Hi Greg, If you use the IGI Family Search and Enter Clatworthy you will see the number there are in the South of England Devon & Cornwall in particular which may link one of the southern Pickards in Devon to your Clatworthy. Best I can come up with....... Elaine in Ottawa. -----Original Message----- From: Greg Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:42 PM To: eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Frederick PICKARD Being a PICKARD researcher do you recognise the name CLATWORTHY. I have a William Clatworthy PICKARD getting maried in Brisbane to a Emily Jane DENMAN in 1882 and his parents were John Clatworthy PICKARD and Jessie McGROTHER. I note that in 1918 here, a John Clatworthy PICKARD died and his parents were Thomas PICKARD and Janet CLATWORTHY. I would be interested in hearing anything about these people, Greg On 16/11/2010 6:15 AM, Elaine Pickard wrote: > Yes we had also noted the Devon pocket of Pickard's but as we were > talking > about Yorkshire I thought I had better not cloud the issue. > > The answer we feel that would be the most likely is that they were > fishermen > or sailors and stayed in Devon with a lovely lass for company therefore > producing many more "Pickard's. > > > Elaine in Ottawa > where there are about eight Pickard's and 500+ Picard's. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roy Stockdill > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 1:36 PM > To: eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Frederick PICKARD > > On 15 Nov 2010 at 11:15, Elaine Pickard wrote: > >> I am sure I wont be able to help you but being a "Pickard" researcher >> myself I know how hard it is to pinpoint them. >> >> Our William Pickard we can trace back to Leeds/Bradford area in 1811 a >> Wool Comber. >> >> When we checked the geographical area the majority of Pickard's came >> from the West Riding but more so the northern part around Bradford. >> >> My husband whose line this is has a theory that the "Pickard's" came >> over with William the Conqueror or at the later date when the >> Cistercian Monasteries were founded as shepherds etc looking after >> the sheep that belonged to the Abbey's i.e. Fountains, Kirkstall, >> Riveaulex to give you a few.> > Simply on the law of averages, there is a good likelihood that Frederick > Pickard did > come from the West Riding of Yorkshire since that has always been by far > the > most > populous of the Ridings and home of virtually all the major towns and > cities, due to > industry and the fact that the North and East Ridings are virtually all > rural. > > Surname Atlas shows that in the 1881 census by far the greatest number of > entries for > Pickard were in the West Riding, especially in Leeds and Bradford. > Somewhat > curiously, however, the county with the next largest concentration was > Devon - a long > way from Yorkshire - with the name being particularly pronounced around > the > town of > Bideford. > > I wonder what your husband's explanation for this might be? > > I wish I had a fiver for every time I've heard the suggestion that > such-and-such a > surname "came over with the William the Conqueror"! However, I wouldn't > dismiss it > entirely since Reaney& Wilson suggest that Pickard derives from "A man > from > Picardy". Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any example of a > reference > before > 1169, over a century after the Conqueror came here. > > Of course, there were French people who came to England long after the > Conquest > and some of them were indeed monks. > > -- > Roy Stockdill > Genealogical researcher, writer& lecturer > Newbies' Guide to Genealogy& Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html > > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about." > OSCAR WILDE > > > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.869 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3258 - Release Date: 11/15/10 > 02:34:00 > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Please visit my BLOG *http://davisgenealogyproject.blogspot.com* Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. 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