Michelle Try RG13/4482 f77 p18 - I can send you the image off list if you need it? Regards Geoff in sevilla >From: "michele" <michele.harrison@ntlworld.com> >Reply-To: eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com >To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [YORKSHIRE] 1901 census index >Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:56:28 +0100 > >If anyone has a name index for the 1901 census, I would very much >appreciate the piece and folio reference for the following man - >John Leaf, age 50, boiler maker rivetter, born Thornton Yorks. He is >somewhere in the Sculcoates area. >TIA. >Michele > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Watch all 9 Live Earth concerts live on MSN. http://liveearth.uk.msn.com

I have been endeavouring to find a marriage for a John WILSON and Sarah Jane LEPPER in Sussex or in the London area somewhere about 1810 with negative results so far. According to Census records John WILSON was born in London but having a name like John WILSON doesn't do a researcher any favours! One possible clue is the visit of an Elizabeth WILSON aged 23 to the DUKE household in Leominster, Sussex in 1861. Census records for 1861 say Elizabeth was born in Ayton, Yorkshire; she was staying with William and Elizabeth Jane (nee WILSON) DUKE on the night of the Census. Is there anyone on the list who can help me to find the family of Elizabeth WILSON? Anne -- Anne PICKETTS Waipu, NZ Researching: LEADBEATER, SMITH, WASHINGTON, BARKER, SHEPHERD, PEARSON, ROBINSON, GILL, HARRIS, FISH, SUTTON in YKS and CBL

From: "Yvonne Scrivener" <scrivener@iinet.net.au> > Hi Carolyn, > > Always a good place to start when you are researching in England is > GENUKI. > > Here is the link to Places in Yorkshire on GENUKI: > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Where/index.html > > Yvonne Scrivener > Wagga Wagga NSW > Australia> I'd like to heartily endorse Yvonne's message. Really, not living in the UK and being unfamiliar with British geography is no excuse these days when all you have to do is enter a place name into Google and it will usually come up with umpteen websites telling you exactly where the place is. And, most certainly, "Where is it in Yorkshire" at the GENUKI site is probably by far and away the best place to start. I am always telling newcomers that you really cannot do your family history properly if you are totally ignorant about the places your ancestors came from. How can you be expected to trace them if you don't familiarise yourself with the geography of the area in which they lived? Such knowledge is vital in cases where, for instance, you don't find them in an expected parish. You then need to know the contiguous (adjacent) parishes and to look for them there. In relation to the latter, I absolutely recommend as a MUST for any genealogist's library the Phillimore Atlas and Index of Parish Registers. This gives you ordinary maps alongside parish maps of every county in Britain, plus complete listings of all the registers, the dates they cover and the whereabouts of every record office they are kept in, plus other information. Cheap it ain't at 50 pounds - so why not get your loved one to give it to you for your birthday or Christmas. Alternatively, most half-decent reference libraries should have a copy of this most valuable work. -- Roy Stockdill Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Seeking info re the following and their families: BUTTSUME, Elizabeth born circa 1838 Lincolnshire. Spouse HUSTED/HUSTARD first name unknown. In 1881 census, Elizabeth was stated as widow, Head of household, address 9 Primitive Street, West Leeds. Their daughter Jemima Harriett born circa 1865, Wakefield.Jemima's husband Solomon BURROW born 1861 Leeds. Marriage 1884, St Philip's Church, Leeds Their daughter Elizabeth Ann BURROW, born 1889 Leeds, died 1966. Her husband Frank HUMPHRIES. born 1888, Oakworth (?), Leeds. Married 1921 All Souls Church (Hook Memorial), Leeds. Looking forward to any replies. John Manning, Dunedin, New Zealand.

Hi Carolyn, Always a good place to start when you are researching in England is GENUKI. Here is the link to Places in Yorkshire on GENUKI: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Where/index.html Yvonne Scrivener Wagga Wagga NSW Australia -----Original Message----- From: eng-yorkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-yorkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn and Darryl Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2007 10:22 AM To: eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] 1891 Lookup Please Hi, Janet, Happy to try although I've looked up the first 100 entries to no avail. Probably because I have no idea where Martin cum Grafton or Haxby are. Yorkshire? I live in Australia, hence my ignorance. Best wishes, Carolyn. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JANET E SPROWLS" <jancestor@juno.com> To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:47 AM Subject: [YORKSHIRE] 1891 Lookup Please ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 2401 (20070716) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

Hi, Lancashire also have an OPC group, which is growing daily. Loads of parishes transcribed and I'm in the process of transcribing Turton. As well, they are all so friendly and helpful that it's a delight to belong to this group. Carolyn. AUS. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Firebird" <sparrer@gmail.com> To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:35 AM Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Yorkshire OPC (Online Parish Clerks) > Garry wrote: > >> Hi list, >> >> I would like to ask this question once again seeing it wasn't answered >> the >> first time it was posted, I do hope somebody may know something now, it >> would be a great addition to our Yorkshire research!! >>

Hi, Janet, Happy to try although I've looked up the first 100 entries to no avail. Probably because I have no idea where Martin cum Grafton or Haxby are. Yorkshire? I live in Australia, hence my ignorance. Best wishes, Carolyn. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JANET E SPROWLS" <jancestor@juno.com> To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:47 AM Subject: [YORKSHIRE] 1891 Lookup Please

In a message dated 17/07/2007 13:15:53 GMT Standard Time, roy.stockdill@btinternet.com writes: Except in a novel of the name by Winifred Holtby Hi Roy, Bored again. Thanks for your updating which is very useful. Regards Judy Elkington

Hi If you live outside England then you can look up the names of all the towns and villages in Yorkshire in Genuki. _http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Where/_ (http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Where/) If there is a letter in brackets after the name (N) North riding, (W) West Riding (E) East riding. There is no South Riding. I did have a look for Martin-cum-Grafton and as a name it is not there but Grafton is there and so Martin-cum-Grafton means near Grafton so do not give up. Haxby is there in the North Riding. Hope this helps, Regards JUDY ELKINGTON [W.R.Yorkshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nlwilley1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/3830.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I'm hoping this is still a valid address for you. I do have a HALL-BOTTERILL connection in Yorkshire, and would be happy to discuss it, share info, etc. Thomas BOTTERILL b 1800 Scampston, Yorks m Mary HALL 14 Dec 1824 in Rillington, Yorks...she supposedly born 1802 in Rillington. They had the following children: Thomas, Elizabeth, John, Ann, Mary, Joseph, Jane--perhaps others. This is a peripheral line for me and I am just beginning to work on it for a cousin who is direct-line. Her information is more word-of-mouth than anything, and we've found some discepancies. Nancie Howell Willey Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nlwilley1 Surnames: BOTTERILL Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/14715.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I'd be very interested in the BOTTERILL records from Malton. My e-mail address is nlwilley@comcast.net. I've just realized....this computer does not have Excell...if it's an Excell spreadsheet, you could send it to my other computer: kd7own@comcast.net. Thank you so much. Nancie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi, At the bottom of the Dorset list is this "Starting up - Cambridgeshire, Cheshire, Derbyshire, Surrey and North and West Ridings of Yorkshire, but no details yet" So the Yorkshire OPC is being worked on along with others, if and when the Yorkshire site becomes available I will gladly add what I can like on the Dorset list, but to become an OPC I will decline that like when asked for the Dorset site. My hat comes off to all the OPC's who work unpaid!! Garry. > > If there's no OPC project for Yorkshire, how about co-ordinating it > yourself? > > There isn't just one OPC for a county but a project that involves a > whole team of volunteers who are willing to take the time to > transcribe the parish registers, census returns and other records from > the parish chest, double check the transcription for accuracy before > making it available. > > Each volunteer is the OPC for whatever parish or parishes s/he choses. > The choice is usually governed by a person's interest in a > particular parish. Some of the results are put online, some are not. > Some enquiries are dealt with by email, some by snail mail, some by > phone. > > Kent, Cornwall and Somerset all have OPC projects. I believe Devon > has a similar project. > > It isn't a quick, simple enterprise. It's very time consuming and > requires organisation.

Hi me again, I've added my tupence worth on Scottish research, now I'll tell you of my Californian experence. (lets all hold hands, LOL.) One of my Great Grandmothers was a Californian, her grandfather was a Methodist missionary to the Native American's in the Sierra Nevada. Unless your man was caputured in a census (remember they go back to 1790), then you might be out of luck. There are several problems with getting Vital Records (as the American's call them) out west. 1. The US system is decentralised, based arround local court houses. 2. As the west was opened up, there were almost continuous boundry changes of US counties, as well as State and Terirtorial Borders. 3. In general the further west you get the later BDM's start being registered, some places don't start till just till the early 20th century! It's nor impossible but I am saying unless he was born in a major population center, then getting a birth date & place is going to have be from other sources, like Newspapers and Census. Census are by far the best thing about US research, they contain heaps of info. If you have any questions, just feel free to ask. cheerrs John Dods Wellington, NZ --- Elizabeth Allan <elpka@westnet.com.au> wrote: > I have read with the interest the back and fro of > this thread. > > > > I am an Australian with ancestors in many parts of > England, some I have > successfully traced but one line is illusive. Roy is > right when he says we > must find as much information as possible ourselves > before posting a request > but what if there is no information? > > > > My Yorkshire ancestor is my biggest brick wall. My > GGG grandfather's death > certificate has no parents or first wife's name > listed just Yorkshire as > birth place and married in Yorkshire (first wife) > with no year stated and > America (second wife). Checking the birth > certificates of the two children > born in Australia one states York and the other > Yorkshire for place of > birth. Checking my GG grandfather's marriage and > death certificates I find > he was born in California. The information in > Australia is very limited > especially on the BDM for 1800's and I have decided > that I may never be able > to trace this family especially as they also have a > common surname. > > > > So for Roy and other's on this list it is not always > as simple as you may > indicate to trace family who migrated from the > "mother" land as the > information is not always available in the "adopted" > country. > > > > Elizabeth > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > Proud to be a transcriber for the freeCEN Project and volunteer for Random Acts of Geneological Kindness Ask me how you can contribute to either of these worthy projects or for other ways of helping our hobby. Researching BATTERS in all Yorkshire BENNIE in Lanarkshire, Dunbartonshire & WLN BENNING in Lanarkshire & Montreal COOPER in Pickering,Yorkshire DODS in East Lothian, Berwickshire, British Columbia, Montreal, Manchester, South Africa, Hong Kong, India DOUGLAS in Innerwick,ELN & Lanarkshire EASTWOOD in Holmfirth,WRY FENTON in Edinburgh FISHER in Leconfield & Pocklington, East YKS HAYTON in EastYorkshire HEWAT in East Lothian HESSELGRAVE in West Yorkshire LAMONT in Lanarkshire MCLEAN in Straclur,Argyll PAVER in Sherburn in Elmet, Yks RANKINE in Dunbartonshire, Perthshire SHIRREFF in East Lothian SUFFILL/SUFFIELD in West & North Yorkshire TROTTER, Islay,ARL,Lanarkshire, West Lothian WALTON, Bradford & Denby, Yorkshire WILLIAMSON in Edinburgh & North Berwick ____________________________________________________________________________________ Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz

My ancestors were not in America long enough to make it to a census. I cannot obtain a marriage or birth certificate as it was before official records (I have tried), Thank you for the California link I will give them a go but the California BDM was not able to assist. Elizabeth -----Original Message----- From: eng-yorkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-yorkshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Firebird Sent: Monday, 16 July 2007 8:30 PM To: eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] Yorks family to Aus via US (was: DRURY/DEWERY) Elizabeth Allan wrote: > My Yorkshire ancestor is my biggest brick wall. My GGG grandfather's death > certificate has no parents or first wife's name listed just Yorkshire as > birth place and married in Yorkshire (first wife) with no year stated and > America (second wife). Checking the birth certificates of the two children > born in Australia one states York and the other Yorkshire for place of > birth. Checking my GG grandfather's marriage and death certificates I find > he was born in California. The information in Australia is very limited > especially on the BDM for 1800's and I have decided that I may never be able > to trace this family especially as they also have a common surname. Have you had a look at the US censuses? Not always very helpful since they give only the country (sometimes county) for non American born residents but often they give the length of time a couple has been married. You can also get hold of copies of marriage and birth certificates, if it isn't too early, which you'll find as informative as Australian ones. Try www.usgenweb.com/ and http://feefhs.org/FDB2/SFCALLI.HTML (covers the period 1869-1895). Then there's the California State Vital Records site: www.vitalsearch-ca.com/ For what else is available: www.researchguides.net/census/free.htm If all else fails try subbing to alt.genealogy. It's a gatewayed newsgroup, but don't worry, it isn't a bear pit! <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Newsgroup_Gateways/ALT-GENEALOGY.html > They're very friendly and very helpful. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have read with the interest the back and fro of this thread. I am an Australian with ancestors in many parts of England, some I have successfully traced but one line is illusive. Roy is right when he says we must find as much information as possible ourselves before posting a request but what if there is no information? My Yorkshire ancestor is my biggest brick wall. My GGG grandfather's death certificate has no parents or first wife's name listed just Yorkshire as birth place and married in Yorkshire (first wife) with no year stated and America (second wife). Checking the birth certificates of the two children born in Australia one states York and the other Yorkshire for place of birth. Checking my GG grandfather's marriage and death certificates I find he was born in California. The information in Australia is very limited especially on the BDM for 1800's and I have decided that I may never be able to trace this family especially as they also have a common surname. So for Roy and other's on this list it is not always as simple as you may indicate to trace family who migrated from the "mother" land as the information is not always available in the "adopted" country. Elizabeth

Garry wrote: > Hi list, > > I would like to ask this question once again seeing it wasn't answered the > first time it was posted, I do hope somebody may know something now, it > would be a great addition to our Yorkshire research!! > > If somebody can answer the question please let us know when we will be able > to use the site. If there's no OPC project for Yorkshire, how about co-ordinating it yourself? There isn't just one OPC for a county but a project that involves a whole team of volunteers who are willing to take the time to transcribe the parish registers, census returns and other records from the parish chest, double check the transcription for accuracy before making it available. Each volunteer is the OPC for whatever parish or parishes s/he choses. The choice is usually governed by a person's interest in a particular parish. Some of the results are put online, some are not. Some enquiries are dealt with by email, some by snail mail, some by phone. Kent, Cornwall and Somerset all have OPC projects. I believe Devon has a similar project. It isn't a quick, simple enterprise. It's very time consuming and requires organisation.

Hi Elaine, A pleasure as your country made our visit!! My Yorkshire research is mainly in the east of Yorkshire where my dear late mum's SAWDEN family have been found back to William SAWDEN b c 1668 Weaverthorpe. Many thanks! Garry FUDGE Leeds, West Yorkshire. > Hi Gary, > > Thanks for the compliment......... we think its pretty good also. > > I do look around to see what's going on line for Yorkshire & Northants and > have NOT found anything to date. > > The areas I am interested in are Sheffield & area, Bradford, York & > Ainsty, > Oundle & area, Nths and as I said other than purchasing CD's I have NOT > found anything on line. > > Good luck. > Elaine in Ottawa. > Sheffield Indexers Site Admin. > http://sheff-indexers.thewholeshebang.org

Elizabeth Agree entirely with your sentiments..... but I would guess that it is helpful to give as much detail as possible of "no information" as justification and explanation when asking the experienced ones for help - exactly as you have done as an example in your third paragraph..... And for the others amomg us who are unable to help, reading such posts is always enlightening - and the info might just strike a chord. I only wish that at least one of my ancestors (who by and large were not an adventurous lot!) had travelled to the antipodes so that I could justify researching and perhaps visiting there - one of these days, hopefully..... Best Regards Geoff >From: "Elizabeth Allan" <elpka@westnet.com.au> >Reply-To: eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com >To: <ENG-YORKSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] DRURY/DEWERY >Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:03:34 +1000 > >I have read with the interest the back and fro of this thread. > > > >I am an Australian with ancestors in many parts of England, some I have >successfully traced but one line is illusive. Roy is right when he says we >must find as much information as possible ourselves before posting a >request >but what if there is no information? > > > >My Yorkshire ancestor is my biggest brick wall. My GGG grandfather's death >certificate has no parents or first wife's name listed just Yorkshire as >birth place and married in Yorkshire (first wife) with no year stated and >America (second wife). Checking the birth certificates of the two children >born in Australia one states York and the other Yorkshire for place of >birth. Checking my GG grandfather's marriage and death certificates I find >he was born in California. The information in Australia is very limited >especially on the BDM for 1800's and I have decided that I may never be >able >to trace this family especially as they also have a common surname. > > > >So for Roy and other's on this list it is not always as simple as you may >indicate to trace family who migrated from the "mother" land as the >information is not always available in the "adopted" country. > > > >Elizabeth > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Tell Hotmail about an email that changed your life! http://www.emailbritain.co.uk/

Hi Elaine, Love your country!! My question was just a query on behalf of the list, on the Dorset list it says Starting up - Cambridgeshire, Cheshire, Derbyshire, Surrey and North and West Ridings of Yorkshire, but no details yet. So I was just wondering if anybody has any knowledge about the North and West Ridings of Yorkshire OPC and when it is going to be online. Best Garry. > Hi Gary, > > Very few parishes have their records on line. > > The site I administer are doing just that but only for the Sheffield area > of > Yorkshire. > > Where in Yorkshire are you looking? that would be a great help. > Many of the area family history societies have indexed some of the parish > registers in their area, so that would be a place to start. > > Regards. > Elaine in Ottawa. > Sheffield Indexers Site Admin. > http://sheff-indexers.thewholeshebang.org

Hi list, I would like to ask this question once again seeing it wasn't answered the first time it was posted, I do hope somebody may know something now, it would be a great addition to our Yorkshire research!! If somebody can answer the question please let us know when we will be able to use the site. Yorkshire SAWDEN/TAYLOR/MONKMAN/GIBBON...many more. Dorset FUDGE/LANE/KING/STARKS/HATCHER/........ditto. Garry FUDGE. > Hi list, > > I'm a member of the Dorset list along with the Yorkshire list, Dorset has > a super site Dorset OPC (Online Parish Clerks) http://www.dorset-opc.com/ > as you will able to see its a priceless site, at the bottom of the home > page is a notice below, does anybody know when the Yorkshire OPC will be > online please. > > Garry.