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    1. [ENG-ROOTS] Re: GRANGE MOOR near Chester England
    2. Marcella S
    3. Thanks Lynne The ancestor’s name is Thomas HENDERSON b Oct 25 1841 at GRANGE MOOR near Chester??? I can’t find a birth/Baptism record for him …I guess that’s why there needed to be an evidence declaration for his birth date In the evidence record, Helen Donald Murie - declared that Thomas is her nephew and his date and place of birth as above …..this is a handwritten document recently found in a Find My Past dataset The reason I am trying to troubleshoot this is that DNA results seem to confirm a biological relationship between the Donalds/Muries/Hendersons where there should be none Helen DONALD Murie, the aunt, testifying in the document is a DONALD …Thomas Henderson is the son of Helen’s brother, John Henderson Donald (aka John Henderson) …or so we believe (unfortunately the evidence document does not name the parents of Thomas Henderson) ..a name change like this would account for the Henderson matches but I would like to have support for the parents of Thomas Henderson There are always other possibilities: Thomas’s mother is Helen’s sister or the Henderson biology was introduced further back or some other way but those are whole new ball games …!!!!!! Thanks for your help Marcella Findlay Shames > On Feb 2, 2019, at 5:34 PM, Lynne <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Marcella > > I wouldn't trust Google to always provide the right answer. One of the best resources for location information is GENUKI's Gazetteer (see https://www.genuki.org.uk/gazetteer). > > There's a Grangemoor Road in Runcorn, which is close to Chester (in Cheshire). I'm unaware of a second Chester. > > There are lots of Grange Mores, but in Ireland and Scotland, and, as you say, a Grange Moor in Yorkshire. > > Grange Moor could be the name of a house. I suppose. > > Perhaps if you'll provide us with a little more information, such as your ancestor's full name and any other info you have about him, someone can help. > > Kind regards, > Lynne > > > Marcella S <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> HI List >> >> I have an Evidence of Age document that reads:…’he was born Oct 25 1841 at Grange Moor near Chester England….’ >> >> >> It seems there are two Chesters and Grange Moor in my Google search is near neither of them - it turns up in Yorkshire >> >> Any information relating to where/what my Grange Moor might be is much appreciated >> >> Thanks >> Marcella Shames > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/[email protected] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    02/04/2019 10:10:12
    1. [ENG-ROOTS] Re: GRANGE MOOR near Chester England
    2. Lynne
    3. Hi Marcella I wouldn't trust Google to always provide the right answer. One of the best resources for location information is GENUKI's Gazetteer (see https://www.genuki.org.uk/gazetteer). There's a Grangemoor Road in Runcorn, which is close to Chester (in Cheshire). I'm unaware of a second Chester. There are lots of Grange Mores, but in Ireland and Scotland, and, as you say, a Grange Moor in Yorkshire. Grange Moor could be the name of a house. I suppose. Perhaps if you'll provide us with a little more information, such as your ancestor's full name and any other info you have about him, someone can help. Kind regards, Lynne Marcella S <[email protected]> wrote: > >HI List > >I have an Evidence of Age document that reads:…’he was born Oct 25 1841 at Grange Moor near Chester England….’ > > >It seems there are two Chesters and Grange Moor in my Google search is near neither of them - it turns up in Yorkshire > >Any information relating to where/what my Grange Moor might be is much appreciated > >Thanks >Marcella Shames

    02/02/2019 05:35:05
    1. [ENG-ROOTS] GRANGE MOOR near Chester England
    2. Marcella S
    3. HI List I have an Evidence of Age document that reads:…’he was born Oct 25 1841 at Grange Moor near Chester England….’ It seems there are two Chesters and Grange Moor in my Google search is near neither of them - it turns up in Yorkshire Any information relating to where/what my Grange Moor might be is much appreciated Thanks Marcella Shames

    02/02/2019 02:56:44
    1. [ENG-ROOTS] GRO certificate costs to increase in February
    2. Lynne
    3. First announced by Peter Calver in his LostCousins newsletter and now written about by UKBMD, a variety of family history societies, and Who Do You Think You Are Magazine, certificate costs will increase 16 February 2019. From Who Do You Think You Are magazine, "Increased charges for this service, which will come into force on 16 February 2019, have now been published in Statutory Instrument No 1268, 'Registration of births, deaths & marriages, etc., England and Wales', available on the UK government's legislation website. "The cost of print certificates will increase from £9.25 to £11, and from £23.40 to £35 for the priority service, which allows delivery on the next working day. The same costs will apply if researchers order the certificate from their local register office. "In October 2017 the GRO introduced a new pilot scheme allowing researchers to order PDF copies of digitised birth and death records for £6 each. Following an estimated 79,600 PDF orders in three months, the scheme was extended indefinitely. "The cost of PDF records will now increase to £7, with priority deliveries available at £45. "If researchers make an application to the GRO for a certificate copy without knowing the index reference, there will be an additional non-refundable fee of £3 in exchange for GRO staff carrying out a search of the index. Currently, this service is free. "There will also be a fee of £3.50 where the GRO cannot fulfil an order because the staff cannot locate the record with the information provided. "The increased fees are the first pricing changes at the GRO since 2010."

    01/04/2019 06:04:02
    1. [ENG-ROOTS] "We Were There Too" project extended to the North West
    2. Lynne
    3. From the Bury Times (www.burytimes.co.uk) : "A NEW digital archive immortalising the contribution of members of the region's Jewish community to the First World War has been unveiled. "The We Were There Too project represents a permanent record of the lives of Jewish men, women and families between 1914 and 1918, and details their military service and efforts on the home front. "First introduced in London in 2016, the project has now been extended to the North West thanks to a Heritage Lottery Fund Grant. "The Mayor of Bury, Councillor Jane Black, attended the project's launch ceremony at the King David High School in Manchester alongside other civic, military and religious leaders. "Another launched ceremony was also held at Princess Road Synagogue in Liverpool. "Cllr Black said: 'I attended this important event as Mayor, along with my husband Mark. Bury is a proud army town and it was so interesting to hear about this project as mayor, but also as a Jew whose father, uncles and grandfather fought in the British Army.' "At the launches a series of emotive readings were given by young people and members of the Jewish community, including poems by Jewish war poets Isaac Rosenberg and Siegfried Sassoon. "A moving act of remembrance then followed, led by Reserve Army Chaplain Rabbi Ariel Abel. "The We Were There Too database will offer an insight into Jewish life in Britain in the early 20th century through a number of research resources which have been brought together for the first time. "In the future more collections of rare material will be added, and, in keeping with Jewish tradition, the site will also allow visitors to permanently memorialise their ancestors to commemorate their deaths annually. "Cllr Black said: 'As the years pass by and our ancestors are no longer with us, it is important to find ways to remember. The web technology used here will help us make the history of families and our country available to new generations. "'I was particularly moved to hear how some families are now able to say memorial prayers on the anniversaries of their ancestors’ deaths, so that their lives are now being remembered. "'My own grandfather fought in the First World War, and I hope to find out more about what he did through this project.' "The project is now appealing from people to volunteer and help maintain the collections. 'Volunteers will be offered training in research, handling historical information, technology project planning and communication. 'Alan Fell, the We Were There Too project senior consultant, said: 'We are now asking people to volunteer to help us maintain this important and valuable asset. "'Whatever your age, knowledge of the First World War, research experience or understanding of computers, if you think you have a family member who lived in Britain during the war, or are interested to research a name in the British Jewry Book of Honour, on a Synagogue Memorial Board, a gravestone or a host of other memorials, then we will help you to find out more about them and build a Personal Record.'” For more information or to get involved visit www.jewsfww.uk or email [email protected]

    01/04/2019 08:19:22
    1. [ENG-ROOTS] LancashireBMD updates Dec 7 and 15, 2018
    2. Lynne
    3. News from John Marsden - New data has been added at www.lancashirebmd.org.uk as follows: Added 131 Births for Lancaster RD comprising: Preesall (1969-1974) Added 2,336 Births for Hyndburn RD comprising: Haslingden (1890-1895) Added 6,356 Births for Bury RD comprising: Bury (1965-1968) Added 3,010 Deaths for Bury RD comprising: Radcliffe (1934-1937); Elton (1890-1892) Added 915 Marriages for Fleetwood and Fylde RD comprising: Poulton-le-Fylde, Methodist Church (Queensway), (1940-2000) St. Annes-on-Sea, The Drive Methodist Church (Clifton Drive South) (1909-1998) Thanks are due to Tony Foster and his team for the above. Added 33,722 Births for Manchester RD comprising: Manchester (1990-1997) Added 32,716 Deaths for Manchester RD comprising: Manchester (1988-1997) Thanks are due to Liz Williamson and Phil Wharram and their team. For access to all the UK's major BMD and Census sites visit https://www.UKBMD.org.uk/ For access to all the UK's major Family History sites visit http://www.UKGDL.org.uk/ For access to all the UK's major Military Family History sites visit http://www.UKMFH.org.uk/

    12/24/2018 10:45:08
    1. [ENG-ROOTS] Staffordshire BMD updates 6 Dec 2018
    2. Lynne
    3. The Staffordshire BMD has been updated with the following records: Deaths: 3,005 for Hanley, registers at Stoke-On-Trent (1935-1943) 5,347 for Stoke, registers at Stoke-On-Trent (1949-1955) Marriages: 53 for Northwood, Trinity Methodist Church, registers at Stoke-On-Trent (1997-2013) 10 for Norton Green, Zion Methodist Church, registers at Stoke-On-Trent (1986-2002) 4 for Stockton Brook (Leek Rd), Methodist Chapel, registers at Stoke-On-Trent (2004-2005) 42 for Blurton (Magdelen Rd), Methodist Church, registers at Stoke-On-Trent (1969-1994) 1 for Longton , Polish Centre, registers at Stoke-On-Trent (2010-2010) Many thanks to Bill Harrison and the Staffs BMD volunteers. The Staffordshire BMD can be found at http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk and the West Midlands BMD at http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk For access to all the UK's major BMD and Census sites visit https://www.UKBMD.org.uk/ For access to all the UK's major Family History sites visit http://www.UKGDL.org.uk/ For access to all the UK's major Military Family History sites visit http://www.UKMFH.org.uk/

    12/24/2018 10:45:07
    1. [ENG-ROOTS] Cheshire BMD Updates, Dec 6 and 14, 2018
    2. Lynne
    3. News from Ian Hartas - Cheshire BMD has been updated as follows: Marriages: 10 for Claughton, St Michael, registers at Wirral (1957-1958) 501 for Rock Ferry, St Barnabas, registers at Wirral (1952-1964) 20 for Prenton, Methodist Church (Glenavon Road), registers at Wirral (1954-1965) 102 for West Kirby, Methodist Church (Westbourne Road), registers at Wirral (1953-1969) 21 for Hoylake, St Andrew's United Reformed Church (Birkenhead Road), registers at Wirral (1953-1962) 794 for Birkenhead, Civil Marriage, registers at Wirral (1966-1968) Births: Replaced 2,083 for Wallasey, registers at Wirral (1916-1922) to add mother's maiden names Replaced 1,013 for Woodchurch, registers at Wirral (1851-1855) to add mother's maiden names Many thanks to Helen Gill and colleagues for these. See http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/update.php for updates For access to all the UK's major BMD and Census sites visit https://www.UKBMD.org.uk/ For access to all the UK's major Family History sites visit http://www.UKGDL.org.uk/ For access to all the UK's major Military Family History sites visit http://www.UKMFH.org.uk/

    12/24/2018 10:45:07
    1. [ENG-ROOTS] National Archives - Change in fees
    2. Lynne
    3. From <http://livelb.nationalarchives.gov.uk/about/news/changes-to-our-fees/> - "From 1 February 2019, there will be changes to some of the fees we charge. "Archive boxes on repository shelvesAs a government department providing a public service, we are able to charge for some statutory services (as defined by the Public Records Act ) on a cost recovery basis. The Fees Order, which regulates our fees, has been refreshed from the last calculation which came into effect 1 April 2017. We are maintaining the standard approach in line with the HM Treasury publication, Managing Public Money, to set charges at a level that will recover full costs, ensuring that The National Archives neither profits at the expense of consumers nor makes a loss for taxpayers to subsidise. "There are both price increases and decreases, for example a digital copy up to A3 size goes up by 10p to £1.20. Currently, our research service cost £23.35 per 15 minutes, this will go up by £1.00 however, the charge for a copy of a naturalisation certificate will go down by 25p to £27.15. "As there is no legal requirement for The National Archives to digitise physical public records these services are by definition discretionary. We have therefore removed the following digital surrogate related lines: • The creation of digital surrogates funded by others (for a commercial return, or to widen access) • Reprographic charges (Production and Estimation) • Image Library (Serviced Copies – Colour Photograph) • Digital Downloads • Conservation for Digitisation "In addition to, but separate from, the Fees Order changes, we are introducing a fee for the provision of letters of no evidence of naturalisation, in the same way that we charge for certified copies of naturalisation certificates. They will incur a fee of £27.15 which is regulated to be the cost recovery price (i.e. the cost to The National Archives doing the work). "A full list of fees can be found here <www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/record-copying-prices-february-2019.pdf>" Don't shoot the messenger! Lynne

    12/23/2018 04:19:09
    1. [ENG-ROOTS] Season's Greetings
    2. Lynne
    3. Dear Friends, My sincere best wishes to all of you for a very merry Christmas. May the coming year bring you peace, good health, and joy, plus a few demolished brick walls. Warm regards, Lynne list admin.

    12/21/2018 10:22:23
    1. [ENG-ROOTS] Giveaways - Federation of Family History Societies (FFHS)
    2. Lynne
    3. The Christmas edition of the FFHS has links to multiple giveaways -- too many for me to list here -- and a DNA report in which you might be interested. See <https://mailchi.mp/ffhs/christmas-newsletter-2018?e=e5e58f2aea> for the online edition. Enjoy! Lynne

    12/17/2018 09:22:35
    1. [ENG-ROOTS] Inquests reported in UK newspapers
    2. Lynne
    3. From the Macquarie University in Australia, some Coronial Inquests extracted from local newspapers. Scroll down and click on the country of interest then click on the county. There's also a page of deaths at sea. Be aware, it's a very interesting resource but also very gruesome. <http://www.law.mq.edu.au/research/colonial_case_law/colonial_cases/less_developed/coronial_inquests/> or <https://tinyurl.com/yb3ct2qe> My thanks to Adele on the Lancashire list for pointing out this resource. Please do let us know if you find an ancestor mentioned. Lynne

    12/16/2018 09:25:12
    1. [ENG-ROOTS] images of poor children in Victorian Britain
    2. Lynne
    3. Very sad photos from the Liverpool City Library and the Records Office published in yesterday's Daily Mail: https://tinyurl.com/y9ptuphk Lynne

    12/12/2018 09:13:00
    1. [ENG-ROOTS] Re: Re Wills, Furnell,Hussey
    2. Eliz & Ian Cook
    3. > On 18 Jul 2018, at 12:09 pm, Eliz & Ian Cook <[email protected]> wrote: > My Wills and Furnell ancestors left rural England for Australia in the 1800's. Why would they do that? > They farmed in rural areas and the Furnell and Wills side were in Pyramid Hill and Wangaretta in Victoria. > Elizabeth >> >> >> On Tuesday, July 17, 2018, 2:21:38 PM PDT, Lynne <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hello everyone >> >> There's no point in having a mailing list if there's no activity and if there's no activity the list may be shut down. Don't let that happen. Please contribute to this list in some way. >> >> Why are you here? What are you seeking? What do you know that might help someone discover their English roots? >> >> Lynne >>

    11/26/2018 02:16:11
    1. [ENG-ROOTS] West Essex Branch ( Harlow ) Essex Society for Family History
    2. Lynne
    3. Christmas Family History Quiz with Elizabeth Cox Saturday 1 December 2018 Doors open 2.15 pm for 2.45 pm start St John's Arts & Recreation Centre (ARC) St John's Walk. Market Street Harlow, Essex CM17 0AJ "The December meeting will reflect the season with a Family History Quiz. Elizabeth will be asking the questions. We will be asking our Committee members to lead teams. We will naturally want to be able to answer all the questions and enjoy the light-hearted rivalry. But it is not just a competition to be the top team. We will all learn something new from the questions that we cannot answer. We will appreciate contributions of small festive prizes for a bumper raffle. Come along learn something new and enjoy a mince pie with us. We will also appreciate your ideas for future talks, so please give some thought to this before you come and don’t be shy to tell us what you would like to hear." www.esfh.org.uk

    11/20/2018 03:06:57
    1. [ENG-ROOTS] The Boat People of the Leeds-Liverpool Canal
    2. Lynne
    3. On Tues 20th November the Leigh & District Family History Society will be welcoming Bill Huyton to talk about the Boat People of Leeds-Liverpool Canal. Help desk open from 7pm, speaker at 7.30pm followed by refreshments. All welcome for the last meeting of 2018. Meetings are held in the Derby Room at Leigh Library. Turnpike Centre Civic Square Market Street Leigh WN7 1EB https://www.lswlfhs.org.uk/Groups/leigh-group/index.php

    11/17/2018 11:02:01
    1. [ENG-ROOTS] Lest We Forget
    2. Lynne
    3. As Remembrance Day approaches, let us remember those we lost as well as those that fought and lived. Please tell us about the ancestors you would like remembered as we mark 100 years since the end of the First World War on Remembrance Sunday. My grateful thanks to all who served. Lynne

    11/09/2018 10:41:24
    1. [ENG-ROOTS] Chorlton Book Festival, 16-24 November 2018
    2. Lynne
    3. As part of the Book Festival, there will be a Chorlton Local History Walk. Sunday 18 November, 2 - 4pm. See <https://tinyurl.com/ya4awqy8> for details about the walk. Details about the Festival can be found by following the links on <https://www.chorltonbookfestival.co.uk/> Lynne

    11/05/2018 04:11:24
    1. [ENG-ROOTS] Finding the Stories of the Women in Your Family Tree
    2. Lynne
    3. Ancestry has a free tip sheet in PDF form. The slant and illustrations are from a US perspective, but the ideas work on either side of the Atlantic. See https://ancstry.me/2zhouwd to download the document. Do you have some tips to share with us? There are a lot of subscribers to this list with varying degrees of expertise. As well as your queries, please post research advice, event information, and other family history information. Most of us are eager learn and you can help keep the list alive by posting. Lynne list admin.

    11/01/2018 03:00:10
    1. [ENG-ROOTS] Hampshire Genealogical Society
    2. Lynne
    3. HGS Hampshire Genealogical Society Talk: WOUNDED - THE LONG JOURNEY HOME FROM THE GREAT WAR Location: THE ROMSEY SCHOOL, GREATBRIDGE ROAD, ROMSEY, HAMPSHIRE SO51 8ZB Date: FRIDAY 2 NOVEMBER 2018 Time: 7.00 p.m. start Speaker: Dr. Emily Mayhew, Imperial College London, presents “Wounded – The Long Journey Home from the Great War” Tickets £5 from Romsey Visitors Centre or available at the door on the day https://www.hgs-familyhistory.com/ Know of events relevant to this list or of general interest to family historians? Please post!

    10/28/2018 11:41:07