Is there alist for Van Dieman's Land ? Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alison Briggs" <avbriggs@optusnet.com.au> To: <ENG-YORKSHIRE@rootsweb.com>; <YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 7:03 AM Subject: [YORKSHIRE] Hulks - answer found! > Thanks to everyone, to numerour to mention, on these lists who has > reponded to my enquiry about where the Brothers Briggs were sent after > trial. They ended up aboard the Retribution at Sheerness before boarding > the Gilmore and heading for Van Diemen's Land, never to return. > > Special thanks to Mike, Judy, Colin and Carolyn. > > Cheers > Alison > Sydney, Australia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi You could try this site by the Perth Dead Persons Society. It has many lists and tells you a lot about Van Diemans Land and other places. It also has many list of convicts and other happenings and I think could be a good site to help you. _http://members.iinet.com.au/~perthdps/convicts/res-12.html#vdl_ (http://members.iinet.com.au/~perthdps/convicts/res-12.html#vdl) Regards JUDY ELKINGTON [W.R.Yorkshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Anyone researching this family. I believe James Barton ran a school between 1841 and 1861 at Mooregate, Rotherham. 1-James Snr BARTON b: abt 1790 in Bury, St.Edmunds, Suffolk, England sp: Mary HOLROYD b: 26 Apr 1812 in Burleigh Carr, Yorkshire, England m: 4 Feb 1829 in Longley, Tankersley, Yorkshire, England 2-James Jnr BARTON b: 11 Mar 1830 in Ecclesfield, YKS. England 2-Edwin BARTON b: 30 Nov 1831 in Ecclesfield, YKS. England d: 3 Oct 1876 in Wallerawang, NSW. Australia 2-Thomas BARTON b: Nov 1833 in Ecclesfield , Yorkshire.England. 2-Margaret BARTON b: abt 1836 d: 1 Jan 1917 in Rotherham, Yorkshire, England 2-Fanny BARTON b: abt 1838 in Sheffield, York, England 2-Mary Ann BARTON b: abt 1839 2-Frederick William BARTON b: abt 1842 in Sheffield, York, England 2-Sarah E BARTON b: abt 1845 in Sheffield, York, England 2-Edward Matthew BARTON (Matthew) b: 1847 in Wath, Yorkshire 2-Annie E BARTON b: abt 1849 in Wath, Yorkshire 2-Henry J BARTON b: 1851 in Rotherham, Yorkshire, England Georgia McLeish Clements Ballina. NSW.

Anyone researching this family. 1-Edward Matthew BARTON (Matthew) b: 1847 in Wath, Yorkshire sp: Alice b: abt 1855 in Bawtry, Yorkshire, England 2-Sydney W BARTON b: 1876 in Bawtry, Yorkshire, England 2-Elsie Ann BARTON b: 1880 in Bawty, Yorkshire, England 2-Mabel Enid BARTON b: abt 1882 in Bawtry, Yorkshire, England 2-Edward Grayson BARTON b: abt 1884 in Bawtry, Yorkshire, England 2-Errol Richard BARTON b: abt 1877 in Bawtry, Yorkshire, England 2-Francis Charles BARTON b: abt 1889 in Bawtry, Yorkshire, England Georgia McLeish Clements Ballina. NSW.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaggieGoodman90 Surnames: West Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/14751.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Fantastic - that's him!!!!!!!!thank you very much; however I am trying to find Richard West's parents' name - this is where I have hit a brick wall. Any suggestions on how I can obtain this without having to purchase original certificates? Again thank you Yorkshire 123. Sincerely Maggie from Australia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

To all those who enquired about how I found out about which hulk housed my 3 brothers, here's the answer I received from Mike. I've put a query in to this new lead. Cheers Alison Sydney, Australia >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike Binns" <mike.gen@tiscali.co.uk> >> To: <avbriggs@optusnet.com.au> >> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 4:46 AM >> Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Criminals transferred to hulks in London >> >> >>> Hello Alison >>> >>> The brothers were all held on the hulk Retribution at Sheerness. This >>> information is on a CD-ROM produced by Jill Chambers >>> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Jill_M_Chambers/ called >>> "Sentenced to Death & Transportation - Yorkshire 1830-1839". I came >>> across it when researching an ancestor of my wife's who was transported >>> to Tasmania in 1834. Jill has a database with a lot more information >>> than appears on the CD and when I bought the CD did a search of her >>> database for me. It may be worth your while contacting her. >>> >>> Regards >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Alison Briggs" <avbriggs@optusnet.com.au> >>> To: <ENG-YORKSHIRE@rootsweb.com>; <YORKSGEN@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:17 AM >>> Subject: [YORKSHIRE] Criminals transferred to hulks in London >>> >>> >>>> Hi Listers >>>> >>>> Would anyone know where a convict would be sent once his trial was over >>>> in Doncaster and in York? I'm trying to find out which hulks my >>>> convict were sent to before being transported. >>>> >>>> Their details are: >>>> Christopher Briggs sentenced at Doncaster on 17 January 1831 >>>> >>>> Charles & James Briggs sentenced at York on 9 July 1831 >>>> >>>> The brothers all ended up on the Gilmore which departed for Van >>>> Diemen's Land on 27 November 1831. >>>> >>>> Does anyone know of a list (online preferably!) where I could look >>>> these up please? >>>> >>>> Many thanks >>>> Alison >>>> >>>> Alison Briggs >>>> Sydney >>>> Australia >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >> >> >>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: yorkshire123 Surnames: WEST LOXLEY Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/14751.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Still shows same place of birth in 1861 He has advanced now he is a powder flask manufacturer employing 5 men Living with them is Ellens father Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3486; Folio: 59; Page: 26; GSU roll: 543139. 1861 England Census about Richard West Name: Richard West Age: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1822 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ellen Gender: Male Where born: Sutton On Trent, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Sheffield Ecclesiastical parish: St George Town: Sheffield County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: North Sheffield ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 163 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Loxley 62 born Ecclesfield no occupation shown Ellen West 37 Mary Ann West 12 Richard West 39 Wilfred West 3 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: yorkshire123 Surnames: WEST Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/14751.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi There were only 2 Richard wife Ellen this looks a fairly reasonable match and a starting point to find out more about him Christine If you want image let me have your email addy 1851 England Census Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2336; Folio: 84; Page: 32; GSU roll: 87583-87584. Name: Richard West Age: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1822 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Ellen Gender: Male Where born: Sutton On Trent, Nottinghamshire, England Living Infirmary Lane Civil parish: Nether Hallam Ecclesiastical parish: St Philip County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Occupation:Powder Flask maker************interesting! Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub-registration district: Nether Hallam ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 119 Household Members: Name Age Ellen West 27 born Sheffield Mary Ann West 2 born Sheffield Richard West 29 Joseph Wild 38 visitor born Sheffield Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello everyone, Occasionally my over-zealous Yahoo sends an incoming submission to the list of Spam mail. I usually catch this, but last week I got a glimpse of a THORNTON submission as I deleted the spam. Could the submitter in question please resubmit his/her surname? So sorry. Below, the list of bouncing submitters whose entries (numbered in brackets) have all been deleted from the database. Thanks again to all those inform me of bouncing emails. David Barrand (1) barrand@77msn.com Judy Dawe (3) dawejudy@charter.net Ian Jolly (2) ian@eck.net.au Leonard Newcombe (1) zelen@tassie.net.au Bob Henderson (7) bobh3rd@ntlworld.com Carol Toulson (5) CToulson@compuserve.com Barbara Burt (2) bubarba499@cs.com Below, the list of new submissions this past fortnight: ARCHER BARNETT, BELL, BROOK, BROTHERTON COBB EASBY FARRAR, FIELD, FLINTON INGHAM LEE, LEEMING PEVERLEY, PICKERING RODGER SPROATS WAITE, WARMAN, WHITTAKER, WHITWELL, WILSON Best regards to all, Magdalena -- Magdalena Gorrell Guimaraens List Administrator INSTRUCTIONS FOR SUBMITTING NAMES and Home Page: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/YKSlist/ PLEASE ADDRESS ALL CORRESPONDENCE TO: ykssurnames@yahoo.com

Hello Georgia from Downunder: Yes, I am interested in the BARTON'S...do you have any migrating too the colony of South Carolina prior to 1786? I am searching for the parents of SARAH BARTON, b SC 1786 d SC 1880. Any ideas? Regards, Hugh in Dallas ----- Original Message ----- From: "G.Clements" <jmclements42@tadaust.org.au> To: <ENG-YORKSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:33 AM Subject: [YORKSHIRE] Barton family > Anyone researching this family. > > I believe James Barton ran a school between 1841 and 1861 at Mooregate, > Rotherham. > > 1-James Snr BARTON b: abt 1790 in Bury, St.Edmunds, Suffolk, England > > sp: Mary HOLROYD > > b: 26 Apr 1812 in Burleigh Carr, Yorkshire, England > > m: 4 Feb 1829 in Longley, Tankersley, Yorkshire, England > > 2-James Jnr BARTON > > b: 11 Mar 1830 in Ecclesfield, YKS. England > > 2-Edwin BARTON > > b: 30 Nov 1831 in Ecclesfield, YKS. England > > d: 3 Oct 1876 in Wallerawang, NSW. Australia > > 2-Thomas BARTON > > b: Nov 1833 in Ecclesfield , Yorkshire.England. > > 2-Margaret BARTON > > b: abt 1836 > > d: 1 Jan 1917 in Rotherham, Yorkshire, England > > 2-Fanny BARTON > > b: abt 1838 in Sheffield, York, England > > 2-Mary Ann BARTON > > b: abt 1839 > > 2-Frederick William BARTON > > b: abt 1842 in Sheffield, York, England > > 2-Sarah E BARTON > > b: abt 1845 in Sheffield, York, England > > 2-Edward Matthew BARTON (Matthew) > > b: 1847 in Wath, Yorkshire > > 2-Annie E BARTON > > b: abt 1849 in Wath, Yorkshire > > 2-Henry J BARTON > > b: 1851 in Rotherham, Yorkshire, England > > Georgia McLeish Clements > Ballina. NSW. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaggieGoodman90 Surnames: West/Loxley Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/14751/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Married June 1845 in Sheffield. Can anybody help with names of parents of Richard West please. Believe it was another Richard West, but need DOB, place and any bit of information that you can give. Sincerely Maggie from Australia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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Hi Does anyone connect with either of the names below Hannah (HOPTON) was Georges 2nd wife and I have never been able to find him before 1881 He is my gtgtgrandfather I would love to know his first wifes name The only child I know of is my GtGrandmother Sarah Elizabeth ROWE who married James BARKER Living Saddleworth 1881 Any help appreciated Chris 1881 George ROWE Head M Male 55 Somerset, England Carpenter **************** Hannah ROWE Wife M Female 58 Hipperholme, York, England *********** Ben HOPTON Son U Male 18 Wike, York, England Wire Drawer ********************* Clara Margret HOPTON Daughter Female 15 Wike, York, England Mill Hand (Carpet) ****************** George BARKER Boarder W Male 55 Northowram, York, England Carpet Weaver Richard HIRST Boarder M Male 24 York, England Carpet Weaver Emily Elizabeth HIRST Boarder M Female 22 York, England Carpet Setter Dwelling Baliffe Bridge Census Place Hipperholme Cum Brighouse, York, England Family History Library Film 1342050 Public Records Office Reference RG11

Thanks to everyone, to numerour to mention, on these lists who has reponded to my enquiry about where the Brothers Briggs were sent after trial. They ended up aboard the Retribution at Sheerness before boarding the Gilmore and heading for Van Diemen's Land, never to return. Special thanks to Mike, Judy, Colin and Carolyn. Cheers Alison Sydney, Australia

In a message dated 09/06/2007 07:04:31 GMT Standard Time, avbriggs@optusnet.com.au writes: Thanks to everyone, to numerour to mention, on these lists who has reponded to my enquiry about where the Brothers Briggs were sent after trial. They ended up aboard the Retribution at Sheerness before boarding the Gilmore and heading for Van Diemen's Land, never to return. Hi I never saw an answer to this question. Could you please tell us where you looked to find the names. It is rather pertinent to a booklet I am writing at the Moment. Thank you Judy Elkington

Hi All, I'm looking for the whereabouts of King Charles St, Saint Peters, Bradford. The street doesn't appear to be here today or on any maps that I can find, however Susy Keeler and her children lived at No 23 from the 1871 Census to 1901 Census. Presumably the street was either demolished or re-named after 1901, would somebody be able to point me in the right direction to find the street, I've tried just about everything I can think of. Cheers Carolyn Townsville Aus.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: marianne2001 Surnames: routh Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/5226.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: That should be toni_toni@xtra.co.nz Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: marianne2001 Surnames: routh Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/5226.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am happy to share any information I might have if you would like to contact me at toni_toni@xtra.co.nz Marianne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: marianne2001 Surnames: Routh Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/5226.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I dont know of how much help I can be but I am happy to share the information I have. Contact me on toni_toni@xtra.co.nz Marianne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: yorkshire123 Surnames: NEWSOME Classification: census Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/14746.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi William and Mary 1851-1901 Chris any images you want let me know I cant see an Albert born 1884 who are parents???? 1851 England Census about William Newsome Name: William Newsome Age: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1828 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Dewsbury, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Dewsbury Town: Dewsbury County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Dewsbury Sub-registration district: Mirfield ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 122 Household Members: Name Age John Newsome 3 Mo Mary Newsome 21 William Newsome 23 1861 England Census about William Newsome Name: William Newsome Age: 32 Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Dewsbury, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Dewsbury Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Dewsbury County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Dewsbury Sub-registration district: Dewsbury ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 245 Household Members: Name Age Dominic Brannan 20 Frank Newsome 8 Isaac Newsome 5 John Newsome 10 Mary Newsome 30 Maryann Newsome 1 William Newsome 32 1871 England Census about William Newsome Name: William Newsome Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Dewsbury, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Batley Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Batley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Dewsbury Sub-registration district: Batley ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 27 Household Members: Name Age Ann Brannon 6 lodger Domnick Brannon 20 lodger Frank Newsome 13 Grace Newsome 14 John Newsome 29 Joseph Newsome 9 Mary Newsome 40 born Huddersfield Mary A Newsome 11 William Newsome 42 Engineer Wm Newsome 7 1881 England Census about William Newsome Name: William Newsome Age: 52 Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Dewsbury, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Batley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Low Chapel Fold Intake Lane Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Factory Engineer (Stok) Registration district: Dewsbury Sub-registration district: Batley ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Francis Newsome 28 Isaac Newsome 23 Joseph Newsome 18 Mary Newsome 51 Mary Ann Newsome 21 William Newsome 52 William Newsome 16 1891 England Census about Ernest Newsome Name: Ernest Newsome Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1884 Relation: Grandson Father's name: William Gender: Male Where born: Dewsbury, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Batley Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Batley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Dewsbury Sub-registration district: Batley ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ernest Newsome 7 Frank Newsome 38 Joseph Newsome 30 Mary Newsome 60 Mary Ann Newsome 32 William Newsome 62 William Newsome 28 1901 England Census about Mary Newsome Name: Mary Newsome Age: 73 Estimated birth year: abt 1828 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Batley Ecclesiastical parish: Staincliffe County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Dewsbury Sub-registration district: Batley ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 174 Household Members: Name Age Earnest Newsome 18 single Frank Newsome 48 single Joseph Newsome 41 widower Mary Newsome 73 widow Mary A Newsome 44 single Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.