-or as we in Yorkshire might say "summat fer nowt" !! An article in today's 'Yorkshire Post' states that North Yorkshire County Council's library service has signed up with Ancestry.com to give library users the opportunity to research their family history on 400 computers in the county's libraries. All Ancestry online data will be accessible. This free service means users do not have to pay individual subscription fees. Enjoy. Michele

Terri Wright wrote: > Could some nice person check the 1921 Census for a Woods family. I am > trying to find Michael, John, Stephen, Owen with their parents Patrick and > Mary Ann. I have found births in Guisboro with the mother being Kelly, this > could be them. The last address I had for them was in Carlinow, Cleveland, > England, but this is pretty close. If they are not the ones in Guisboro > could a check please be made in Carlinow.? First of all the most recent census available is the 1901 which is available on a number of different sites. Secondly, the 1921 census is subject to a 100 year closure and it would take primary legislation to get it released before the first working day after 1 January 2022. The government has already made it clear that this is not going to happen. The only way you are going to find out if Mary Ann's surname was KELLY is to get one of the birth certificates. If Guisboro is the place given in the GRO indices, then that is the Registration District which may or may not be the actual place of birth. I think you would probably benefit from reading a few books on the basics of genealogy and family history or a guide to the subject such as this one: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html Incidentally, there's no 1931 or 1941 censuses available either. The former was destroyed during the war and the latter didn't happen. -- Charani (UK)

From: "Terri Wright" <terspest@comcast.net> > Could some nice person check the 1921 Census for a Woods family. I am > trying to find Michael, John, Stephen, Owen with their parents Patrick > and Mary Ann. I have found births in Guisboro with the mother being > Kelly, this could be them. The last address I had for them was in > Carlinow, Cleveland, England, but this is pretty close. If they are > not the ones in Guisboro could a check please be made in Carlinow.?> If only the 1921 census was available to check! If only - but it isn't, as others have told you. I respectfully suggest you do a little homework first before asking such a question. There is lots of information about UK censuses and their availability that can be found with a spot of Googling. -- Roy Stockdill Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

There is a 100 year privacy restriction on UK census returns. The latest census available to the public is 1901 - usually pay per view or subscription based. If I understand correctly, if you have a specific address, you can obtain details from the 1911 census but it will cost £45! Alternatively, the 1911 to be generally available in 2009. Can I ask someone else to confirm that I've got this right? I wouldn't like to misinform any more that I would like to be misinformed myself. If your ancestors owned a business you might be fortunate and find them in a trade directory. Otherwise, again I'm sure others can make further suggestions/leads to follow. Good luck in the hunting Heather Q Terri Wright wrote: > Could some nice person check the 1921 Census for a Woods family. <snip> > Terri, USA

Hi Terri We can only get upto the 1901 census in England Gillian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terri Wright" <terspest@comcast.net> To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:50 PM Subject: [YORKSHIRE] Woods, > Could some nice person check the 1921 Census for a Woods family. I am > trying to find Michael, John, Stephen, Owen with their parents Patrick and > Mary Ann. I have found births in Guisboro with the mother being Kelly, > this > could be them. The last address I had for them was in Carlinow, Cleveland, > England, but this is pretty close. If they are not the ones in Guisboro > could a check please be made in Carlinow.? > > > > Terri, USA > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you all who replied, especially Sharon on Castle W. Terri

Could some nice person check the 1921 Census for a Woods family. I am trying to find Michael, John, Stephen, Owen with their parents Patrick and Mary Ann. I have found births in Guisboro with the mother being Kelly, this could be them. The last address I had for them was in Carlinow, Cleveland, England, but this is pretty close. If they are not the ones in Guisboro could a check please be made in Carlinow.? Terri, USA

Hi Wendy Thank you for the information, I will go on the site Regards Gillian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy" <wgb@iinet.net.au> To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] FROST FREDERICK > Hi Gillian, > > If you go to: > > http://maps.google.co.uk/ > > You can put in any place in the UK and find it.........you can also put > in another place and it will give you the distance from one place to > another. > > Cheers > Wendy > > gillian beavis wrote: > >>Hi Wendy >> >>I did wonder about Mary Jane Cawkwell, could you tell me whether Tunstall >>is >>anywhere near Fitling. Those on the 1901 census Edgar, Gertrude, Francis, >>and Allan is the children. I am still finding the parents of Frederick >>and >>Mary Jane. >> >>Thank you for your help >> >>Regards >> >>Gillian >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Wendy" <wgb@iinet.net.au> >>To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:24 AM >>Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] FROST FREDERICK >> >> >> >> >>>Hi Gillian >>> >>>Firstly.........did you check the freebmd site for a marriage? I did >>>and found this one: >>> >>>Frederick FROST married Mary Jane CAWKWELL - Mar Qtr 1894 - Hull - 9d - >>>364. >>> >>>Secondly......Frederick is aged 27 on the 1901 census, which makes his >>>approx year of birth 1874, not 1877, so this may be why you can not find >>>him in earlier census records. If you get the above marriage >>>certificate, it should say what his father's name is. >>> >>>Thirdly.......There is no Gertrude FROST listed on the 1901 Census with >>>Frederick, Mary J, Edgar, Francis and Allan.......but there is a Charles >>>CAWKWELL, Visitor, which tells me that he is actually related to Mary J, >>>and the above marriage is correct. >>> >>>If you still can not find them on earlier census records, repost and I >>>will try and help you find them. >>> >>>Cheers >>>Wendy >>> >>>gillian beavis wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hi >>>> >>>>I am looking for Frederick Frost born about 1877 Skirlaugh, Yorkshire I >>>>presume he married a Mary J born about 1865 Fitling, Yorkshire. >>>>Children >>>>Edgar Frost born about 1895 Sculcoates >>>>Gertrude Frost born about 1896 Hull >>>>Francis William Frost born about 1897 Sculcoates >>>>Allan Frost born about 1900 Hull. >>>> >>>>The problem I am having I have them on the 1901 census, but nothing >>>>else. >>>>I cannot find Frederick on the 1881, 1891, because I was hoping I would >>>>be >>>>able to find out his parents and for Mary J I haven't got anything for >>>>her >>>>on the 1871, 1881, 1891 either, but as I dont know her surname I have a >>>>problem. >>>> >>>>Could SKS please help me. >>>> >>>>I do apologise if this message comes up again, but when I sent this >>>>information before I sent it to >>>>Eng-Yorkshirerequest.com so I didn't know whether it had >>>>come through the mailing list. >>>> >>>>Thank you once again >>>> >>>>Gillian >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>the >>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could SKS help lookup 1871 Hannah Buttrick/Butterick born1864 Luddington Lincolnshire Regards Les

Hi Gillian, If you go to: http://maps.google.co.uk/ You can put in any place in the UK and find it.........you can also put in another place and it will give you the distance from one place to another. Cheers Wendy gillian beavis wrote: >Hi Wendy > >I did wonder about Mary Jane Cawkwell, could you tell me whether Tunstall is >anywhere near Fitling. Those on the 1901 census Edgar, Gertrude, Francis, >and Allan is the children. I am still finding the parents of Frederick and >Mary Jane. > >Thank you for your help > >Regards > >Gillian >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Wendy" <wgb@iinet.net.au> >To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:24 AM >Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] FROST FREDERICK > > > > >>Hi Gillian >> >>Firstly.........did you check the freebmd site for a marriage? I did >>and found this one: >> >>Frederick FROST married Mary Jane CAWKWELL - Mar Qtr 1894 - Hull - 9d - >>364. >> >>Secondly......Frederick is aged 27 on the 1901 census, which makes his >>approx year of birth 1874, not 1877, so this may be why you can not find >>him in earlier census records. If you get the above marriage >>certificate, it should say what his father's name is. >> >>Thirdly.......There is no Gertrude FROST listed on the 1901 Census with >>Frederick, Mary J, Edgar, Francis and Allan.......but there is a Charles >>CAWKWELL, Visitor, which tells me that he is actually related to Mary J, >>and the above marriage is correct. >> >>If you still can not find them on earlier census records, repost and I >>will try and help you find them. >> >>Cheers >>Wendy >> >>gillian beavis wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hi >>> >>>I am looking for Frederick Frost born about 1877 Skirlaugh, Yorkshire I >>>presume he married a Mary J born about 1865 Fitling, Yorkshire. >>>Children >>>Edgar Frost born about 1895 Sculcoates >>>Gertrude Frost born about 1896 Hull >>>Francis William Frost born about 1897 Sculcoates >>>Allan Frost born about 1900 Hull. >>> >>>The problem I am having I have them on the 1901 census, but nothing else. >>>I cannot find Frederick on the 1881, 1891, because I was hoping I would be >>>able to find out his parents and for Mary J I haven't got anything for her >>>on the 1871, 1881, 1891 either, but as I dont know her surname I have a >>>problem. >>> >>>Could SKS please help me. >>> >>>I do apologise if this message comes up again, but when I sent this >>>information before I sent it to >>>Eng-Yorkshirerequest.com so I didn't know whether it had >>>come through the mailing list. >>> >>>Thank you once again >>> >>>Gillian >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Castle W = Castle Ward a registration district of Northumberland For a list of towns it covers see here http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/castle%20ward.html Sharon Buchanan -----Original Message----- From: eng-yorkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-yorkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Terri Wright Sent: 15 May 2007 19:41 To: eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSHIRE] Castle W: I have a birth record that has showed up in 1912 for Peter Woods/Kelly the location is Castle W. can anyone give me a clue where this would be. The area is 10b, I thought this might be close to what I am looking for as Stockton is area 10a. There is a missing name as cousins believe there were 10 children and I only know of 9. The name Peter goes down through 2 generations in NZ. Terri USA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Image sent off list. Regards JUDY ELKINGTON [W.R.Yorkshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

From: Merrickk@aol.com > Hello, im new to the list im looking for information on the > following-- > > Jane Ann Bishop born 1859, parents were John Bishop & Ruth Whitaker ( > i think) they lived in N. Malton Yorks. I have been looking for othe > info on them but no luck if anyone is reaeaching them please get in > contact. thanks, Keith. > FreeBMD has the possible marriage of John Bishop and Ruth Whitaker at Leeds in the June quarter of 1849, vol 23 page 428. I say possible because there are five other names on the page. However, the 1861 census has a John and Ruth Bishop at Keighley, with five children including a Jane aged two. John was 35 and Ruth 32 and this was the only John Bishop in Yorkshire with a wife called Ruth that I could find. The obvious thing to do is apply for the 1849 marriage certificate from the GRO, making sure to specify you want checks in case they didn't marry each other, in which case you will get some of your money back. However, neither Leeds nor Keighley are anywhere near Malton. -- Roy Stockdill Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pouncergizmo Surnames: Zalac Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/5067.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi there, well this is a long reply!! I don't have much on the Zalac side. This is what I do have: Marku Zalac/t was born approx 1890 in Bakic, Austro-Hungarian Rule. He married Marica, she was born 1895. They had 7 kids: Slavko - 1916, Franja B:May 28, 1918, Milan 1922, Berta 1924, Yela 1925(twin), Ana 1925(twin), Toma 1920. Slavko had one son that I know of:Srecko. Franja has 2 sons, still living. Milan has 1 son: Matia Berta has 2 kids: Zdenka and Franea Yela married to: Mosica Gegea Toma had one daughter: Mira. Regards, Carol Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

In a message dated 14/05/2007 10:00:44 GMT Standard Time, acpittard@optusnet.com.au writes: I've come across these place names while transcribing. Could someone tell me the correct spelling please. Bastarn Hirlford Bitten Hi, This sites tells you where many places in Yorkshire are. You could try this site. _http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Where/_ (http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Where/) If you could have given a little more direction as to which town they are near or which Riding they are in it would have been helpful. It could just be that these names have changed over the years and become something else or part of a bigger area. Regards JUDY ELKINGTON [W.R.Yorkshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Hi Wendy I did wonder about Mary Jane Cawkwell, could you tell me whether Tunstall is anywhere near Fitling. Those on the 1901 census Edgar, Gertrude, Francis, and Allan is the children. I am still finding the parents of Frederick and Mary Jane. Thank you for your help Regards Gillian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy" <wgb@iinet.net.au> To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] FROST FREDERICK > Hi Gillian > > Firstly.........did you check the freebmd site for a marriage? I did > and found this one: > > Frederick FROST married Mary Jane CAWKWELL - Mar Qtr 1894 - Hull - 9d - > 364. > > Secondly......Frederick is aged 27 on the 1901 census, which makes his > approx year of birth 1874, not 1877, so this may be why you can not find > him in earlier census records. If you get the above marriage > certificate, it should say what his father's name is. > > Thirdly.......There is no Gertrude FROST listed on the 1901 Census with > Frederick, Mary J, Edgar, Francis and Allan.......but there is a Charles > CAWKWELL, Visitor, which tells me that he is actually related to Mary J, > and the above marriage is correct. > > If you still can not find them on earlier census records, repost and I > will try and help you find them. > > Cheers > Wendy > > gillian beavis wrote: > >>Hi >> >>I am looking for Frederick Frost born about 1877 Skirlaugh, Yorkshire I >>presume he married a Mary J born about 1865 Fitling, Yorkshire. >>Children >>Edgar Frost born about 1895 Sculcoates >>Gertrude Frost born about 1896 Hull >>Francis William Frost born about 1897 Sculcoates >>Allan Frost born about 1900 Hull. >> >>The problem I am having I have them on the 1901 census, but nothing else. >>I cannot find Frederick on the 1881, 1891, because I was hoping I would be >>able to find out his parents and for Mary J I haven't got anything for her >>on the 1871, 1881, 1891 either, but as I dont know her surname I have a >>problem. >> >>Could SKS please help me. >> >>I do apologise if this message comes up again, but when I sent this >>information before I sent it to >>Eng-Yorkshirerequest.com so I didn't know whether it had >>come through the mailing list. >> >>Thank you once again >> >>Gillian >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a birth record that has showed up in 1912 for Peter Woods/Kelly the location is Castle W. can anyone give me a clue where this would be. The area is 10b, I thought this might be close to what I am looking for as Stockton is area 10a. There is a missing name as cousins believe there were 10 children and I only know of 9. The name Peter goes down through 2 generations in NZ. Terri USA

Hello, im new to the list im looking for information on the following-- Jane Ann Bishop born 1859, parents were John Bishop & Ruth Whitaker ( i think) they lived in N. Malton Yorks. I have been looking for othe info on them but no luck if anyone is reaeaching them please get in contact. thanks, Keith.

From: "Terri Wright" <terspest@comcast.net> > Can someone advise me as to how one can obtain information on births > and deaths up to 1925, Ancestry says they have them free dbm's but I > find it stops at 1915. > > I am looking for Michael, Owen, Stephen and John Woods, born in the > Stockton on Tees area, between 1906 and 1925 also their mother who > died after the last child was born. her name was Mary Ann Woods, ne > Kelly. Their father was Patrick Joseph Woods, the last address I have > for them was 6 Front Row, Furness Cottage, Carlinhow, Cleveland, > England, that was in 1915.> www.findmypast.com, a British pay-per-view website, has all the GRO Indexes from 1837 to 2005. However, you have to buy units, minimum 5 pounds, or take out a package subscription. -- Roy Stockdill Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi Anne I wonder if you can help me please. I have been on all the free bmd's I cannot find my mother, father and other members of my family on the birth, nor can I find the marriages of my family apart from my brother who was married about 1992. My Mother and Father was married in 1946 I was married in 1975. Haven't they got them all on the bmd's. Thank you Gillian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Peat" <anne.peat@bigwindows.demon.co.uk> To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Terri Wright" <terspest@comcast.net> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Woods, Kelly > Hi Terri, > On the Ancestry page there are 3 sets of BMD's - there are partial > indexes up to about 1920 - roughly the same as you find on Free BMD. > Then there are the full indexes up to 1983. > These you can't search exactly by name. I just gives you the page on > which the name might appear and you have to look, just like you do if > you go to a Family HIstory Centre. > Then there are the full indexes for 1984-2005 which are again > searchable by exact name. > If you click on the right section, you should be able to search the > ones after 1925. > HTH > Anne > On 15 May 2007, at 01:31, Terri Wright wrote: > >> Hi out there, >> >> Can someone advise me as to how one can obtain information on births >> and >> deaths up to 1925, Ancestry says they have them free dbm's but I find >> it >> stops at 1915. >> >> I am looking for Michael, Owen, Stephen and John Woods, born in the >> Stockton >> on Tees area, between 1906 and 1925 also their mother who died after >> the >> last child was born. her name was Mary Ann Woods, ne Kelly. Their >> father was >> Patrick Joseph Woods, the last address I have for them was 6 Front Row, >> Furness Cottage, Carlinhow, Cleveland, England, that was in 1915. >> >> >> >> Terri, USA >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message