Hi thanks Nivard I agree with what you say, I was interested to hear if people thought the same as me - I dont think its likely that he would have bothered with deed poll either. As for the marriage certificate, I dont know, I've just started researching this family online tonight and its for someone else as a favour, but its an interesting point, although the Thomas on the census with Robert and with King have the same occupation anyway. I think since there is a birth but no suitable marriage or death for King Harrison that I will take him to be Robert. thanks again Heather. > From: ovington1@sky.com > To: eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 19:15:02 +0100 > Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Christian Name Change? > > Hi Heather > > There would be nothing to stop him using Robert as a forename (you can > perhaps understand him not wanting to use King <g>) > > Although there were change of name by deed poll, it is highly unlikely the > average person would bother with the expense of it > > It has always been the case that as long as you are not doing it to defraud > or evade the law, you can call yourself whatever you want to > > If he gave Robert as his name, that is what would be recorded, no proof was > asked for until quite recent > > On the marriage certificate, does the fathers name and occupation match that > you know for King ? > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > Hi everyone > > > > I am researching a family called Harrison, the mother Elizabeth is from > > Kirkstall and the father Thomas is from Masham. It's their son Robert > > Harrison that is the cause of my query. > > > > Robert was born c1869 in Burley, Leeds. I believe I have found the family > > in Middlesbrough in 1891 (Burley mistranscribed as Baster). > > > > On trying to trace this family back, Robert isnt there although his > > siblings are the same. In Roberts place however, born the same year there > > is a boy named King Harrison. > > > > I have found a birth in the index of King Harrison of the right year > > (1869) in the district of Kirkstall - but no birth for Robert Harrison > > sticks out (there is one in 1870 but there is another Robert Harrison born > > Leeds at that time). > > > > Is it likely that Robert changed his name from King to Robert? (on the > > first census that has him as Robert he is 22). If so, is there likely to > > be any documentation of this? He married as Robert by the way. > > > > thanks for any help and opinions. > > > > Heather > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Heather: You don't say where you found the birth registration info. I am assuming FreeBMD. You should cross reference with Yorkshire BMD if you haven't already. It will specify the village in each case but not the quarter as FreeBMD does. Confirming the village may add further confidence in your decision. Mel Smith Whitby, Ontario, Canada -----Original Message----- From: eng-yorkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-yorkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of h dean Sent: October 22, 2010 2:53 PM To: eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Christian Name Change? Hi thanks Nivard I agree with what you say, I was interested to hear if people thought the same as me - I dont think its likely that he would have bothered with deed poll either. As for the marriage certificate, I dont know, I've just started researching this family online tonight and its for someone else as a favour, but its an interesting point, although the Thomas on the census with Robert and with King have the same occupation anyway. I think since there is a birth but no suitable marriage or death for King Harrison that I will take him to be Robert. thanks again Heather. > From: ovington1@sky.com > To: eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 19:15:02 +0100 > Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Christian Name Change? > > Hi Heather > > There would be nothing to stop him using Robert as a forename (you can > perhaps understand him not wanting to use King <g>) > > Although there were change of name by deed poll, it is highly unlikely the > average person would bother with the expense of it > > It has always been the case that as long as you are not doing it to defraud > or evade the law, you can call yourself whatever you want to > > If he gave Robert as his name, that is what would be recorded, no proof was > asked for until quite recent > > On the marriage certificate, does the fathers name and occupation match that > you know for King ? > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > Hi everyone > > > > I am researching a family called Harrison, the mother Elizabeth is from > > Kirkstall and the father Thomas is from Masham. It's their son Robert > > Harrison that is the cause of my query. > > > > Robert was born c1869 in Burley, Leeds. I believe I have found the family > > in Middlesbrough in 1891 (Burley mistranscribed as Baster). > > > > On trying to trace this family back, Robert isnt there although his > > siblings are the same. In Roberts place however, born the same year there > > is a boy named King Harrison. > > > > I have found a birth in the index of King Harrison of the right year > > (1869) in the district of Kirkstall - but no birth for Robert Harrison > > sticks out (there is one in 1870 but there is another Robert Harrison born > > Leeds at that time). > > > > Is it likely that Robert changed his name from King to Robert? (on the > > first census that has him as Robert he is 22). If so, is there likely to > > be any documentation of this? He married as Robert by the way. > > > > thanks for any help and opinions. > > > > Heather > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mel, thanks for the reply. I found the birth index on FreeBMD yes. Actually the Robert from 1891 and King from the earlier censuses were both marked as being born the same place anyway so it wouldnt matter - but I did look up Yorkshire BMD as you suggested but couldnt see where it specified a village, just reg district of Kirkstall as on FreeBMD - am I doing something wrong? Heather > From: melvynsmith@gmail.com > To: eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 20:26:23 -0400 > Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Christian Name Change? > > Hi Heather: > > You don't say where you found the birth registration info. I am assuming > FreeBMD. You should cross reference with Yorkshire BMD if you haven't > already. > It will specify the village in each case but not the quarter as FreeBMD > does. > Confirming the village may add further confidence in your decision. > > Mel Smith > Whitby, Ontario, Canada > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-yorkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-yorkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of h dean > Sent: October 22, 2010 2:53 PM > To: eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Christian Name Change? > > > Hi thanks Nivard I agree with what you say, I was interested to hear if > people thought the same as me - I dont think its likely that he would have > bothered with deed poll either. > > As for the marriage certificate, I dont know, I've just started researching > this family online tonight and its for someone else as a favour, but its an > interesting point, although the Thomas on the census with Robert and with > King have the same occupation anyway. > > I think since there is a birth but no suitable marriage or death for King > Harrison that I will take him to be Robert. > > thanks again > > Heather. > > > From: ovington1@sky.com > > To: eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com > > Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 19:15:02 +0100 > > Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Christian Name Change? > > > > Hi Heather > > > > There would be nothing to stop him using Robert as a forename (you can > > perhaps understand him not wanting to use King <g>) > > > > Although there were change of name by deed poll, it is highly unlikely the > > > average person would bother with the expense of it > > > > It has always been the case that as long as you are not doing it to > defraud > > or evade the law, you can call yourself whatever you want to > > > > If he gave Robert as his name, that is what would be recorded, no proof > was > > asked for until quite recent > > > > On the marriage certificate, does the fathers name and occupation match > that > > you know for King ? > > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone > > > > > > I am researching a family called Harrison, the mother Elizabeth is from > > > Kirkstall and the father Thomas is from Masham. It's their son Robert > > > Harrison that is the cause of my query. > > > > > > Robert was born c1869 in Burley, Leeds. I believe I have found the > family > > > in Middlesbrough in 1891 (Burley mistranscribed as Baster). > > > > > > On trying to trace this family back, Robert isnt there although his > > > siblings are the same. In Roberts place however, born the same year > there > > > is a boy named King Harrison. > > > > > > I have found a birth in the index of King Harrison of the right year > > > (1869) in the district of Kirkstall - but no birth for Robert Harrison > > > sticks out (there is one in 1870 but there is another Robert Harrison > born > > > Leeds at that time). > > > > > > Is it likely that Robert changed his name from King to Robert? (on the > > > first census that has him as Robert he is 22). If so, is there likely to > > > > be any documentation of this? He married as Robert by the way. > > > > > > thanks for any help and opinions. > > > > > > Heather > > > > > > > > > > Some useful websites - > > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Some useful websites - > FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ > FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ > > Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message