This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: munnster5 Surnames: Hardick, Hardwick, Agar, Donahue Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/2517.2759.2761.3608.3663.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Shirley, We've changed e-mail servers and at the same time fooled with the computer and managed to lose all my stored messages. New e-mail: munnster5@embarqmail.com. We are heading north tomorrow and I know you said that the Hardicks get together in June. Any chance I'll be able to meet you? We will be in Algonac, MI on the 25th of June. Will you please send me the name of Alice Hardick's brother that is your ancestor? All my data has disappeared. I'll have my laptop with me, so can keep in touch. My good contact in Seamer, Yorkshire has retired. However, I got an address for him and still think he will get us some good data. By for now, munnster5 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: munnster5 Surnames: Hardick, Hardwick, Agar, Donahue Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/2517.2759.2761.3608.3663.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Shirley, We've changed e-mail servers and at the same time fooled with the computer and managed to lose all my stored messages. New e-mail: munnster5@embarqmail.com. We are heading north tomorrow and I know you said that the Hardicks get together in June. Any chance I'll be able to meet you? We will be in Algonac, MI on the 25th of June. Will you please send me the name of Alice Hardick's brother that is your ancestor? All my data has disappeared. I'll have my laptop with me, so can keep in touch. My good contact in Seamer, Yorkshire has retired. However, I got an address for him and still think he will get us some good data. By for now, munnster5 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi This is my family in 1851 but I can not find them in 1841 Bettys daughter Sarah is married in 1851 to James BUTTERWORTH Can anyone help please Chris 1851 England Census Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2300; Folio: 528; Page: 20; GSU roll: 87506-87508. Name:Betty Senior Age:48 Estimated birth year:abt 1803 Relation:Head Gender:Female Where born:Warley, Yorkshire, England Civil parish:Warley County/Island:Yorkshire Country:England Registration district:Halifax Sub-registration district:Sowerby ED, institution, or vessel:1e Neighbors:View others on page Household schedule number:75 Household Members:NameAge Alice Senior9 born Warley********in 1861 she is with sister Sarah(Sally) BUTTERWORTH Betty Senior48 born Warley Mary Senior18 born Warley

Hi Thanks to Steff and Carolyn for the info. Can anyone tell me where is most likely place for someone born Warley to be Christened if not in Warley Church???? Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn and Darryl" <dazwilson@bigpond.com> To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 3:14 AM Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Sarah SENIOR born Warley about 1825 - help please > Hi, Chris, > > Any chance that her father could be Daniel and mother Elizabeth? > > There is a Sarah aged 15 in the 1841 Census at Kirkburton, Shepley, YKS, > but > I don'y know whether it's anywhere near Warley. > > HTH, > > Carolyn. AUS. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "yorkshire123" <yorkshire123@blueyonder.co.uk> > To: "yorkshire" <eng-yorkshire-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 6:53 AM > Subject: [YORKSHIRE] Sarah SENIOR born Warley about 1825 - help please > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.1/854 - Release Date: 19/06/2007 > 13:12 >

Hi, Chris, Any chance that her father could be Daniel and mother Elizabeth? There is a Sarah aged 15 in the 1841 Census at Kirkburton, Shepley, YKS, but I don'y know whether it's anywhere near Warley. HTH, Carolyn. AUS. ----- Original Message ----- From: "yorkshire123" <yorkshire123@blueyonder.co.uk> To: "yorkshire" <eng-yorkshire-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 6:53 AM Subject: [YORKSHIRE] Sarah SENIOR born Warley about 1825 - help please

Hi I am trying to find the father of this lady. On IGI all I can find is this entry Sarah Senior Birth: About 1825 Warley, Yorkshire, England Parents: Father: Senior Mother: Betty Does anyone have access to Parish records? Any help would be great Chris

Hello, Roy, I have no doubt that there was never such a marriage. (I paid AUS $39 to be told that!) The marriage date was from a family member, (who may have been trying to 'protect' us), although we already knew that we had one convict in the family. However, since that one convict, we have already found another few!! (unmentioned in the tree!) George and Charlotte were too late to have been convicts, however, so I am told. Re: Another "Family Story". "George SHEPHARD was at a dance and was dancing with this girl called Charlotte and they both discovered their surnames were the same." They went out together and "got married." My husband would really like to know the truth about the SHEPHARDs and so would I.! What else can I say which I haven't already? I do know that people often lied and am very understanding of that fact. Still, my 92 + year old mother in law would like to know the truth. (She's totally 'compos mentis' and didn't turn a hair when I said this week that there wasn't such a marriage and she replied that "maybe they weren't married at all"! ) Slight shock to hear that from someone that age ! Best wishes, Carolyn. AUS. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] NEW LISTER RE: SHEPHARD.

Hi, Dave, On second thoughts: I don't know about the information I have about George. I 'suspect' it may be an untruth. There is no reference at all to where in Yorkshire, and I have looked up all the Census I can and really have not found anything. Not that I asked the reasearcher who looked up the marrriage to do so, but he looked up every Census etc. and I was a little perturbed, because I also have Ancestry and we all, obviously have access to FreeBDM. All the family member has written that George was b. to a James and a Sarah WINTERBOTTOM, with no dates. Do I presume that he was illegitimate? On his DC, the Informant (for which Certificate I'm still waiting from www.nsw.gov.au ) must have known that his parents were a James and a Sarah. Alternatively, George told them that. Would that mean he knew he was illegitimate and was proud of the fact that he knew his parents' names? It's all a mystery to me and I'd love some help. Best wishes, Carolyn. AUS. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <dave.jassie@ntlworld.com> > > Hi Carolyn, > Welcome to the ENG-YORKSHIRE list. > My advice would be (if you haven't already done so) to subscribe to the > SHEPHARD surname list as you seem to have very little Yorkshire related > information. > Yorkshire's a big place and you really need to be able tp pinpoint more > acurately where in Yorkshire George was born.

Hi, David, Yes, I have done that, but there seem to be no messages at all since I subscribed. Thank you so much for answering. Carolyn. AUS. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <dave.jassie@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] NEW LISTER RE: SHEPHARD.

Hi again Here is the connection I have more info if you want it and a photo of Williams grave which I visited this year for 1st time Chris William DUCKETT*********************** my gtgtgrandfather Birth: Studfield, Horton Ribblesda, West Riding, Yorks Death: 27 Jun 1870 at Waters Farm, Clapham, West Riding, Yorks 1st Wife was Betty PROCTER Marriage: 29 Mar 1813 in Horton/Ribblesda, West Riding, Yorks Richard DUCKETT b. 5 Jun 1812 in Horton in Ribblesdale, West Riding, Yorks Betty DUCKETT b. 18 Nov 1814 in Horton in Ribblesdale, West Riding, Yorks Ellen DUCKETT b. 6 Aug 1817 Henry Proctor DUCKETT b. 6 Jun 1819 in Raw End, Horton Ribblesda, West Riding, Yorks ************* your link 2nd Wife of William was Jane /Janet BENTLEY b. 1803 in Giggleswick, West Riding, Yorks ************ my gtgtgrandmother Marriage: 11 Sep 1824 Death:13 Jun 1875 atWaters Farm, Clapham, West Riding, Yorks Grace DUCKETT b. 2 Dec 1825 in Fawber, Horton Ribblesda, West Riding, Yorks Charles Martin DUCKETT b. 11 Nov 1827 in Fawber, Horton Ribblesda, West Riding, Yorks William DUCKETT b. 7 Jan 1829 in Fawber, Horton Ribblesda, West Riding, Yorks Jane DUCKETT b. 1 Jan 1830 in Fawber, Horton Ribblesda, West Riding, Yorks Thomas DUCKETT b. 13 Feb 1832 in Dubcoate, Horton Ribblesda, West Riding, Yorks Mary DUCKETT b. 13 Feb 1832 in Dubcoate, Horton Ribblesda, West Riding, Yorks Anthony DUCKETT b. 21 Feb 1834 in Dubcoate, Horton Ribblesda, West Riding, Yorks James DUCKETT b. 9 Jul 1836 in Dubcoate, Horton Ribblesda, West Riding, Yorks *************my link my gtgrandfather Hannah DUCKETT b. 17 Nov 1839 in Dubcoate, Horton Ribblesda, West Riding, Yorks John DUCKETT b. 15 Feb 1842 in Newlands House, Horton Ribblesda, West Riding, Yorks Margaret DUCKETT b. 1 Mar 1844 in Newlands House, Horton Ribblesda, West Riding, Yorks Alban DUCKETT b. 17 Jun 1846 in Waters, Austwick, West Riding, Yorks ----- Original Message ----- From: "yorkshire123" <yorkshire123@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Re Duckett > marg@jpalmer15.freeserve.co.uk > wrote > snip<> descended from HENRY PROCTOR DUCKETT born about 1821 > Hi > Great to hear from you > and I think we connect > Will send details later of how when I get my files sorted > Christine > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "j palmer" <marg@jpalmer15.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:24 PM > Subject: [YORKSHIRE] Re Duckett > > >> Hi Chris >> >> One of my Aunts was a DUCKETT of Horton in Ribblesdale descent. She was >> descended from HENRY PROCTOR DUCKETT born about 1821 >> and his son WILLLIAM born about 1845. Her line went to live in Leeds. >> Mary Palmer >> >> <yorkshire123@blueyonder.co.uk> >> To: "yorkshire" <eng-yorkshire-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 9:40 PM >> Subject: [YORKSHIRE] reposting interests >> >> >>> Hi >>> As lists seem quiet thought I would repost >>> Chris >>> BARKER = Bradford area >>> WHEATER = Bradford ,Keighley >>> ROWE =Bradford originally Devon,Surrey >>> HOPTON = Brighouse >>> BAIRSTOW=Bradford >>> BUTTERWORTH=Warley ,Halifax,Todmorden >>> SENIOR =Warley >>> WADE= Warley , Haworth >>> CALVERT=Bradford >>> DUCKETT= Horton in Ribblesdale, Keighley >>> DINSDALE = Hawes,Gargrave >>> BROWN= Bainbridge >>> BOLAND=Keighley >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.0/853 - Release Date: 18/06/2007 >> 15:02 >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.0/853 - Release Date: 18/06/2007 > 15:02 > >

Good'ay to you all First time listing so i hope i am doing it correctly, I am interested in contacting any descendants of John & Sarah (nee Hutton) Keighley who married in 1808 Calverly/Idle district (sorry i just can not remember the church at time of writing) i have not been to successful in Tracing Johns linage other than what information i have found on the Calverly site. so if there are any listers out there who have a connection to the KEIGHLEY clan please contact me on "hillofgrange@iprimus.com.au" and we can compare info. Also while i was searching the Tasmanian site i discovered a convict by the name of William KEIGHLEY who was transported 9/12/1843 on the Marion arrived 4/4/1844 does any listers have any information on this person this all the info i can supply, i have been so absorbed in tracing the family in Yorkshire i did not concider checking out Aussie sites. Regards to you all Ray Keighley Melbourne

Terri USA wrote - Hi David, guess I am not as smart as you, I just don't have time to read every detail. It would be a lot easier if every list did the same thing instead of having different ways to unsubscribe. There is absolutely nothing 'smart' in being able to read the bottom of a message - one that is included in *every* message you get from the list. A similar message is added automatically to EVERY list message on EVERY Rootsweb mailing list. Rootsweb use exactly the same way for unsubscribing on all of their mailing listsd. Just a quick reminder folks - please change the 'subject' line to something more suitable when replying to a 'Digest' and leave out any unnecessary text. Don't just click on 'Reply'

marg@jpalmer15.freeserve.co.uk wrote snip<> descended from HENRY PROCTOR DUCKETT born about 1821 Hi Great to hear from you and I think we connect Will send details later of how when I get my files sorted Christine ----- Original Message ----- From: "j palmer" <marg@jpalmer15.freeserve.co.uk> To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:24 PM Subject: [YORKSHIRE] Re Duckett > Hi Chris > > One of my Aunts was a DUCKETT of Horton in Ribblesdale descent. She was > descended from HENRY PROCTOR DUCKETT born about 1821 > and his son WILLLIAM born about 1845. Her line went to live in Leeds. > Mary Palmer > > <yorkshire123@blueyonder.co.uk> > To: "yorkshire" <eng-yorkshire-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 9:40 PM > Subject: [YORKSHIRE] reposting interests > > >> Hi >> As lists seem quiet thought I would repost >> Chris >> BARKER = Bradford area >> WHEATER = Bradford ,Keighley >> ROWE =Bradford originally Devon,Surrey >> HOPTON = Brighouse >> BAIRSTOW=Bradford >> BUTTERWORTH=Warley ,Halifax,Todmorden >> SENIOR =Warley >> WADE= Warley , Haworth >> CALVERT=Bradford >> DUCKETT= Horton in Ribblesdale, Keighley >> DINSDALE = Hawes,Gargrave >> BROWN= Bainbridge >> BOLAND=Keighley >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.0/853 - Release Date: 18/06/2007 > 15:02 >

Greetings to All, 1st posting to the List, so hoping for a little advice/suggestions. This is the "Family Story". George SHEPHARD (b. abt 1829, Yorkshire to a James and Sarah) married on 17 Apr, 1854, Derbyshire a Charlotte SHEPHARD (b. abt 1832, Derbyshire.) [I have had a researcher try to find this marriage and it doesn't exist!] George and Charlotte sold everything in England and bought a ship/boat and sailed to Australia with 2 little daughters, Sarh and Hannah. Baby Mary Jane was born abt 1860 at sea. They sold the boat/ship and bought a bullock and dray and travelled across the Blue Mountains to the Rockley/Bathurst area, where they (? bought) a farm called "Summerhill" at Rockley and proceeded to have another 7 children between 1862 and 1874. Fact: George died in 1879. (I have sent for his DC.) In 1885, Charlotte was listed in the Bathurst Landholders as having over 1,300 acres at "Summerhill", Rockley + stock. Son James was also a Landholder in 1885 at O'Brien's Creek, as was an F. SHEPHERD at Box Ridge Common, Box Ridge. Fact: Charlotte died in 1916 at Rockley, aged 83. Do any kind listers have any ideas as to where I can go from here? Best wishes, Carolyn. AUS.

Good'ay to you all First time listing so i hope i am doing it correctly, I am interested in contacting any descendants of John & Sarah (nee Hutton) Keighley who married in 1808 Calverly/Idle district (sorry i just can not remember the church at time of writing) i have not been to successful in Tracing Johns linage other than what information i have found on the Calverly site. so if there are any listers out there who have a connection to the KEIGHLEY clan please contact me on "hillofgrange@iprimus.com.au" and we can compare info. Also while i was searching the Tasmanian site i discovered a convict by the name of William KEIGHLEY who was transported 9/12/1843 on the Marion arrived 4/4/1844 does any listers have any information on this person this all the info i can supply, i have been so absorbed in tracing the family in Yorkshire i did not concider checking out Aussie sites. Regards to you all Ray Keighley Melbourne

From: "Carolyn and Darryl" <dazwilson@bigpond.com> > George SHEPHARD (b. abt 1829, Yorkshire to a James and Sarah) married > on 17 Apr, 1854, Derbyshire a Charlotte SHEPHARD (b. abt 1832, > Derbyshire.) > > [I have had a researcher try to find this marriage and it doesn't > exist!]> Where did you get such a precise date for the marriage from? Presumably an Australian document, such as the birth certificate of one of the children? Where in Derbyshire was the marriage supposed to have taken place? It is unlikely Charlotte's maiden name was also Shephard, unless she was a cousin. Shephard is a very common name, with numerous variants, so any search would have to take into account different spellings. It doesn't appear at FreeBMD, so far as I can see, nor does George's birth/baptism appear on the IGI. How do you know he was born in Yorkshire? You may have to face the fact that he lied somewhere along the line and there never was a marriage. People often did, you know! -- Roy Stockdill Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Dear list, I have a postcard, on it is written 'John F ROSS' a post card Photographer , year 1903. Can anyone tell me about a John F ROSS a post card Photographer at Argyle House West Cliff. Just to fill you all in the photo is of three donkeys, Mrs Gordon DAVIES children are sitting on the donkeys. Whilst we have a lovely 20 year old girl dress in a pinafore white cotton dress named Elizabeth ELLERBY. Date August 1903. Standing on what looks like sand with what's looks like a stone sea retaining wall. But I'm more interested in the Photographer, John F ROSS of Argyle House West Cliff. Just to let you all know I have contact a Bill of Argyle House and he stated he's only been here 3 years haven't a clue. Cheers Steve Stephen Hillier EFHS # 20031 President Editor of the La Recherché ------------------------------------------------ Give people more than they expect and do it cheerfully, "Silence is not an end in itself." ----------------------------------------------- Researching All variants HILLIER-L-request@rootsweb.com FREAK-L-request@rootsweb.com WORT-L-request@rootsweb.com

From: "Carolyn and Darryl" <dazwilson@bigpond.com> wrote > Greetings to All, > > 1st posting to the List, so hoping for a little advice/suggestions. > > This is the "Family Story". > > George SHEPHARD (b. abt 1829, Yorkshire to a James and Sarah) married on > 17 Apr, 1854, Derbyshire a Charlotte SHEPHARD (b. abt 1832, Derbyshire.) <<snipped>> > Do any kind listers have any ideas as to where I can go from here? > > Best wishes, > > Carolyn. AUS. Hi Carolyn, Welcome to the ENG-YORKSHIRE list. My advice would be (if you haven't already done so) to subscribe to the SHEPHARD surname list as you seem to have very little Yorkshire related information. Yorkshire's a big place and you really need to be able tp pinpoint more acurately where in Yorkshire George was born. Cheers, Dave Jassie - List Administrator

Hi Chris I notice you have Bairstow in Bradford. I also have Bairstows there and wonder if we have any connection. I have Paul Bairstow/Bastow, born 1794 and who lived in Lttle Horton at some stage. He married Mary North. Paul's father was ABraham Bastow, and I am still trying to establish who Abrahanm's father was - I know he was another Abraham, but which one is the puzzle!! A son of Paul was Benjamin, born 1826, who was later in Leeds. Do any of these tie in with any of yours? Look forward to hearing. Regards Janice (nee Bairstow) in New Zealand -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1319 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: HelenOram Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/14758.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Richard, I am also descended from Thomas & Alice BUTTERFIELD. I have not been able to go any further back from Alice, as there are no baptism records for Aysgarth prior to around 1700. However there were Dodsworths in the Thoralby area much earlier from other sources such as wills, tax records etc. It is just not possible to tie them all up into a family tree. I suspect that we are connected to the Dodsworths of Thornton Watlass but the link would probably be back in the 15th century. Again with Thomas BUTERFIELD it is not possible to know exactly who his father was but it was probably either a Richard or a Peter BUTTERFIELD. There is a will of John BUTTERFIELD of Thornton Watlass who died in 1664 who leaves money to his BUTTERFIELD relations at Thoralby, as well as establishing the BUTTERFIELD charity for the poor of Thoralby. I do not think it is possible to go much farther back with this tree either due to the poor baptism records at Aysgarth. There is one Peter Butterfield who was a real character and was either always getting into trouble , fighting or trying to con people out of property - see the National Archives records and search for Peter Butterfield! http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/default.asp?j=1 Another later Richard BUTTERFIELD must also have upset his neighbours as from the Quarter Sessions records held at Northallerton. 18 Feb 1774 John Hird of Wensley and James Watters of Harkerside bound for £20 ... to answer such matters as assaulting and beating Richard Butterfield of Wensley. This would be the Richard born Thoralby in 1730, who married Margaret Scott in Wensley in 1756 and who died in Wensley in 1818. I've no futher details. You can see my tree at Helen's pages on the site http://www.wtoram.co.uk/ Regards, Helen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.