Hi Rene, I did and couldn't see them...... I have the CD's & Ancestry. 1841 census index on our site. So you can check yourself.... Re birth registration....... Bear in mind though civil registration started in July 1837 it did NOT become mandatory to register them until 1875. We have just had a thread on "Sheffield Indexers" Forum about the GRO indexes which are being re indexed by SDFHS who have found that if they looked at the number of baptisms for the Parish Church and the few other churches there could be as much as a 40% difference with births to baptisms. It was noted that as folks had always used the baptism as a form of registration they just carried on in the old way. Knowing Yorkshire folks (which includes me) they wouldn't want to pay out for the baptisms and the registration. (Or did they only pay if late?) over the 42 days. We have the first 16years of the New Registers from St Marie's RC Church on line that you could search as well. All free by the way. LOL. Elaine Pickard Sheffield Indexers Site Admin. www.SheffieldIndexers.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rene Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: September 01, 2009 8:03 PM Subject: [YORKSHIRE] James & Margaret DONOVAN...CENSUS 1841 & 1851 Is there any kind person on the list with access to the 1841 and 1851 list, who could look at the census for Sheffield to see whether there is a James b. c. 1810 & Margaret (nee Hagen)b. 1819) DONOVAN (both born in Ireland) registered. They are my gr. grandparents. Thank you for any help. Sincerely, Rene?USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rene Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: August 31, 2009 2:59 PM Subject: [YORKSHIRE] Thomas Donovan b. Sheffield, 1853 Is anyone on the list researching Thomas Donovan b. 1853 to James and Margaret (nee Hagen) Donovan (both b. Ireland) Thomas' siblings were John b. 1856 in Hartlepool, DUrham Catherine b. 1859 also Hartlepool. In 1861, they were on the Scottish census living in Castleton. Then, they moved to Hartlepool and then to Wigton, Cumbria, where my grandmother, Ann, (Hannah) Donovan was b. in High Ireby in 1862. James and Margaret both died and are buried in Wigton, Cumbria. My grandmother was known as Annie Mary Elizabeth Donovan and married Thomas Grisdale of Penrith in 1885. If anyone is researching any of the Donovan's listed, would love to hear from them. Sincerely Rene Smith/USA Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the ENG-YORKSHIRE list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the ENG-YORKSHIRE mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of ENG-YORKSHIRE Digest, Vol 4, Issue 251 ********************************************* Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message