Sorry I will try to remember to post the message under a new heading. I have tried looking for her name under Riley, Reilly, Foster and Reilley. Also Reilly-Foster. The family are known for changing their names - not a very helpful situation for Family Researchers. Will try looking again. Maybe she was born earlier than she said on her Marriage Certificate - ladies do that. Thanks again for the advice sorry if I caused any inconvenience. joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 3:33 PM Subject: [YORKSHIRE] Karen Reilly-Foster > From: "joyce.riddick" <joyce.riddick@btinternet.com> > >> I have just joined the group. Most of my ancestors are from >> Lancashire but I have now started on a new member of the family - by >> marriage and I am looking for the birth certificate of Karen >> Reilly-Foster. Her marriage certificate in 1942 states she was 28 >> years old in 1942 and the marriage took place in York. I cannot find >> her birth certificate. Has anyone any suggestions please as to where >> I can look. Have tried findmypast and the Yorkshire BMD. Help >> required >> >> joyce Stubbs >> North Wales > > Welcome to the list but may I respectfully be permitted to offer a short > lesson in how to post a query? > > 1) it is unnecessarily complicating things to post your query by replying > to > another topic altogether which has absolutely nothing to do with yours! > Methodist churches in Leeds had no relevance whatsoever to your > question. You should give the post an entirely new header, which is what > I have done. > > 2) Always give as much information as possible when asking for help. > For instance, is Reilly-Foster the name she married into or her maiden > name? When checking double-barrelled surnames in indexes you should > always check very carefully in BOTH names. There is a possibility that > the first part of the name was recorded as a middle name. Did you do > this? > > 3) Have you considered the possibility she may not have been born in > England and Wales? > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies > Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: "joyce.riddick" <joyce.riddick@btinternet.com> > I have tried looking for her name under Riley, Reilly, Foster and > Reilley. Also Reilly-Foster. The family are known for changing their > names - not a very helpful situation for Family Researchers. > > Will try looking again. Maybe she was born earlier than she said on > her Marriage Certificate - ladies do that. > > Thanks again for the advice sorry if I caused any inconvenience.> FreeBMD appears to have only one possible entry in "All Types" and "All Districts", which is the birth of a JAMES REILLY FOSTER (Reilly being a middle name and not hyphenated) at Barton-upon-Irwell in the June quarter of 1882, vol 8c page 683. He would seem to have been born about the right time to have possibly been her father, but there is no marriage for him at FreeBMD (not in that name, anyway, though there are umpteen marriages for James Fosters). Barton-upon-Irwell is a Manchester registration district, BTW. What is the father's name on her marriage certificate and what was his occupation? This normally gives a clue to the family's social standing. If he was her father, perhaps she decided to make her name double- barrelled when she met her husband-to-be. People did that, usually out of snobbery or because they liked the sound of a double-barrelled surname! In my experience, the only genuine double-barrelled surnames have usually arisen as a result of a clause in a will to inherit a title or property or where two wealthy families linked by marriage have decided to use both names. Double-barrelled surnames are on the whole a 20th century middle class phenomenon! -- Roy Stockdill Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

From: "joyce.riddick" <joyce.riddick@btinternet.com> > I have tried looking for her name under Riley, Reilly, Foster and > Reilley. Also Reilly-Foster. The family are known for changing their > names - not a very helpful situation for Family Researchers. > > Will try looking again. Maybe she was born earlier than she said on > her Marriage Certificate - ladies do that.> Further to my message about the birth entry for James Reilly Foster at Barton-upon-Irwell, the 1901 census shows three James R Fosters of the right age but only one in Lancashire - a James R Foster, articled law clerk, at Stretford, father Thomas Foster, mother Emma, both aged 40. I then find that FreeBMD has the possible marriage ("possible" because, of course, there are two other names on the page) of Thomas FOSTER and Emma REILLY in the March quarter of 1882 at Barton-upon-Irwell, vol 8c page 672. Stretford is in the Barton-U-I registration district. Could I suggest this may be the family you seek? If Karen was given her mother's surname as a middle name and then decided to double-barrel it - BINGO. But I only say "may" and my speculation will be worthless if you tell us her father wasn't James! -- Roy Stockdill Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi Roy I also found the family on the 1901 census and tried to find Thomas married to Emma and presumed it was Reilly. You say you found it on Free BMD. I will look again. That is surely the family. Thanks again I have spent ages looking for one Reilly Foster. Thanks again. Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Karen Reilly-Foster > From: "joyce.riddick" <joyce.riddick@btinternet.com> > >> I have tried looking for her name under Riley, Reilly, Foster and >> Reilley. Also Reilly-Foster. The family are known for changing their >> names - not a very helpful situation for Family Researchers. >> >> Will try looking again. Maybe she was born earlier than she said on >> her Marriage Certificate - ladies do that.> > > Further to my message about the birth entry for James Reilly Foster at > Barton-upon-Irwell, the 1901 census shows three James R Fosters of the > right age but only one in Lancashire - a James R Foster, articled law > clerk, at Stretford, father Thomas Foster, mother Emma, both aged 40. > > I then find that FreeBMD has the possible marriage ("possible" because, > of course, there are two other names on the page) of Thomas FOSTER > and Emma REILLY in the March quarter of 1882 at Barton-upon-Irwell, > vol 8c page 672. Stretford is in the Barton-U-I registration district. > > Could I suggest this may be the family you seek? If Karen was given her > mother's surname as a middle name and then decided to double-barrel it > - BINGO. But I only say "may" and my speculation will be worthless if you > tell us her father wasn't James! > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies > Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: "joyce.riddick" <joyce.riddick@btinternet.com> > Hi Roy > > I also found the family on the 1901 census and tried to find Thomas > married to Emma and presumed it was Reilly. You say you found it on > Free BMD. I will look again. That is surely the family. > > Thanks again I have spent ages looking for one Reilly Foster. Thanks > again. I gave you the precise reference for the marriage, so there shouldn't be a problem. I've now looked at the 1891 census at findmypast and I would say beyond doubt it is them. They were living at Urmston Lane, Stretford and the family comprised..... Thomas FOSTER, head, 30, salesman Emma FOSTER, wife, 30 James R FOSTER, son, 9 George S FOSTER, son, 7 Hannah W FOSTER, dau, 3 All were born at Stretford I would say that either Karen or her father, James, were responsible for creating the double-barrelled name! As I said before, lots of people did it, usually out of nothing more than a bit of snobbery! -- Roy Stockdill Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Dear Joyce Adding to roys comments, Karen could have been a member of one of the many armed forces stationed in England during the war and the name Reilly also suggest she could be from Ireland and posted in England. Ray >-- Original Message -- >From: "joyce.riddick" <joyce.riddick@btinternet.com> >To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> >Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 15:40:16 +0100 >Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Karen Reilly-Foster >Reply-To: eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com > > >Sorry I will try to remember to post the message under a new heading. > >I have tried looking for her name under Riley, Reilly, Foster and Reilley. > >Also Reilly-Foster. The family are known for changing their names - not >a >very helpful situation for Family Researchers. > >Will try looking again. Maybe she was born earlier than she said on her > >Marriage Certificate - ladies do that. > >Thanks again for the advice sorry if I caused any inconvenience. > >joyce >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> >To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 3:33 PM >Subject: [YORKSHIRE] Karen Reilly-Foster > > >> From: "joyce.riddick" <joyce.riddick@btinternet.com> >> >>> I have just joined the group. Most of my ancestors are from >>> Lancashire but I have now started on a new member of the family - by >>> marriage and I am looking for the birth certificate of Karen >>> Reilly-Foster. Her marriage certificate in 1942 states she was 28 >>> years old in 1942 and the marriage took place in York. I cannot find >>> her birth certificate. Has anyone any suggestions please as to where >>> I can look. Have tried findmypast and the Yorkshire BMD. Help >>> required >>> >>> joyce Stubbs >>> North Wales >> >> Welcome to the list but may I respectfully be permitted to offer a short >> lesson in how to post a query? >> >> 1) it is unnecessarily complicating things to post your query by replying > >> to >> another topic altogether which has absolutely nothing to do with yours! >> Methodist churches in Leeds had no relevance whatsoever to your >> question. You should give the post an entirely new header, which is what >> I have done. >> >> 2) Always give as much information as possible when asking for help. >> For instance, is Reilly-Foster the name she married into or her maiden >> name? When checking double-barrelled surnames in indexes you should >> always check very carefully in BOTH names. There is a possibility that >> the first part of the name was recorded as a middle name. Did you do >> this? >> >> 3) Have you considered the possibility she may not have been born in >> England and Wales? >> >> -- >> Roy Stockdill >> Editor, Journal of One-Name Studies >> Guild of One-Name Studies website: www.one-name.org >> Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: >> www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html >> >> "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, >> and that is not being talked about." >> OSCAR WILDE >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >of the message