Hi All, I am seeking Information on Amos Hayes and family. Amos was born about 1852 Wycombe, Bucks to Henry and Ann Hayes. He married Lydia ? (could be Charlesworth) I believe in Scotland. Amos returned to England pre 1889 and remarried to Eleanor Agnes Maydom (I think) at Hunslet.Lydia may have died or they parted company. Would someone be able to assist me with further details in relation to the family of Amos and also the death of Amos and his wife. Regards, John.

Hello, Thank you so much for your reply and for your help, I really appreciate it. Have a lovely day, Tamara. > maquis@maquis.karoo.co.uk <maquis@maquis.karoo.co.uk> wrote: > > Hello Tamara > You are bound to have a long and interesting search with a JOHN SMITH! > LINCOLNSHIRE has 5 different Burtons:- > BURTON (nr Lincoln) > BURTON WATERS (nr Lincoln on the R. Fosse) > BURTON COGGLES > BURTON PEDWARDINE > BURTON UPON STATHER. > The last one is on the R Trent and navigable to both the Humber & North > Sea. I know it was a ship building place as one of my family sailed from > there in 19th Century. It is possible that John Smith had something to > do > with this area. > I looked for marriages in Lincolnshire & over the border in Yorkshire, > no > joy. > I found two John Smith marriages to a Harriet (note spellings) in > Kent-both > in coastal places which might offer you a lead:- > J Smith to HARRIOT DEVERSON 1828-Sandwich, Kent > J Smith to HARRIOTT LANGLEY 1827-Strood nr Rochester, Kent > > Good luck with your searching > Jenny from Hull. > > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: tamweller@optusnet.com.au > Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:05:37 +1000 > To: ENG-YORKSHIRE@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] new to list - selby/hull area > > > Hi Christine :) > Thank you so much for replying to my post! I would love it if this were > my > couple but I'm certain that the christenings in Castleford can't belong > to > my family. This is what I know of the family so far: > > JOHN SMITH b ?Burton Lincs (1861 census) Naval Captain/Mariner/Inn > Keeper > (census records/daughters wedding certificate) > HARRIET?? b Canterbury Kent (1851 census) > > children: > > 1. Mary Jane 1830 Selby Yorkshire (IGI) > 2. Harriet Ann 1831 Selby Yorkshire (1851 census) > 3. Henry Harrison 1833 Kingston Upon Hull Yorkshire (1861 census) > 4. Eliza 1835 Kingston Upon Hull (IGI) > 5. Eliza 1836 Kingston Upon Hull (IGI) > 6. EMMA JULIA SMITH 1839 Great Yarmouth Norfolk (my ancestor) > > > The couple in Castleford had children in 1829, 1831, 1834, 1836, 1839 > and > 1845 so sadly I don't think it can be the same couple. > > John and Harriet must have married sometime between 1825-1830 though it > was > probably between 1828-1830, as Harriet was recorded as being about 30 > years > old in 1841. John was a mariner so he probably married Harriet when he > was > a bit older than usual (he was about 25 years older than her!), or > perhaps > Harriet was a second wife. > > It's going to be a frustrating and difficult search to look for their > marriage I think! I think it must have been in Yorkshire, it would have > been a long distance for John to travel, he was probably up north and > near > the coast at the time if he was in the Navy or a Seaman and met Harriet > when he was on land for a time....I don't know, it's a mystery, > > Thanks again, > > Tamara. > > > > > york_lanc_FH <york_lanc_FH@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > - > > > > > > JOHN SMITH Pedigree > > Male Family > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Event(s): > > Birth: > > Christening: > > Death: > > Burial: > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Marriages: > > Spouse: HARRIET TOWNEND Family > > Marriage: 04 NOV 1828 Castleford, Yorkshire, England > > > > > > > > > > Your route details - View summary results | Plan a new route > > > > From: Selby,North Yorkshire > > > > To: Castleford,West Yorkshire Reverse this route > > > > Distance: 15.4 miles Show in kilometres > > > > Time: 0 hr 28 min > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <tamweller@optusnet.com.au> > > To: <ENG-YORKSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:34 AM > > Subject: [YORKSHIRE] new to list - selby/hull > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone :) > > > I recently discovered that I have a link to Yorkshire in my family > > tree. > > > I'm really struggling however to know what to do from here. > > > My ancestor was a JOHN SMITH who was actually born in Lincolnshire, > I > > > haven't found his birth/baptism but I believe it may have been > > 'Burton' > > > (that's what it seems to read in the 1861 census) circa 1787. He > was > > a > > > Naval Captain/Seaman and was having children in Selby and in > Kingston > > Upon > > > Hull in Yorkshire. The oldest child of his that I can find (so far) > > > is a > > > Mary Jane Smith who was christened at Selby in 1830, I know she > > definately > > > belongs to them because the other child christened at Selby - > Harriet > > Ann > > > in 1831 - is with her mother in 1851 (however I don't know if Mary > > Jane > > > survived infancy). > > > My problem is that I would really love to find his marriage to his > > wife > > > HARRIET so that I can discover more information about them. I > presume > > > > > that they probably married at Selby or surrounds but have had no > luck > > with > > > IGI. Does anyone have any records for surrounding towns or have any > > > > advice for me? > > > John Smith was also apparently an Inn Keeper. > > > Thank you so much > > > Tamara > > > Australia > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/904 - Release Date: > > 16/07/2007 > > > 17:42 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web.com – Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on > Microsoft® > Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello John The GRO for the Hayes marriage @ Hunslet:- Registered Dec 1889 9b 443. Have you looked at the Yorkshire surname list on the genuki.org.uk site? A man called John Hayes has an email address. You could contact him for help. Jenny Original Message: ----------------- From: John cha02416@bigpond.net.au Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:30:41 +1000 To: ENG-YORKSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: [YORKSHIRE] AMOS HAYES HUNSLET Hi All, I am seeking Information on Amos Hayes and family. Amos was born about 1852 Wycombe, Bucks to Henry and Ann Hayes. He married Lydia ? (could be Charlesworth) I believe in Scotland. Amos returned to England pre 1889 and remarried to Eleanor Agnes Maydom (I think) at Hunslet.Lydia may have died or they parted company. Would someone be able to assist me with further details in relation to the family of Amos and also the death of Amos and his wife. Regards, John. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web

Hello Tamara You are bound to have a long and interesting search with a JOHN SMITH! LINCOLNSHIRE has 5 different Burtons:- BURTON (nr Lincoln) BURTON WATERS (nr Lincoln on the R. Fosse) BURTON COGGLES BURTON PEDWARDINE BURTON UPON STATHER. The last one is on the R Trent and navigable to both the Humber & North Sea. I know it was a ship building place as one of my family sailed from there in 19th Century. It is possible that John Smith had something to do with this area. I looked for marriages in Lincolnshire & over the border in Yorkshire, no joy. I found two John Smith marriages to a Harriet (note spellings) in Kent-both in coastal places which might offer you a lead:- J Smith to HARRIOT DEVERSON 1828-Sandwich, Kent J Smith to HARRIOTT LANGLEY 1827-Strood nr Rochester, Kent Good luck with your searching Jenny from Hull. Original Message: ----------------- From: tamweller@optusnet.com.au Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:05:37 +1000 To: ENG-YORKSHIRE@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] new to list - selby/hull area Hi Christine :) Thank you so much for replying to my post! I would love it if this were my couple but I'm certain that the christenings in Castleford can't belong to my family. This is what I know of the family so far: JOHN SMITH b ?Burton Lincs (1861 census) Naval Captain/Mariner/Inn Keeper (census records/daughters wedding certificate) HARRIET?? b Canterbury Kent (1851 census) children: 1. Mary Jane 1830 Selby Yorkshire (IGI) 2. Harriet Ann 1831 Selby Yorkshire (1851 census) 3. Henry Harrison 1833 Kingston Upon Hull Yorkshire (1861 census) 4. Eliza 1835 Kingston Upon Hull (IGI) 5. Eliza 1836 Kingston Upon Hull (IGI) 6. EMMA JULIA SMITH 1839 Great Yarmouth Norfolk (my ancestor) The couple in Castleford had children in 1829, 1831, 1834, 1836, 1839 and 1845 so sadly I don't think it can be the same couple. John and Harriet must have married sometime between 1825-1830 though it was probably between 1828-1830, as Harriet was recorded as being about 30 years old in 1841. John was a mariner so he probably married Harriet when he was a bit older than usual (he was about 25 years older than her!), or perhaps Harriet was a second wife. It's going to be a frustrating and difficult search to look for their marriage I think! I think it must have been in Yorkshire, it would have been a long distance for John to travel, he was probably up north and near the coast at the time if he was in the Navy or a Seaman and met Harriet when he was on land for a time....I don't know, it's a mystery, Thanks again, Tamara. > york_lanc_FH <york_lanc_FH@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > > JOHN SMITH Pedigree > Male Family > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Event(s): > Birth: > Christening: > Death: > Burial: > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Marriages: > Spouse: HARRIET TOWNEND Family > Marriage: 04 NOV 1828 Castleford, Yorkshire, England > > > > > Your route details - View summary results | Plan a new route > > From: Selby,North Yorkshire > > To: Castleford,West Yorkshire Reverse this route > > Distance: 15.4 miles Show in kilometres > > Time: 0 hr 28 min > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <tamweller@optusnet.com.au> > To: <ENG-YORKSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:34 AM > Subject: [YORKSHIRE] new to list - selby/hull > > > > > > Hello everyone :) > > I recently discovered that I have a link to Yorkshire in my family > tree. > > I'm really struggling however to know what to do from here. > > My ancestor was a JOHN SMITH who was actually born in Lincolnshire, I > > haven't found his birth/baptism but I believe it may have been > 'Burton' > > (that's what it seems to read in the 1861 census) circa 1787. He was > a > > Naval Captain/Seaman and was having children in Selby and in Kingston > Upon > > Hull in Yorkshire. The oldest child of his that I can find (so far) > is a > > Mary Jane Smith who was christened at Selby in 1830, I know she > definately > > belongs to them because the other child christened at Selby - Harriet > Ann > > in 1831 - is with her mother in 1851 (however I don't know if Mary > Jane > > survived infancy). > > My problem is that I would really love to find his marriage to his > wife > > HARRIET so that I can discover more information about them. I presume > > > that they probably married at Selby or surrounds but have had no luck > with > > IGI. Does anyone have any records for surrounding towns or have any > > advice for me? > > John Smith was also apparently an Inn Keeper. > > Thank you so much > > Tamara > > Australia > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/904 - Release Date: > 16/07/2007 > > 17:42 > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com – Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft® Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail

further to may last posting (message below) I have been told the photos are on The Pontefract Digest magazine website. So if anyone would like to see if they recognise the school tie or pocket badge (or any of the children) here is the website: _www.pontefractus.co.uk_ (http://www.pontefractus.co.uk) (click on Photo Gallery then on latest additions, there are 27 pictures of the school children) Jane suggested they may be visitors to Pontefract, but from where? thank you, maureen Hiya, a friend has asked me if I know/knew of a school around Pontefract called St Catherine's I can't recall one & there are no churches with that name. The friend has been sent bag of photos or slides of Pontefract & among them are some of young children in uniform. The name St Catherine's School 1948 is wrote on some of them. thanks for any help, Maureen

Hi Christine :) Thank you so much for replying to my post! I would love it if this were my couple but I'm certain that the christenings in Castleford can't belong to my family. This is what I know of the family so far: JOHN SMITH b ?Burton Lincs (1861 census) Naval Captain/Mariner/Inn Keeper (census records/daughters wedding certificate) HARRIET?? b Canterbury Kent (1851 census) children: 1. Mary Jane 1830 Selby Yorkshire (IGI) 2. Harriet Ann 1831 Selby Yorkshire (1851 census) 3. Henry Harrison 1833 Kingston Upon Hull Yorkshire (1861 census) 4. Eliza 1835 Kingston Upon Hull (IGI) 5. Eliza 1836 Kingston Upon Hull (IGI) 6. EMMA JULIA SMITH 1839 Great Yarmouth Norfolk (my ancestor) The couple in Castleford had children in 1829, 1831, 1834, 1836, 1839 and 1845 so sadly I don't think it can be the same couple. John and Harriet must have married sometime between 1825-1830 though it was probably between 1828-1830, as Harriet was recorded as being about 30 years old in 1841. John was a mariner so he probably married Harriet when he was a bit older than usual (he was about 25 years older than her!), or perhaps Harriet was a second wife. It's going to be a frustrating and difficult search to look for their marriage I think! I think it must have been in Yorkshire, it would have been a long distance for John to travel, he was probably up north and near the coast at the time if he was in the Navy or a Seaman and met Harriet when he was on land for a time....I don't know, it's a mystery, Thanks again, Tamara. > york_lanc_FH <york_lanc_FH@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > > JOHN SMITH Pedigree > Male Family > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Event(s): > Birth: > Christening: > Death: > Burial: > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Marriages: > Spouse: HARRIET TOWNEND Family > Marriage: 04 NOV 1828 Castleford, Yorkshire, England > > > > > Your route details - View summary results | Plan a new route > > From: Selby,North Yorkshire > > To: Castleford,West Yorkshire Reverse this route > > Distance: 15.4 miles Show in kilometres > > Time: 0 hr 28 min > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <tamweller@optusnet.com.au> > To: <ENG-YORKSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:34 AM > Subject: [YORKSHIRE] new to list - selby/hull > > > > > > Hello everyone :) > > I recently discovered that I have a link to Yorkshire in my family > tree. > > I'm really struggling however to know what to do from here. > > My ancestor was a JOHN SMITH who was actually born in Lincolnshire, I > > haven't found his birth/baptism but I believe it may have been > 'Burton' > > (that's what it seems to read in the 1861 census) circa 1787. He was > a > > Naval Captain/Seaman and was having children in Selby and in Kingston > Upon > > Hull in Yorkshire. The oldest child of his that I can find (so far) > is a > > Mary Jane Smith who was christened at Selby in 1830, I know she > definately > > belongs to them because the other child christened at Selby - Harriet > Ann > > in 1831 - is with her mother in 1851 (however I don't know if Mary > Jane > > survived infancy). > > My problem is that I would really love to find his marriage to his > wife > > HARRIET so that I can discover more information about them. I presume > > > that they probably married at Selby or surrounds but have had no luck > with > > IGI. Does anyone have any records for surrounding towns or have any > > advice for me? > > John Smith was also apparently an Inn Keeper. > > Thank you so much > > Tamara > > Australia > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.8/904 - Release Date: > 16/07/2007 > > 17:42 > >

Hi I'm new to the list, so you probably all know already about my amazing find - burial registers - that I found by chance. http://www.wakefield.gov.uk/CommunityAndLiving/CemeteriesAndCrematoria/GenealogySearches/default.htm scanned images, so take a bit of trawling through - but very useful. And just in case anyone out there is researching the same names as me: BARNSLEY, POTTS, SMITH, HARRISON - moved from Midlands @ 1885 to HEMSWORTH / PONTEFRACT - would love to hear from descendants. Steph Researching names in Cradley, Halesowen & Rowley Regis www.stephrobinson.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

Hi am wondering if SKS could Advise if there is a Amos Wildsmith on the 1841 census for Worsborough b about 1838 he apparently had a large family of 10 children. ?It appears he married an Eliza ?? as later census gives her age in 1901 recorded as 62 born Swinton. I have found an entry in FreeBDM Dec Qtr 1860 but no matches for a Eliza. I also noted there was an Amos b 1838 Ecclesfield and assume it is close to Worsborough. The Wildsmith family appear to have resided in the locality for some period of time several centuries from some of the data I have observed so to which family Amos is related I have no Idea. My second query also relates to a Herbert Wildsmith age 13 in 1901 he may be the tenth child of Amos but not sure so if he is shown in 1891 census could solve a mistry for me. Regards Bob Wilesmith Country NSW Australia

Hello everyone :) I recently discovered that I have a link to Yorkshire in my family tree. I'm really struggling however to know what to do from here. My ancestor was a JOHN SMITH who was actually born in Lincolnshire, I haven't found his birth/baptism but I believe it may have been 'Burton' (that's what it seems to read in the 1861 census) circa 1787. He was a Naval Captain/Seaman and was having children in Selby and in Kingston Upon Hull in Yorkshire. The oldest child of his that I can find (so far) is a Mary Jane Smith who was christened at Selby in 1830, I know she definately belongs to them because the other child christened at Selby - Harriet Ann in 1831 - is with her mother in 1851 (however I don't know if Mary Jane survived infancy). My problem is that I would really love to find his marriage to his wife HARRIET so that I can discover more information about them. I presume that they probably married at Selby or surrounds but have had no luck with IGI. Does anyone have any records for surrounding towns or have any advice for me? John Smith was also apparently an Inn Keeper. Thank you so much Tamara Australia

hiya list, a friend has asked me if I know/knew of a school around Pontefract called St Catherine's. I can't recall one & there are no churches with that name. The friend has been given bag of photos & slides of Pontefract. Among them are some of young girls in uniform. The name St Catherine's School 1948 is wrote on some of them. thanks for any help, Maureen

>From: Roy Stockdill [roy.stockdill@btinternet.com]-bounces@rootsweb.com] > I absolutely recommend as a MUST for any >genealogist's library the Phillimore Atlas and Index of Parish Registers. >This gives you ordinary maps alongside parish maps of every county in >Britain, plus complete listings of all the registers, the dates they cover >and the whereabouts of every record office they are kept in, plus other >information. >Cheap it ain't at 50 pounds - so why not get your loved one to give it to >you for your birthday or Christmas. Alternatively, most half-decent >reference libraries should have a copy of this most valuable work. It may sound like a lot of money for one book, but it doesn't date, and the maps themselves are worth the money. Does anyone have any other 'must have' books for West Yorkshire research in general, and Pontefract and Wakefield in particular? Yvonne Scrivener Wagga Wagga NSW Australia

Images sent. Garry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Wilesmith" <wiler.bob@bigpond.com> To: <ENG-YORKSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:05 AM Subject: [YORKSHIRE] Researching Wildsmith Family of Worsborough > Hi am wondering if SKS could Advise if there is a Amos Wildsmith on the > 1841 census for Worsborough b about 1838 he apparently had a large family > of 10 children. ?It appears he married an Eliza ?? as later census gives > her age in 1901 recorded as 62 born Swinton. I have found an entry in > FreeBDM Dec Qtr 1860 but no matches for a Eliza. > I also noted there was an Amos b 1838 Ecclesfield and assume it is close > to Worsborough. The Wildsmith family appear to have resided in the > locality for some period of time several centuries from some of the data I > have observed so to which family Amos is related I have no Idea. My second > query also relates to a Herbert Wildsmith age 13 in 1901 he may be the > tenth child of Amos but not sure so if he is shown in 1891 census could > solve a mistry for me. > > Regards Bob Wilesmith > Country > NSW Australia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, Roy, Thank you very much, but there was no need to bother writing, since I already received Yvonne's message as to where to start. It really wasn't necessary for you to bother. Best wishes, Carolyn. AUS.

Judy wrote: > Could you send us some dates and names (of my brick wall)? > Please bear in mind that as my previous emails pointed out this is all the information available on death certificates and the birth certificates of two children and the marriage and death certificates of my G grandfather. > GG grandfather Stephen HALL according to his death certificate was born in Yorkshire, no town or parish listed and no parents listed, died in Sydney Australia 1879 at age 73 years - approx year of birth 1806. Death certificate states wife #1 no name or year but married in Yorkshire. Wife #2 Jane REILLY married in New York 1851. Children of first marriage John, Thomas, William, Henry and Mary, three children deceased but no indication of which children had died. Second marriage: > Son George HALL unable to ascertain birth but born about 1853 in America according to death certificate. > Son William Henry HALL (my G grandfather) born in Sonora California 1855 (marriage certificate) contacted Sonora California, no official records available. > Stephen and Jane HALL possibly arrived in Sydney in 1857 but no Stephen HALL on incoming shipping lists (from America or England) only a Mr & Mrs HALL and 2 sons arriving from San Francisco. > Son James Shackleton HALL born in Sydney 1857 and his sister Jane HALL birth certificates state Stephen was born in York, mother Jane REILLY born in County Cavan Ireland. > I am unable to locate a Stephen HALL on 1841 English census that fits ours. > Occupation in Australia was Soda Water Manufacturer. Elizabeth

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: paulharrison57 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.england.yks.general/14715.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Nancie, I am working in Leeds at the moment, but when I go home at the weekend I will send you the spreadsheet. Best Wishes Paul Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi, just to put my two cents worth in. I am a Californian, having been born in Indiana, lived in Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Washington State and now here. Census records here are the greatest. Ancestry.com has the best website. LDS has earlychurch records. Frontier towns had more bars than churches, but the Catholic church in CA has records that go back to their settlement long before the Revolutionary War. You might have to get a Spanish translation, but the words are there written by the hands of the padre in either Latin or Spanish. As you say, Cheers John Dods <johndods2002@yahoo.com> wrote: Hi me again, I've added my tupence worth on Scottish research, now I'll tell you of my Californian experence. (lets all hold hands, LOL.) One of my Great Grandmothers was a Californian, her grandfather was a Methodist missionary to the Native American's in the Sierra Nevada. Unless your man was caputured in a census (remember they go back to 1790), then you might be out of luck. There are several problems with getting Vital Records (as the American's call them) out west. 1. The US system is decentralised, based arround local court houses. 2. As the west was opened up, there were almost continuous boundry changes of US counties, as well as State and Terirtorial Borders. 3. In general the further west you get the later BDM's start being registered, some places don't start till just till the early 20th century! It's nor impossible but I am saying unless he was born in a major population center, then getting a birth date & place is going to have be from other sources, like Newspapers and Census. Census are by far the best thing about US research, they contain heaps of info. If you have any questions, just feel free to ask. cheerrs John Dods Wellington, NZ --- Elizabeth Allan wrote: > I have read with the interest the back and fro of > this thread. > > > > I am an Australian with ancestors in many parts of > England, some I have > successfully traced but one line is illusive. Roy is > right when he says we > must find as much information as possible ourselves > before posting a request > but what if there is no information? > > > > My Yorkshire ancestor is my biggest brick wall. My > GGG grandfather's death > certificate has no parents or first wife's name > listed just Yorkshire as > birth place and married in Yorkshire (first wife) > with no year stated and > America (second wife). Checking the birth > certificates of the two children > born in Australia one states York and the other > Yorkshire for place of > birth. Checking my GG grandfather's marriage and > death certificates I find > he was born in California. The information in > Australia is very limited > especially on the BDM for 1800's and I have decided > that I may never be able > to trace this family especially as they also have a > common surname. > > > > So for Roy and other's on this list it is not always > as simple as you may > indicate to trace family who migrated from the > "mother" land as the > information is not always available in the "adopted" > country. > > > > Elizabeth > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > Proud to be a transcriber for the freeCEN Project and volunteer for Random Acts of Geneological Kindness Ask me how you can contribute to either of these worthy projects or for other ways of helping our hobby. Researching BATTERS in all Yorkshire BENNIE in Lanarkshire, Dunbartonshire & WLN BENNING in Lanarkshire & Montreal COOPER in Pickering,Yorkshire DODS in East Lothian, Berwickshire, British Columbia, Montreal, Manchester, South Africa, Hong Kong, India DOUGLAS in Innerwick,ELN & Lanarkshire EASTWOOD in Holmfirth,WRY FENTON in Edinburgh FISHER in Leconfield & Pocklington, East YKS HAYTON in EastYorkshire HEWAT in East Lothian HESSELGRAVE in West Yorkshire LAMONT in Lanarkshire MCLEAN in Straclur,Argyll PAVER in Sherburn in Elmet, Yks RANKINE in Dunbartonshire, Perthshire SHIRREFF in East Lothian SUFFILL/SUFFIELD in West & North Yorkshire TROTTER, Islay,ARL,Lanarkshire, West Lothian WALTON, Bradford & Denby, Yorkshire WILLIAMSON in Edinburgh & North Berwick ____________________________________________________________________________________ Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-YORKSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.

Hi Geoff, Many thanks for the reference, an image isn't necessary as I have the CD's and can now go straight to it. Regards, Michele ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Watson" <geoffwatsone@hotmail.com> To: <eng-yorkshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [YORKSHIRE] 1901 census index > Michelle > > Try RG13/4482 f77 p18 - I can send you the image off list if you need it? > > Regards > > Geoff in sevilla essage

From: "Carolyn and Darryl" <dazwilson@bigpond.com> > Hello, Roy, > > Thank you very much, but there was no need to bother writing, since I > already received Yvonne's message as to where to start. > > It really wasn't necessary for you to bother. > > Best wishes, > > Carolyn. AUS.> My messages usually tend to give rather more detailed and specific instructions as to how to find places and your way round the Internet than most. I was simply expanding on and enhancing Yvonne's message. In my opinion, it's better to have too many messages of instructions, rather than too few, since there will always be those listers who missed the first one. Despite your indifference to my advice, I shall continue to offer it to those who appreciate it. -- Roy Stockdill Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

If anyone has a name index for the 1901 census, I would very much appreciate the piece and folio reference for the following man - John Leaf, age 50, boiler maker rivetter, born Thornton Yorks. He is somewhere in the Sculcoates area. TIA. Michele

From: JJupar@aol.com > > If you live outside England then you can look up the names of all the > towns and villages in Yorkshire in Genuki. > > > _http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Where/_ > (http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Where/) > > If there is a letter in brackets after the name (N) North riding, (W) > West Riding (E) East riding. There is no South Riding.> Except in a novel of the name by Winifred Holtby. > I did have a look for Martin-cum-Grafton and as a name it is not there > but Grafton is there and so Martin-cum-Grafton means near Grafton > so do not give up. < It's actually MARTON cum Grafton and here is the description from the Yorkshire pages of GENUKI..... "MARTON, a parish-town, in the upper division of Claro, liberty of St. Peter; 3 miles S. of Boroughbridge, 6 from Knaresborough, 15 from York. Pop. including Grafton, 464, which being united form a township. The Church is a vicarage, in the deanry of Boroughbridge, diocese of Chester, value, ~£2. 19s. 4d. Patron, St. John's College, Cambridge." "GRAFTON, in the township of Marton cum Grafton, and parish of Marton, upper division of Claro, a part in the liberty of St. Peter; 3 miles S. of Boroughbridge, 6¼ from Knaresborough. Pop. included in Marton." Here is a step-by-step guide to find out where virtually anywhere in Yorkshire is located..... 1) Enter "GENUKI+Yorkshire" into Google and you will be taken straight to the appropriate Genuki page. 2) Click on "Where is it in Yorkshire?" 3) Scroll down the page and select the initial letter of the place you seek in the grid. 4) When you've found the place, click on the link next to it and you will be taken to another page that gives information about it. What could be simpler? -- Roy Stockdill Guild of One-Name Studies: www.one-name.org Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE