Dear listers, I am sorry to say that I have had a couple of computer crashes, fortunately correctable, but in the meantime I cannot complete the latest updating of the YKS Surnames List database. I have taken note of the requests for adding surnames, correcting entries and emails and I have made the necessary changes to the database. The only thing left for me to do is to upload the revised database to the net, which I will do as soon as I have my desktop computer back and everything is working again properly. In the meantime, you can still consult the YKS database without problem, please keep your requests coming and do bear with me! Regards, Magdalena -- MAGDALENA GORRELL GUIMARAENS Member of Council for the Portugal Region AIIC - International Association of Conference Interpreters m.gorrell@aiic.net http://www.mgorrell.eu Membro da Direcção do SNATTI Sindicato Nacional da Actividade Turística Tradutores e Intérpretes http://www.snatti.org

Hello all Is anyone out there researching the NEWSOME and/or BEALE families? I am trying to work back from a William Newsome Beale HALL, born 1839 in London, son of Thomas Thomson Hall and Catherine (nee Mills). Listed in the 1841,51,61,71 & 81 census is William Newsome Beale, farmer/landowner at Doncaster - though he was born 1808 at Misson, Notts. I would particularly like to find out when and how the Newsomes and Beales became connected - perhaps through marriage in the 1700's - and if and how they are linked to my W N B Hall. I have been looking into this without success for about 2 years, so any scrap of info would be appreciated. Thank you and best wishes Mary

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MarkNelsonLeeds Surnames: McGibbon Leeson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15656.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Debbie, Is there any chance that Mary could have married before ? There are a number of Mcgibbon births in Leeds in the late 60's but the mothers maiden name is Leeson. Click below to join Quidco, and earn 25% back on Ancestry subscription and money back from online shopping ... http://www.quidco.com/user/690725/20347 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Debbie, Is there any chance that Mary could have married before ? There are a number of Mcgibbon births in Leeds in the late 60's but the mothers maiden name is Leeson. Regards Mark Click below to join Quidco, and earn 25% back on Ancestry subscription and money back from online shopping ... http://www.quidco.com/user/690725/20347 ======================================== Message Received: Oct 04 2010, 07:31 PM From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" To: ENG-YORKSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: [YORKSHIRE] children of o'sullivan & mcgibbon This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dhowarth21 Surnames: o'sullivan mcgibbon Classification: birth Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15656/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hello i am looking for the children of mary e o'sullivan & thomas mcgibbon married in leeds 1966 thomas was born in belfast in 1943 and died in 1987 in burnley lancashire. can't seem to find anything else please can you help thankyou debbie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dhowarth21 Surnames: o'sullivan mcgibbon Classification: birth Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15656/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hello i am looking for the children of mary e o'sullivan & thomas mcgibbon married in leeds 1966 thomas was born in belfast in 1943 and died in 1987 in burnley lancashire. can't seem to find anything else please can you help thankyou debbie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: yvonnewalkley Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15655.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Bryan, thanks for that I knew it was going to be foot work from now on but its good to know what to look for, thanks Yvonne. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BryanHoggarth Surnames: Classification: birth Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15655.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yvonne If the baptism records do not help then see if there may be something in the Parish Accounts; commonly known as Bastardy Records. Illegitimate children were liable to become a burden on the local parishoners so the Church Wardens etc would try to identify the Father and either get him to make a one off payment or something like 6d a week until the child was of working age (like 14). You will need to go to the local Record Centre to look up the relevant records; which will probably be on microfilm. More chance for the earlier dates than later in the 1800s. Bryan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: yvonnewalkley Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15655.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi thanks for replying this gives me hope in what is becoming a very interest Project{skeletons in the closet]deep family mystery. Regards Yvonne. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: yvonnewalkley Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15655.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi thanks for info as my family our local this will make it easy for me [I hope], it makes it hard for me as my Grandfather Grt Grandma and Grt Grt Grandma have no Husbands or in the case of my Grandfather no father named,no one in the family as any info as they where never allowed to talk about it, talk about skeletons in the closet As the years our 1838 1863 1892 this gives me hope that with a wing and a prayer I might get some results. Regards Yvonne. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

On 4 Oct 2010 at 10:16, Cathy Trewhitt wrote: >   >  If you don't find a name on the baptism, it could be worth >  looking at church meetings, this was were I found my >  missing father. >   >   Also court records can some times throw up something. > Women who gave birth to an illegitimate child quite often offer a clue to the father if they give the child an unusual or uncommon middle forename - especially if it happens to be a surname. This was their way of telling the world who the errant father was! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

   If you don't find a name on the baptism, it could be worth  looking at church meetings, this was were I found my  missing father.     Also court records can some times throw up something.    Cathy Girl from the most likley place in England --- On Sun, 3/10/10, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Subject: [YORKSHIRE] missing fathers To: ENG-YORKSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, 3 October, 2010, 23:40 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: yvonnewalkley Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15655/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi,I wonder if anyone can confirm that if you have no father on a birth cert that you can sometime get it from church records if the child as been christened? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. Some useful websites - FREECEN - http://www.freecen.org.uk/ FREEBMD - http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ FREEREG - http://www.freereg.org.uk/ Want to know where a place in Yorkshire is - Try Genuki http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: twafsshopfitters Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/211.1039.3858.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Thomas, My name is Tony Lookig for a Robert Beaumont, dont know if your related or you know of him chances are you dont, He lived and worked in and around Yeadon/Guiseley yorkshire area,worked at shires bathrooms before it closed, he was dating an Italian lady when she was pregnant with me, he left, Iam 46 now, born in 1964, moved to Aus 11 years ago, would love to find him or any relitaves I may have, You can contact me on email twafsshopfitters@hotmail.com Would love your help or anyone who could help me to find him, Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: twafsshopfitters Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/211.1234/mb.ashx Message Board Post: looking for a robert beaumont, Iam his son,he worked and lived in yeadon/guiseley yorkshire ,he worked in shires bathroom toilet factory, before it closed, he met an Italian lady called Gustina my mother, who resided in Ilkily yorkshire with some other Italian freinds,he was dating her for a short while, then had me and left,I was born in 1964 Iam 46, apparently Iam his double so I have been told, would love to know if anyone knows of him or how I might be able to contact him?? my email address is: twafsshopfitters@hotmail.com my name is Tony, big thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: yvonnewalkley Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15654.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi thanks for info not come across any of this before so another avenue to go down thanks a lot.Yvonne. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eworld_2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15655.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If you're lucky yes. Certainly some of the earlier records from the 1800s have indications of who the father was so if you can find a baptism go and look at the original record. The reason is that sometimes the father's name is there and crossed out. My guess is so that if asked for a copy the parson would not include the detail but it would be there to remind him. You don't say what date you're looking at so the above may not help but it's probably worth a try. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ovington1_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15655.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi ???? It is always worth tracking down any baptism as there is a chance (albeit slim) that a father is mentioned NJO Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: yvonnewalkley Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15655/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi,I wonder if anyone can confirm that if you have no father on a birth cert that you can sometime get it from church records if the child as been christened? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

As the post that you replied to was a gatewayed one, your reply will not be seen by them if they don't also subscribe to the list (most don't) You need to click the blue link which takes you to the board where it was posted originally, reply there and in turn your reply will be gatewayed back to the list so you only need post once Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Kate > > This is AWESOME news. Thank you thank you for taking the time to do this > for me. I truly appreciate it as I'm sure everyone on list appreciates > your efforts. > > and again > > Kate A BIG THANK YOU for the second email too too. I'm hoping to come > over next spring to do some research so need all the guidance I can get to > make sure I'm not wasting time. We just got back from Ireland on Thursday > and am very happy with my findings there. Hope we can meet when I'm over > there and also maybe I can do some research for others while there too. > Talk soon and again thank you so much, Susan > > When I replied to your emails they got bounced back to me so hopefully > this goes through. Well after 3 tries I finally figured out what I did > wrong.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: yvonnewalkley Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15654.2.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi again already got that info but unable to find marr cert for John Smith and Anne Mauley? but found One for Honora Manley and John Smith so this makes me think that Maybe he was not married to Anne but had Children by her,wont give up though I will keep on looking and maybe I will get a break soon so thanks for your help.Yvonne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: velpremus Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/15654.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: 1911 Census: RG14PN26738 RG78PN1540 RD498 SD2 ED19 SN181 58 King Charles St Bradford MANLEY, Martin Head Married M 27 1884 Carter Yorks Bradford MANLEY, Annie Wife Married 2 years F 25 1886 Millhand Twister Worsted Yorks Bradford SMITH, Nora Stepsister F 11 1900 School Yorks Bradford 1900 Census: RG13 Piece:4148 Folio:73 Page:20 18, Heap Street, Bradford. SMITH, John W Head Married M 54 1847 General Laborer Bradford SMITH, Ann Wife Married F 51 1850 Ireland SMITH, Nora Daughter F 1 1900 Bradford SMITH, Bella Daughter F 12 1889 Bradford SMITH, John W Son M 8 1893 Bradford Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.