This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rshaw20 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15659.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Bryan Thanks for the assistance. Thomas Craven Lister has been counted out of possibilities as he was married to another lady and had several children by her, his records in the census also show a different occupation. The other Thomas is a possiblity. There is a 1871 census entry for a Thomas G Lister b.abt 1855 leeds (the g is not that clear on the original record though), whose father was John Lister (transcribed as Nister) a bricklayer (RG10; Piece: 4536; Folio: 32; Page: 25). However there is also a Thomas G Lister (b. abt 1854) on the 1881 census married to Elizabeth, he is recorded as been born in Shipley YKS and there is a birth registration for Thomas Glover Lister in Shipley in 1854, so this is unlikely to be my ancestor either. The mystery remains! I have found Thomas, Gertrude and the 2 children on the 1891 census in Leeds. However I have not found either Thomas or Gertude on the 1881, even under alternative spellings of the surname, which is puzzling. I am not putting too much emphasis on his fathers name on the marriage certificate as in some cases this was falsified to cover illegitmacy (my grandfather did this on his marriage certificate in 1939 to cover his illegitimacy, his mother never married!). I have also found that on my G Grandmothers (Ethel) birth certificate (1887) Thomas was still a jewellers assistant and was living at 13 Kendall Terrace, Leeds, also the birthplace of Ethel. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.