> >> >> This far and now it's my wall, as there is no army number to relate too I >> am at a loss on what or where to look now. >> >> >> >> If any kind person could advise me I would be very grateful. >> >> >> >> Stuart >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >