In a message dated 23/08/2009 00:11:49 GMT Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I know they can by a bit untrust worthy, but it is the only lead i have. i haven't the actual certifacte but i have found the record of there marriage on ancestry.co.uk it shows her name on the record as Sarah Wilson and the date as Jul 1924 ( Sorry got it wrong first time) And his name Frank Harper. i haven't been able to locate any information relating to Annie Harpers Birth or anything else Hi If you could send for the marriage certificate it would give you the bride's father's name and then you could probably find them in the census. If you are looking for the birth of Annie Harper then you will have no luck. A baby is given the name of its mother at the time of its birth, so you should be looking for Annie [Anne] Wilson. If she became Annie Harper later that is because she was taken in by her mother's new husband. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com [email protected] www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html